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depressed_gal
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Ladies juz hve my review w dr, dh troop getting worst
Told dr i dont wish to d anymore iui n will like to proceed w ivf. As previously i do all d necessary test so I will b having my first ivf in around late jun. Doc told me I will b doin d short protocol n she told me my chances of hving ohss is not high but higher.
Any1 can tell me wat shld I need to take note of d short protocol n wat i shld do to prepare myself for my ivf n on d ohss? Do I need to start taking ew? Currently I'm taking ensure milk, prenatal supplement n LRD.
Told dr i dont wish to d anymore iui n will like to proceed w ivf. As previously i do all d necessary test so I will b having my first ivf in around late jun. Doc told me I will b doin d short protocol n she told me my chances of hving ohss is not high but higher.
Any1 can tell me wat shld I need to take note of d short protocol n wat i shld do to prepare myself for my ivf n on d ohss? Do I need to start taking ew? Currently I'm taking ensure milk, prenatal supplement n LRD.
Depressed Gal, you're taking a step forward deciding to go for ivf. Jia you! Do you have PCOS? That's why the doc say you have high chance of OHSS?
No harm taking EW now, but maybe can start off with one or two a day only until u start your cycle. It's good that you're already taking so many supplements.
As i understand, there are different short protocols too. So it's best to ask your doc/nurse the exact details. But perhaps the other sisters can advise further on the rough timeline for short protocol.
No harm taking EW now, but maybe can start off with one or two a day only until u start your cycle. It's good that you're already taking so many supplements.
As i understand, there are different short protocols too. So it's best to ask your doc/nurse the exact details. But perhaps the other sisters can advise further on the rough timeline for short protocol.
minniestar
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Tutu, the medicine is for 1 AF cycle, so I think its not expensive. He said my hormones are not balanced and my DH sperms are not strong. Ask me not to take DHEA and go for IVF first and try natural for 1 cycle with his medication and see how.
Niko, I will also try Ban Choon Chan's medicine first and see how before deciding when to start my IVF. Cos I need to be on 4 months of DHEA, so earlist I think would be end of the year or early next year liao. But KKH IVF clinic closes towards end of the year, so need to plan lor.
We may end up to be cycle buddies, who knows! All the best to you too! Jia You!
Niko, I will also try Ban Choon Chan's medicine first and see how before deciding when to start my IVF. Cos I need to be on 4 months of DHEA, so earlist I think would be end of the year or early next year liao. But KKH IVF clinic closes towards end of the year, so need to plan lor.
We may end up to be cycle buddies, who knows! All the best to you too! Jia You!
eskimobaby
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Tutu,
No idea but most of us ladies at that time who got ohss had bfp... When I went to see him he told me gleefully that it will get worse. anyway, it's not something that I wanna go thru again tho.
No idea but most of us ladies at that time who got ohss had bfp... When I went to see him he told me gleefully that it will get worse. anyway, it's not something that I wanna go thru again tho.
nurul_huda
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LuvNhope its e latter one. But was told once e egg n sperm managed to fertilised, if it stop growing, e problem lies wif e egg not e sperm. Is it true? Her DH SA is ok. Morphology above 5, motility 70% but volume abit low 4m.
Minnie, what do you mean the KKH IVF clinic closes toward end of the year?
Haha, yes maybe end up we will be the cycle buddies but I am considering for horse horoscope now. Did some checking on ba qi and chinese horoscope just to make sure no clash with my dh.
Btw, the DHEA is only for low ovarian reserve. It was told by my doctor cos I asked for it earlier on but rejected. I am not belong to that category according to him.
Haha, yes maybe end up we will be the cycle buddies but I am considering for horse horoscope now. Did some checking on ba qi and chinese horoscope just to make sure no clash with my dh.
Btw, the DHEA is only for low ovarian reserve. It was told by my doctor cos I asked for it earlier on but rejected. I am not belong to that category according to him.
Minnie - I see. then that's very reasonable.
Eskimo - Really? and may i ask if most of you successfully deliver healthy bbs? Sigh..I must be really unlucky to fail then... im pinning my hopes now that the Chinese doc is right. She said my womb is not warm and healthy enought as i have blood clots and discharge. (Although dr loh said these should not affect.) So hope the med she prescribed me would help. I just need to wait and decide if i want to proceed with FET after 1, 2 or 3 cycles of break .....
Niko - I bought the ready made milo drink and leave it in fridge. I will take it out and bring it to room temp before mixing in the immunocal. i also dilute the milo a little as too much milo can be heaty and sweet. Milo masked the rawness of the immunocal poweder and the overall taste like milo. you will not dislike it.
Eskimo - Really? and may i ask if most of you successfully deliver healthy bbs? Sigh..I must be really unlucky to fail then... im pinning my hopes now that the Chinese doc is right. She said my womb is not warm and healthy enought as i have blood clots and discharge. (Although dr loh said these should not affect.) So hope the med she prescribed me would help. I just need to wait and decide if i want to proceed with FET after 1, 2 or 3 cycles of break .....
Niko - I bought the ready made milo drink and leave it in fridge. I will take it out and bring it to room temp before mixing in the immunocal. i also dilute the milo a little as too much milo can be heaty and sweet. Milo masked the rawness of the immunocal poweder and the overall taste like milo. you will not dislike it.
nurul_huda
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Den i guess both hav to continue their supplements to play safe. Wats e brand CoQ u r taking? How much is e dosage?
Nurul, i'm taking Blackmores.
You may like to ask your friend to read these:
http://www.reproductivepartners.com...oor-embryo-quality-could-it-be-the-sperm.html
http://forums.fertilitycommunity.co...0178660-poor-embryo-quality-continue-not.html
You may like to ask your friend to read these:
http://www.reproductivepartners.com...oor-embryo-quality-could-it-be-the-sperm.html
http://forums.fertilitycommunity.co...0178660-poor-embryo-quality-continue-not.html
nurul_huda
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JoyNfaith i oso wana noe y?
nurul_huda
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Thanks Luv
adejoy
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Hi SunnieHope, I am taking 150mg daily of coq10, due to growth hormone deficiencies. I followed the dosage by one of our sisters here, who bfp with triplets. We both had the same problem.
she has given birth to triplets last year. During stimulation, she increased her dosage to 300mg per day.
But think it is still best to check with your doctor, as our body conditions differ.
But think it is still best to check with your doctor, as our body conditions differ.
bruno...gratz on,yr ET. how many embbies make it and any frozen? It's ok not to take the med...rest well.
niko...i mix immunocal with ribena..so its at room temp.taste ok lah.DHEA is for low reserve..gd that u are not..
Jamamee..feeling pain after ER is normal...dun worry...
Prospeina...lining and egg dun really grow liao after trigger shot. since yr egg reach 17 shld be ready. i think yr trigger
shot might be tml...btw, which dr will do ER for u?
fou fou....hugzzz again...stay strong...
niko...i mix immunocal with ribena..so its at room temp.taste ok lah.DHEA is for low reserve..gd that u are not..
Jamamee..feeling pain after ER is normal...dun worry...
Prospeina...lining and egg dun really grow liao after trigger shot. since yr egg reach 17 shld be ready. i think yr trigger
shot might be tml...btw, which dr will do ER for u?
fou fou....hugzzz again...stay strong...
usagi_2011
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Joyfully,
I only take 100mg of Coq10 daily. Wonder if I should up my dose.
Cas and Chevy,
Just visited Dr Zou. My last menses got shorter. Dr Zou advised me to drink LRD and red bean soup daily. Wonder how can i fit so many things. Already taking Coq10, folate, DHEA, tcm and DOM. haha. Now need to add LRD in.
I only take 100mg of Coq10 daily. Wonder if I should up my dose.
Cas and Chevy,
Just visited Dr Zou. My last menses got shorter. Dr Zou advised me to drink LRD and red bean soup daily. Wonder how can i fit so many things. Already taking Coq10, folate, DHEA, tcm and DOM. haha. Now need to add LRD in.
adejoy
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Nikomichi, initially I took blackmores. I changed to herb valley after reading the post by the sister who bfp with triplets. CARE is selling herb valley as well. No need prescription by doctor. But it is so much cheaper in Australia. It will be gd if you can ask friend's or relatives there to buy for you.
Hi Usagi, I am not sure if it's ok to increase your dosage by 150mg. I have been taking 150mg daily since end Mar till now. But my AMH reading has improved within one month, not sure if this contributes to the improved reading.
Hi Usagi, I am not sure if it's ok to increase your dosage by 150mg. I have been taking 150mg daily since end Mar till now. But my AMH reading has improved within one month, not sure if this contributes to the improved reading.
usagi_2011
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Thanks Joyfully, I have been taking it for a month too. But lately, never do testing as I am not sure when to do 3rd fresh. Hope our efforts pays off! Just cook LRD to drink. Your improved reading gives us hope.
usagi_2011
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Fou fou,
I also failed 2 fresh. Same situation like u. saving $ and maybe change job. If I do a 3rd fresh, Dr Yong suggested do a D5 transfer and use embryo glue. Maybe u can conside for ur 3rd cycle. I think it cost 1k+. Need to preorder dunno 1-2mths in advance. Coz the validity is pretty short. Since is our 3rd cycle, might as well give it a shot!
I also failed 2 fresh. Same situation like u. saving $ and maybe change job. If I do a 3rd fresh, Dr Yong suggested do a D5 transfer and use embryo glue. Maybe u can conside for ur 3rd cycle. I think it cost 1k+. Need to preorder dunno 1-2mths in advance. Coz the validity is pretty short. Since is our 3rd cycle, might as well give it a shot!
depressed_gal
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LuvNhope, thks. Wat is pcos? Based on my previous scan for iui, I have 24 eggs tat y d dr say I have higher chance of getting OHSS.
Is there any1 can assist me in what d short protocol will b like?
Is there any1 can assist me in what d short protocol will b like?
verone_baby
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Mc, I have no idea who will b doing er for me yet.
Usagi, what's embryo glue? To make them stick to our uterus?
Usagi, what's embryo glue? To make them stick to our uterus?
usagi_2011
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I think so Prosepina. Not sure If i gotten the name wrong. But it works something to that extent. Is an implantation promoting medium.
Niko - I failed my 1st fresh and have frozen embryos available for med FET.
Luv - thats my understanding too. OHSS is triggered by HCG. Hence i had an attack following trigger. And when i didn;t have another attack, i knew i wasn't going to get a positive Preg BT.
Jmamee - it's normal to feel sore after ER. I was sore for a few days but also because i retrieved many eggs. My back was sore too for a few days as i think that's from the sedation drug.
What is LRD ? AMH ? and AF ?
Luv - thats my understanding too. OHSS is triggered by HCG. Hence i had an attack following trigger. And when i didn;t have another attack, i knew i wasn't going to get a positive Preg BT.
Jmamee - it's normal to feel sore after ER. I was sore for a few days but also because i retrieved many eggs. My back was sore too for a few days as i think that's from the sedation drug.
What is LRD ? AMH ? and AF ?
ginger28
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Wow there is a glue for implantation.. Technology has gone to a different level..
Prosepina, how come you don't know who is going to do your er?
Bruno, glad that your er went well. Have a gd 2ww. Did dr tell you abt your embies?
Today I started to drink lrd.. Quite nice
Prosepina, how come you don't know who is going to do your er?
Bruno, glad that your er went well. Have a gd 2ww. Did dr tell you abt your embies?
Today I started to drink lrd.. Quite nice
nurul_huda
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BabyGalore hers is Dr Matthew. Dunno whether he's around. My ET was supposed to b done under hym but since he's not around, Dr Tan took over
usagi_2011
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Babygalore, I think it has been ard for a few years? They didn't suggest it for my first 2 fresh as normally there is no actual evidence to prove that it helps.
But since is the 3rd cycle, why not? What is 1k+ since we already poured 20-40k? Must give it the best shot to leave no regrets.
But since is the 3rd cycle, why not? What is 1k+ since we already poured 20-40k? Must give it the best shot to leave no regrets.
nurul_huda
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Prosepina ol e best. Most likely tomorrow ur trigger shot. Thur ur ER. Excited? Hehehe
BabyGalore most like Dr Tan or Dr Jerry...
BabyGalore most like Dr Tan or Dr Jerry...
kittybaby12
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Fuo fuo...take care. Rest your health and pocket well 1st. Then try again!!
Usagi, the glue sound interesting! Does all hospitals/ docs do that? Or only pte?
Usagi, the glue sound interesting! Does all hospitals/ docs do that? Or only pte?
depressed_gal
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Thks mc for ur explanation
eskimobaby
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Tutu / luvnhope,
Yes ohss will get worse after bfp... after trigger shot is usually bloating... Soreness of breast... Cramps.... These r normal. Ohss will make u breathless, abnormal bloating n water retention until it cause ur stomach to bloat until u look like 5-6 months pregnant n water might even go into lungs... Body can't get rid of water normally so reduction in urination. All these cause y the excess hormones secreted by the ovaries due to hyperstimulation. Frankly, I do think ohss helps in bfp maybe due to the excess hormones but no guarantee n yet it can complicates the pregnancy n cause miscarriages if too serious.
Yes ohss will get worse after bfp... after trigger shot is usually bloating... Soreness of breast... Cramps.... These r normal. Ohss will make u breathless, abnormal bloating n water retention until it cause ur stomach to bloat until u look like 5-6 months pregnant n water might even go into lungs... Body can't get rid of water normally so reduction in urination. All these cause y the excess hormones secreted by the ovaries due to hyperstimulation. Frankly, I do think ohss helps in bfp maybe due to the excess hormones but no guarantee n yet it can complicates the pregnancy n cause miscarriages if too serious.
Thanks, Luvnhope, Mel, babyjourney, sunniehope, niko, mc, i1bb, kittykatty, thanks again for all the HUGzzz! (sorry if I missed out anyone)
Tutu, ya me no more frozen. Only had 1 during my first fresh and used it during 2nd coz second only 1 gd grade fertilized.
So if i do a 3rd fresh, it will be the last time I can use medisave and grant. If I choose to go private, I can only use medisave.
You are with Dr Loh, right? How much did you spend on your 1st fresh? I had 3 failed IUI at pte before I had my first IVF. So spent quite a sum already as well.
Usagi, thanks for sharing on the embroyo glue.
something new... so when are you planning your 3rd fresh?
Joanne, great to hear you are better.
Blur xuan, you feeling better as well?
To sistas in 2ww, Ganbatte!!!
My appt with DR Tan is 18th July... so long.
Will try to see Dr Zou this weekend and start build up my body first.
Should I continue the supplements? Conceive well and folic acid?
Tutu, ya me no more frozen. Only had 1 during my first fresh and used it during 2nd coz second only 1 gd grade fertilized.
You are with Dr Loh, right? How much did you spend on your 1st fresh? I had 3 failed IUI at pte before I had my first IVF. So spent quite a sum already as well.
Usagi, thanks for sharing on the embroyo glue.
Joanne, great to hear you are better.
Blur xuan, you feeling better as well?
To sistas in 2ww, Ganbatte!!!
My appt with DR Tan is 18th July... so long.
Will try to see Dr Zou this weekend and start build up my body first.
Should I continue the supplements? Conceive well and folic acid?
usagi_2011
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Kitty baby,
I think govt hospital (i am with SGH) also got but need to preorder and paid deposit first as the glue expires very fast.
Fou fou, I also dun know when do 3rd fresh. Went 9 interviews but no news so far. Dr Zou also asked me if I wanna stay in current firm and do 3rd fresh. If I can't find any good ones, then no choice. Stay and do a 3rd fresh when I saved enough. But my dosage quite heavy will need to have maybe 7-8k cash on hand. There was co whereby I did 2 rounds of interview and an online profile test. Hope that one offers me.
I think govt hospital (i am with SGH) also got but need to preorder and paid deposit first as the glue expires very fast.
Fou fou, I also dun know when do 3rd fresh. Went 9 interviews but no news so far. Dr Zou also asked me if I wanna stay in current firm and do 3rd fresh. If I can't find any good ones, then no choice. Stay and do a 3rd fresh when I saved enough. But my dosage quite heavy will need to have maybe 7-8k cash on hand. There was co whereby I did 2 rounds of interview and an online profile test. Hope that one offers me.
eskimobaby
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Luvnhope,
Almost all the girls during my fresh who had ohss had bfp. That was the trend then n we deduced it does help. Now there are different drugs used like menopur n even new drugs coming up so really dunno wats the outcome. Last time kkh don't even use gonalf... There's only puregon.
Almost all the girls during my fresh who had ohss had bfp. That was the trend then n we deduced it does help. Now there are different drugs used like menopur n even new drugs coming up so really dunno wats the outcome. Last time kkh don't even use gonalf... There's only puregon.
