(2008/06) June 2008

i tried using nipple shield to latch but it keep falling off. using the avent one.

shycloud
im total bfg bt exclusive pumpg. counted?

felicia
nice to hear fr u. must rest more.
 


soyabean..
need some advice...u pump after each feed? how long is each feed? can ur bb sleep long after each feed?

im stressed out tat my MS not enough...
 
babycupid, some common symptoms of uncomplicated reflux can include:

* constant or sudden crying or colic like symptoms
* irritability and pain
* poor sleep habits typically with frequent waking
* arching their necks and back during or after eating
* spitting-up or vomiting
* wet burp or frequent hiccups
* frequent ear infections or sinus congestion

u can also read abt the characteristics of reflux here http://www.reflux.org.au/characteristics.php

hope my bb will be fine soon lor...gotta bring him back for review in a week's time. this week oredi spent $500 on PD for both children. pocket burn big hole. day time nvr sleep is good mah then nite time can sleep better. perhaps he can differentiate day and nite time liao. dun worry if yr bb is not votmitting and is a happy baby...burping and farting is ok....helps to release the wind in the stomach. good mah.

soyabean, itz a pity lor. PD said some bb may get better soon and some will have reflux for a longer period hence gotta monitor. She suggested to let bb drink soy milk for 6 months lor. She actually told me to carry on pumping so as to keep the supply but then freezing the milk or throwing it away oso does not sounds like a good solution so i thot prob will just stop BF since after 6 months i doubt our BM will be as good as the first 6 months post delivery. i see him drink my BM then votmit i oso heartpain. not heartpain dat he waste the milk but heartpain to see him so xin ku.
 
here's another article i found on reflux:

What is Reflux? Gastro-oesophageal reflux (GOR/reflux) occurs when food and stomach acid flows back into the oesophagus (foodpipe). For some babies, this causes no problems, but for others, it can be a significant problem that requires medical treatment, investigation and for a very small percentage, surgery. The exact cause is unknown, but may be associated with an immature digestive system, hereditary factors, food sensitivities, and other medical issues.

If your baby is happy, eating well and gaining weight, then there may be no need for any treatment. Reflux will resolve in most children by 12 to 18 months of age, with many outgrowing it well before then. There is a very small proportion who will continue to suffer from reflux beyond the age of 2 years.

There are other symptoms of reflux, other than vomiting, or posseting, that many babies exhibit. Some babies reflux without it coming out of their mouths (termed silent reflux). If you suspect your child has reflux, or have any concerns, it is important to seek medical guidance (reflux is not always the cause). The list below outlines some of the more common signs of reflux that may require treatment:

* vomiting / posseting / regurgitating
* irritability / excessive crying
* appearing to be in pain
* feeding problems
o refusal to feed or only taking a small amount despite being hungry
o comfort feeding - feeding frequently
o pulling away and arching their back
o crying during or after feeds
o gagging/spluttering
* sleeping issues
o catnapping during the day
o frequent night waking (though some refluxers do sleep well at night)
o easily disturbed from sleep
* wheezing/coughing
* failure to thrive
* recurrent chest infections

Home hints

* Keep your baby upright for at least 30 minutes after a feed.
* Use a baby sling, which allows you to keep your child upright, while keeping your hands free. Avoid baby slumping.
* Try elevating the head of the cot/bassinet
* Consider using a dummy.
* Avoid vigorous movements or bouncing the baby.
* The best time to lay your baby on the floor is when baby's tummy is empty, i.e. before a feed
* Change nappy before a feed. Take care to elevate the baby's head and shoulders. Avoid lifting the legs too high, and turn to the side if possible.
* Avoid any tight clothing around the waist, such as tight nappies, elastic waistbands.
* Avoid overfeeding - if the baby vomits, wait until the next feeding rather than feeding them again. You should consult your doctor or child health nurse to ensure that you baby is getting appropriate amounts of food
* If the baby is bottle-fed, it may be worthwhile trying AR (anti-reflux) formula, or a hypoallergenic one.
* Offer a spoonful of thickened milk (formula or breastmilk) following the feed - discuss the type of 'thickener' with your healthcare provider before starting this.
* If breastfeeding, the mother should avoid eating foods that can aggravate reflux such as citrus, tomato, fatty foods, spicy foods, chocolate and carbonated drinks.
* Some reflux children may suffer from food sensitivities, and may need dietary restrictions (or the mother may consider an elimination diet). If you suspect foods may be responsible for your child' condition, it is essential to discuss this with your health care provider. Do not change your or your child's diet before seeking medical advice.
* Avoid exposure to tobacco smoke.
* Contact a reflux support organisation for further information and support. The effect on the baby AND the family can be devastating and support groups can provide more detailed information, and offer the emotional support you may need.

It is essential to seek medical guidance if you have any concerns, such as the reflux appears worse, or you are worried about your baby or yourself. If symptoms are severe or persistent, your local doctor may consider treatment with medication, or refer your baby to a paediatric gastroenterologist.
 
starmoon...
thanks for the info on relux...
seems like my gal fulfilled some of the symptoms..however i will still continute to bf her.

come to think of it initially she too also farts alot..but seems to have reduce as the day goes by. rather she seems to poo poo alot though.

should i bring her to a PD to establish whether its a genuine case of reflux or should i just monitor?
 
Hi,

long time no login le..so busy with my baby.
I got problem laching my bb, so give her formula milk...But she drink so slow...
Any ideas a drink half way milk can last for how long as my baby need a break and drink later after an hour.
I not sure will the formula milk spoil or not after 2-3 hrs?
Any ideas?
 
Hi Felicia, I don tink there is injection at 1st week for bb..I remember when i discharge TMC they jus say come back to see PD cos they didnt do jaundice test for my gal..i went to Yishun Poly instead and they straight away register bb for the next jab tat will be in a mths time...i belive TMC oni wanto review bb at 1 wk tats all..cos BCG & HBV oredi given b4 discharge mah..Yishun Poly is conveniet..NB oso no nd to queue ,got priorty..
 
hmm.. my bb will *pulling away and arching their back.. wat is catnapping during the day ? meaning bery short hrs of slp? if so, den my bb has this symptoms now..
 
shycloud
i dun latch my gal cos she refuse to so i hv been gvg her ebm. if u r latchg u dunhv to wori cos if bb seem satisfied af feed. u r producing enuf milk. if u wan to start kpg a store of ebm, u can pump af every feed. u may nt get much at 1st bt if u kp pumpg u will overtime get mre.
 
hmm.. i tink sometimes my bb having reflux too.. he will pull away the bottle n cry.. vigorous sucking.. and arching his back n like cant swallow the milk in time..

for reflux.. any ways to cure it?
 
soyabean...
i see...thanks for the advice...but i dun wanna keep the EBM yet cos quite little...pathetic..but yes i will try to pump after each feed..

somemore now i realised that she may have reflux makes me more assured that i may afterall have enuff BM...

she has prbs sleeping and wakes up pretty often...spits out the milk after each feed etc...
 
<font color="blue">hi all,
very long hvnt login liao..no time..cos discharged from hospital n bb now @ my mum's place wif me.. my bb always hv hiccup after eating leh..anyway to cure it anot huh??

liewz,
i did an ultrasound on 19th june which is 3days b4 delivery and everything was fine, juz dat my water level a bit low n bb not moving much so doc suggest i admit hospital to monitor..but next day i discharge liao..the umblical cord goes round his neck i think after dr yeo burst my water bag for me on the delivery day itself.. </font>
 
<font color="blue">btw, i am selling away my extra tins of friso gold for 0-6mth..i think my bb cant take the milk..everytime he drink liao he lao sai.. super sianz..i need to switch to another brand.. i am willing to let go at $27.00..anyone interested?? </font>
 
Jus to share wif u mummies.. to kp ur BM goin u nd to consistantly either latch or pump..if ur bb's routine feeding is 2hrs &amp; u r giving EBM, u still nd to pump it out..tis will send a signal to indicate tat its empty &amp; u nd supply...of cos u nd to do it every 2hrs lor..initialli i had gd supplies..then i got lazy &amp; supply drops..i was woried..&amp; my colleague taught me wat to do..she bfd her gal for 3yrs..&amp; it works.. so now i take more effort..even nite feeds i will still pump .my gals routine is 3hrly.. usually last fd is 12am..then 3am the 6am...bb is alarm clock..will auto wake up...i'll pump at te 3 timings..to kp te flow.. it takes alittle more effort...&amp; of cos gd food helps too..hope tis helps!!
 
shycloud,
i m totally breastfeeding,dont really express it out,direct feed, no formula, but lately, he seems to have latching on difficulty, and i was like sweating trying to push my nipple into his mouth, was told by lactation consultant his tongue has to be below my nipple, but his tongue is always high up
 
<font color="aa00aa">Roooller, the one i used is Avent. The TMC nurse just bring it to me and said will charge to my bill. hehe...
But really find it very useful lor.

Riz,ok thanks for the info. So u signed up any package with poly?How much?</font>
 
Hi Felicia, good to hear you are well at home. I dun fight with Tera lar, we good friends, hee.

Rizty, you mean your gal wakes up every three hours after feed you will pump in middle of the night? i still cant wake up middle night to do the pumping leh, super tired and normally if gal sleep, i will sleep also, coz I scare wake up hubby if I pump in room, he won't allow me use his study room for pumping as he scare my milk will drip all over and the other room used by CL. I can feel one of my breast getting softer than usual, scare later it is a sign that MS decreasing.
 
Hi Felicia, Polyclinic hasnt advise me on the vaccination packages yet..if u wanto find out more can call this #67577790..u'll be able to find out more...maybe i shld call on monday then i'll try to update in the forum...
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Hi Veniz, in the day i gif her EBM oni certain times i let her latch..she has prob latchin on the rite...always end up in a fuss..&amp; wailing...so i pump out..in the day she drinks 2 hrly..
then in te nite i gif her FM for te 3 feeds..12am,3am &amp; 6+am..I use to let her latch but i find her dozing off after latchin for 5-10mins..aiyo..then she will scream after 20mins of sleep..so tired ,hv to kp waking up..so i decided to gif FM for nite feeds..she'll sleep longer..so every time after nite feeds ,i'll jus go pump lor...1st few times will take abit longer to pump but don worri after a few days the flow wil come and u find yrself dun hv to pump beri long wan...maybe 15mins ..i usualli pump how much my bb is drinking (eg..how many ml).jus to kp the supply coming...for the sake of bb hv to sacrifice abit of sleep lor...if u hv symptoms of supply decreasing then i tink u better start doin now la...can pump in kitchen anot? hehe...once u missed the timing slowly MS will be gone ler...try la...u can do it..cos i did it..
 
Sori Veniz,missed out somting here..my coll told me once supply is back and since i gif FM for nite feeds..i can do away wif pumpin in the middle of te nite once supply is back to normal...cos it will auto send a msg to say we dun nd supply in the nite...beri amazing wan...ahhahah..work abit harder for a few days la..to kp ur supply coming ..when it becomes a routine..it will be easier...u know i hv 13 (90ml per bttle) bottles of spare EBM in the fridge..store while u can!!
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U GO GAL ..U can do it!!
 
Congratulations to u, Felicia.

Hi Ladies, I am back from KKH. I delivered my boy at 12.11am on 27 June 2008, baby weight: 3.805kg.

My story:
26 June @ 2pm - Admitted to KKH

26 June @ 7pm - Went to labour ward to induce, 1st pill was inserted n need to moniter for 2 hrs. If nothing happen, will have to wait till 12 hrs then induce again.

26 June @ 9.30pm to 10pm - Doctor said tat althought I have contractions every 2 mins but seems like not tat pain so sent me back to normal ward n will arrange next morning for 2nd pill to be insert. So no choice, I walk back to my ward with my hubby and told him to go back.

26 June @ 11pm - Contractions quite pain but not sure so went toilet 'poo poo'. After 20 mins, cant stand the pain so ask nurse for painkiller but was told to go back labour ward for Epi.

26 June @ 11.28pm - Reached labour ward, ask doctor for Epi coz cervix already dilated to 5cm. While waiting for Epi, nurse gave me 'laughing gas'.

26 June @ 11.45pm - 'Laughing Gas' make me so high. Everything was so fast, b4 I knew. I heard Nurse said 'Waterbag burst, cant have Epi liao'. Next moment, I was pushing already.

27 June @ 12.11am - Baby was out.

I am so sad, althought today I was discharged but I cant bring my baby boy home. Doctor said tat the back of my baby's head a bit swell so sent him to special care for x-ray n report shows tat he have blood clot n need blood tranfusion too coz blood count drop. He need further investigation, CT scan need to be done. Still waiting for KKH to call us. How to rest...
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i went to abbott website and search for isomil.. only saw this isomil followup n isomil advance2.. and stated for 6 mths n above.. is there any for newborn 0-6 mths?
 
shycloud, i think the best person to assess whether your bb has reflux is the PD so if u wanna confirm if ur bb has reflux, do bring to the PD. initially, my PD @ tmc thot my bb has colic and prescribe colic drops but after the 2nd bottle, my bb is still votmitting and the colic drops didnt help at all. so i was supposed to go back to the PD but cos his appt all full so i went to another PD and this time the PD told me that it is reflux and dats why the colic drop didnt work.

shinely, be it EBM or FM it should be consumed within 1 hour. Anything that is not consumed within this time should be discarded. maybe u can make fewer oz of milk for yr bb (so as not to waste the FM) since she needs to take a break then after 1 hour when she wake, u make some more FM for her.

babycupid, i oso dunno wad does catnapping mean. my PD prescribed motilium and zantac for my baby but my boy still votmits and become very cranky so PD switch to a more expensive medicine called Losec (1 week supply taken once a day cost $39.20). He has been taking Losec since yesterday and it seems to help curb his votmitting but he is still cranky. PD said it will take a while for the crankiness to stop so hopefully his reflux will get better and he will stop being so cranky. Cos now he will still make the "eng eng" sound (like stretching himself sound) and PD said he make this sound not becos he is stretching himself but becos the gastric acid is going up and down his stomach thus making him uncomfortable. here is a picture of isomil advance 1 which is for newborn 0-6months old babies.

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bizznow, my bb during the first month also hiccups after every feed. PD said it is normal so i just leave it...after 1st month, his hiccups got lesser.

leemay, hope yr bb get well soon. must be very depressing for u at this time but u must rest more so that u have the energy to take care of yr boy when he is discharged.
 
lee may - Hugs! Keeping your boy in my prayers. Hope that he will be OK and out of KK soon. Do rest my dear as you will need the energy to take care of your precious one. Remember, we mummies are the port in the storm.
 
reagrding about confinement lady, do we pay her separately for the marketing she does to cook? or its already including in her $2000 salary??
 
re: feed at nite
I remember reading somewhere nite feeds dun purposly wake bb up if time is up. this is to train bb when is day time n nite? is it true? I have doing this for a wk but notice u guys actually wake bb up when time is up.
 
sharon,
i dun wake him up for feed.. cos my mum n a few ppl telling me.. dun nd to wake them up lor.. let them auto wakie..

starmoon,
my bb always make the sound leh.. and we tot he is stretching himself lor.. n after feed.. he will make a sound 'hnggggg' n stretch himself at the same time.. i tink he having reflux oso.. without vomiting one.. silent reflux.. hmm..
i bot the isomil liao.. nw changing it slowly to tat.. see whther improves.. have difficulties feeding him.. kept struggling.. n crying.. haiz..
 
Rizty, thanks for your advice. in fact, it seems like my breast was rather auto as the timing i posted my q to you, I do not need to pump so breasts are rather soft. I just pumped out 110ml of BF store in my chiller. I have other two more bottles, 1 waiting for baby to drink later and the other next morn. I missed out 1 pumping session this afternoon as hb not around and I have to latch on bb and feed porridge to my son. Haiz, next time dunno how to handle with only two hands.

tf, yes, for the groceries we have to give CL extra $$ to buy. Its not included in this 2k you are paying her. Best is if you can get family members to buy groceries for you, its much better.
 
babycupid,

PD sure more ex than poly. But heard frm colleague tat poly nurse sometimes v rough n not experienced. so i tot go PD better.
 
shycloud

I am on total bf.

starmoon,

yr uncomplicated reflux seems to describe my bb. my bb will occasionally vomit milk but usu is bec he drinks too fast or i move him to bed soon after latch. Nowadays i usu let him lie down on my bf pillow for awhile before moving him to bed so tat the milk can flow down better.
 
sharon

i dun wake bb up for feed. if he cross the usual time i will pump excess milk out but leave some milk for latching when he wakes up.
 
Mornin ladies, me too dun wake bb for feeds..tot they r alarm clock will auto wake up &amp; haunt for food wan...
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Veniz, me oso hv a 4yr old son.. &amp; oso wondering how to cope wif a pair of hands...can be stressful at times...
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ellysia
hw often ur boy oversleep the feedg time? mine usu quite auto, wld start squirmg or whine in her sleep af 3hr max 4.

rizty
i m oso kpg a frozen store of bm. cos at the moment my gal is drkg less than wat i pump.

babycupid
my gal oso mk those sound u said in her sleep, then try to stretch herself oso. smetimes tis happen every few mins. i reali wndr if she is zz well.
 
ellysia
hw often ur boy oversleep the feedg time? mine usu quite auto, wld start squirmg or whine in her sleep af 3hr max 4.

rizty
i m oso kpg a frozen store of bm. cos at the moment my gal is drkg less than wat i pump.

babycupid
my gal oso mk those sound u said in her sleep, then try to stretch herself oso. smetimes tis happen every few mins. i reali wndr if she is zz well.
 
my baby wakes up from sleep with her "sucking lips" and its also time for a feed.

she then eagerly turns towards my nipple and sucks very hard as if some other babies will fight for breast milk with her! then after 2-3 sucks, she will pull away and then get agitated for abt 2 seconds and frantically search for the nipple again n sucks hard for 2-3times and repeatedly do these for a while... i tot my nipple is blocked or something..but its dripping milk when she turns away..this means that she did managed to get milk actually..then why is she doing so?

sometimes she would calm down after many repeated times of what she did as i mentioned above n continue to latch on as normal for the rest of that feed. but sometimes she does that so often that i felt lost and try to comfort her in other ways.

last week, i put her on bottle feed(pumped milk) for 2 days to rest my bleeding nipple.. now my nipple is fully recovered n i latch her on for the past 2 days.

is this nipple confusion or reflux or any of the problems u all have discussed??

shld i ask my paediatrician or LC for help??



and counld anyone tell me if the confinement lady pays for the marketing she does inclusive in her $2000 salary or we have to give her a separate allowance for it??
 
Hello all

Me long time no posting lah....bz hehehe

Just to share

When i came back fr hospital my 1st son Danial got Chicken pop....alamakkkk
After bb Marsyha 13 days old, she also got it...so when to kk and was admitted for 5 days and me also stay there too....luckily she was alright. BB gerl had to vaccine every 7hrs for 1 hr....b4 bb was discharged my 2nd son Ryan and my maid also got it....wow...very stress my this time confinement....didn"t really completed my massage only 3 days and have to accompany my bb in the hospital....but now everybody are much better healing now....

CONGRATS TO ALL MOMMIES>>>>AND SORRY FOR THE LATE WISHES...

Have a good weekend
 
tinyfeet,
U gotta pay for the marketing. not inclusive in her salary. usually my mum/mil wil buy do all marketing, they wil buy wat i wana eat n CL wil cook accordin to e ingredients they bought. then if CL needs other things, she wil tell my mum/mil to buy.
 
tinyfeet, yeah, what mrswrx said is correct. My CL usually will cook whatever my mom/mil buys. If supply in the fridge runs low, she will ask them to buy.
 
hi ladies,
does anyone know of any other places, other than Bengawan Solo, which provide those Thank you card, whereby you buy a cake from them, then you give the cake cards to your friends, and they will collect the cake as N when they like within 6months or 1 year?I am looking for it cos i like to thank you those ppl who gave me gift,as I will not be having 1 month celebration
 
Hi Soyabean.. my colleague kps remindin me to store as much EBM as possible..u never know when u will nd it..and it feels contented to see so many bttles in the freezer...makes me feel like i'm a COW..hahahaha

Danryan, kesian even bb has chic pox..?so small hv to keep vaccine huh!

Gd to hear tat they are healing..
 
Lee May,

i can understand as #1, i discharge w/o my bb too
hving to c our bb in n out of ICU is heartbreaking.
i went thru b4
u gotta stay strong for ur boy k?
 
fennie,
i koe prima deli has it too..

soyabean,
i wonder issit reflux.. see him like bery xinku like tat.. haiz.. now i changing him to isomil.. hopefully it would be better.. tinking of bringing him to PD.. he gets bery cranky during the day time.. but slp well in the nite time.. sometimes really hopes there is a machine which can decode bb crying and koes wat he really wans.. haiz..

Danryan,
wah.. tats bad.. glad that ur bb is well now..
 
fennie,
no prob..

initially i planned to order frm sweetest moment.. but come to tink of it.. i tink i will still stick to cake vouchers..

1st
sweetest moment cakes cant keep so mus make sure the cakes are delivered to the person on the day itself.. (relatives - wat if they not able to atend the full mth cele.. colicks - wat if he/she on leave or on business trips..)

so i tink jus order cake vouchers lor..
 
babycupid...
i wish there was an instrument that can do that! :p maybe u can check with ur PD when u bring him for the first jab.

tinyfeet...
cld it be a case where the milk flow is too fast for her?
 
Hi girls,
Me officially OUT of confinement! Not that I was seriously confined though. But we had the full month celebration today and it feels like having a stone off my mind. Cos initially didnt want to do it, but ILs like to, so got to do...
And I got nice surprise from hubby too
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Hi babycupid,
We order from sweet moments, I must say I am impressed too. My relatives like the ribbons that come with the box, no hassle to take plastic bags. I tried the stuff inside too, very fresh.
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Me keeping the box to store baby's keepsake.

Hi fennie
I also need to order cake vouchers for those who gave gifts but didnt attend celebration. But was thinking if choose those stores with lesser branches, will it be inconvenient for them to redeem the vouchers? Hmm...

Hi sharon
I dun wake babies up for night feeds. Best that they dun wake. hahaha.... If we wake them, we are "training" them to wake lor, no good for long run.
 
starmoon/JP/rooller,
Today i went to c my boy. Doc said CT scan shows tat he have blood clots on back of his head, no fracture. It a kind of blood disorder. Boy is already stable, head swelling is gettin better n he also suckle fairly well. But he had been transferred to ICU this afternoon for better monitoring. If everything ok, he will be discharge in a week time.
 



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