(2008/06) June 2008

Ellysia,
which massage oil did u get?
there's afterbirth treatment and afterbirth relief oil?

anyone has used Healing Bottom Spray from littledreamers?

my stitches still sore, though feel must better than b4. can only apply procanol 2-3x per day
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aiyo earlier i askg abt wat to consume to clear blood clots and mention that my menses is drying up.

'suay' mouth lah.
now my menses become heavier
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Veniz, PIS advanced had defective faceplate issue resulting in lose of vaccum and suction power. it also means the faceplate may pop out from time to time during use. it was a design flaw.The faceplate was redesigned 2 to 4 times before the correct working faceplate was finally designed. This took place before 2008. I can't recall which are the exact models which are affected but the 2008 model is perfectly okay. You may get more info from surfing websites. TF posted some very helpful websites previously on this, with pictures of the corrected faceplate (I think) too!
 
hi all
i'm a june mum,and is new to this thread..just popped on 7 june.Would like to join u ladies hee..
Baby has a little running nose,any recommendations to ease it?or shd i bring him to PD ?
 
Priscilla,
written in the instruction
dun noe whether got side effect anot
so i dare not use
hehe.


neokwong,
welcome n congratuls!
my #2 got running nose since he popped, i didnt do anything. then he recovered b4 discharge.
so really depend.


mummies,
can share what u hv for breakfast?
 
Hi roooller,

To clear blood clots, maybe can buy chinese medicine called "sheng1 hua4 tang1", or go to any chinese medicine hall and ask before buy.
 
Hi Cactus,
Read the previous archived in April & found that some mommies mentioned that the faceplate problem is found before 2006 model. Model after 2006 shd be quite safe. But of course, nobody really sure that 2007 will still have the problem or being corrected already.
 
<font color="blue">morn ladies,
went checkup yday..doc said still no signs of labour..currently my bb still hvnt fully engaged..he said still can feel 1/4 of his head..i think by next week shld be fully engaged..or else jia lat..cos he tell me might end up c-sect if bb nvr engaged when in labour..super sian..but other than dat everything normal..

cactus,
u r still here ah?? hvnt pop over the wkend??

can i noe anyone of u out there using ameda's breast pump now?? gd??i heard it's quite light rite..
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Hi star,
New borns are like this... I remember I nearly wanted to thorw my elder girl out of the window cos she keeps crying no matter what I do.
I think they feel less secure out of the womb and doesnt know the diff btw day and night.
Try setting a routine for baby, it might sound silly, but it works after a while when baby knows after you change diapers, PJs, dim lights, means it is time to sleep.
Have u tried swaddling? Alike in hospital? Worst comes to worst, try the sarong. I put Max in the sarong in the day, less easy to wake and u can rest more.
Dun listen to what old people say lah, they find someone/something to blame when things happen. Not all babies are perfectly easy to care for. Dun worry.

Hi ellysia
Try Ru Yi oil? Just a small dot and massage his tummy. Might help to release air from tummy.
Wow!! Ur milk supply very good leh.
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Keep it up!! mine is reducing liao, and I just realised I am pumping abt 3-4 times a day nia. But ok lah, compared to my elder, max is considered lucky lor.

Hi rooller
I heard black fungus is good for clearing blood too. Cook with ginger chicken wine.

BTW, have I asked? What are you girls planning to do for full month celebration? Max's is next week and I havent gotten round to plan anything YET.
 
roooller

heard that massages can clear the blood clot cos the masseuer will keep massaging the tummy area..the next day all e clots would hv been cleared..heard this from my fran..however i;m starting the session this fri..so will let know again if it works man...;p
 
Hi all,

Able to find what TF research on the 07 &amp; 08 model. I copy and paste below:

<font color="0000ff">Medela PIS Advance 2007 vs 2008:
I think i catch wat the difference could be from the website features. For the same Backpack example:
1) 2 phase - All Advanced model has 2 phase compare to Original which do nt.
"Medela markets them as an even better version of their Original Pump In Style breastpump because of the 2 Phase Expression Technology. The development of the Advanced Shoulderbag and Backpack models incorporated this new technology and some other suggestions from pumping mothers."

2) Toggle betwn 1st phase n 2nd phase
2007 model: With an Advanced breastpump, there are 2 phase of pumping. The first phase is known as the let-down phase. During the let-down phase, the breastpump pumps at a very rapid speed but at a low vacuum level. During this phase, a mother has no control over vacuum or speed. Once th 1st phase is over (after 2 minutes or when the pumping mother overrides it using the let-down button) the pump goes to the 2nd phase of pumping known as the expression phase. It is during the 2nd phase of pumping that a mother can adjust speed and vacuum levels for her own comfort. What concerns us is the inability for a pumping mother to adjust the pump during the first phase of pumping.

So the Advance was a disadvantage over Original in all their 2007 model cos "We actually prefer the Original Pump In Style model over the Advanced models as it is less expensive AND it offers more pumping control for the mother using the pump at all times. A mother can simply start pumping at a fast pace and low vacuum and when her milk lets down slow down the pace and increase the vacuum."

2008 model:
• Improved! 2 Phase Expression
- Allows mom to toggle back &amp; forth from stimulation to expression
- Gentler transition between phases

So for 2008, they improve on 2 phase n at same time overcome the ability nw to toggle betwn 2 phases (which Original can do), so like an improvement of wif combination of Advance 2007 + Original feature.

3) Other misc features like its lighter for 08 than 07.

The above is to differentiate 07 n 08. However, it also states the below which I'm not sure if 07 or 08 model has overcome:

Last but not least, the Advanced Pump in Style Shoulderbag and Backpack models have had and continue to have numerous faceplate issues. Medela has redesigned the faceplate 4 times since the Advanced was introduced. Early on the faceplate would not stay secure. The compromised vacuum seal resulted in mothers experiencing a partial or total loss of suction. In addition to not staying securely in place, the faceplate may crack around the holes where tubing is inserted - again, causing a loss of vacuum either partially or completely. The faceplate may also crack in other areas as well. Any cracks can contribute to lack of functionality.

WARNING ABOUT ALL PUMP IN STYLE MODELS: An issue with all the Medela Pump In Style models - regardless of which one...is the power cord. It has a heavy square "block" style plug that fits into the elctrical outlet. The cord that extends from there is very thin (fine). Many mothers find that they need to replace the power cord once, twice or even more over the life of the pump. DO NOT PULL ON THE CORD to unplug the pump or you'll go through power cords OFTEN. Tripping over it while it is plugged in is also another very common reason the cord may need to be replaced.

Hope this helps.
Felicia, nw left to verify wif the Toh Guan distributor and maybe the full picture is out.

So if faceplate is nt resolved, whether 07 or 08 model, no diff. Only diff on the toggle, lighter n maybe powercord for 08.</font>
 
<font color="blue">hey rooller,
my MIL n mum said can eat this chinese medicine called "su1 he4 yuan2".. </font>
 
thanks nekowong and bizznow
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oh linda,
black fungus, ya think confinement food they did include that dish.
thanks!


bizznow,
i'm using ameda but its 5yrs ago model
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Haven't had time to log in the past 1 day cos too busy pumping and latching. Even then, supply is still quite little.
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I have been drinking the papaya soup 2 times a day. I also wonder if baby is getting enough from latching cos he will usu ask for milk again after 1 hour.

Just saw PD and her advice was to drink lots of fluid and just keep latching on during the day. Cos i still supplement with FM during day but she said should not. Just give FM during nite.

veniz and tf,
thanks for the info on NUK teats.
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veniz,
saw the qn u posed on pumps. i would say PIS cos i am using it and so far it's really quite easy to use plus quite quiet (i pump in the room and hubby is able to sleep through it, hehe). i also bought the handsfree but have not used it yet.

btw, started my massage yest and the binder was super uncomfortable!! can only take it off at 8pm but i took it off at 7pm, before dinner. :p
 
<font color="aa00aa">Morning ladies! Actually is almost noon liao. hehe....

Huggy, no use to call Toh Guan dist, i called them before i make my purchase of PIS. U know wat they told me? They nvr know anything about faceplate issue and the most sad thing is they dont even had 2008 model. (Tat time was in Mar or Apr). Tats why finally i brought from FFY. </font>
 
Felicia,
I will also buy from FFY if I have decided on PIS.

Tera,
Who is your massage lady, can share her contact &amp; charges? TIA.
 
<font color="aa00aa">Medela handsfree:
Actually just recently medela came out a new model for handsfree which cost $900+. If u gals interested can refer to FFY website. But i find the price is really too ex, thou it was really much lighter and easier to handle.</font>
 
<font color="aa00aa">Huggy, like wat i told Veniz, u gals can chck with FFY whether you'll get more disc if using FFY member card, coz i had it. So if can, i can lend to you gals, then more worth to buy a new set.

Tera, talking about FFY, i think i really lost my receipt liao. I couldnt find in my box. So maybe later i need to call FFY and enquiry if warranty need receipt or not. *sigh*</font>
 
bizznow
i;m using the ameda dual pump.as its the only pump i'm using,cant make any comparison.Its quite light and value for money..but i guess its not as quiet as e medela pump...so far its serving its functions..managed to pump out a great deal with it ;p
 
Hello gals, managed to break of my bf time with baby. Kept sleeping, now I just leave her on my bed in her own dreamland.

Cactus, Huggy, Felicia and Tera, thanks for your advice. I am checking further on this.

Tera, the handsfree you have, you bought from mumsfairy isit? For my binder, first night I wore throughout, then yesterday, she rebind for me and after my lunch, I was in such breathlessness. But still can take it, after dinner, I cannot tahan liao took of at 8pm. Today rebind again not so bad now.
 
hi bizznow, yah! I'm still hanging around. so xian!

erm, my doctor told me if bb is 2cm above pelvic bones (3/5 engaged), technically , for 1st time moms, can go into labour already. If yours is 1/4 engaged, then soon will be 3/5 engaged right? (have I gotten my fractions correct?!) So it won't be long before your turn. Let's just hang in there!

By the way, it is not necessary to do c-section hjust cos bb is not that engaged. you should ask your doctor about inducing labour first.
 
<font color="blue">thks nekowong..

cactus,
my doc did tell me abt the inducing labour part..dat's y he said there's possibilities might end up c-sect lor..super sian like dat..btw hor..my bb not 1/4 engaged lah..he oredi engaged 3/4 liao..he said still can feel 1/4 of his head..still got 1/4 hvnt engage.. hehe..</font>
 
bizznow, that's really good news!! 1/4 engaged is really good news! technically you can be in labour anytime now. why xian? there is definatly a chance any woman will end up c-section, but not being fullly engaged before start of labour is not reason to increase risk of c-section cos 2cm above pelvis can start labour already. 2/5 into pelvis can start labour. Did your doctor tell you the condition of your cervix? Is it thinned out already? dilated? erm, anterior or posterior or central?
 
bizznow, my doctor also told me there is a chance of c-section if induced labour. cos I may be an induced case if bb doesn't come out next week. But according to him, risk of c-section is at most 15%... althogh I really don't want c-section, guess no choice is no choice. 15% is not a high percentage though.
 
<font color="aa00aa">oh..bizznow, urs engaged liao? Aiyo, me still had to wait till tmr check up to see my situation.
Yesterday nite, my hubby make me laughed over his naive thinking about dilation. He said i 100% no dilation at all, coz if got dilation sure very very pain liao, cannot walk. Then i told him about our June thread mummies whom 3cm dilation for weeks still walking around. Then he looked at me n said "The baby drop out meh?"*peng*</font>
 
veniz
i had my babe at TMC.That day TMC 's delivery room was practically full..i could hear newborns like every 15 mins..but i guess i was lucky that my delivery was fast..admitted at 12pm -6cm dilation n popped at 330pm..what abt u?at tmc?
 
Sharon,

Yes my bb nose always blocked.

Cynthia,

Hb brought bb to PD to check yest. Checked his lungs and is fine.

To all,

Btw how much weight gain yr bb has obtain within 1st mth? Yest my bb go PD and weight show tat he is now 4.2KG. His birth weight is 3.6KG. That means he gain around 0.6KG within 2 weeks. PD mention he could be overfed thus causing indigestion.

So i try to feed him less but my breasts end up engorge and leak milk. Hiaz so i gotta pump milk out lor.. dunno wat to do with the extra milk.
 
cactus,

since u r ored dilated at 3cm, i tink c-sect chance is rather low. Me admitted at 1.5cm dilation, still give birth natural though is long hr delivery.
 
ellysia

how do u know that e bb nose is blocked?any symptoms to take note of?my bb seems to hv running nose n blocked nose at nite..very worried that he will get fever..bringing him to PD tomm..
 
Verniz,
I took 10-15 min to pump both side. didn't use other pump b4, so would presume it is ok.
BB wake up 2+ to 5+ last nite. lye on the bed and let him suck. He was awake from 5pm to 8pm yestersday evening, nite still so alert. Morning doze off so fast.

huggy,
Eventually still need to freeze the BM if gg back to work force after maternity.

Bizznow,
I'm using Ameda. Find it ok. bought it during Isetan sales a few months back. My frien told me Medela pump is painful and the avent spoil easily. she bought 3 sets over 6 months. She advise me to buy ameda instead. This is my first pump, so no comparison done.
 
Ellysia, yah, that's what my doctor said but I don't have contractions which last more than 2 hours.. the most was just contractions 20 minutes apart for 2 hours... sad. If dun have regular contractions increasing in frequency, will need to induce by next week. I don't really want induction cos it's probably more painful than normal labour. I really want to try to deliver without epidural still. And I can't afford a c-section cos don't want to wait for #2.. planned to have #2 next year... but if it is c-section, no choice but to wait out..
 
nekowong,

i can hear his nose blocked and he has to breathe through his mouth.

cactus,

if gynae break yr waterbag, it can trigger contractions tat is 5mins apart.

Frankly speaking, i didn't encounter any contractions tat is 5mins apart when i go to hosp. It was 10mins apart and 2 hours duration. After gynae break my waterbag, it become 5min apart, then go to 3min apart then back to 5min apart then 3min apart.

If u ored dilated, u won't need the induce pill rite? then just put on drip and the induce liquid? if so it shd be the same liquid as the one i was put on.

Worst come to worst do consider epidural bec if u dun have strength to push out in the end then become c-sect, then even worse.. *touch wood* lah.
 
Hi Ellysia,

I think I may want the pill to induce still although cervix is dilated cos I don't want to start the drip yet. I don't know. have not thought about it. the drip is the one that causes unbearable contractions.. fear I may not be able to cope without epidural in such a situation. I'm not so attracted to breaking waterbag, cos if water bag broken and still no contractions 5 minutes apart, fear of infection may set in cos likely labour will be long and will need to have the drip. I want to avoid the drip.
 
the pill to induce is prostin.. it causes cervix to prepare for labour and may jump start labour even. I'm hoping for that to happen.
 
cactus,

i tot the pill is more painful.
anyway me on epidural, on drip also no feeling.

Btw the breathing exercise is quite effective to relieve pain. i use it to relieve pain for 4 hrs before i ask for epidural.
 
<font color="blue">cactus,
i dunno the condition of my cervix leh..cos my doc nvr do any VE for me..i dun even noe if i am dilated oredi anot..he said he dun 1 2 do VE now cos he wants to avoid inducing bb..so i guess i will only noe whether i am ready oredi anot by next week lor..

felicia,
i think engage liao lah..u n me same timing mah..shld be @ least engaged halfway..hehe..eh..ur hb so funny.. how can bb drop out like dat?? 3 cm dilated only lor..hehe..

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<font color="blue">thks connie n mei..
mei,
noisy ah??how noisy is it?? but it's quite light rite?? i thinking of getting dat actually..cos roxyz was telling me dat her fren recommend to get ameda too..it's quite value for $$$.. </font>
 
Ellysia, I think pill is more painful. Maybe the drip is less painful cos you have epidural, or they started you on a low dose of the drip until you got your epidural? I don't konw.

Bizznow, actually you can ask your doctor to do VE for you cos there is no fear that your bb is not mature anymore. You must be at week 39 now right? Baby should be fully mature at week 37. Then again, sometimes, it's better not to know anything... take it as it comes. you never know, you may dilated already!
 
RE:Confinement Lady
Me having problem wif my CL cos she dun know how to handle newborn BB end up my ger need to admit to TMC and have all the jabs and needles and blood tests. Me so heart pain when i saw her cyring so loud and me cry the whole nite when i wif her on wed nite at TMC.
 
<font color="blue">cactus,
yah..going on to 39weeks this thurs.. dunno lah..since he said dun do then dun do lor..i leave it to him..juz dat now i really hate the waiting part..hehe..but i think i hvnt dilate lah..cos now i dun feel the pain as much as b4 @ the pelvic area liao leh..only a bit..n i can still walk quite fast leh..if dilate oredi shld feel the pain more n cant walk properly liao rite..</font>
 


bizznow, I don't think there's any difference in walking or pain after dilating leh... I only felt a difference when bb was very much engaged.
 
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