Support group - Miscarriages

Princess,
Wasn't sure who to ask too. No harm asking Dr Su, but she give me 2 weeks of medicine now, so can't ask her anytime soon.
Meantime I wouldn't take it, until I cfm it fine. Maybe can try ask ur gynea?
 


thanks Celest, for the link.
i also got read from a few sources that Zinc and Selenium are very important.... and i feel that i seem to be low on zinc and selenium... because i never really eat alot of those zinc and selenium food... so worrying.... if your multi vit has zinc and selenium, then very good....
Did you ask your hubby to eat Folic acid as well?
I am now forcing it down my husband's throat too... Folic is important for man too

Princess,
What you want to ask Dr Su? I can ask for you. I am visiting her this Sat.
I ask my friend, she said ba zhen ready pack are actually quite fresh, because if not fresh, when you brew, there will be a stale taste..... so i guess like what Celestine confirm, those ready pack herbs should be fresh..... just like what you mention earlier on, we would not know if the herbs in those medical halls are safe in the drawers too...
by the way, princess, don't sleep so late lar...
Dr Su say Sleeping late will harm your Qi... if you have Weak Qi, you will not be able to hold BB in your womb....


Min81
best is to ask your Gynae and TCM (if you have one)... I will help you ask Dr Su this saturday because i am going to visit her.... Wait for me to update you ok !!!
by the way, i just check on a website about dang gui and cysts ...
http://www.drmingqi.com/school/school.php?pg=19

it says that as long as you have the right formula, Dang Gui is still safe to use for people with Cysts.... i shall paste below for you to read:

Danggui is a Chinese herb that is commonly used in the American market as a powder or concentrated extract to work on the hormone balance of women to help menopause syndrome and irregular menstruation. Based on the relationship between danggui and estrogen, patients often wonder whether danggui will increases the development of uterine fibroids, or ovarian cysts, or breast cancer. Actually Danggui is a very important herb used in women's healthcare to help many symptoms and diseases related to female hormonal problems. Danggui is combined with different herbs to meet the individual's health problem. When the patient is diagnosed as a deficient, cold type, danggui can be used no matter what type of disease is present, because danggui itself is not a replacement for estrogen. The combination of danggui and other herbs can work with the ovaries and pituitary gland function to balance hormone level of the body. The right formula will be safe to use on the patient with breast cancer, ovarian cyst or uterine fibroids.

btw, Min81...
there is another website:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/464615-herbal-remedies-for-cysts-in-the-ovaries/

it says:
Dang gui shao yao san is a traditional Chinese formula used for gynecological issues, including ovarian cysts. It combines the herb tang kuei, also known as dong quai, with peony.

so i think dang gui is safe... let me check with Dr Su...
 
jhw,

Maybe can help Celest ask abt EPO can take daily or only 2 weeks from AF, cannot take after O. And min81's question on dang gui and cysts.

My next visit to Dr Su still 2 more weeks. Gynae...sigh, till I get preggy lo. Hope to see her soon
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jhw,

Dr Su also ask me to sleep early. I told her after the studies in Nov, I will be a good gal to sleep early, now not possible. Not easy to study and work at the same time, 24/7 not enough. But last night I actually went for movie to de-stressed.
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Princess
i had just register for chao du at the temple now... felt so emo when seeing them write down our names... finally something off the load of my mind. May my bb find his peace after chao du...
Ok, i will write down all questions and ask dr su this sat..
we will see gynae very soon!!!! Lets look forward together!!!
 
Hi all, thanks for well wishes..
I am just thinking and looking out on info on why does the heartbeat of fetus stop when everything else is good. Gynae said no reason but I believe everything happened for a reason.

And is it complusory to Chao du? Everyone does that?
 
jhw,

No worries, things will get better. Now one more thing off your mind. Can move on liao. Jiayou!!

Side track a bit, I have been looking for a group or organisation of birth defects. Since my mc last dec, I add in another resolution to do more charity this year. I had done so for most areas but cannot find the birth defects one. I remembered I saw in one of the charity event some years ago. But cannot find now.
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ya ya
princess.... after my M/c, one of my resolution is also to do more good deeds... no matter in what form..... after the chaodu, i want to donate some money to orphanage or other charity org... any reliable charity organisation for us to do good deed?

princessangel
no, it is not compulsory, it is just that we feel that it is right for us to do it... its up to individual... i just found that most temples in Singapore do Chao Du ceremony during lunar 7th mth, if you are interested, you can check out the nearest temple at your residence. Otherwise you can go to this temple:

Singapore Buddhist Lodge
$30 for a Chao du for your bb,
this is their website:
http://www.sbl.org.sg/
 
princessangel

No, it is not expensive to do in Singapore buddhist lodge, it is only $30

I register with the temple near my house.
and it is only $50 too

u can choose to attend the day of chao du or not to attend... totally up to individual.
if you attending, you can just bring some milk...
 
Jhw,

Thanks so much for helping me to check with Dr Su about the dang gui.. Then i won't take the ba zhen first.. I'm not seeing any tcm now and won't be seeing my gynae till end of the mth.. Just now i tried DOM for the first time.. Took a tablespoon (like those that doctors give us for cough syrup).. Is that enough? I already took a while trying to finish a tablespoon cos was so hot.. Haha.. Cos i don't drink at all, so not used to alcohol.. Will try to take more if necessary.. I was also wondering, can we take DOM after ovulation? Cos i'm worried, what if there's a chance of pregnancy.. Pregnant cannot take alcohol rite?

Many many thanks for helping me to ask your tcm!!
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jhw,

Dunno which charity is reliable nowadays after so many incidents happened. Some private organisation, without govt support usually will advert on newspaper that they need donation. Usually I look out for that, check on their background then send money over.
 
min81,

no worries...
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For DOM, Dr Su taught me to drink it with using the Cap of the DOM bottle. I fill it to nearly full and drink it from the Cap. Ya it is very hot !! haha... so i drink it slowly... don't drink too fast ok ... alcohol must slowly drink.... otherwise, u can also splash it into your normal herbal soup and drink together.... some say you can mix with water and drink together... Don't drink on empty stomach, better to drink with a meal... i also not very used to it because i never take liqour or alcoholic drink on normal days one....

Dr Su told me we can take DOM during Ovulation But Not during Menses and pregnancy.... I guess once you start to TTC or baby dance, you should stop DOM already.... let me ask Dr Su on this as well
 
jhw: ok.. I also heard some do it specially for the baby and parents have to be there. about 400 for 3 hours ritual. I guess all depend on individual. For yours, do you have to be there?
 
Princess,
ya, thats very true.. now so many audit issues, i also don't know which is reliable... but i guess, we just do it from the heart sincerely , so should be okay...

Angel,
For mine, i can choose to be there or not be there... but this is the first chao du i am doing for BB, so i will try to be there.... actually this is a Mass Chao du that i sign up with...
 
Thanks, jhw!
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Cos i've already started to ttc since gynae says it's okie.. Then since this month can't do ivf, so i'm just trying naturally first.. Although i think chances not very high, haiz.. But i guess no harm trying.. So will be careful for 2ww after ovulation..
 
Ladies, I guess I might have UTI, will be gg to see doc tmr...

I read that it is common among women even in some preggies, so when in pregnancies shld we be more alert? Or just inform gynae n he will take note for us?

Coz the concern is there since got plans ttc later n dont wanna it becomes kidney infection.

min81, feel happy for u starting to ttc
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Sandra.. urinery infenction? By the way have you gone back to work? how long is your MC? u doing confinement for 2 weeks? Btw was just asking jhw about chao du.. are you doing that for your baby as well?

I also want to start TCC but have to wait 3 months. It's 4 weeks since my induce labour.. waiting for my first menses now..
 
Princess Angel: my gynae says my bb heartbeat stop, it culd be a caused of chromosomal abnormalities. I read that up and it is the most common miscarriage and happens to almost half of it.. Wonder if all ladies here the gynae says the same thing?

As for chao du i gg to same temple as Princess & Jhw..My daddy remind me to go again on the 7th month to pay for the rituals conducted by monk

Sandra: Better faster consult doc for ur UI & best to let gynae check ur womb to see for any infection
 
TqT,
i almost forget to tell you.
my colleague recommended Dr henry cheng, gynae from the Women Specialist Clinic. He is good. I read his reviews before and he is really good at his stitches and always try his best to save bb. He is very gentle with the ladies and he saved my colleague and her bb life when she had her third child at age 38.... when she had her first child, kkh asked her to do dnc bcos bb no heartbeat. But my colleague refuse to give up n seek second opinion with dr cheng. He ask her to wait bcos bb heartbeat sometimes not very obvious at early pregnancy. She waited and her bb is saved...
 
TQT: I was 20 weeks when my baby heartbeat stopped. So i wonder if chromosomal abnormalities still exist at 2nd trimester? My gynae after reading my reports, tests and baby growth, he told me he can't find a reason for me. It's sad when there's no reasons at times..
 
Jhw: Ur fren was very lucky..my fren too her gynae cant detech heartbeat but i forget that dunno she say her gynae check abt wat then can see the heartbeat and faster gave her hormone injection..her bb was saved too..
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i strongly agreed that to check whether gynae is good anot and i definately nt gg bk to my old one coz i rem when i MC he told me that its very common and he see this case everyday..and bascially this rype of gynae wont bother to save our bb.. Does Dr henry cheng do abortion?

Princess Angel: Undstd hw u feel, it doesnt feel any better when they do have a reason.. as u start to blame urself more..We gotta be strong n move on & jia you

HAPPY NATIONAL DAY TO ALL LADIES IN THE HSE!! <3
 
PrincessAngel, yes urinary tract infection I suspect coz got some symptoms. I haven't gone back to work yet as I took leave coz wanna take gd care of my body n decides to do 30 days confinemt instead. (lucky colleagues are understanding).

Yes dear...saw u ladies talking on that, my mil took the initiative to help me take care of the chao du..

This is the 3rd wk since induction... n yes gotta wait 3 mths for ttc but I scare as dono if UTI will become kidney infection. Have to cure/prevent kidney infection if plan ttc.

Thks TQT, so womb oso will be infected? If go to normal doc n upon request will they do a test for me to confirm? Must look for gynae better?
 
TQT,
i just sms my colleague and she say she not sure if dr henry cheng do abortion. I go online also nv find any news on that...i think u can call up to ask... my coll say his appt always very full one.
 
Jhw n TQT,, thks for sharing your colleague n fren sty here, it's very encouraging to know that there r still gd experience gynaes ard n to seek 2nd opinion b4 any decision is made!

TQT, saw wat ur gynae said.. I hate it when my gynae said '不要太难过,不要怪自己,象我所说的,过了那个黄金年龄就是要做出一些牺牲的' more than 1x even though may not be intentional. Haiz.. Feel like Yes i know n u don't hv to remind me...

Angel, initially I oso 不甘心 look on the websites day n night for reason y it happened but can't find any. I cannot accept no reason when he said it's rather unusual n may not really due to incompetent cervix but to be safe, stitch or put cerclage for next preg. I agreed w TQT doesn't feel any better even w a reason. All our bbs got bonding w us, they know, they understand. I firmly believe
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Nevertheless , wish all ladies here happy national day!!! Happy 补身 n lots of baby dust soon!!!
 
Sandra, yep.. i understand.. we requested to do a post mortem (not sure if u have done) as my hubby want to be sure that it's nothing genetic before we start to ttc..

I believe all this are fated.. If it's meant to be, even some ppl fall down lightly baby also unaffected. But if it's not meant to be, even how cautious or bedrest everyday, Miscarriage also will happen.

Just to tell ourselves it's not fated this time round and pray for baby to come again soon.
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Angel, I didn't noe hv to request. As after induced, the nurse told me that bb will be taken to gynae first. So I presume he wld hv examined n tell us if there is anyting wrong when we return for check up 2 wks later. but he only mention abt the cervix problem nothing else. Faintz..

Btw, did u take herbal stuffs as mentioned by the ladies here?

Ladies,

I heard taking American ginseng(花旗参) to brew soup is gd to bu the womb but can be ex. Anyone heard b4?
 
Sandra: Sometimes these gynae they really abit too much, when i went for D&amp;C that day my hb req the doc to do another scanning and he gave a black face and say he 100% confirm bb has die...and guess wat he use the scanning thing and press on my tummy very very hard and i nearly scream..so i told my hubby afterward that i am nt gg to see him for my next bb.. My case is after D&amp;C 3 weeks later i went for a review by my gynae and he scan my womb n see if its clear and if womb gt infection..

Jhw: Sure will go check it out if i am preggy again..Tks dear
 
Sandra: Ic.. usually the hospital will ask if u want to do a post mortem for further checks.
Yep I do take both brewed and instant herbs.
 
Jhw,
Thank for helping me to check with Dr Su.
Actually on wed i wanted to ask her, but alway forgot to mention.
Can u ask her, isst fine for us to take evening primrose oil?
Shd we take everyday or only during the AF to Ovulation period.
Quite confuse when reading those internet info, hahaha!
 
TQT, omg!! So crude n so insensitive.!! U made the rite choice to forgo him for next preg. Pls pm me your gynae detail. at this time, I m checking out other gd gynaes ard. I saw Dr James w s lee 's review ( not much) like not bad.


Angel, nope. Hospital never ask. I dono if they got ask my hb but if got he will normally discuss w me. but since it's already passed. I don't think wanna check w hb. I noe he is still v sad abt this. Guys oso poor thing, need to remain strong for women...
 
TQT: that's very bad of your gynae!

Actually i also wanted to change gynae next time i preggy again. Not because he's not good, but just that i do not wish to go back to the same place, being reminded of...
 
Angel, understand. Do whatever it makes u feel better
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jia luck, I so worry my back pain is due to UTI . Better sleep early n call gynae tmr. Talk again.. U sleep early too
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Nitez...
 
Hi sandra,

Thanks.. Don't worry too much now k.. Just focus on building up your health once again.. I waited quite a while too.. Had 4 cycles after miscarriage.. Gynae gave me green light to start trying again only after 3rd cycle.. Was supposed to start ivf on 4th cycle but doc saw cysts during the scan so i have to wait another cycle to see if cysts go off.. I'll just try natural this cycle first..

Take good care!
 
Celest,
ok no problem!!!!
Will update u after i ask...
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Gals,
Do your hubbies take any multivitamins?
I feel like getting a reputable brand for my hb to eat.. any recommendations ?
 
jhw,

Yes, ever since gynae ask me to take multi-vit, my hb take too. Cos he also very picky with food. I think its better for him to take to get the necessary nutrients. So, now he take multi-vit, folic acid, Dr Su's medicine.
 
Jhw,

My hubby takes Kordel's Bio Liquid-Multi.. We are kordel's fans.. Hehe.. I think any established brand you can get in pharmacies are fine..
 
Jhw,

Oh ya my hubby also takes zinc chelate.. Was recommended by my previous gynae last time as his sperm count was low cos he was on some medi to prevent hair loss.. Within a span of about 9 mths, his sperm count went from 10 mil to 30 mil to 50 mil.. My current gynae also told him to take Vit E 400iu and Vit C 1000iu.. He also started taking folic acid when he read some articles that says it's good for sperm too..
 
Jhw,

Oh ya my hubby also takes zinc chelate.. Was recommended by my previous gynae last time as his sperm count was low cos he was on some medi to prevent hair loss.. Within a span of about 9 mths, his sperm count went from 10 mil to 30 mil to 50 mil.. My current gynae also told him to take Vit E 400iu and Vit C 1000iu to improve sperm quality.. He also started taking folic acid when he read some articles that says it's good for sperm too..
 
min81,

Your hb still taking medi for sperm count problem? My hb used to have quality and quantity issue. He went to Zhong Hua and he took their medicine. Within 6 mths, his sperm count shot from 10 mil to 85 mil now. So, now only left quality issue to tackle.
 
Snoopy77,

There's only 1 brand that we found that has exact same content as what my previous gynae prescribed.. Hers was very exp that's why we tried to get from outside.. Can get from unity or guardian.. Brand is Greenlife.. Think better to check with doctor regarding such supplements cos it's not common like vit c..

Princessleopard,

So far my hubby only took supplements, no medi.. Actually last yr he was on tcm with me.. But in the 4th mth, he had a bad allergic reaction to the medicine.. I took him to a&amp;e in the middle of the nite to get jab.. So I wanted him to stop all tcm..
 
hi min81,
I tink it might be ur hb allergic to certain TCM herbs.Hv u gone bk to ur TCM n ask abt it? For e.g. I am allergic to dang gui.If i eat dang gui,i'll get headache or sore throat coz too heaty. Maybe try to find out which herb cause the allergic rather giving up on TCM.

Hi Princessleopard,
May i know where is ZhongHua &amp; what medine wat ur hb take to increase sperm quality?
 



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