Tats nice. Where r u doing yr fet gal. Am also praying for all sisters in tww. Will transfer 2.Me too. Our FET on the same day. Rooting for you and your embies too. How many embryos are you transferring?
Tats nice. Where r u doing yr fet gal. Am also praying for all sisters in tww. Will transfer 2.Me too. Our FET on the same day. Rooting for you and your embies too. How many embryos are you transferring?
Gal hugs..am also pcos and did long protocol with lucrin and pergoveris. Managed to yield good eggs. You may ask dr tan if u can try pergoveris with menopur.Hi dear. Firstly congrats on your transfer earlier on. Probably they are empty follicles like cysts. So the 1 egg that he retrieved was of bad quality also. So there's no embryo to transfer. He recommends that he might increase the dosage of menopur for my next ivf. Doing it in january cycle. He also changed me to long protocol. I have PCOS. Thats the tricky part. In the meantime, losing some weight and healthy diet could also help in a way. Envys those who are able to continue and finish up the race!
Haven decided which mth yet. Unlikely January.. Either feb/March/apr.. I was with the famous TSB but no luck so far. Going to try the accupunture at Clementi in November.. Long wait for the first appt.After last fresh transfer bfn, left 10 frosties, doc agree that next FET try D5 since already failed 4 d2/3 transfers. It's high risk so pray very hard and root for the embies.
You planning to do FET in Jan right. Meantime can 'tiao' body, eat healthy, have good rest, get charged up mentally & physically for FET. You consulting tcm?
Don't be sad. I'm joining you on Menopur. Starting in Dec. Jia youHi dear. Firstly congrats on your transfer earlier on. Probably they are empty follicles like cysts. So the 1 egg that he retrieved was of bad quality also. So there's no embryo to transfer. He recommends that he might increase the dosage of menopur for my next ivf. Doing it in january cycle. He also changed me to long protocol. I have PCOS. Thats the tricky part. In the meantime, losing some weight and healthy diet could also help in a way. Envys those who are able to continue and finish up the race!
I had red bean soup on alternate days during my tww which i had a bfp. Suppose to keep warm or make it sticky I heard.Did with dr loh at tmc. Oh not sure must drink red bean soup till et or tww. Sisters pls advise.
Let's fight this journey together DawnBBI started Dec'14 and done 4 transfers (including 1 FET) till date. I'm classic example of having good quantity & quality D2 embies but no bfp so far yet. Already transferred total of 9 D2 embies all bfn. So next FET going for D5 but not too hopeful coz worst case is nothing to transfer or even if have, may be low grade. I think due to advance age, my embies are mostly abnormal tho they look good at D2. So actually also been thinking a lot about next fresh cycle, whether one more try with own eggs or straight to donor eggs.
Let's not give up! Fighting! Jia you k!
Can put pandan leaves and rock sugar or just pure red bean?I had red bean soup on alternate days during my tww which i had a bfp. Suppose to keep warm or make it sticky I heard.
I was already late 37 after trying to conceive naturally with timed deeds using OPKs for over 6 months. During that time,I consulted a tcm physician whom my dad knows to tiao my body. He doesn't do acupuncture just prescribed herbs for brewing. 4 months of herbs later, physician say nothing wrong with me so cannot keep taking herbs le. Then my friend urged me don't wait to get things checked and recommended Dr Loh as his wife bfped on 2nd ivf under dr Loh.Haven decided which mth yet. Unlikely January.. Either feb/March/apr.. I was with the famous TSB but no luck so far. Going to try the accupunture at Clementi in November.. Long wait for the first appt.
Are u with any Tcm? What makes u choose SF Loh from the start? Pte can't use any govt grant.. It must be very costly. Not everyone can afford..
Is ok I'm used to tolerating pain in all forms. Have to say the most pain in my life was when I had Csect (had epidural but no painkillers), it was very very hard to bear with the pain for several nights. I cried most nights not because I feel emotional but because of the pain. However I got through it eventually...very tough.
Thanks dramaqueenie, is tough however I just bear and grit over the few days and eventually got through it. Is all worth it for the moment we meet our precious for the very first time.Wow... I salute you mommy. I have been through csects myself, even though I was walking around by the next day but still had to rely on strong painkillers for the first few days. The nurses always say don't need to be heroic, in pain just take.
Jiayou
Actually if u go through pte route in govt hosp, u don't really have to wait that long. But anyway, since you're already with sf lof, don't think so much already.I was already late 37 after trying to conceive naturally with timed deeds using OPKs for over 6 months. During that time,I consulted a tcm physician whom my dad knows to tiao my body. He doesn't do acupuncture just prescribed herbs for brewing. 4 months of herbs later, physician say nothing wrong with me so cannot keep taking herbs le. Then my friend urged me don't wait to get things checked and recommended Dr Loh as his wife bfped on 2nd ivf under dr Loh.
Did some research & felt confident with Dr Loh so went to consult him then confirm sperms issues & ICSI is our only option. Did more research then decided time is really not in our side so not many cycles we can try if we hope to have a bb before I'm 40 or at most 42. This means really cannot afford queue at public hospitals. Very xiong but it was ok for us to cut on lifestyle & get by still.
After fail 1st ICSI, I researched on tcm docs & was intending to consult Dr Zou at AMK. I was still working then and really cannot afford the waiting time. So to simplify things, I consulted Dr Seah Ai Wei at Thomson TCM as near TFC so i can arrange consultations on same day. Hubby could only do Sat so he consulted Dr Gee of Thomson TCM at Katong which was near where we live.
Now not working coz former workplace couldn't accommodate the frequent leave/ time off. Fortunately I'm quite a saver so now just diminishing my savings... very xiong and pocket bleeding with parents' allowance, food stuff, housing plus ivf of course being the main expenses. We keep things simple & still can get by for now.
Must stay positive still. Won't get better if otherwise. Hope the moon & stars align soon for me lor
yes! Thanks Sparkling_ee.Let's fight this journey together DawnBB
Did your doctor explain what could be the possible other than age? Did you eat multivitamins as well?
Hi where did u get ur immunocal from? Can't find in OG as stated by some sisters hereHi
I have 7 packs of immunocal to give away FOC. Left over from my previous IVF cycle. Expiry in Dec 2015. Didn't take them anymore after I BFP. Just need to pay a token of $3 for postage and handling. Do PM me if anyone keen to have them.
Did u get ur DHEA fr iherb? Eat 2 pills at one go or once in am and once at pm?yes! Thanks Sparkling_ee.
No other reasons. All baseline hormones, uterus lining, ovaries and tubes tested/ scanned ok. By 3rd ICSI, hubby's swimmers even improved much and just left with morphology below normal std (initially was dismay, volume, concentration, motility & morphology all way below par). I also had my best response to the stim after doc was able to adjust the protocol based on my response for previous 2 cycles. So doc also worked his magic le... all look good every ET with d2/3 embies but just never bfp. So next FET going for d5 is a way of test also as we can see how the embies grow beyond D2. It's dilemma 2 edged sword... risking having nothing at all or good to transfer and if at least one good blastie, it will be a test on whether the soil (uterus, body etc) is good for implantation.
Have been taking Blackmore conceive well gold, coq10, fish oil, royal jelly and doing tcm too. After 2nd ICSI, started Dhea 2x25mg daily (stop after ER & during 2ww) at dr loh's advice.
All for the determination to exhaust all means to try striking bfp with my own eggies & body before other options. Very stubborn hor... But not giving up yet so trying to gather strength, esp mentally & emotionally. Everyone has their own challenges but with common goal. Jia you jia you!
Now I am back for my 4th fresh cycle. Ladies may I check any solution. I jab myself until bruises on my tummy. How to lighter my pain or bruises. Me now 1day 3jabs. All my dosage max.
Now I am back for my 4th fresh cycle. Ladies may I check any solution. I jab myself until bruises on my tummy. How to lighter my pain or bruises. Me now 1day 3jabs. All my dosage max.
I really recommend checking with your doc if you are suited to take DHEA and if so, what dosage.Did u get ur DHEA fr iherb? Eat 2 pills at one go or once in am and once at pm?
Do u still rem how much is ur FSH level?
Hi Dawn, don't need to add any water into the chicken. The water is added outside the pot as it's a double boil. What you want is the essence of the chicken. So even if you don't add any water to the chicken, there'd still be like a quarter bowl of "juice" from the chicken. I bought a double boiler (see photo) to do this. But if you don't hv a double boiler, you can try this homemade method: http://jewelpie.com/homemade-chicken-essence-to-relief-tiredness/Hello Celestialbaby, how much water do you add & do you add anything else? Thanks for sharing.
All the best for your ET on Monday! Jia you!
Good luck. I'm doing mine in KL. Let's jia you together. All the best!Tats nice. Where r u doing yr fet gal. Am also praying for all sisters in tww. Will transfer 2.
Praying for you too sister. Really admire your courage and your big heartedness to be encouraging sisters here. Jia you. Your turn will come soon.I was already late 37 after trying to conceive naturally with timed deeds using OPKs for over 6 months. During that time,I consulted a tcm physician whom my dad knows to tiao my body. He doesn't do acupuncture just prescribed herbs for brewing. 4 months of herbs later, physician say nothing wrong with me so cannot keep taking herbs le. Then my friend urged me don't wait to get things checked and recommended Dr Loh as his wife bfped on 2nd ivf under dr Loh.
Did some research & felt confident with Dr Loh so went to consult him then confirm sperms issues & ICSI is our only option. Did more research then decided time is really not in our side so not many cycles we can try if we hope to have a bb before I'm 40 or at most 42. This means really cannot afford queue at public hospitals. Very xiong but it was ok for us to cut on lifestyle & get by still.
After fail 1st ICSI, I researched on tcm docs & was intending to consult Dr Zou at AMK. I was still working then and really cannot afford the waiting time. So to simplify things, I consulted Dr Seah Ai Wei at Thomson TCM as near TFC so i can arrange consultations on same day. Hubby could only do Sat so he consulted Dr Gee of Thomson TCM at Katong which was near where we live.
Now not working coz former workplace couldn't accommodate the frequent leave/ time off. Fortunately I'm quite a saver so now just diminishing my savings... very xiong and pocket bleeding with parents' allowance, food stuff, housing plus ivf of course being the main expenses. We keep things simple & still can get by for now.
Must stay positive still. Won't get better if otherwise. Hope the moon & stars align soon for me lor
Thanks so much! Agree that everything in moderation. My tcm doc always remind "不要偏食” must eat healthy balanced diet. My ex-coll's tcm doc also advised her cannot take too much chicken & she used beef. Before ivf days, my dad helped to boil a few times using grass-fed beef I bought from Foodie Market. But beef essence too 补, cannot take as much or everyday.Hi Dawn, don't need to add any water into the chicken. The water is added outside the pot as it's a double boil. What you want is the essence of the chicken. So even if you don't add any water to the chicken, there'd still be like a quarter bowl of "juice" from the chicken. I bought a double boiler (see photo) to do this. But if you don't hv a double boiler, you can try this homemade method: http://jewelpie.com/homemade-chicken-essence-to-relief-tiredness/
Actually I think Dr Zou doesn't encourage us to drink too much chicken essence cos she says of the hormones from the chicken. She says better to use kampung chicken or black chicken but i just use chicken breast meat. I guess everything in moderation... only started drinking chicken essence the last few days to prepare for FET.
Hi Mesara. Really? Ok, i will ask the nurse to check with him! May i know if you are also under him?Gal hugs..am also pcos and did long protocol with lucrin and pergoveris. Managed to yield good eggs. You may ask dr tan if u can try pergoveris with menopur.
Hello jkoh! Short cycle or long?Don't be sad. I'm joining you on Menopur. Starting in Dec. Jia you
Hi where did u get ur immunocal from? Can't find in OG as stated by some sisters here
For fet can start next month, fresh is at least 2cycles...Does anyone know after the failed ivf, when can one start on FET or new cycle?
Put ice onto area before jab,after jab,put ice again for 1-2mins and for the pregnyl jab after tat jab,put on ice pack again too...is a savior for pain killing jabs...Now I am back for my 4th fresh cycle. Ladies may I check any solution. I jab myself until bruises on my tummy. How to lighter my pain or bruises. Me now 1day 3jabs. All my dosage max.
Oh, that was how long ago? Think I went to search few mths back but can't find. Is it at the health supplement area?I bought from OG bugis but that was quite awhile back.
I love your determination DawnBB. I am same age as you, I started straight into ivf in view of time line to enjoy the subsidy. lets look forward to our graduation day next cycleyes! Thanks Sparkling_ee.
No other reasons. All baseline hormones, uterus lining, ovaries and tubes tested/ scanned ok. By 3rd ICSI, hubby's swimmers even improved much and just left with morphology below normal std (initially was dismay, volume, concentration, motility & morphology all way below par). I also had my best response to the stim after doc was able to adjust the protocol based on my response for previous 2 cycles. So doc also worked his magic le... all look good every ET with d2/3 embies but just never bfp. So next FET going for d5 is a way of test also as we can see how the embies grow beyond D2. It's dilemma 2 edged sword... risking having nothing at all or good to transfer and if at least one good blastie, it will be a test on whether the soil (uterus, body etc) is good for implantation.
Have been taking Blackmore conceive well gold, coq10, fish oil, royal jelly and doing tcm too. After 2nd ICSI, started Dhea 2x25mg daily (stop after ER & during 2ww) at dr loh's advice.
All for the determination to exhaust all means to try striking bfp with my own eggies & body before other options. Very stubborn hor... But not giving up yet so trying to gather strength, esp mentally & emotionally. Everyone has their own challenges but with common goal. Jia you jia you!
Oh, that was how long ago? Think I went to search few mths back but can't find. Is it at the health supplement area?
I bought from OG Albert at bugis. 2nd floor just ask cashier.Hi where did u get ur immunocal from? Can't find in OG as stated by some sisters here
Yeah. Will u be staying in kl for few days before returning. Tiring journey.Good luck. I'm doing mine in KL. Let's jia you together. All the best!
Yes gal am under dr tan also.Hi Mesara. Really? Ok, i will ask the nurse to check with him! May i know if you are also under him?
Hi dawnbb,thank you for your inspriational quotes.@Dreamscometrue, well said!
It's indeed a roller coaster emotional and physically taxing journey, isn't it? Each time we start, no matter how cautious, we carry hope as we face hurdles after hurdles. Then the torturous 2ww reaches the end, some of us get there and some of us don't. After compromises and sacrifices, the success of a viable bb bump in our tummies seem no where in sight yet for some of us. To top it off, we feel the burden of disappointment of our loved ones and the stabbing mockery and self-pity in the sight of other ladies with bumps or popping bbs from natural conception. Feeling the depression of each failure yet with diminishing savings and for the sake of future treatments, we can't over-indulge in destructive comfort of retail therapy or binging.
After failing 4 transfers, I do not feel less painful each time but I tell myself it is ok to grieve, hubby must let me grieve then I must bounce back and move on. I find myself increasingly avoiding contact with those who will never get us going thru this journey, as self protection and as being considerate to others saving us from awkward situations. Being aligned with hubby and supporting each other is an ultimate comfort. Finding and giving support and inspiration to ivf-ers is yet another recently newfound comfort for me and I hope it's the same for the rest in this forum too.
Nothing and no one can guarantee we will get there and when, but no one can deprive us of our right to hope, try and persevere till the couple decides for themselves what is the final option to complete their own family.
Dear @connie_hopeful, all ladies and my friends here, don't give up and hope we all get there one day to carry a bb bump in our tummies. *Hugs with lots of love*
Just chicken breast , need to put a little bit water in ? Need to put how many grams chicken breast ?Hi ladies, I cut the chicken breast into smaller slices and I use the flat face of the knife to pound it first. I read somewhere saying that this helps the essence to come out easier. Then I double boil for 3 hrs. Hope tt helps.
Doing short cycle in Dec. THH gave me gonal F 200 on my first cycle, retrieved 7 and 2 fertilised. He said I didn't response well to gonal so change me to Menopur and puregon. So I think is 1 additional jab. Hope it will turn out well.Hello jkoh! Short cycle or long?
Short cycle.Doing short cycle in Dec. THH gave me gonal F 200 on my first cycle, retrieved 7 and 2 fertilised. He said I didn't response well to gonal so change me to Menopur and puregon. So I think is 1 additional jab. Hope it will turn out well.
About 200 g. Sinsei asked me to put in about 2 tablespoons of water to prevent the breast from drying out.Just chicken breast , need to put a little bit water in ? Need to put how many grams chicken breast ?
Which tcm u went to? Sorry can't rem whether I asked u beforeAbout 200 g. Sinsei asked me to put in about 2 tablespoons of water to prevent the breast from drying out.
Hi ladies, did anyone ever tried using test kit which shows positive but blood test result come out negative? I was not given any hcg trigger btw..
ban choon chan in marine paradeWhich tcm u went to? Sorry can't rem whether I asked u before
I see.. That's too far for me.. Anyone here went to the one at Clementi before?ban choon chan in marine parade