(2007/12) Dec 2007 MTB

lynzi, tried liao. end up she wanted our food so we gave her our brown rice. i tot she wanted to eat adult food so prepared brown rice and fish... she refused...

csi, i hope susu outgrows this too... her appetite seems to hv improved. gave her 130ml of ebm and she asked for more. so gave 30+30ml just now. she took all willingly.
 


tub!! Me me! You have 1 baby here that behaves like su... though not as bad. I can really relate with you. We had a hard time feeding Jr at home.. whereas at my mum's place.. he takes his porridge much better... with tv on that is. Did u try cheese? Jr hates it at first.. but now he loves his cheese. We had to resort to 1 spoon porridge, 1 spoon cheese (just a tiny bit).. he'll cry once he realised he's being tricked into opening his mouth for porridge.. then i give him 1 biscuit for him to pop into his mouth. I wonder if we are spoiling him... v tempted to let him go hungry for longer hrs and see if he'll eat!
 
Oh ya and worse still.. he'll cry n cry when he dun wanna eat. Bang his head on the high chair.. use his hands to hit his ears... V v bad-tempered bb. And a few times, he'll keep the food in his mouth till gag.. then vomit out EVERYTHING... v disheartening..
 
Ladies, thank you so much for the encouragements... *Hugz*

btw, can any of your bbs walk yet? Aidan is able to take 2-3 steps now. And he looks sooo... cute wobbling around.

Ladies who have stopped breast-feeding:
when you press your nipples, do you still see some milk droplets? My beautician told me that one of her clients stopped breastfeeding for more than 6 months, and when she did breast massage for her, there was milk oozing out. She said this residual milk may cause problems in future. Yesterday when I was bathing, I squeezed my nipples, there was some milk! It worries me to bits. Any advise??
 
bluelily, susu will not close her mouth when she doesn't want to eat she'll let the food ooze out of her mouth! wa lau! civil disobedience man... yes... disheartening is the word...
 
Higgledy and Cocoangel,
maybe can ask lactation consultant? I am waiting for the KKH Yen Ping to call me back. Actually I am also like that after I stopped bf my elder one. In fact, I still have a block milk duct that is not cleared even up till now. I am just thinking how to remove it after I stop bf.
 
tub, bluelily

haha i also have this problem. dylan will scream and shout in his highchair and if i put the food in his mouth, he will make a gagging noise and let it all ooze out of his mouth! really can faint leh.
 
Mongs,
You are scaring me.. I have just called up TMC parentcraft, no one picks up, will call again later.

Higgledy,
Re you being retrenced, please dun be too upset. Take this time to spend with your boy and before you know it, you will be back to workforce and be missing it
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I was also retrenced months back but luckily I got a better job 2 mths later. So, it may be a blessing in disguise?
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Ber
Please update after you have spoken to the people at parentcraft. I have just stopped bfing 2 days ago ... can still do something to empty the 'reservior' if need be.

Higgledy
Cheer up! Take this opportunity to spend quality time with your son ... this is something money cannot buy.
 
Val,
I called up liao, she said its normal, dun press, squeeze or pump.. it will go off eventually but dunno how long this is going to take. If you experienced engorgement or the milk is oozing out when you work, then apply cold cabbage and wear your bra, change every 2 hrs.
 
<font color="aa00aa">tub,
alamak...that also doesn't work?
in this case i think u just have to keep feeding at the stipulated time and be thankful for any amount she wants to eat.
hopefully she will grow out of this soon!

bluelily,
jr also like that ah now?
sometimes i realised this kids know who they can bully.
usually they will readily take food from the main caretaker (this scenario excludes dylan though...hehehe)
for my case, if its my dad or sis or mum feeding faiq, he wont be able to finish his normal food intake.
very manja</font>
 
Linda,
Hehe... initially was curious, so just after BF, I squeezed to see if still got milk then as time goes by, I will do that during bathing :p
 
thanks for all the encouragement.... Jazzell is finally fine now.. from yesterday till today, *touch wood* no fever yet n hopefully maintain this way... not given panadol @ all... onli given lin yang yesterday night... it just recovers by itself... haha.. will still continue giving barley lol

umm... me a bit sua kuo... but wads rolled oats???

higgledy,
cheer up... dun be upset. Take time to spend with your boy n treasure it... who koes, u might b able to get a better job next yr...
 
just read about the bf... y need to squeeze out??? i thought it will stop by itself once is being left untouched??? i did dis when i wanna stop bf leh..
 
Higgledy and cocoangel,
Yen Ping just called back. I asked about

1) the block milk duct that I still have
ans: get it scanned once I stopped breastfeeding, if they confirmed that it's milk cyst, they will use a needle to break it.

2) to stop breastfeeding
ans: use cabbage and very tight bra, loosen when it's very tight

3) milk oozing out when squeezed after ending bf
ans: it is normal and depending on individual, the milk ducts will stop production and storage at different time. her daughter who stop bf for 2 years already still have milk coming out when she squeezed her breast.
 
Teeth Poll:

Clarene - 2 bottom teeth
QJ - 4 on top, 4 below
Alexis - 0
Arvin - 0
Kyrell - 4 on top, 2 below (another 2 below coming out soon, now barely visible)
Sumana - 2.5 top, 2 bottom
dylan - 3 on top and 3 below
Yu Ru - 4 on top, 3 below
Faiq - 4 on top, 3 below
Shawn - 4 on top, 4 below
Jerielle- 2 on top, 2 below (another 2 coming out)
Jazzell - 1/2 teeth popping out...
Declan - 3 on top 3 below (Another 2 coming put on top)
Gabby - 4 on top, 5 below (another one coming out)
Louisa - 4 on top, 2 below
Stef - 4 on top, 2 below (another 2 on top coming out)
shirui - 2 bottom..
Jr - 2 bottom (1 on top coming out)
Josh - 2 top and 2 bottom
Nicole - 4 bottom (1 on top coming out)
Kaylen - 4 top, 4 bottom
Jovan - 2 top, 2 bottom
JiaKai aka Ah Pui - tiny bit tooth bottom
Ryan - 2 top and 3 bottom
Malcolm - 4 top &amp; 4 bottom
Rhaines - 2 top, 4 bottom
Kayden - 4 top, 4 bottom
Mikaela - 4 top, 4 bottom
Alexis(Linda's) - 5 top, 4 bottom.
Neve - 2 bottom 27th Dec 07
Cheryl_YH - 4 top, 2 bottom, 2 more coming up on top it seems, 10 Dec 07
Clarie - 4 top, 2 bottom, 04 Dec 07
 
I would like to do a poll if our babies are walking. Tks

re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
 
re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
 
re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
 
re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
 
re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
 
re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
 
re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
 
re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
 
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
9) tub - Sumana - these 2 weeks can walk very fast liao.
 
val, how long did u take to end bfing?

bluelily and dylan's mum: i have a suggestion. we should feed all three of them together and video it down. haha would be quite a scene!
 
re: Walking
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
9) Cocoangel - Kyrell - 12 Dec - Stand unaided, walk unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
 
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
9) tub - Sumana - these 2 weeks can walk very fast liao.
10) Cocoangel - Kyrell - 12 Dec - Stand unaided, walk unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
 
Ber and Mongs
Thanks for the info. I will not squeeze
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Tub
My end to bf-ing came rather abruptly but it worked out well. Took place over a month or so. Here's roughly what happened:

Early Nov
QJ bit me, bleeding, stopped latching on and only pumped

Mid-End Nov
- frequency of pumping dropped from 3x to 2x cos wound could not heal properly
- menses came in end Nov, ss dropped further

Early Dec
- Pumped only once a day
- resumed latching on some nights for last feed in addition to EBM
- Frozen BM supply depleted very fast

Mid Dec
- started introducing FM to supplement EBM

3rd week Dec
- stopped pumping altogether
- latch on some nights if QJ wants

The last time QJ latched on was on 26Dec. I don't feel any engorgement or discomfort at all. Not sure if there's anything if he wants to suckle now.
 
1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
9) tub - Sumana - these 2 weeks can walk very fast liao.
10) Cocoangel - Kyrell - 12 Dec - Stand unaided, walk unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
11) valeriet - QJ - 28 Dec - started walking in early Nov, walking very fast now, almost running already
 
slimz
wow! shang bao lei!
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higgledy
keep your spirits up and take this chance to bond more with bb aidan. Enjoy this time with him
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1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
9) tub - Sumana - these 2 weeks can walk very fast liao.
10) Cocoangel - Kyrell - 12 Dec - Stand unaided, walk unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
11) valeriet - QJ - 28 Dec - started walking in early Nov, walking very fast now, almost running already
12) claire - Yu Ru - 29nov - walking everywhere on her own
 
tub,
hahah it would be a real riot if the 3 of them were filmed together! who knows what nonsense they will pick up from each other! :p
 
wahaha.. tub, dylan's ma, maybe we can try at the next gathering... be prepared to throw food away! wahaha

latest update: now even my mum seem to have difficulty feeding... hai.. maybe these few days hol jr let us feed till scared liao.

slimz u work at kpmg ah... must be v bz? I rem u posted tt photo some time ago.. sr so cute. haha
 
val, so lucky your transition is so smooth. i will feel unwell if i suddenly stop pumping. sometimes i try to drag my pumping time and i'll feel uncomfy and feverish. so scared i'll get mastitis like the last time again. so have to wean off real slowly. i think by the time i totally wean off would be 18 months?! i have another prob also... su doesn't like FM. She'll only take if we spoon feed. urrrgh...
 
jane: i did post? old liaoz cant rem.. i oni rem they sent me the pdf file of the whole magazine, so i cant post.. den now i found out the internet page of the magazine so i post it..hee..

tub/bluelily/dylan's mum: hee.. mabbe can put shirui tgr at the feeding session .. haa.. help to finish up the unwanted food, wont waste =P
coz my mum dun seems to ve any problems feeding her.. haa.. veri obvious from her size..
 
Happy new year eve to all! And happy 2009...
Wishing all a very happy new year and may all mummies' resolutions be met and all todds stay healthy forever and be good!

1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
9) tub - Sumana - these 2 weeks can walk very fast liao.
10) Cocoangel - Kyrell - 12 Dec - Stand unaided, walk unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
11) valeriet - QJ - 28 Dec - started walking in early Nov, walking very fast now, almost running already
12) claire - Yu Ru - 29nov - walking everywhere on her own
12) Shryn - Kayden - 11Dec - stand unaided for few seconds, walk fast &amp; steady with push walker but doesnt want to walk without support
 
mummies,

re: Poll for walking progress
I think some are confused with the purpose of the date for the poll.
It's actually suppose to be their birthday but I put the year wrongly guess some interpreted it as the date we observed the progress. Anyway, date of progress is fine.

I think all the babies are very fast, some can even walk very fast already. actually it's not really a big concern even if they start walking at 15mths or so.
Clarene is quite a lazy baby but these few days, she is showing more interest in walking and gets very excited if she realised she is walking. so funny.
 
bluelily,

yes, hah at the next gathering, the 3 difficult ones should pose together for photo and eating session!! and yep, slimz... pls make sure shirui is there to help wipe off the food. kekekek...
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Poll for walking progress
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1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
9) tub - Sumana - these 2 weeks can walk very fast liao.
10) Cocoangel - Kyrell - 12 Dec - Stand unaided, walk unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
11) valeriet - QJ - 28 Dec - started walking in early Nov, walking very fast now, almost running already
12) claire - Yu Ru - 29nov - walking everywhere on her own
12) Shryn - Kayden - 11Dec - stand unaided for few seconds, walk fast &amp; steady with push walker but doesnt want to walk without support
13) Miorei - Cheryl - 10 Dec - stand unaided for at least 1 minute, walk fast &amp; steady with push walker, can walk unaided for 3-4 steps but v lazy to do so n scared to fall down.
 
Sincere thanks for all mommies for your encouragements. I really appreciate it. Hugzzz~

Poll for walking progress
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1) Mongs- Clarene - 21 Dec 08 - Stand unaided, walk 3-4steps
2) Steffi- ZX - 19 Dec 08 - Cannot stand up by himself, walk abt 10 steps before falling
3) Clarie - 04 Dec 08 - can stand by herself, walk about 5-6 steps
4) Alexis(LindaYeo) - walking steadily at 12.5mths old.
5) botanist-Dylan-18 Dec. Stand unaided, walking unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
6) steffietan - Alexis - 16 Nov 08 - Stands unaided, walks a few steps
7) CSI - Louisa - 08 Dec. Stand unaided, walks with help
8) Slimz - Shirui - 6Dec walk fast n steady can stand up on her own
9) tub - Sumana - these 2 weeks can walk very fast liao.
10) Cocoangel - Kyrell - 12 Dec - Stand unaided, walk unsteadily with help (a few steps only)
11) valeriet - QJ - 28 Dec - started walking in early Nov, walking very fast now, almost running already
12) claire - Yu Ru - 29nov - walking everywhere on her own
12) Shryn - Kayden - 11Dec - stand unaided for few seconds, walk fast &amp; steady with push walker but doesnt want to walk without support
13) Miorei - Cheryl - 10 Dec - stand unaided for at least 1 minute, walk fast &amp; steady with push walker, can walk unaided for 3-4 steps but v lazy to do so n scared to fall down.
14) Aidan - 28 Nov - Walk steady with walker, 3-4 steps unaided

People say girls tend to walk earlier. True??
 
thanks for all the feeding tips on cereals! hmm.. i think will be cheaper to get the rolled oats! cos the nestle gold cereals is pretty expensive; one small pack @$4+ and for my case, feeding 2 babies, it really finishes very fast!! =P

jeelo,
pardon my ignorance but what is cheerios? also for the garden peas, do you need to remove the skin? cos there's a thin skin layer that may be tough for babies to eat right? and do u puree it first? i was wondering if can put some pureed sweet corn?? =P haha... more ideas!
 
slimz, my little ikan bilis sure no fight for shirui... today cereal fight again. hubby and i have decided to try out baby led weaning way of feeding.

dylan's mum &amp; bluelily, wat're ur feeding schedules like?
 
cheerios is like cornflakes except it's multigrain in loop shape. can get it from coldstorage (yellow box) at n\breaKFAST cereals dept. as for the peas, no, i give it straight away after steaming
 



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