(2013/07) July 2013


sapphire,
I'm not strong! I find the nurse checking for dilation super painful! I can tolerate nagging pain better than sharp pain, if you get what I mean... Haha... A big motivation for each time is that hubby will give me the $ for epi to buy jewellery. AND I used the $ before I deliver so if I don't wanna pay for epi myself, I gotta ren! Haha...
 
Orangey,
EDD: 13 July
Gynae: Dr Clifton Chan
Hospital: Mt A
No of preg: #3

Thanks for helping us with the table!
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<table border=1><tr><td>No.</TD><TD>Nick</TD><TD>EDD</TD><TD>Gynae</TD><TD>baby #</TD><TD>Hospital</TD><TD>Gender </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Orangey (jimbok)</TD><TD>06-July-13</TD><TD>A/Prof Han HC</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>KKH</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>E'leen Lau (leenmummy)</TD><TD>13-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>Linda (qq77)</TD><TD>17-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Kowa </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt E </TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>Sapphire05 (sapphire05)</TD><TD>22-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Soong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD></td></tr></table>
 
Hi ladies,

I just went for my check up.. First pregnancy! Today is 6w6d, amazing to hear the heart beat.. Lovely Xmas present for us as we have tried for bb for almost 2yr and even went 3 round of IUI and 1 round of IVF..

Orangey, can I trouble u to update my details. Edd: 23/7/13 gyne: Dr Eunice Chua hospital: TMC no of pregnancy: first
Thank You
 
Hi Orangey, thks for the update. Mine as follows

EDD:1st Jul 2013
Gynae: Dr Benjamin Tham
Hospital: TMC
No. of Pregnancy: #1

Mayb this can be updated in fb as well?
 
Updated List!!

<table border=1><tr><td>No</TD><TD>Nick</TD><TD>EDD</TD><TD>Gynae</TD><TD>baby #</TD><TD>Hospital</TD><TD>Gender </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Joanne (partner)</TD><TD>03-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Chen Chern Yi</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Orangey (jimbok)</TD><TD>06-July-13</TD><TD>A/Prof Han HC</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>KKH</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>elin2201 (elin2201)</TD><TD>11-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Woo Bit Hwa</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>E'leen Lau (leenmummy)</TD><TD>13-July-12</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>Linda (qq77)</TD><TD>17-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Kowa </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt E </TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>babystella (babystella)</TD><TD>19-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>Sapphire05 (sapphire05)</TD><TD>22-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Soong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>Baby MoO (somuchinlove)</TD><TD>23-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Eunice Chua</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD></td></tr></table>
 
Orangey,
I added you, pending admin approval.
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Sapphire05,
I make him pay for it, afterall, I gotta carry the weight for 9months leh... haha... He is nice enough to go along with it la.
 
Thanks E'leen!

I'll still continue to update the table here though cause there may be mummies who dont frequent FB as much so it is not so fair if we move all the posts/topics over to FB. Thanks!
 
Hi Eleen... Ive PM you
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Thanks Orangey.. you are right
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Im not active on FB coz my bosses and colleagues are in my FB! Duhzzzzz
 
Hello Orangey, thanks for the update.

EDD:21st Jul 2013
Gynae: Dr Lawrence Ang
Hospital: TMC
No. of Pregnancy: #1
 
Hi Orangey, please update mine!

EDD: 29 Jul
Gynae: Yvonne Chan
Hospital: TMC
Baby #2

My bb seems to be the youngest here!!
 
Hi Mummies, I'm new here. My bb is 8+weeks now. Went for a check up last week and was able to hear bb's hearbeat. Feeling so excited even though this is my 2nd bb.

Hi Orangey, please update my details:
EDD: 15 Jul
Gynae: Joycelyn Wong
Hospital: TMC
Baby #2.

I would like to join the FB group too. Who do I pm to request?
 
<table border=1><tr><td>No</TD><TD>Nick</TD><TD>EDD</TD><TD>Gynae</TD><TD>baby #</TD><TD>Hospital</TD><TD>Gender </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Joanne (partner)</TD><TD>03-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Chen Chern Yi</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Orangey (jimbok)</TD><TD>06-July-13</TD><TD>A/Prof Han HC</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>KKH</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>elin2201 (elin2201)</TD><TD>11-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Woo Bit Hwa</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>E'leen Lau (leenmummy)</TD><TD>13-July-12</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>JoJo (babyhappie)</TD><TD>15-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Joycelyn Wong </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>Linda (qq77)</TD><TD>17-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Kowa </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt E </TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>babystella (babystella)</TD><TD>19-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>Caryl (1k0r2)</TD><TD>21-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>Sapphire05 (sapphire05)</TD><TD>22-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Soong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>Baby MoO (somuchinlove)</TD><TD>23-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Eunice Chua</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>11</TD><TD>tabbyz (tabbyz)</TD><TD>29-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Chan </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD></td></tr></table>
 
Mummies,
When are you all doing your OSCAR?
Last Fri went for Gynae appt and he said "Aiyah, your 2x nia, your chances is 1:1000 very low risk dont need to do OSCAR" Asked hub and he said, since no.2 already maybe no need to do but I was like ....

Think I'll just do the scan
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Anyone going to KKH for OSCAR scan between 26-28 Dec? Let me know okay? Can meet there!
 
We did OSCAR for #1. I'm wondering if I should do it for #2. My friend made a very good point. She didn't do hers because after discussing it with her hb, they will keep the baby even if he has DS. So not doing OSCAR will spare her the depression during pregnancy should the result be DS positive.

I discussed with my hb and he insisted on doing OSCAR even though we will also keep the baby no matter what. His reason is because he wants to be prepared for it if the baby turns out to have DS.

So no choice, we have to spend that few hundred dollars to do it.
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Am I the only one who haven't seen baby yet?? My gynae appoint is only next Friday. She wanted to see me earlier but I don't see the need to go so early. Waste money to see a small sac. Oops.. Maybe cos it's my second baby, so I'm less enthu. Hahaha..
 
Hi Orangey,
may I ask how much will the OSCAR scan be at KKH?
Because I am doing mine at Thomson soon which has a package for OSCAR and FA scan (spinal cord assessment. It is going to cost 400 plus. I am thinking if KKH will be cheaper and will it be cheaper if I get a referral letter from polyclinic.
 
I will be seeing my gynae this Sat, so will see what she says.

Hi Tabbyz... actually after been to 2 appointments (and going for a 3rd one this Sat), I do find the sessions redundant and waste of momeny. HAhaha... Too practical liao. Guess it's nice to see the sac and have the doctor's confirmation but guess one appointment is good enough.
 
me gg to see my gynae this sat.
i shd see my bb heartbeat.
i suppose the next one will be in my 2nd tri leow bah.
 
Sapphire, it's expensive to see gynae now because package only starts at 20 weeks! Each visit is about $200! I'm trying to minimize first tri visits as much as possible.. Hehehe..
 
Hi Orangey,

Sorry for the late details, I don't come in here much often. This thread is moving so fast!

EDD: 07 July
Gynae: Dr Jocelyn Wong
Hospital: TMC
No of preg: #1

Thanks for helping us with the table!
 
Eleen, that's very worth it!! Is Dr Clifton Chan good? Initially hb wants to change to Mount A cos he hated TMC's parking.. #1 was delivered there and my gynae visits are there too.. But I don't know any gynae from Mount A.. So decided to go back to TMC, although I've changed to another gynae which my friend recommended..
 
Xiuping,
I dont think KKH does FA Scan during OSCAR.
They have several package. I have uploaded the price list for your reference.

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Updated list
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<table border=1><tr><td>No</TD><TD>Nick</TD><TD>EDD</TD><TD>Gynae</TD><TD>baby #</TD><TD>Hospital</TD><TD>Gender </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Joanne (partner)</TD><TD>03-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Chen Chern Yi</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Orangey (jimbok)</TD><TD>06-July-13</TD><TD>A/Prof Han HC</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>KKH</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>Kellie Lim (54drizzles)</TD><TD>07-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Jocelyn Wong </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>elin2201 (elin2201)</TD><TD>11-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Woo Bit Hwa</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>E'leen Lau (leenmummy)</TD><TD>13-July-12</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>JoJo (babyhappie)</TD><TD>15-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Joycelyn Wong </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>Linda (qq77)</TD><TD>17-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Kowa </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt E </TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>babystella (babystella)</TD><TD>19-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>Caryl (1k0r2)</TD><TD>21-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>Sapphire05 (sapphire05)</TD><TD>22-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Soong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>11</TD><TD>Baby MoO (somuchinlove)</TD><TD>23-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Eunice Chua</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>12</TD><TD>tabbyz (tabbyz)</TD><TD>29-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Chan </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD></td></tr></table>
 
My OSCAR scan will be on 28Dec. That will be my 2nd appt with gynae too. I think for most people, first tri visits are usually once a month. Unless if you have issues like bleeding, then will need to have more visits.
 
Hi Orangey, think u miss out my post earlier...
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EDD:1st Jul 2013
Gynae: Dr Benjamin Tham
Hospital: TMC
No. of Pregnancy: #1
 
Evelyn,

Sorry, really miss out your post
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Updated List!!!
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<table border=1><tr><td>No</TD><TD>Nick</TD><TD>EDD</TD><TD>Gynae</TD><TD>baby #</TD><TD>Hospital</TD><TD>Gender </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Evelyn_t (evelyn_t)</TD><TD>01-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Benjamin Tham </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Joanne (partner)</TD><TD>03-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Chen Chern Yi</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>Orangey (jimbok)</TD><TD>06-July-13</TD><TD>A/Prof Han HC</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>KKH</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>Kellie Lim (54drizzles)</TD><TD>07-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Jocelyn Wong </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>elin2201 (elin2201)</TD><TD>11-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Woo Bit Hwa</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>E'leen Lau (leenmummy)</TD><TD>13-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>JoJo (babyhappie)</TD><TD>15-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Joycelyn Wong </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>Linda (qq77)</TD><TD>17-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Kowa </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt E </TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>babystella (babystella)</TD><TD>19-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>Caryl (1k0r2)</TD><TD>21-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>11</TD><TD>Sapphire05 (sapphire05)</TD><TD>22-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Soong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>12</TD><TD>Baby MoO (somuchinlove)</TD><TD>23-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Eunice Chua</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>13</TD><TD>tabbyz (tabbyz)</TD><TD>29-July-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Chan </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </td></tr></table>
 
Updated!

<table border=1><tr><td>No</TD><TD>Nick</TD><TD>EDD</TD><TD>Gynae</TD><TD>baby #</TD><TD>Hospital</TD><TD>Gender </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Evelyn_t (evelyn_t)</TD><TD>01-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Benjamin Tham</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Joanne (partner)</TD><TD>03-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Chen Chern Yi</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>Orangey (jimbok)</TD><TD>06-Jul-13</TD><TD>A/Prof Han HC</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>KKH</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>Kellie Lim (54drizzles)</TD><TD>07-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Jocelyn Wong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>Berries (joyceberries)</TD><TD>09-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>elin2201 (elin2201)</TD><TD>11-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Woo Bit Hwa</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>E'leen Lau (leenmummy)</TD><TD>13-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>JoJo (babyhappie)</TD><TD>15-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Joycelyn Wong</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>Linda (qq77)</TD><TD>17-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Kowa</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt E</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>babystella (babystella)</TD><TD>19-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>11</TD><TD>Caryl (1k0r2)</TD><TD>21-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>12</TD><TD>Sapphire05 (sapphire05)</TD><TD>22-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Soong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>13</TD><TD>Baby MoO (somuchinlove)</TD><TD>23-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Eunice Chua</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>14</TD><TD>tabbyz (tabbyz)</TD><TD>29-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Chan</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD></td></tr></table>
 
Updated!

<table border=1><tr><td>No</TD><TD>Nick</TD><TD>EDD</TD><TD>Gynae</TD><TD>baby #</TD><TD>Hospital</TD><TD>Gender </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Evelyn_t (evelyn_t)</TD><TD>1-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Benjamin Tham</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Joanne (partner)</TD><TD>3-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Chen Chern Yi</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>littledarling (littledarling)</TD><TD>5-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Jocelyn Wong</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>Orangey (jimbok)</TD><TD>6-Jul-13</TD><TD>A/Prof Han HC</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>KKH</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>Kellie Lim (54drizzles)</TD><TD>7-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Jocelyn Wong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>Berries (joyceberries)</TD><TD>9-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>elin2201 (elin2201)</TD><TD>11-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Woo Bit Hwa</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>E'leen Lau (leenmummy)</TD><TD>13-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Clifton Chan</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>JoJo (babyhappie)</TD><TD>15-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Joycelyn Wong</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>Linda (qq77)</TD><TD>17-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Kowa</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Mt E</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>11</TD><TD>anewmummy (anewmummy)</TD><TD>18-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Douglas Ong </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>12</TD><TD>babystella (babystella)</TD><TD>19-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>13</TD><TD>Caryl (1k0r2)</TD><TD>21-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>14</TD><TD>Sapphire05 (sapphire05)</TD><TD>22-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Soong</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>15</TD><TD>Baby MoO (somuchinlove)</TD><TD>23-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Eunice Chua</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD>16</TD><TD>tabbyz (tabbyz)</TD><TD>29-Jul-13</TD><TD>Dr Yvonne Chan</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>TBA </TD></TR><TR><TD></td></tr></table>
 
Maybe we will meet in hosptial for those EDD is near.. whose know maybe we are in the same ward.. haahaha
 
Felt so nausea just now and threw up a portion of my bfast
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I never used to throw up my bfast!! Now, I feel so tired~~~~~
 
hi ladies, how is morning sickness? My appointment with my gynae is this sat. The wait is forever! I will be going to the gleneagles. No gleneagles mummy here?
 


puking become my daily activity... at least twice aday... i cant have any intake for plain water. now i m taking ribena drink for replace plain water ;( i can't take milo too...
 

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