(2008/01) Jan 2008 MTBs
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jess__thomas
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pixie
since u r in the IT dept rite... ask u ah.. does surfing web and retrenchment works hand in hand? heheeee .. asking a stupid qs...
since u r in the IT dept rite... ask u ah.. does surfing web and retrenchment works hand in hand? heheeee .. asking a stupid qs...
jess__thomas
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alamak...
i am in great danger!!!
i am in great danger!!!
jess__thomas
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izit? okiez.. my company is big la.. but the mgmt always do weird stuff.... so who knws.. keke...
angelwind
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cham liao
i recession still buy coach bag
my hb sure scold me one
at most i tell him i buy fake ahahhaha, he doesnt cares about girly fashion anyway
jess
harnor, sometimes mgmt weird weird one
my company oredi 3 kena axed liao leh...more on the way...haiz
mei, any topic of the day?
i recession still buy coach bag
my hb sure scold me one
at most i tell him i buy fake ahahhaha, he doesnt cares about girly fashion anyway
jess
harnor, sometimes mgmt weird weird one
my company oredi 3 kena axed liao leh...more on the way...haiz
mei, any topic of the day?
angelwind
Active Member
kam
who doesnt surf net
CEO oso surf net mah
my qn back to you: if company is feeling the pinch of recession, isnt the fault of poor management? shouldn't they be first to go since they do not perfom/manage the departments well?
sadly, reality sux. sacrificial lambs like us are the first to go. management always gets immunity
who doesnt surf net
CEO oso surf net mah
my qn back to you: if company is feeling the pinch of recession, isnt the fault of poor management? shouldn't they be first to go since they do not perfom/manage the departments well?
sadly, reality sux. sacrificial lambs like us are the first to go. management always gets immunity
blessed_serene
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actually if the mgt is not performing they will hv to go as well. Imagine if you need to axe 10 staff for 1 management. Who will do the work then?
babyshannon
Active Member
Yvonne,
I send my gal to Julia Gabriel playnest. She enjoyed the class very much. Will continue to send her to the playclub at east coast parkway when she reaches 18mths since its only 5 min drive from our hse.
I send my gal to Julia Gabriel playnest. She enjoyed the class very much. Will continue to send her to the playclub at east coast parkway when she reaches 18mths since its only 5 min drive from our hse.
Pixie,
Yes, everyone surfs net. Different is how much time spent on surfing, and if that's affecting the job performance. Some are really good in multitasking, so doing they job well and on time and surfing at the same time with no problem.
Haha, I am the one who gets immunity to retrenchment
Yes, everyone surfs net. Different is how much time spent on surfing, and if that's affecting the job performance. Some are really good in multitasking, so doing they job well and on time and surfing at the same time with no problem.
Haha, I am the one who gets immunity to retrenchment
Serene,
i agree but hor sometimes higher management also play politics among themselves. Afterall is up to the MD/GM discretion to decide who to go ya...my company got force ranking system so if performance is ranked 3=just met expectation & you'll be in danger zone = will be consider being retrenched/kenna warning letter from HR to improve current work performance (grace period 3 to 6 months depends) otherwise if rec'd next letter from HR 6mths later meaning asking u to go = terminated! Very stress man!
i agree but hor sometimes higher management also play politics among themselves. Afterall is up to the MD/GM discretion to decide who to go ya...my company got force ranking system so if performance is ranked 3=just met expectation & you'll be in danger zone = will be consider being retrenched/kenna warning letter from HR to improve current work performance (grace period 3 to 6 months depends) otherwise if rec'd next letter from HR 6mths later meaning asking u to go = terminated! Very stress man!
jess__thomas
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i think the bottom line is whether our boss like us anot. if they like us, we are safe.... if not, then like pixie says.. we become the lambs lor..... 'meh.... meh....'... hahahahaaaa
blessed_serene
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steph,
are you working in 3M, i know 3M have such policy. For us ranking is more for dept performance and also when comes to salary increment/bonus payout at least we know how to do the distribution. And having ranking 3 cannot mean anything if the dept only have 3 person. So my feel is that we shld look at individual and see how we can manage and improve each staff
are you working in 3M, i know 3M have such policy. For us ranking is more for dept performance and also when comes to salary increment/bonus payout at least we know how to do the distribution. And having ranking 3 cannot mean anything if the dept only have 3 person. So my feel is that we shld look at individual and see how we can manage and improve each staff
Jess,
my company alot of boss's pets around Few yrs ago, my seniors (now all left co.) warned me, "If u want to beat the dog, must look at the master" & "Otherwise, be near to GOD = boss" u get what i mean?
Coming June, there will be another retrenchment if corporate not doing well.
my current boss (male) informed me that i will be transfer to other dept, taking on new job scope & reporting to new boss (female) when i return from my maternity leave! So sian...
my company alot of boss's pets around
Few yrs ago, my seniors (now all left co.) warned me, "If u want to beat the dog, must look at the master" & "Otherwise, be near to GOD = boss" u get what i mean? Coming June, there will be another retrenchment if corporate not doing well.
my current boss (male) informed me that i will be transfer to other dept, taking on new job scope & reporting to new boss (female) when i return from my maternity leave! So sian...
Mei
Whichever date I'm also ok. Perhaps pick the date that majority can make it? Btw, how come u no call me ah? Was waiting for your call leh
enemum
HK people have this saying in Chinese loosely translated as "haven't reach dimpling festival, don't keep ur winter clothes yet!" meaning weather can fluctuate cold n hot. Just the week before mei came it was fairly hot around 20-24, then this week suddenly got cold wind from south china (Guangzhou), temp is around 17-20 again. So best to bring jacket along
Yvonne
Aiyah! Cannot see ur chubby boyboy! I also dunno when we are going to zoo. Wat time u going on 9th?
Whichever date I'm also ok. Perhaps pick the date that majority can make it? Btw, how come u no call me ah? Was waiting for your call leh
enemum
HK people have this saying in Chinese loosely translated as "haven't reach dimpling festival, don't keep ur winter clothes yet!" meaning weather can fluctuate cold n hot. Just the week before mei came it was fairly hot around 20-24, then this week suddenly got cold wind from south china (Guangzhou), temp is around 17-20 again. So best to bring jacket along
Yvonne
Aiyah! Cannot see ur chubby boyboy! I also dunno when we are going to zoo. Wat time u going on 9th?
jess__thomas
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pixie...
ur dept quite small ya? like tat then no choice. my dept i think got 6 of us.... i am the only one in 20s.... the rest all in 40s or 50s....
ur dept quite small ya? like tat then no choice. my dept i think got 6 of us.... i am the only one in 20s.... the rest all in 40s or 50s....
jess__thomas
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Steph
i think reporting to female boss is the most sianz..... i prefer male boss.
i think reporting to female boss is the most sianz..... i prefer male boss.
Mei
Alamak, it's ok lah. If ur busy with hb bday, pls go ahead, no need to plan for the gathering lah
put it caps some more...!
seriously if all mommies busy with other plans, no need to meet lah, I just thot it'll be fun only. The gathering is not diedie must have one lah!
anyway, most also can't confirm yet.
Alamak, it's ok lah. If ur busy with hb bday, pls go ahead, no need to plan for the gathering lah
seriously if all mommies busy with other plans, no need to meet lah, I just thot it'll be fun only. The gathering is not diedie must have one lah!
pixie,
Yes, I am at top management. I have got instruction that no retrechment for my company and we will still have perfomance bonus which will be announced this month So all my staff are happy and relieved! At our company, we comply to certain IT security policy and practice. Some websites are blocked, etc. But I don't limit my staff when they surf net for personal matters (as I do surf for SMF and check e-mails). But everyone understands that their job perfomance shouldn't be affected and what's the priorities are. We are all responsible adults, aren't we? Monitoring how and what staff do is really not good, meaning you don't trust your staff, then how to have a good working relationship?
Yes, I am at top management. I have got instruction that no retrechment for my company and we will still have perfomance bonus which will be announced this month
So all my staff are happy and relieved! At our company, we comply to certain IT security policy and practice. Some websites are blocked, etc. But I don't limit my staff when they surf net for personal matters (as I do surf for SMF and check e-mails). But everyone understands that their job perfomance shouldn't be affected and what's the priorities are. We are all responsible adults, aren't we? Monitoring how and what staff do is really not good, meaning you don't trust your staff, then how to have a good working relationship?
angelwind
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topic for the day:
what will you do if you get retrenched?
-describe immediate reactions
i will be sad and happy at the same time. sad that i cannot work in this company, and no $$ to take...and sad that it means i didnt perform well.
Happy coz i can spend some time with my boy since no work, till i find new job
-describe measures you will take to cut costs
1.bring my boy home, then can dun give my MIL so much $$. then we dont have to travel back n forth Jurong and SK, then save petrol $$
2.dont hire the part time cleaner liao
3.stop drinking so much bubble tea
4.do more milkbags business
5.cook at home. save $$ on ta bao
what will you do if you get retrenched?
-describe immediate reactions
i will be sad and happy at the same time. sad that i cannot work in this company, and no $$ to take...and sad that it means i didnt perform well.
Happy coz i can spend some time with my boy since no work, till i find new job
-describe measures you will take to cut costs
1.bring my boy home, then can dun give my MIL so much $$. then we dont have to travel back n forth Jurong and SK, then save petrol $$
2.dont hire the part time cleaner liao
3.stop drinking so much bubble tea
4.do more milkbags business
5.cook at home. save $$ on ta bao
jess__thomas
New Member
topic for the day:
-what will you do if you get retrenched?
i will be a SAHM
-describe immediate reactions
sad to leave my close buddy at work.
-describe measures you will take to cut costs
sell of the car???
-what will you do if you get retrenched?
i will be a SAHM
-describe immediate reactions
sad to leave my close buddy at work.
-describe measures you will take to cut costs
sell of the car???
Serene,
nope i dun work in 3M. Mine is MNC co.
Our ranking is for individual performance, we got to submit work objectives & individual development plan online every quarter. This info will be used for salary increment/bonus payout. Company dun really care how many staff each dept have, as long as your immediate boss ranked u 3 & below then bye bye to your career liow! Company practise/followed many policies but only for show niah! Sad hor...i wonder how i survived my past 6yrs!
nope i dun work in 3M. Mine is MNC co.
Our ranking is for individual performance, we got to submit work objectives & individual development plan online every quarter. This info will be used for salary increment/bonus payout. Company dun really care how many staff each dept have, as long as your immediate boss ranked u 3 & below then bye bye to your career liow! Company practise/followed many policies but only for show niah! Sad hor...i wonder how i survived my past 6yrs!
pixie,
aiyoh, me not high flyer lah. Small company and stat board some more. The title is grand only, but $$$ not much :-(
All my staff very faithful one. Turn over rate very very low. I am good boss mah No lah, it's more because it's stat board, so job is secured.
Mei,
Thanks for the link! Yes, hubby is very keen to go. Initially wanted to go for the Malaysia F1, but don't feel like travel. So now eyeing Singapore F1 lor.
aiyoh, me not high flyer lah. Small company and stat board some more. The title is grand only, but $$$ not much :-(
All my staff very faithful one. Turn over rate very very low. I am good boss mah
No lah, it's more because it's stat board, so job is secured. Mei,
Thanks for the link! Yes, hubby is very keen to go. Initially wanted to go for the Malaysia F1, but don't feel like travel. So now eyeing Singapore F1 lor.
<font color="ff0000">GATHERING WITH MYLIFE and Little Rylee!</font>
Date: 11th Apr Sat
Venue: Go Go Bambini http://www.gogobambini.com/promotions
Time: 3-5pm.
Child 2-11 yrs = S$15 for 2 hrs play (unlimited for wkday)
Child <2 = S$5 unlimited play
Adult = Free (finally!! we are free!!)
<font color="0000ff">Mummies below, please confirm your attendance</font>:
01) mylife - 10th/11th ok. Anytime 1pm-8pm.
02) valencia - weekend (my jan08 contact list no your contact. can u pm me details?)
03) luvv - 10th ok
04) grumpus - 10th/11th ok
05) angelsky - depending on which days
06) blessed serene - 10th ok. 11th after 1pm ok.
07) VioletIce - Saturdays - No preference in timing
08) mei - tbc
09) cheryl - 10th/11th ok. 12pm or 1pm
10) dorothoy - 11th ok. 12pm or 1pm
11) icy - tbc
13) babynikkiong - 10th/11th ok
14) kitsune - 10th ok after 3pm.
15) sg_audrey - 10/11th ok. (i don't have your contact details in Jan08 contact list. can you pm me details? tks)
16) elmo_78 - 10/11th ok
17) mom2nat - 10th tbc
18) mcfluffy - tbc
19) godsent - tbc
20) QQ - 10th ok. 11th ok
Date: 11th Apr Sat
Venue: Go Go Bambini http://www.gogobambini.com/promotions
Time: 3-5pm.
Child 2-11 yrs = S$15 for 2 hrs play (unlimited for wkday)
Child <2 = S$5 unlimited play
Adult = Free (finally!! we are free!!)
<font color="0000ff">Mummies below, please confirm your attendance</font>:
01) mylife - 10th/11th ok. Anytime 1pm-8pm.
02) valencia - weekend (my jan08 contact list no your contact. can u pm me details?)
03) luvv - 10th ok
04) grumpus - 10th/11th ok
05) angelsky - depending on which days
06) blessed serene - 10th ok. 11th after 1pm ok.
07) VioletIce - Saturdays - No preference in timing
08) mei - tbc
09) cheryl - 10th/11th ok. 12pm or 1pm
10) dorothoy - 11th ok. 12pm or 1pm
11) icy - tbc
13) babynikkiong - 10th/11th ok
14) kitsune - 10th ok after 3pm.
15) sg_audrey - 10/11th ok. (i don't have your contact details in Jan08 contact list. can you pm me details? tks)
16) elmo_78 - 10/11th ok
17) mom2nat - 10th tbc
18) mcfluffy - tbc
19) godsent - tbc
20) QQ - 10th ok. 11th ok
blessed_serene
New Member
steph,
wow, your HR must be super busy man. Doing work objective & individual development qtrly can be very tiring. Can't imagine if I have to submit such plan every 3 months
I hv always work with a female boss so I got used to it. So far, my boss has been very nice and supportive keep asking me to go for #2.
wow, your HR must be super busy man. Doing work objective & individual development qtrly can be very tiring. Can't imagine if I have to submit such plan every 3 months
I hv always work with a female boss so I got used to it. So far, my boss has been very nice and supportive keep asking me to go for #2.
pixie,
problem is the 'other' dept (currently only 4 persons incl boss + me = 5 pax) dealing with purchasing & i am doing marketing leh...so job scope so much diff & then GM (not my immediate boss) told me that i will not be doing purchasing matters but into other developments?? still not sure what is my new designation & job responsibilities. I feel like a ball being kicked around!
problem is the 'other' dept (currently only 4 persons incl boss + me = 5 pax) dealing with purchasing & i am doing marketing leh...so job scope so much diff & then GM (not my immediate boss) told me that i will not be doing purchasing matters but into other developments?? still not sure what is my new designation & job responsibilities. I feel like a ball being kicked around!
Serene,
my HR director just quit in Jan09. Last month, another HR exe (looking after our entity acct) kenna retrenched!! She was so shocked & sad. Anyway, our HR dun monitor our performance de...since it's online submission, corporate will monitor the system but still up to the immediate boss to grade/rank u. I hate the stupid system cos stressful thinking abt it. So, for my 1st & 2nd quarter this yr will be NIL cos on ML mah = no performance loh.
my HR director just quit in Jan09. Last month, another HR exe (looking after our entity acct) kenna retrenched!! She was so shocked & sad. Anyway, our HR dun monitor our performance de...since it's online submission, corporate will monitor the system but still up to the immediate boss to grade/rank u. I hate the stupid system cos stressful thinking abt it. So, for my 1st & 2nd quarter this yr will be NIL cos on ML mah = no performance loh.
kitsune_sg
Active Member
Mylvera, want to be super relax SAHM also cannot. This morning RaeAnne woke up at 6am running a fever of 39.9!?! She was fine last night. Don't know what happened. Luckily, hubby still around and today his lessons are in the afternoon. So he fed 'neurofen' while I kept sponging her. She don't want daddy to carry when she's sick, keep trying to burrow onto my stomach and chest. Refused to drink milk also. Luckily the neurofen worked so around 9am, brought her to see PD. PD checked her throat and she said a bit red, should be URTI and asked if she has any cough or cold but don't have leh.
Brought her back to ILs place cos I got no time to cook her porridge this morning, fed paracetemol at 1030am. Next dose should be 6 hours later or 4 hours later depending on whether temp is higher than 38.5. Left ILs place so that I can rest at home.
Thanks for the Woody tip. Went to toilet and no more 'spotting?' so feel better. hpt lines seem a bit darker according to hubby so feel more reassured.
Kam, I usually read blogspot cos that's the one linked to my blog but yesterday, I got your multiply updates from my yahoo email so I went in to read. I was surprised when you talk about retrenchment cos I remember you were working in a stat board. Then I saw your clarifications, ya lar, I used to work in two stat boards. If stat board got to retrench then it's super 'jia lat' liao. No lar, govt practice is always cut pay but not cut jobs unless it's golden handshakes for those obsolete management. Hee.
Brought her back to ILs place cos I got no time to cook her porridge this morning, fed paracetemol at 1030am. Next dose should be 6 hours later or 4 hours later depending on whether temp is higher than 38.5. Left ILs place so that I can rest at home.
Thanks for the Woody tip. Went to toilet and no more 'spotting?' so feel better. hpt lines seem a bit darker according to hubby so feel more reassured.
Kam, I usually read blogspot cos that's the one linked to my blog but yesterday, I got your multiply updates from my yahoo email so I went in to read. I was surprised when you talk about retrenchment cos I remember you were working in a stat board. Then I saw your clarifications, ya lar, I used to work in two stat boards. If stat board got to retrench then it's super 'jia lat' liao. No lar, govt practice is always cut pay but not cut jobs unless it's golden handshakes for those obsolete management. Hee.