(2006/12) December 2006 MTBs

bobianah, try the steam apple method to see if can cut down her phelgm? Steam apple for 15 min (?) until apple is soft. Then let her drink the juice that came out.
 


QSG,
the cake is super wonderful & nice leh. wow u are also a good baker. It looks like purchase from cake shop one.

bloom,
the steam apple can bb without pblm drink it? seems nice leh. cos no artifical like we buy from outside lar.

kimi,
wow baby can drink orange juice meh? wont hv phelgm meh?
 
QSG!!
Happy Birthday Evee!!
Wow! Your cake looks really pro! You can consider selling them!! Did you let Evee eat the cake? Evee also has some allergies rt? I'm thinking of baking a eggless/dairy-free cake for JT's birthday... have been looking at the internet for recipes... but somehow I think it'll turn out awful leh....no eggs and dairy.. haiyo...

Bloom
Err... cardbox stable meh? Your Kate very active climb here and there one leh.... My auntie just passed me an old safety gate which she used to put to prevent her dog from going to the kitchen. Now no more dog liao so she pass to me. I was thinking of putting that in IL's place.. but I haven't asked them if they are ok to let me put the gate or not lah... if they dun wan me to put the gate there, or they want a new one (cos MIL got stg against dogs!), then I pass this old one to you lah... I check with them this thur then let you know.
I dun think JT is trying to be independent. She's just trying to be KPO... putting the spoon in her mouth is stg new, so very fun mah... but after abt 10 spoons, the novelty wore off liao, now even self feeding also won't open mouth. Yah I think her gums are really painful, the 4 teeth can almost be seen liao... but dunno when it'll finally come out leh.. last nite from 12-4am, she was waking up every 1hr crying... alamak at this rate I will be a walking zombie very soon liao.... I dare not even think that she will eat with a vengence... as long as she will eat like a normal baby, I'll be happy as a lark liao...

Kimi
Hahaha... yah lor the rest all read our grieviences until sian liao... why these 2 girls so problematic one?? Yah JT really got a lot of allergies.. This morning let her try a little bit of egg yolk, 15min later, her face and neck got hives liao.. sigh... so now her allergies list are dairy, egg, fish (slight allergy for threadfin but I still give her a bit), silver fish... hmm I think JT is better off being a vegetarian lah...but she doesn't like beans leh.... haiyo... luckily she still can eat pork and beef....
I saw organic bb yoghurt at Centrepoint Coldstorage... but real ex... 4 tubs for $10! But if mandy eats tat w/o fuss, then I think that's priceless!

Bobianah
AIyo... you must take care also.... I think the apples steam 5-10min can liao if you cut them up in cubes 1st.
 
QSG
Happy 1st BD to Evee. Wow...ur cake so pretty. U spent so much effort to decorate. Mine will be bake, plop on the plate n serve type
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Bobianah
What cough mixture hv u been given for her cough? My Dr precribed Prospan for E's cough. Seems to work. But then I also put him back on his Eu Yan Sang Bo Yin Dan. So dunno which one really did the trick. U know he was on Bo Yin Dan till abt 8 mths n never fell sick once even tho his daddy caught colds quite frequently. After I stopped, he kena fake measles lah, then cold n cough lah. I was quite anti chinese meds for bb's but now I swear by it! Only thing is it's quite Ex.

Bloom
Steam apples reduces phlegm meh?

Dora
U sure Pediasure not suitable for JT. It's 100% vege based wor? Ya ya...when E's upper teeth were coming out he was also waking up every hr at nite crying. V poor thing...but poor us mummy also. But usually the discomfort for E last 1-2 wks nia. He now has 6 teeth n 2 more coming out liao. So far so good for the last 2 teeth (last 2 b4 molars anyway
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). No crying at nite, phew! Hope JT's n ur suffering will end soon.
 
QSG!!!! HAppy 1st Birthday to Evee!!
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Evee is the first bb in our thread to celebrate 1st year birthday!! now Evee is toddler!
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her cake is so sweet looking!!!

bloom,

Kate wil turn One this thur!!! I remember cos my mum's birthday is same as kate!
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Happy advance 1st Birthday to Kate!!
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Dora/Kimi,

I have given up on bottle feeding to Ivan.Tink he know he prefer nipple to bottles teats.I have bought the Mag mag spout all 3 steps yet to try the one with straw though.I have not find a job but cos hubby initially gave me 1 year SAHM period mah...but now coming to an end yet he hasnt said anyting
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i still spoon feed him water lor.wat to do.some how kinda regret shd have gave him bottle all the way.he did take bottle til 5mth plus then i lazy to pump( if got helper then i dun mind to pump lah) now i try to latch him lesser..cos i can feel he is rather addicted...i am going to stop bf next mth...bt havent decide FM or full cream/fresh milk...

jen,

There are nice cakes from Pine Gardens,Ecreative cakes.cake avenue,room for desserts.
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you having Selinna's birthday celebration on actual day? i cant join
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staying at hotels for ivan's birthday
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Dora
I can understand how u feel when JT refuse solid. There are days when Darren totally refuse solid too. However, Darren eat a balanced meal over a weekly basis. I know u have experiment with a lot of food but have u intro soft rice? Darren refuse to eat porridge when he was about 9 months, so i serve him soft rice (steam rice) and he has been taking it since then. He doesnt like anything mushy,i.e. porridge / cereal. If JT has been taking biscuit, i am sure she can chew on soft rice. sometimes bb are more particular about the texture and taste of food than we can imagine. Darren will open his mouth at meal time. if he like it, he can eat half a bowl of soft rice. if he doesnt like, he eat only a few mouthful.

Hope JT pick up on her food intake soon.

Choo
I dont think we get to use whether to give our bb FM/fresh milk.
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they are the boss. I have intro at least 4 brands of FM to Darren but he has refused all. My PD also ask me to give fresh milk. I will definitely do that once Darren reach 1 yo. as long as he is willing to drink, i dont care whether he take FM/fresh milk. But i will ensure that his meals are well balanced.

I have been latching Darren since 3 months and now he absolutely refuse bottle/FM. sign. He has no problem drinking water from sipply cup / direct from cup coz he has been doing that since 5+months. Even if darren accept fresh milk, my main problem is wat to give him during his mid nite feed coz he only wan bf. tried giving him bottle/sippy cup but he push away and yell.
 
Kimi
May i know how long does it take you to spoon feed 210ml of FM to Mandy? i tried 20ml with darren and it feels like eternity.

Since Mandy is on food strike and she doesnt take much milk, she wont wake up for nite feed? if yes, you spoon feed in the middle of the nite too?
 
jen, i guess so... since its just like apple juice right? but then i am too lazy to steam for kate..just cut for her ahhaha

dora, wana try teething gel to ease her comfort? its ok u keep the gate.. actually i dont mind getting a real gate..but i just like DIY... already thinking of drawings on it..ahahha...think only.. have not done anything yet! like waht u say, not sure if kate will tear it down or climb on it! so means jt canot take the MMR next yr?

Lil..yes..rem reading it from some other posting in this forum... (premmie thread i tink)

bobianah, where did u stay? i dont mind getting though hb keep nagging me to change to Gain IQ/Nan 3 cos he cannot tahan the stink poo poo!

choo, yes thank you! this thur kate will be 1!!!!!
 
QSG,
wow! wat a pretty cake! u're really skilled! i wonder y was baking e cake 4 her a risk! hahahaha.. ppl like me who only can bake UFO hor, den called a risk... or rather it's doomed to failure!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY EVEE!
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jen,
i dunno bt e phlegm but my mum kept nagging me 2 let her drink orange juice. i din cos i tink it's too sweet n acidic n sour. i'm only baking e fish w a bit o orange juice 4 taste n e vit c.

dora,
hahahahahaha..... i'm so glad i haf u! or else i'd tink mandy is a freak!!! at least there's u to understand wat i'm going thru!
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can i noe e brand o e organic yoghurt? i've searched thru causeway pt cold storage 4 yoghurt but can't find. u noe tt place so well, is there bb yoghurt there besides yoplait?

dora, lil,
how do u poach e fish? dun need oil rite? just milk har? teach me leh. i tink i shld tink up a wk's menu in advance since her meat intake has increased! i dun wanna b outta stock! den i dunno wat she'd eat liao! *shudder*

dora,
lidat hor, everytime our gers haf teething, they'd haf food strike too??? n nt gain wt??? *faint*
bobianah,
ai-yo, hannah so poor ting ar? cough until vomit? n now u n hubby sick too? hope u all get well quick quick.. so many events lined up end o e yr!!!

bloom,
same as JT lah... i let her hold e spoon n stand behind her to direct to her mouth as a last resort. she'd eat a few more mouthful den feels 'cheated' again n SWEEP everyting away.. hahahaha... n yap, like JT, if i put e bowl near her, she wld sink her free hand into e food... *faint*

karen,
erm, like i mentioned b4 both mummy n bb r well trained in spoonfeeding/being spoonfed milk. it takes a lot o skill, patience n tolerance. tolerance cos u can expect everyting ard u n bb 2 get sticky cos o e milk... after e feeding i hafta rinse everyting she touched, wipe e table, floor n bb chair w soapy water... now she can drink bt 170ml each time. takes only half an hr or so... used to take 1.5hr for 80ml when i 1st started. like i said, we're well trained.
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but it's nt like i'm v proud o it lah... i hope nobody follows in my footstep!
 
hi mummies,

how time flies.. our bbs turning 1 soon.. last year tis time, we came here every morning to report our strenght and get excited when mummies start to pop. haha.. now we are planning our bbs 1st birthday celebration. tis sat will b celebrating jav 1st birthday. mi can feel the excitement flow all over my body. Hope everyting turn out smoothly.

hi QSG,
Happy 1st Birthday to Evee : )
 
me so busying working on the new website and album for tx.... hardly have any time to go online.

bloom
oic. tot, my 'gd frenz' siao liao, causing me very 'ruan' and uncomfortable. hai... am pumping twice per day now and really felt
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liao cos my bf career is ending soon. maybe tough, i'm tired but I do enjoy pumping ebm 9maybe addicted) or giving ebm to tx. sob....

hmm..haa tx when at hm only babble and babble, still ok not so noisy.


QSG
wow...so envy, u want how to bake the so nice pinky cake for Evee...even the alpha letter are quite a well cut. I myself know how to eat only. Happy belated birthday to Evee....

dora
why appples must steam, better taste??? i only scrape apple for tx to eat.
 
QSG,
Happy birthday Evee! Your cake looks professional... was reading for the name of the cake shop when I realised it was baked by you... very well done...*pat on the back*

DORA, KIMI.....
Same same... i am experiencing the same thing as you ladies are. Nat has been rejecting her porridge, prefers snacks like biscuits and cheese. She takes max of 5 spoons of porridge, hates it, pushes it... makes a mess, i end up cleaning up... dinner time is war time...Got to sing, cajole and do lots just to push one more spoon into her mouth. Her father also says she may have enuf le but I disagree, 'HOW CAN 5 SPOONS BE ENUF WHEN SHE NORMALLY EATS TWO BOWLS?' fish porridge, dun want. tomato base pasta, dun want. everything dun want. I ended up putting cheese on top of the porridge (trying hard to disguise it), she was quick lah, took the cheese part nia and left the porridge on the spoon. I was SHOCKED! She is smarter than her mother lor. Any solutions, please share!
 
Kimi
To poach fish, I just boil the fish in some full cream UHT milk. Taste better then plain steaming or boiling. Then for salmon I sometimes shallow fry in some olive oil. Again taste better n fishy smell less obvious.

Bloom
Advanced Happy 1st BD wishes to Kate. E still long way to go yet...only coming to 11 mths nia.
 
afcai, everything is normal! haha

Lil, thanks
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nevermind , means u got 1 more month to plan E's birthday.. eheheh.. i am so busy with work and everythign else i did not plan anything leh..

btw, any mommies want to try out brewsters yeast? i bought one pack open liao... it taste yucky!... take out half a pack so got half a pack left (abt 100g) so whoever that is adventurous enuf can get it from me.... kimi, dora, think the gals will like this new stuff? :p
 
tan sl,
welcome to e club! hahaha.. but maybe 4 u, it's short term. perhaps she just doesn't like mushy stuff anymore? mandy has food strikes on n off one so i'm q used to it. just tt now i spend a substantial amt o time just preparing her food n feeding her.. make her more solid foods lor. no choice, gotta try n try... ur hubby's like mine! he firmly believes tt bbs wld eat enof 4 them 2 grow.. but i can't accept tt a few mouthfuls o porridge is sufficent for lunch n dinner.... n she din grow much!

lil,
thx 4 e info. will try it. dun wanna bake all e time.
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karen,
4got 2 reply u. mandy doesn't wake up 4 nite feedings even when she din eat much during e day. she loves sleeping, much more than eating i guess! hahaha... but if e intake 4 e day is v v low, i'll stuff her w bisuit/bread or tings she eats 4 her last feed. if she wakes i'd most prob hafta spoonfeed her milk lor.. wat 2 do... just dunno if she'd sleep again.. thk gdness i haven't needed 2 do tt yet!
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Lil

I checked out Abbott website liao... Pediasure contains some milk derived proteins, so not suitable for kids with milk allergy
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Wah E has so many teeth liao ah??! Eh... my JT still has a longer way to go ok.... she'll only be 10.5 mth officially tomorrow!!

Kimi
Kekeke... I also tot JT is a freak... actually I still think she is lah... isn't eating a natural instinct?? How can she starve herself such tat she has 0 wt gain?? I still dun understand... hehehe I think we just happen to have freak babies :p yah yah yah... the sweeping things off the hi-chair.. that really gets on my nerves!!

Eh.. you sound as tho I work in coldstorage! :p No lah causeway pt coldstorage dun have so high class stuff....they used to have the yoplait bb yoghurt tho...but I dun think they have anymore bb yoghurt.. tomorrow after work I go help you look again... I saw the organic bb yoghurt at CENTREpoint (the orchard one hor!)coldstorage. Erm... dunno wat's the brand, I just happened to see it but din really check out the brand cos JT can't eat it anyway :p
But JT was better yesterday, she took 45min to finish 1 bowl of porridge for both lunch and dinner...and she opened her mouth w/o playing for the intial 5min!!! wah like striking toto like tat... and she only wake up once at nite... dunno if her teeth is finally coming out!


Karen
Alamak... Darren also has the same prob?? I tot boys always eat a lot one :p Maybe I should try the soft rice... but if I give her thick porridge, she'll take forever to swallow... so if I give her rice, dunno if it will be worse?? Well... guess I just have to try!!

Tan SL
Oh dear!! I dun think I want to welcome anyone to our club tho'! But I guess yours is prob a short term thing... cos Nat can actually eat 2 BOWLS??!! I dun think JT and Mandy came anything close to that ever!! And both JT and Mandy has had this problem for the longest time liao... maybe you can try soft rice as suggested by Karen... Nat could really have gotten sick of her usual mushy stuff.

Afcai
No lah.. cos tat time JT got phobia of spoon mah, so everything must be in cube form... so I steam the apple to make it softer... scrap is ok one..
 
kimi/dora/Tan_SL
our bb taste bud is developing. did u or yr caregiver give something sweet to yr gar? i always told my mum never give sweet thing or place soy sauce etc to tx's porriage loh. tx loves to makan porrigage instead of milk. wkend got to force her milk. how's yr gar milk intake?
 
afcai,
i'm mandy's caregiver lor. i'm v strict bt food. nv give her anyting w seaoning b4. cept e biscuit n bread. sigh... i waited 4 e longest time 2 gif her biscuit cos it contains seasoning but i wanted 2 train her 2 self feed. all e fruits i tried were too soft or slippery... i'm banning biscuit n saving them 4 outings.

dora,
thx! i bot e yoghurt liao. fr my lousy sun plaza NTUC wor! hubby feeding her now. really ex! e cashier kept reminding me it's $10+ cos she said most ppl din want it when they heard e price! hahahaha...

tan sl,
yeah... mandy n JT has had food strikes since looooooooong ago...
 
Dora, Kimi,
I sure hope it is a short term thing... it has been going on for a week plus liao... heartache to see the food I cook for her... with tlc somemore... end up all in my tummy... sigh..i try to have my dinner with her and she seems to eye on my food... i guess you are all right... her taste buds are developing and sense of smell is prob more keen...my mil says that it is ok to let her eat our food.. as in the adults' food but i am just not comfortable with all those seasonings and great taste. but when hubby tasted nat's food... he told me no wonder she doesn't want to finish cos IT IS TASTELESS! have been using sweet corn, dried scallops and yin yu to add taste to her food... but to no avail. then realise that she eats in installments. finishes her usual two bowls in a three hour stretch. how can? aiyo... bad eating habits. yesterday didn't even touch the second and third installment. that gal is worrying me with her eating habits.

afcai,
no, my mummy knows i am very ngiao, doesn't feed nat without my knowledge. all that nat eats is within my control...nat takes abt 150ml or takes avocado/ yogurt every three hourly. she takes many small portions.
 
yesterday, today newspaper got this small article.
it mentioned abt being a mother and homemaker is more boring than other jobs. while working mothers enjoy the heart thumping of tedious excitement task every moment of our professional lives. but the most impt being a mother and homemaker is that no job can complete with the satisfaction of moulding and guiding a child.

so being a SAHM mothers not easy leh...

hi kimi,
oic. yoghurt or fruits isn't it sweet? maybe yr bb need sometimes to get use to porriage taste. at first, tx also find porriage funny but then with the fish added into it, it got taste and she loves it. but if it plain porriage, she won't take it too.

same same, seen that u mentioned that mandy prefer slp more than eating. tx also like that. she only gains 0.1kg from her 9mth - 11mth only.
 
Hi Tan_sl,
same thinking, my mum also said me ngiao. this also cannot that also cannot.so she told me very difficult to take care of yr bb loh. ai-yo, i told her this is healthy, I dun wan her to develop sweet tooth.hai...anyway, she too stubbon in certain thing. what to do?? I hope my sibling won't influence tx with sweet thing esp soft drinks which my siblings alwasy drink. so everytime, during her wkend educational tour at the supermarket, my hubby will tell tx this cannot consume tha cannot eat...etc... wow, avodcado and yogurt fatty food wor...
 
Hi mummies,
just like to find out for those bb consume Nan fm, do u still give nan 2 or have start giving nan 3 to yr bb liao? any problem in switching nan 2 to nan 3? eg will bb find it funny cos I have a frenz whose bb won't consume nan3 so in the end, she stay put at nan 2.

I am wondering shd i swtich to another brand of fm (think might be letting tx try gain IQ next mth when I get the sample) when tx is 1 yr old. cos gain IQ is cheaper than nan 3 and further more I am accumalating the abbott receipts too as I bought the ensure life for my mum since april.

pls advise.
 
Afcai

I'm also JT's caregiver. Hers is a very complex issue lah... if you read my previous postings a few weeks back... she started to hate food after I intro soy FM in her cereals when she was abt 7mth.... then she developed a phobia for the spoon... so we had to make her eat by giving her things to play.. and now I think it has become a habit... her milk intake is also very poor... basically she lives on air lah...avocado and yoghurt is very good for babies!! They contain good fats needed for the development. Fats are needed for the body to form the cell membrane so it's very important for growing babies... dun ever put your baby on a low fat diet!

Tan SL
yah I know their food is tasteless... but for my girl, sometimes she doesn't even want fruits... I mean fruits are so yummy rt?? so I think I basically just have a baby who wants to live on air! You can put more "tasty" things like pumpkin, carrots, cauliflower.... tat time I was so desperate, I gave JT porridge with steamed apples... oh well... whatever lah as long as she eats...

Kimi
Wah!! Tat Sun plaza NTUC actually has the high class yoghurt wor!! I'm impressed! Hopefully mandy likes the yoghurt! aiyo ex also bo bian lah
as long as Mandy likes it!

Choo
I forgot to say just now... if you intend to stop bf completely next mth, then you should start giving ivan FM now... you can't just switch it over completely overnight. I wanted to go back to work so wanted to intro FM to JT at 7mth, made a huge mess out of it... and now I'm back to square one... or maybe worse than before cos I made her develop bad eating habits. I agree with Karen, sometimes we can't decide if we want to give them FM or fresh milk, they are the boss, esp now that they are abt 1 year old... it's not so easy to get them to accept new things where milk is concerned.

I understand the part on can't pump when looking after bb alone... me too... that time my MIL kept complaining that I'm so lazy, dun pump and give JT bottle at home, that's why she dun wan bottle... but she doesn't understand that it's an almost impossible task when we are the only caregiver, esp after they are 6mth when they become mobile...

Bloom
where are you going to celebrate Kate's birthday? Err.... you let Kate eat the yeast ah?? For what huh?? Sounds a bit wierd to me...
 
afcai,
me still giving ethan NAN 2HA... dun intend to give him NAN 3 since it does not have the hypoallegenic version... cos ethan has quite sensitive stomach... intend to switch to Mamil Gold Step 3 with immunofortis after he turns 1... starting to give him the sample liao...
 
afcai,
ai-yo, u never read e postings one ar? i nv gif mandy plain porridge one cos i tink it's nt nutrtious enof. my porridge has at least 2 types o vege n 1 type o meat.
yoghurt n avocado r GREAT 4 bbs. v v nutritious. e bb yoghurt i bot has no seasoning n i tried b4, nt much taste, just sour. fruits r o cos sweet n some vege too. but we can't nt feed them. e best way 4 them 2 get a balanced diet tt meets all their nutritional needs is 2 feed a variety o food, as long as they r nt unhealthy. i try 2 feed food fr all e colour grps n just agar agar tt she gets some carb, protein, calcium, iron, zinc n wat's nt.

dora,
mandy finished e whole tub o yoghurt which is a bigger tub than yoplait's. yipee!!!!
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it cost me $2.61!
oh, same. i dun tink it's bt e taste. mandy sometimes reject sweet fruits n wans only yucky spinach puree...

tan sl,
i'm oso worried bt bad eating habits. so i die die must finsh feeding her in one sitting. i mean, i won't feed her after one hr. den i let her nap n if she wakes up hungry i feed her again. in tt way, hopefully she doesn't feel like she can eat in installments. but sigh, i noe v hard sometimes. n no matter wat, i dun let her eat while mobile. haahahahaha.... i'm v paranoid bt tt. cos i always see my aunties chasing them rd e hse, holding a spoonful o food.... den e kid will play hide n seek or start throwing tings ard... sigh... can't bear e sight... i hope she learns tt she chose nt to eat when she doesn't wanna stay still n b patient. tt means i hafta stuff her w food at every sitting lor! sigh....
 
hi afcai,
i hav been giving jav Nan3 when he reach 10mth old. he is okie wif Nan3. but mi also tinking of changing to gainIQ when he reach 1 year old.
 
Dora
I shdn't be laughing but ur comment tat JT lives on air made me laugh wor. Made me think tat JT is "san sin (cantonese)" aka saint
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Some milk proteins nia so she may not be allergic to those elements mah....u never try how u know she cannot take it. As for free sample n let her try mah. If she can take it or likes it at least then u dun hv to worry she is not taking in enuff nutrients.

Afcai, TanSL
Now tat my boy is 10 mths I m not so particular abt adding some seasoning into my boy's food. I hv started adding some salt or soya sauce into his food. Tat way he eats more. I rather he eats some seasoning than not eat at all. I dun think kids will develop sweet tooth just bcos u make their porridge more flavoursome. What gives them sweet tooth is if u feed them junk food like crisps, chocolate etc. When they become toddlers we just need to hv discipline when it comes to junk food.
 
dora... if it ever makes u feel better..dont forget that kate NEVER finishes one bowl of porridge (except that one time when i left her with her father at home and he did not manage to get milk into her for 6 hours)..congrats on winning ur personal toto btw :p supposed brewester yeast is high in protein vit B trace elemts etc.... but its so yucky i think i wont let her take it long term! :p me not really celebrating kate's bd lah.. ILs brought a cake last sunday... then next sat my side will have a normal bbq which comes with a cake :p

bobianah, thank you very much for passing the Nan 2 HA to me ..ehehe.... i copy the wrong unit number luckily u give precise directions and when i saw that playschool walker i know thats the right unit! :p btw, ur MIL look very young leh! And today is the first time I take the BP LRT... wah..like roller coaster got up and down...
 
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KATE!!! Hugs and kisses from Auntie Dora and JingTing
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Bloom
I know lah... but at least Kate will finish that half a bowl w/o fuss, JT takes 1hr to finish 1/2 bowl sometimes leh! Eeeeks... the yeast sounds terrible.. Kate actually eats ah?

Kimi
Hahaha... you still counted the price of the yoghurt till the last cent!! Ok lah, at least she loved it... that's priceless!! JT loved it too... but too bad she can't take
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I am also very paranoid abt kids who dun sit down to eat... the only time I let her roam around to eat is when I'm feeding her fruits after her meal... I'm ok with that lah cos I also walk ard the house with my apple mah... but for her porridge, I would insist that she is strapped down on her high chair... but actually I think for JT, if she doesn't want to eat, she won't eat sitting down or crawling around anyway...

LiL
hehehe... I really called her xian1 or saint .... cos she really can leave on air during her food strikes... headache ah this girl.... dunno want to try the pediasure or not... cos everytime she has an allergy, she gets really grouchy and whole body red, needs steroids one... sigh...
 
Bloom,
haha! you're welcome! Lucky u found the right unit cos the opposite unit oso hv bbs! My MIL & even my mum look young even tough they oredi qualify for senior citizens ezlink card. They belong to the "well-maintained" group of ladies of their generation. My mum still works as a secretary...so hor, u can imagine, she dresses up for work and uses more makeup then me...next to her, I'm plain jane.
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Sorry cldnt be there to meet you. By the time i got home from work last nite it was oredi 11pm...so tired now...zzzzzzzzzzzz
Happy birthday to kate!

afcai
ai-yo! Avocado and yogurt fats are healthy fats for bbs brain development! Like all the mummies said, fats are essential for bb's growth! Giving them a low-fat diet is a no-no! Of cos, we must be careful abt the fats we give...fish fats, avocado etc are good fats. The ones we avoid are sugary junk food, cakes etc. which they are not supposed to eat yet anyway.

kimi
congrats that mandy finish the yogurt! heehee!
 
thank you for all the early morning well wishes for kate..
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dora.. dont forget that after a while kate also threaten to jump down from the high chair and i still have to feed her with her running around... i just gave her 1/2 - 1 teaspoon of the yeast and mix with her porridge ehehhehe

bobianah, thanks
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wah..ur MIL and mom really well maintained..u should see my mom.. looks her age :p sighh..hates OT right? ehehhe... last night my bbsitter said no FM liao, so u pass me the FM just in time!
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bloom
HAPPY BIRTHDAY to KATE in advance.

bobianah
oic. what brand of yoghurt suitable for bb? any diff in adult yoghurt? mil bought cod fish for tx to consume every sat. so cod fish consider fatty fish right? how to choose Avocado, i mean how we know it is ripe? I myself never eaten Avocado b4.

LiL
wow, steady, adding season to porriage. tot, cooking with fish already sweet liao. not afraid of bb digestion system cannot take salt.

kimi
paiseh loh, sometimes I missed out posting.thks for sharing.now tx porriag cooked by my mum consists of small serving of veg(spinah), tofu, fish, meat loh.

serene
have u got sample of gain iq from abbott? for me, abbott will be sending me the sample in 10 days and will let tx try it.

zion
u ask dumex for sample of step 3 loh to let ethan try the Mamil Gold Step 3 with immunofortis? is he ok with the sample then? does he find the taste funny?

Dora
err..maybe the soy FM scared her. have u try it (soy FM ) yrself? taste nice?thks for info regards to the fats issues, didn't know it is used for formation of the cell membrane.how to choose ripe Avocado or know whether it is ripe?
 
Afcai
Ask u to put a little bit of seasoning not pour whole bottle of salt mah. Anyway our bb's almost 1yr old liao leh...digestive system is now more than matured enuff to cope with some salt esp since they r still taking in so much fluids everyday. Ask u to eat tasteless food u also wanna puke lah, can imagine ur child has been eating tasteless stuff for so long of cos they also lose interest in food. BTW, dunno if u hv tasted tx's porridge, even if u put in fish also not sweet one lah. I even add scallop in addition to fish or meat...still tasteless altho smells nice.

Kimi
Err....think bb being choosy abt food, throwing tantrums (like smacking food containers etc) while eating r also bad eating habits. Rather feed my child mobile if he prefers it n eats without fuss than have him throw tantrums in his chair. Once they r toddlers n can be disciplined, can teach them to eat at table. Already hving such difficult time looking after his other needs, no need trouble with feeding too. Else I will go insane
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Bloom
Hahaha..no thx for the brewers yeast...my policy is tat I will not feed my boy anything that I can't bear to taste myself
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I might add some marmite into his porridge instead of tat...almost d same n taste much better
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Mummies, thanks for your compliments on the cake.The cake was done thru 3 phases with the decor done one week in advance then last sat bake the cake and sun morning then cover with fondant and decorate it.

Kimi, actually i said its a risk bec its the first time i am doing a fondant cake so not sure if will be successful. In fact, the cake has its imperfections, the brand of the fondant i want cannot find so i used another brand and it cracked when i tried to use to cover the cake so end up i have to do patch up work instead of decorating it according to my original plan.

Dora, i let Evee nibble on tiny bits of the choco cake
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Bloom, happy birthday to kate. What milk powder you changing to? Till now i no time to change Evee's milk powder. So busy recently, hiaz.
 
bloom,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO KATE!!!!!!!!
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so envy! Ivan will only turn 11mth next monday!

Dora,

oh ya i tinking since 1more mth to go so dun try FM yet.wait till he officiallly one year old then i try FM or full cream fresh milk.i was telling hubby about JT and Mandy rejecting food.hubby said aiyo must be hard on you n kimi!! cos sometimes he feed ivan dinner also very pissed off!nearly flared up!

QSG,

you have done a very good job!!very sweet cake!!i remember c offee bean has tis design.i really like but not suitable for ivan
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mummies
comment needed for fm issue. do u follow how much scope of fm to use and the amt of water to add when u make fm? eg, usually, 1 scope of fm = 30ml of water.(except for stimilac fm, 1 scope = 60ml of water cos scope spoon bigger). usually, I will scope 6 scope into a small container and prepare abt 6 containers for my mum. my mum would not go and open the tin of fm (400g). mum is telling me to scope additional of 1 more scope and 180ml of water. by right, it shd be 210ml of water. she told me that by using less water, the fm will be thicker and bb will be full.she mentioned last time, i dun follow the instruction want, want to scope how many scope of powder also can, now she call me ngiao. )*(&*(&. I told her that cannot cos it will be heaty if given unbalance amt of fm with incorrect water.

any comment on this??

LiL
yup, I did taste tx's porriage that my mum cook.it is sweet loh. as for myself, I will cook the brown rice porriage on sat for tx's dinner and bring it to mil's hse. mil will then provide the ingrediants (half size fish, few potatoes, sometimes pumpkin and sometimes carrot, egg yolk). my hubby and I will also eat tx porriage during lunch with addition tofu in it and also with sardine.
 
lil,
haha... ya lor. i oso mentioned b4 tt it's a bad habit mah (tho i din intro e bad habit to her), tt's y i dun wanna intro another one. this mandy v noti one, now u noe. mb it's me lah, i really can't stand e idea o ppl nt eating while sitting at e table. i constantly try 2 break her away fr e smacking n throwing n being choosy bt food. tt's y i'm scared o intro seasoning cos i dun wan her to get choosier.
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QSG,
wow! 1st time doing fondant ar? u're talented lah!
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bloom,
happy bday 2 kate! mandy's fellow prem fren!
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afcai,
i keep forgeting to call dumex to ask for sample... anyway i got some sample sachets from one of the mummies from this forum to let ethan try for the time being... will try to remember to call dumex for the 400g tin... not sure mil give him liao anot...

re the fm thingy... i personally follow v strictly on the instructions... but mil will make the fm thinner when ethan refuses to drink water... but she nv make it thicker... i feel dat it would be more heaty to make it thicker n mil does mention the same thing b4... so we nv make his fm thicker... no pt increase the heatiness since fm is already v heaty... n there is no proof saying thicker fm makes bb fuller... the proportion stated on the tin is there for gd reason... inproportion fm may cause loss of nutrients frm the fm...

ethan's porridge oso taste sweet... in fact it tasets better than our food... but no seasoning is used for preparing the porridge... i know cos i prepare the porridge exactly the way mil prepares it n i tasted it... it is really v nice...
 
My gal also fuss alot now during meal time. Maybe like what all of you said that their taste bud changes. Headache not sure what else to prepare for her. So far is B'fast - brown rice porridge+ 1 veg + 1 fish or pork or chix. Dinner - Cereal + potato + 1 veg + 1 fish. She is in infant care so they will give porridge for lunch and fruits during teabreak.

She starts to throw tantrum! If she doesn't get her way, she will throw tantrum by crying, screaming, throwing her head back, etc. We try not to give in all the time. Haiz....

Hope this is a passing phrase....

Blessed Birthday to Babies born in November!
 
Afcai, Zion
Hahaha...then I must hv v numb tastebuds. My boy's porridge always has scallop, either fish or pork plus either sweet potato or pumpkin in it for sweetness but everytime I taste it's still bland
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On top of tat I add green veggies and ginseng. N still tasteless to me.

Today I cooked roast vegetable n tuna pasta for lunch. E kept trying to get at my plate so I let him try a small piece of roast veg n tuna. Once he tasted it he was so happy he kept trying to grab my plate
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If only he ate his own porridge or pasta with such enthusiasm!

Diana
Maybe try adding roasted mashed vege into the porridge instead of just plain steaming or boiling with the porridge. Taste better tat way. Nowadays whenever I cook roast veg, I will cook extra for his porridge. My boy eats more when it's roasted veg day. I also cooked pasta with a sweet potato n cheese sauce topped with flaked pan fried salmon. He likes that too. But if u do cook pasta my advice is to mash or grind the pasta so that it is easier for ur girl to eat. Otherwise it is hard work n she probably will not be able to eat much.
 
Afcai
Oh ya forgot to warn u. Since u r so worried abt salt, do u know that the baby bites biscuits have quite a high salt content?
 
Lil

Looks like you have like you said very numb taste buds then all the more you should not use your own standards to gauge if it's tasteless or not for your baby.

If they have never tasted soya sauce, how would they know if something is tasteless? Food has natural sweetness, it's through all the artificial flavourings we have tasted throughout the years that has dimmed our own sense of taste. If I had a choice, I would like to be able to eat less salt and still enjoy my food, honestly!

And about the biscuits, those are not staples and only taken occasionally, those salt content we can't help. and precisely because they are so many sources of salt content that we can't help, those that we can control, like adding seasonings we should really control. Those are my thoughts.
 
afcai
there are several brands of yogurt. as long as it says "natural" it should be ok. NTUC sells avocado oso. once it ripens, it turns black, means can cut, scoop and feed. I think we have discussed this before sometime back.

Kimi, Dora
me same as u...prefer to feed hannah food in her high chair. Must start the habit now. If she fuss and dun want to sit in her chair, I won't feed her. She gets the msg. Sometimes, i give her some little toys to play with to keep her hands occupied and me time to get her next spoonful of food. Anyway, she usually very greedy, open mouth big big to eat. When makan time, she see the food, she will shake shake shake her body...very cute...heehee!

zion,
yahyah...i find hannah's food very tasty even tho no seasonings. The natural flavour is superb

lil,
i oso dun add seasonings, cos the natural taste is already so flavourful! Plus, like doggie say, for those added seasonings that we can avoid, I avoid/cut down lor. I oso trying to be healthier, eat less salt etc etc. for our own adult meals. I think it's a matter of getting used to since our tastebuds are "corrupted", not like bb's. So, unless necessary, as long as I can, i will not put additional seasonings (even if just a teensy bit) to hannah's food prep. There is already naturally occuring sodium and other minerals in the majority of our food sources and it's sufficient. Those in baby bites, bottle food (which i use in emergencies) quite low content, and we dun feed often anyway.
But, as i always say...to each his own...
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LiL,

Prob you are so used to having all the hao liao... so u find E's food very bland. I agree with Zion that their porridge is heavenly. I'll happily lick up watever is left behind.

Even now, my mom is getting us to cut down on our sodium intake, it will be wierd to build it up in our kids... They are a blank sheet of paper now... every new food introduction is already a new sensation to them already mah. If you have never tasted salt, how dun you arrive at the fact tat food is yummier with it?

My ger's been taking FM for the last 11mths... I'm not gonna intro choc milk to her coz FM is so bland mah.

As for chasing kids round the house feeding them, I tink when u allow them to develop the habit now, it's not fair to tell them that it's wrong to do that when they reach a certain age. Y encourage it now n disapprove later? It will be just confusing for them.....n certainly not their fault since mummy neber stop b4.
 


Doggiebb, Bobianah, Calynn
Woao come in for a peek n see a gang attack. Agree with u that it wld not be fair to gauge bb's porridge with my own taste buds n I m not talking abt making Ewan's porridge tasty any where near the point tat wld satisfy my tastebuds. N definitely agree tat it's precisely bcos there r hidden 'salts' in other foods that we need to control adding seasoning to porridge. But I dun think adding a pinch of salt to our babies porridge to bring out the natural flavours of the other ingredients is the end of the world now tat our babies r almost one. 1st their kidneys r more mature now and 2nd, soon they will be transitioning to adult food anyway. I dun agree that bb's cannot tell the difference btwn bland porridge n tastier porridge. They have tasted FM which is not bland but actually quite sweet n also baby biscuits which happen to be very tasty as well. And in fact when E's porridge is tastier he obviously enjoys it more as he eats more. Eating more porridge mean he snacks less on the real unhealthy foods such as biscuits. As long as my baby's salt intake per day does not exceed the 1g daily max limit I do not see any harm. But to each their own...if ur babies dun gag on what u feed them and is happily chomping down good sized portions, then lucky u.

Calynn
As for chasing kids ard the house feeding them...if u think I do tat then u hv certainly misunderstood me. It's so tiring to feed a child like tat, why wld any sane mother think anyone else wld encourage that behaviour!!! But if my boy refuses to sit in his chair for feedings n throws tantrums n creates a big mess, I dun see why I shd force him and make feedings so difficult for him and myself. So it's definitely not a matter of encouraging bad habits now n discouraging later as u say. IT's a matter of doing what works now and when the time is right enforce the discipline which I have always been telling him verbally but as yet, he does not understand. Maybe your babies r happy sitting in the high chair for dinner but mine isn't. I dun think u can gauge other child's character/behaviour by your own. If u also think that I m asking Dora n Kimi to encourage their babies to run ard during feedings then that is even nuttier. I m merely saying that since they r having so many tantrums during feedings (which i think is counter-productive as it just makes them dislike eating even more), why not try letting them sit on the floor. It worked for me, it worked for some other mothers.

N Calynn...sometimes u dun have a choice. My frends son is such a fussy eater that even at 2 yrs old he weighs barely 11kg. He dislikes even milk n is only willing to drink choc pediasure. Wld u even take that away frm ur child just bcos u set such high stds on "health"? Everything is subjective and in the end u do what works for your child.
 

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