(2006/12) December 2006 MTBs

sorry doggiebb, couldn't make it last sunday. anyway, tim was down with cough and cold too. should avoid all other bbs.....

mbb, brave meg! but still, she so poor thing.....sayang....

mbb, wennie, lil, my sil gave pediasure to her kids after 1 yr and their appetite really improved after that. but hor, now both kids now in taf club.
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guess you have to watch their diet after that.

bobianah, wa, now trend to send bb to all these trial classes huh? have fun! tim has been sick and so is my ger.....they are recovering, now my turn! sigh!

kimi, ya la, start a playgroup lei!
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sylk, is regina better now? poor thing....

afcai, go to kiddy palace, they have mattresses for different cots and playpen. dunno their prices....
 


afcai,mbb,kimi,gan,

thanks for all the info on vegs!!
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cos i really sick of cooking those tat i am curently giving! think ivan also sick!

this morning brought ivan to see a very pro pd at tmc...thinking if he said ivan weight is really to worry ..then i will give him FM! but turn out he said no to FM ask me to continue give BM...
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he said his weight is ok not underweight...n now he is so active..weight gain will be slow..he said if ivan reach 8kg at one year old ok liao!

Lil,hwee,MBB,

my sis gave my 'unweanable' niece pedisure 2weeks ago...now her cheeks seems to have more'meat' she not fussy eater in fact she eat alot n everyting but she also move non stop...my sis still cant wean her off n her second bb due jan 08 !aiyoooo!!
 
choo,
Ivan not underweight lah, acc to book/infor that bf bb won't be obese and weight will be maintain.

yup, gd for u to intro so many food stuff to Ivan, my mum only stick to fish, veg(1 type only) and meat only. then at my mil's plc, tx will get to eat pumkin/carrot (not everytime), potato, steam whole piece fish. i will give her tofu only. so tx has limited food varieties than Ivan.

to me, Ivan has developed much faster than tx. u know, heard fr my fren that her sil 's bb only got 2 teeth only. she is already 18 mth liao. worries or not man...

do u brush Ivan teeth? hmm...how to brush bb's teeth, scared brush her gum then bleed how? anyway, tx's 2 teeth not fully developed yet too tiny to brush but will make sure that she rinse off any milk with water after the feed. Have told my mum and dunn if she did that but I did that for her last feed before I leave my mum'plc daily. haa..so funny, when she taught her bb how to use the toothbrush, the toddler use it to brush toilet floor.

recently, over the weekend, hubby and I will take her to education tour to supermarket before bringing her to my mum'plc on sun and mil's plc on sat. now, she know the fruits name esp apple, orange, banana and when we asked her where the apple at the hse, her head will turn. one of the time, she even use hand to gesture the banana liao.

my cousin in law's bb (only younger than tx by 11 days) still dunno how to sit but know how to crusie ard the bb cot liao. tx still dunno how to pull herself up her play pen(last week, then I lower down her playpen only, she was sweating like mad, clothes are wet mah..even tough fan blowly towards her play pen)


hwee
thks for info. what type of mattress do you use for Tim's cot? tx's mattress is those sponge mattress which is bought at John little. ever saw those mattress at kidmall and Tom n step but more or less are similar. anyway, will check it out at neighbourhood furniture shop to see if it is cheaper to make the playpen mattress.


sylk
is Regina getting better? maybe she caught some virus.

kimi
u got so many supportors leh to start a playgrp.
 
sian with work.. mgr deliberately wan to make my life difficult...

zion, good tat u have a good mil loh..

*chant* *kimi* *kimi* *playgrp* *playgrp*

afcai, din bring her to see doc lah. Let her cry for a while drink water then she is sob sob then back to play liao... the auntie downstairs talk alot of rubbish leh. tx very smart leh..can recognise the fruits

bobianah, thanks for organising!!!!!

starluster, will be first time seeing u on 20th oct
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sylk..eye infection?? what happen???
 
Hwee
TAF club...aiyo, is it bcos of pediasure or bcos the kids eat too much junk on top of their proper meals? Dun scare me leh.

Sylk
ok noted. Since only 3 of us r interested, we will hv to join an existing class. Will call JG to check which dates they can do. BTW, sounds like Singapore air/water or weather not suitable for Regina, poor thing. Happens to me sometimes when I travel. When r u off to ur next destination?
 
kimi,
forgot to answer ur question.
for eggplant, i prefer the round ones coz i find have lesser (almost none) seed.

bake n then puree....yummie.

hee hee....u should consider starting the class la. follow by art class wen our bb is older
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Sylk,
if you prefer Nov, i am ok too.
will be on leave from 13th Nov till the end of the mth.

wats wrong with Regina's eyes?

Lil,
how?? wanna wait for Regina?

i have second tot abt Pediasure now.
no AA, DHA etc....juz fats.

later join the obese gang...faint!

Vanessa n Ruffybear,
tkz for inviting me to lunch.
sms me again if there's more lunch dates.

Gan,
wow! bb Hayley had 4 tooth at once??!

Bloom,
sayang bb Kath!
i also will not rush to doc la coz there's more tis kinda minor accidents.

that's how they learn.

Afcai,
tkz for the info abt Abott reciept.
i might juz stick to Dumex.
coz ger ger if become too fat is gonna be a pain.


Ladies,
anyone have 4 NTUC points?
wanna exchange with me?
 
ladies,
hahaha.. impossible 4 me 2 start playgrp lah. 1st o all, need 2 tchrs..plus one parent 2 each bb.. my mandy how? then, my place nt big enof + no facilities... n oso hor, v tiring 2 run a class one. i'm too lazy even 2 do those stuff w mandy.
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lil, the kids used to be choosy abt food and would not eat. after pediasure they eat more. it kinda open up their appetite. then they eat a lot lor. sigh! always ask for bread and biscuits. you know how grandma will give when kids ask so they are now in taf club. trying to even cut down on the rice they eat during main meals. so poor thing.

sylk, think its really everything here....maybe its 'shui tu bu fu'. just have to take care!

afcai, i have an extra mattress for my cot so i use it in the playpen now. i'm not sure if those furniture shops do custom order mattresses or not.
 
Zion,
i wan!
wat do you wan in return for exchange?
sms me la, tkzzz.

Bobianah,
tell your fren to skip the CL i recommended.
she is currently not in good health.
i dun tink it is a good idea to book her.
 
bobianhah,
jav attended the trial at 11am slot. Normally his nap time is around 11am also. tat day he woke up at 7plus am. i tried to make him sleep at 9plus am before we left for BJG @ 10.30am. but he was still veri energetic. therefore he was abit cranky during some part of the trial.

choo,
jav also will stand n jump on his high chair when we feed him. i hav to use one hand to hold on to him to prevent him from falling n another hand feed him. feeding him nowsaday is also a difficult task. even if i giv him a toy to distract him or let him watch his fav elmo vcd, he will still struggle off his safety belt n stand up after sometimes.
regarding the weight, javier also weight less than 9kg but he is more taller n more than 50 percentile. as i was quite worried his height during his 6 mth assessment when he was less than 50 persentile. Our bbs r more active n love to crawl or walk around during tis stage, their weight will definitely b affected. As long as they r happy, healthy n eating well, we shldnt worry too much.

Sylk,
hope Regina is on the recovering path. my jav also down wif mild coughing n running nose. feeding him medicine nowsaday is also a great challenge. the moment he sees mi wif the medicine needle in my hand, he will turn his head away. when injected the medicine into his mouth, he will split them out.
 
Hi serene,
didn't u belt jav when he seat on the high chair? where is BJG??

hi hwee/ruffybear,
oic. think have it cos i order most of my furniture fr the bt batok branch neighbourhood furniture shop near interchange. I should have tailor made the mattress before the arrival of tx. I think seahorse brand is much better quality in term of other tailor made no brand. acc to the seahse staff, he said the mattress can last for 7 yrs. so if that case, in future, it can be used for my no 2.

Ruffybear - thks. think the price for seahorse mattress has increased. currently, we have a seahorse brand single mattress cum bed. usually, will let tx lie there during her changing times (after bath and change of diaper loh).
 
Bloom, MBB, LiL, Hwee, Afcai, Serene,
Thanks thanks. R is on the slow road to recovery. Her fever is still hovering around, already into it's 5th day. Eye infection is gone, just a couple of days of watery eyes and slight discharge. To look on the bright side, I am glad it didn't happen in Italy, and maybe she's just training us to deal with it, else in Panama when we are all alone, it'll be worse.
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LiL,
We're targeting to leave in Dec.

Mbb,
Late Oct is ok, no need to KIV for so long. Thanks.
And yah, looking forward to getting the shoes and bblegs. Heehee.
 
MBB
Aiyooooo!!! Poor meg. Sayang her for me... she's a brave girl!! Seems like when they walk, we'll be even more tired!!

Oh.... mummies whose babies are not eating well, I dunno if I have just found the answer or if its because JT is having a growth spurt. she has been eating one whole bowl of porridge every meal... i know its normal for a lot of bb here, but for JT, that's like 4x of her normal intake. I am giving her Appeton multivitamins drop for infants, which contains lysine which is supposed to be an appetite booster. Maybe that's what is in pediasure that makes the kids want to eat more. I am not sure if it is really working, but so far so good!

Kimi
I also hope this would last. I never imagine tat she will eat 1 whole bowl of porridge in 1/2 hour. It's really like striking Toto!! Although she still needs to play and I need to constantly give her something new to play... but at least she is eating!!!

Kimi, can organise during weekends? Then your hubby take over Mandy?? Maybe you can jio a few of us staying nearby for a trial run? Can earn extra income, and can let Mandy socialise more mah? Try 1 session and see?

Sylk
Poor Regina. Hopefully she'll recover soon..

Bobianah
Thanks so much for arranging. I'll be there early.
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Zion
AIyo.... JT already stopped her nite feeds when she was 6wks old... altho she does wake up for feeds sometimes during growth spurts.... but its an on demand thing.... Wah wonder how you do it every nite, and you have to work somemore.....sometimes babies stomach has wind is because of the things they eat, such as sweet potato and broccoli... and also milk bottle... no such thing as having wind on empty stomach lah.... you should start training him to sleep thro the nite, if not it'll be very difficult when he becomes a toddler.
 
Zion,
yup, agreed with what dora has mentioned. my col told me do adult woke up during nite for makan?? no right so if ethan can slp, then let him slp, or else it will become a habit for him as he grew up, he will wake up at night for feed. think ethan shd be weaning off night feed soon...so bravo...u shd be happy, right.
 
dora, congrats lei! good to hear that jt is eating well! hmmm....how do you give the multivit drops to her? thru her milk or porridge?

sylk, good to hear you're handling it fine.
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ya man, no joke to be sick overseas when all alone. no worries, she'll recover soon.
 
sylk, but what causes the eye infection? is it sore eyes? i tink u better start checking out the standard of the doc in panama..imagine if u live miles away from a decent doctor..sighh..

dora. good to give bb multivits w/o doc's approval? sometimes i am tempted to do so but wonder if i will overdose her with vits :p kate will never eat 1 bowl even when there is a growth spurt..sighh...

kimi..see..so many pp asking u to start a class....ehehhe...
 
Hi Gan/Starluster/Sylk/Roo13/TanSL
Not enough bbies to form a GUG trial class on 21 Oct, shall have to cancel it.

Gan
I dn't mind to bring Vernice to join Hayley for GUG trial class on 14 Oct, shall give GUG a call later. What is your timing?

sylk, hope R will fast fast recover...take care

dora... wow...jt a big eater now! congra!
 
wah... thnx for all the comments, ladies... i must be a super woman to be able to survive with 3-4hrs of sleep every nite... hee... but these few nites have been letting ethan sleep thru n he is doing quite well... n i have more sleep too... hee... n no more panda eyes... hee... haiz... sometimes really cannot listen to mil too much... now trying to convince her to change ethan's menu in a nice way... wish me luck...
 
Hi Zion,
Each baby is different lor...dun compare else u will get upset. Mayb if u compare wif my boy who is super difficult to look after u will feel better
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1. when will bbs outgrow nite feeds?
My boy has never ever slept thru nite b4. Now still wakes up at least twice a nite for milk. I dun mind giving him milk since he is not drinking much during daytime anyway. But sometimes he wakes up n refuses to go back to sleep...that's what makes me super tired. Now that he is older it's better cos he can understand when I scold him n tell him to sleep.

2. is it ok for bbs 9-10mths to forgo nite feeds altogether? ie last feed abt 10-11pm till next morning 9-10am...
It is ok but what can u do if ur bb wants to wake up nightly for feed. I guess u can try to train him like some mommies here did but that means letting him cry himself back to sleep for many many days. Is it worth it, when all it takes is just giving him milk n he will go back to sleep. To me...NO. They will outgrow this in good time...trust me, my SIL n my mum never believe in training bb's to forgo nite feed n eventually all their bb's outgrow this.

3. how much does ur bb drink at nite? cos usually ethan only drink abt 120ml at nite... but these few nites he has been refusing nite feeds altogether... wasting quite a few bottles of FM liao... haiz...
My boy drinks 150ml or less. Sometimes if he drinks earlier I will make 180ml but it takes 1hr to get him to finish that amt. He will still wake up for his nite feeds.

4. wat happen when ur bb is teething? ethan has ALL e symtoms of teething, drooling, cranky, biting everything n anything, refusing milk n porridge but juz nothing comes out... any tips to make it easier for him? have tried teething gel but ethan ends up sucking everything... dunno if it really helps...
Same. Drooling alot, cranky n reduced milk intake. Mine was super cranky such that middle of the nite he will wake up n cry. Give milk dun want, carry, rock also dun want. Tried teething gels...useless. On days when I think he is going to hv a bad night I give him a dose of panadol b4 he goes to sleep (on PD's suggestion). That seems to help. He wld also drink better after that.

Dora
Good that JT eating better liao. Hope it keeps up.

Sylk
Actually may turn out to be a good thing that R has caught so many bugs now. Build up her immunity so that she will be stronger when u r in Panama.

Serene Choo
i gave up putting E in any chair for his feeds cos he gets bored n will blow his food everywhere. No point giving him toys etc cos he just throws on the floor n continues blowing. Now I sit him on the bumper mat n let him move around. He comes back when to me for the next spoonful when he has swallowed. Makes life much easier.
 
Hi mummies
Thanks for your well wishes. I certainly hope it'll continue

Hwee
I put the mulitvits in the porridge. JT refuses to take milk unless latch on... so no choice lor...

Bloom
I was also apprehensive like you, but JT was really only on plain water and biscuits for 3-4 days, so I was desperate enuf to get the multi-vits. Anyway I dun intend to give her long term. If she continues to eat well, then I'll probably stop after 1 week or so...
 
bloom, i sent the organiser pm to help me buy lor! hee hee....its really cheap lei. very soon our bb will be able to play with it liao!
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dora, hmmmm, those days you put into her porridge, did she finish? its difficult to administer such things for bbs. i dun wan to waste if they dun finish the meal. i'm trying to give tim some acidophilus but afraid he won't finish then waste my $$$! sigh!
 
mbb,
meg's milk intake (210ml~240ml) is really good. remember one time u were worried abt her intake oso. are u still bringing her to yu guo? i stopped yu guo after 5 times or so. wonder if we were to continuously go, will help sophia's intake anot.

dora,
my pd prescribed appeton multivit for my gal. been taking it for abt 2 weeks liao. no significant increase in the total amt she drink/eat... but at least slightly easier to coax her to finish almost 120ml.

bloom,
ya.. will be my first time meeting most of u.
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rainV,
okies, no problem. will try out gymboree first then.

bloom, hwee,
any idea how big is those aquadoodle packaging? if not v big n u all willing to wait (latest Dec), then can get it for u all. coz my colleague (based in US) coming back during then... can ask him to lug it back.. hehe. provided not too big la. i already starting to send all my shopping items to him liao... ;) hee hee so happy. am so eagerly waiting for Dec.
 
starluster, wow! lt me see if the organiser reply to me or not. its those normal size doodle board lor. so far haven't heard from the organiser. but its such a small item i think dun wan to trouble your fren la. thanks for the offer!

bloom, if the organiser get back to you, let me know. so far i didn't hear from her. i cannot post in that thread. so if i still do not hear anything for her, can i tumpang my order with you? i wan to order 2 pcs. thanks!!!
 
Hi serene,

yes!!! i did the same ting too! one hand holding Ivan,one hand feeding him!!I have given up on tighten him at highchair! he just want to stand up n explore!!! my niece had the same highchair too .bt i never recall her doing such dangerous stunt!! =(

serene which cake shop did u order yr cake from?Now i have so many options dun know which one to choose....

Afcai,

yes hubby used those tooth brush like swipe something to brush ivan's teeth.so far ok.think he brush quite gently..
 
Hi Gan
called GUG and class is full on 14 Oct, unable to slot in another bb... nvm, let me know if is good after u've attended. Tks.
 
Hi mummies,
Thanks for sharing the Pediasure.

MMB,
The Pediasure content AA, DHA & SA...look at this link :
http://www.abbott.com.sg/family/for_famties/ft_sepoct07_pediasure_recipes.asp

White packaging - no FOS (a prebiotic) and probiotics (cheaper)
The other new packaging - contain the above ingredient. (more ex)

I called the hotline Abbott, the nutrition advise me not to take Pediasure yet, ask me go for Gian IQ for few mth 1st & ask advise fr PD whether my bb is underweight or not (of course, if i'm insists, then can ask sample fr them also but hv to reach 1yr not less),,If PD comment need to change then change lo..She also suggested schedule for my bb (which is almost the same timing for my bb la) just additional the 2oz milk
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6 am - 180 ml milk
9 am - Cereal mix with milk & Fruit (about 1/2 bowl)
11.30am - 2oz milk
12.30am - Porridge
3 pm - 180 ml milk
6 pm - porridge
9-10 pm - 180 ml milk

Actually my DS is now 8.8kg, he's drinking at max 180ml but not all the time can finish. For me, i think he's a bit slim, he's about 25-50%. He's not picky about his food, but just not a greddy bb lo. That's why i wanted him gain more weight
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About the multiV- i'm also giving him just drop into his milk every am. (but not Apetton brand) prescribe by PD.
 
Hwee
Thot u might b interested to know that the bifidus strain of probiotics is more suitable for babies not the acidophilus.
 
Hwee

I added the multi-vits to just a small portion of the porridge. I make sure she finish that small portion 1st before feeding her the remaining.

By the way, my hubby is going to US tomorrow. Dunno if the ulu place that he is going has Toys R Us or not. Will ask him to check it out then let you gals know.
 
thanks lil. i'm asking my sis to get it for me. she's been giving to her girls for a while and my girl also like it when she visits them. i'm not very familiar with those stuff. i'll let her know. thanks again!

dora, the item is now on sale in target (US7.99)not toys r us (US14.99). if he has the time. if not, i'm ok. hopefully tim cooperates and eat up when i add those into his porridge.
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choo,
ivan want to open mouth to let yr hubby brush his teeth ??

zion,
hai...sian...me also 4-5 hr of slp daily. travelling time kills....
 
<font color="0000ff">Hi Rain,
OK then, will let you know after we attend the trial class
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<font color="aa00aa">Hi Afcai/Choo,
I use the rubber finger 'teat' which comes with the 1st teeth toothpaste. I use it and show to Hayley and she will auto open her mouth and let me clean happily. But if I use a damp cloth to wipe her mouth, she refused to open her mouth for me.</font>
 
Bobianah,
if you need my gymbucks, go ahead.
i am too tired to shop tonight....

can do me a favour? tell Och i am not joining tis spree.
in case she din see my msg in msn.

muck muck

Och,
i cant post in tat link
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Winnie,
tkz for sharing the Pediasure info.
looking at the feeding schedule you shared, my Meg is not doing so bad la.

0730 - 210ml milk
1030/1100 - porridge
1220 - 210/240ml milk
1430 - 1 big tube of fruits
1630 - 210ml milk
1830 - porridge
2030 - 210/240ml milk

my only complain is tat she dun eat much of the porridge (yesterday she finito 1 bowl of carrot, brocolli and fish porridge tho).
and if we go out, she will not wanna drink her milk coz she get distracted
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Starluster,
din go yu guo a long time liao.
hated the waiting time.
 
hi Mbb,
Jus posted the point this morn. Do look out for it.
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May I know hw do u bake the asparagus/brinjal? temp and time? micro wave can? Thanks

talking abt food, Denise had been taking her porridge with threadfin, loin meat, potato, carrot since 7mths for lunch n dinner. Smtm only alternate with spinach or broccoli. No change. I see liao oso bored haha.............
 
Hwee
What happened (mayb I missed some postings)? Wasn't tim eating well?

Mbb
Aiyo...Meg is eating v well, u hv nothign to worry abt. Think she eats more than my boy. His eating schedule below for comparison.

0830 - 180ml milk
1230 - porridge
1500 - 150/180ml milk
1900 - porridge n some fruits after
2100 - 150ml/180ml milk
0230 - 80/100ml milk
0530 - 100/120ml milk
Some biscuits in between.

Roo
Same here, me also not v adventurous with my boy's porridge. Everyday the porridge is cooked with either threadfin plus scallop, salmon or lean pork meat. After that I add pureed sweet potato or pumpkin plus either brocolli, spinach, asparagus or avocado. Occassionally cook with potato but find it too tasteless. Yesterday I tried giving him mashed green peas as the green veg n he loved it bcos of the sweetness. Kept rushing me by pulling my feeding arm. BTW, I also add two slices of ginseng into the porridge everyday. Pei fu Kimi...hv even given dao miao etc. I m worried my boy's digestion system cannot cope with certain veg so will slowly add variety as he grows older. My friend's daugther was given alot of variety when she was a baby then end up her digestion system cannot cope n she pooed blood. So me v kia si.
 
ladies,
my hubby was practically chanting 'playgroup! playgroup!' these 2 days whenever he saw me.. so i tot bt it. it'd b gd 4 mandy too if i start a playgrp. i roped in my lead tchr (i used 2 partner her) who's v gd w kids n is oso a sahm now. she's interested. n since we both kinda miss teaching little kids, so....
we both feel tt if we're gonna start one, we wanna do it properly. so will find a nice aircon place + get all e materials.
so can i ask, how many o u r interested? we can always haf a trial 1st. if response is ok, we'll go ahead n prepare n propose a lesson plan. o cos we'll charge a reasonable rate.
lemme noe ya?
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mbb,
wow! all ur bbs r still eating so much! no wonder mandy's so tiny. meg doesn't eat cereals anymore? oh, thx 4 e info on brinjal. act it's so soft, dunno can just eat it straight after baking not. still must blend, v troublesome. hehehe..
 
<font color="aa00aa">Hi KIMI,
Horray!!!! I 'm so thrilled.. hee. Looks like u have many supporters fm forum, dark side, yur hubby who finally managed to convince you.

Horray to PLAYGROUP!!
Pls count me & Hayley in provided the session is on WKEND & the convenient location (best is @ yur home since we stayed at sembawang, SUPER convenient for us) haa

Keep me updated </font>

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hwee, dont say really cheap lah..after conversion plus shipping charges it might not be taht cheap.hahaha' will let u know if organiser ever start the bp for target...

starluster, abit pai seh to trouble ur colleague right? cos not sure abt the size...

wennie, any idea why the hotline suggested gain IQ?

dora, the aquadoodle is cheaper from target, but oos now... not sure when the stock is coming in...

gan..ahaha..hayley is so cute...

kimi.. *chant* playgroup! playgroup! of course me interested lah... esp when we live so near..ehehehe
 


bloom, gan,
sorry 2 disappoint u but it'll nt b at my place! my place no aircon n nt big enof. but wld most prob b at yio chu kang lah. my fren's condo. not v far oso.
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