Support group - Miscarriages


Hi everyone

Thanks for sharing your stories. It helps to know that I am not alone in my experience. For myself, I have had 2 miscarriages within a year. The first one was in April and the second one was in Dec recently.

My first m/c was at about 7/8 weeks where a heartbeat could not be detected. I had no signs or any bleeding. I went for a D&C. Period came back in about 6 weeks time (doctor had advised that it shd be back in about 4 - 6 weeks). My husband and I were sad but life has to go on. When my gynae told me, I was trying to remain composed and went through the process and D&C with no outward signs of upset because I was trying to be strong for myself and my husband. My gynae may have thought I was an emotionless person.

No tests were done after the first m/c as that is not the general practice and it is usually regarded as a one-off random occurence.

I continued trying and was pregant for the second time. This time, I was nervous aboout it, but when we heard heartbeat at 7 weeks, we felt much better.

Unfortunately, when I went for my check up at week 11, we found no heartbeat again and foetus growth had arrested at 10 weeks. This time, I just cried silently at my gynae's. I asked to make payment another time (when I come back for my D&C 2 days later) as I cannot go back into the waiting room full of happy preggies to wait to make payment.

I am grateful that my gynae takes my m/c seriously (not writing them off as some others may) and advised that she will be ordering tests to see if we can find out the reason why the m/cs had happened.

I am still waiting for the outcome of my tests. My thyroid tests, APS test (bloof clotting disorder) are back and clear. The test to see if the foetus had any chromosomal abnormalities also came back normal ie. no abnormalities. Now we have sent my blood for further testing for other more rarer blood clotting tests and I am still awaiting the results.

After my 2 m/c, I have been reading everything I can get my hands on, on the internet, books to understand the reason for why they happened.

I just want to understand why it happened, if there is a problem, and how I can fix it. I am not sure if I will have any answers. If there are no answers I am afraid to try again.

This CNY was tough with relatives teasing and making jokes about us better hurry up to have a baby. It's not that I do not want to have one, I just can't, I am not able to.
 
Hi Sangria,

I can understand what you are going through. Only a few of the closed ones knew about my m/c. So I have to go through Christmas, new year & CNY as if nothing happened. Also, everyone still ask why we still don't want to have baby. I am really sick of all these questions. I had heard them for 4 years. It's really not that we don't want, but we are not fated to keep the baby.

Take care, dear. Hope your test results are good.
 
Hi,

Was prescribed with cytotec to stop my pregnancy as we could not detect a growing sac. By right should be 7 weeks pregnant. Doc said no point dragging...
Anyone took cytotec before and mind sharing if you experience any discomfort taking it?

This is my 2nd m/c, really wonder when it will be my turn to experience motherhood??
 
Dear all,

I have also suffered a MC on 28 Jan and had d&c on 30 Jan. I was prescribed cytotec too. It is a kinda contraction pills to contract our cervix. Will have mild cramping like menses cramp. Have to take this 3 hrs before d&c.

Feeling very sad and fearful of future preg. Hope to hear more positive and success story of preg after MC.
 
courgeous81 >> Don't let this time's sad experience prevent you from taking the plunge again. I understand the feeling, preg after m/c is full of fear and anxiety, but we have to avoid that trap. Think positive, don't think of m/c being related to one another - after all it's 20% chance for everybody and technically risk does not increase for the next pregnancy.

babymaps12 >> Did your doc do any tests to find out what happened?
 
Hi tethysea, nope we did not do any tests. But i will check with doc again when i go for review next week. I did not undergo D&C, so its not possible to test if the foetus had any chromosomal abnormalities right since it came out together with my menses? Or still can test?
 
<font color="aa00aa">Hi ladies.
My heart goes out to all of u who are in this thread.
I see some familiar faces here.
I used to visit this thread too after experiencing 2 m/cs within a span of 6 months and i finally got pregnant last year.
Wanted to give u ladies hope that its possible to conceive n give birth to a healthy baby despite what u girl have went thru.
I managed to carry my baby to full term and gave birth to a healthy baby girl in Nov.
Now my girl is turning 3 months next week.

Don't let your sadness stop u from trying again.
God will definitely bless u with one in His time.
Just have faith in Him and keep trying..jia you!!</font>
 
Thanks all. After being to this thread then I realise there are so many ladies who suffer the same situation as me and really happy to see them being able to conceive later. I really hope I can be a mother soon too. Now I am seeing TCM to tiao back my health first. Doc exclaimed I am very very weak.
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My gynae told me.... he has a patient who conceived 9 times, and 5 MC, 4 successful. So now, she has 4 children... this encouraged me a little when I heard about my miscarriage last month.

Think is the mental and physical stress that is tougher to recover.

Really hope all of us will have good news soon.
 
Hi Premila,

I had D&amp;C on 30 Jan and my bleeding is heavy on that very day and became lighter thereafter. However, for the past few days, it started to get darker and heavier again. Think it depends on individual.

I checked with my gynae and he mentioned that as long as there is no pain and bleeding profusely, it should be ok.

Since you just have your d&amp;c, it is normal to bleed now.. juz monitor and check with your gynae if you feel something is not right.
 
HI Sangria,
I can understand and feel u.
I had a MC just two days ago (5weeks)
2nd MC in 1 1/2 hrs...
Going thru another round of emotions...hope it gets better,
Hugs to you..
 
Thanks lynzi, I think we ladies need the encouragements. So happy for you to give birth to a baby girl.

Hi Premila, my bleeding lasts about 3 weeks. Initially after DC, the flow is light, then it got heavier for more than 1 week &amp; gradually reduce. I think its really individual, as I know some ladies did not bleed for so long like me.

Take care!
 
<font color="aa00aa">Premila,
Both my mcs were natural.
The second mc even the sac came out.
Before that bleeding was very heavy but once the sac was out it gradually lessen over the days.

Hugsss to everyone here!</font>
 
Hi lynzi

Do you feel very fearful and paranoid with your 3rd pregnancy? After the first mc, i worried abt next preg and dunno whether the fear will further affect the bb's development.
 
<font color="aa00aa">Courageous81,
Yup i was so very afraid.
Was so extra careful.
After my second mc went thru lots of tests to find out the cause of it but all results came back negative.
But our wish to get a second child was very strong so we kept trying and didnt give up.
My first mc wasnt so badly affected but the second one hit really hard as we saw with our own eyes the baby's heartbeat stopped beating.
Even my hubby cried together with me.
When i was carrying my girl i was very paranoid but hubby kept reminding me to stay positive.
Afterall happy mummy = happy baby
I even counted the no of kicks a day as i got frens who had stillborns even at 38 weeks..very scary.</font>
 
Stillborn is really a very very sad case. Imagine carrying bb near to full term. haiz..

so lynzi, are u intending to hv another bb soon?

my bb heartbeat is faint during second scan but doc din mention anything negative. he still sounds so positive. however,it stop when i went for third scan..
 
babymaps12 >> Can't test the foetus, but can test see if you have any hyperallergic reactions that may be causing body to "attack" baby? Chromosome abnormalities my gynae says cannot help, cos sometimes when the cells multiplying just suay that something went wrong and abnormality happened.

hi lynzi! glad to hear that you have a bouncing baby girl now! :D
 
Hey ladies..
i am so glad to have found this thread!!!

I just had a miscarriage on sunday 12Feb. As i am not based in singapore and in a ulu countryside, getting to doc and hospital is gruesome..the experience was a nightmare! I started spotting on last friday evening time then got worse by the hour thruout saturday turned to bleeding and crampings rather bad..drove 2 times to the local doc only to have him tell me to go home and rest!!! So in the end no choice, went home and endured the pain and bled thru, finally placenta and what's left of poor bb slided out of me on early sunday morning..no D&amp;C required--as told by doc in hospital after v.scan (drove to hospital after a few hours later). It seemed that bb was not growing since week 8 or 9, then at that day week 12.5, the body pushed it out..

My emotional pain is getting better by the day as i and hb cried out loud so much the whole day on sunday. But no doubt, the pain will be still there i know..

I am just telling my hb that i am afraid of subsequent pregnancy now..can't help thinking of what will happen...though yes another part of me tells me that i need to go thru again just to have a child..but it's just fearful that it might happen again...
 
Chrisl,

Hugz!

Where are you staying?

Mi too...... so fearful of subsequent preg... This is my 1st preg and encountered this.
Doc said I can ttc after my first cycle of menses but I am worried and scared.
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Like you, I know I need to go tru again to hv a child... so lets summon our courage and be positive abt it..

I guess we shall do our best, and god will do the rest - by giving us the BEST.
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As long as we keep trying, and do our best, there is nothing much we can control abt the "quality" of pregnancy either. It is all meant to be.

Hugz and lets try again, ya?
 
Hi Chrisl,

I understand what you are going through. Dun give up, ok?

It’s my first preg that I mc too. I had been ttc for 3 years to conceive. It really hurts deeply.

I got my first menses after the mc in Dec. I test for ovulation as well. Seems like things have gone back to normal now. So, I am ttc again.

I believe we all have fear trying again, &amp; will be exceptionally skeptical towards the next pregnancy, but we have to think positive towards it. Ultimately, we all want children of our own.

Courageous81, all the best to you!! Hope to hear good news soon!!

We can all do this, ladies!! Babydust to all!!
 
<font color="aa00aa">Tethysea,
yup she is a really bouncing girl now..haha
Thanks.

Courageous,
Like your name i had to summon my courage and try again.
Only on my third try that its successful to full term.
So just like your name, dont give up.
Doesnt mean it happen once, it will happen again.

Chris,
Big hugs to u.
Cry all you want but dont give up.
Build back your health and try again.
I have a fren who went thru 3 times ivf and she finally got twins..both girls!
So dont give up ok..its possible!
Jia you!!</font>
 
Hello!!! I just head that a couple of others had conceived naturally after repeated miscarriages. My healer say thanks for your support and she is glad to hv helped you in realising your dreams!

I'm stilling seeing her but less frequently now - I'm in my 17 weeks doing well and keeping my fingers crossed.

If keen to know more about her, can read her information at Facebook / search for Yoga Inn. She is Mdm Valencia Tan( based at Waterloo Street).
 
ladies ~

do you have on and off cramps on uterus area say almost 2 weeks after? im wondering if it's the pull of the uterus contracting back or maybe cysts growing..(i might be thinking too much but all sorts of crazy thots comes to my mind)
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Hi Chrisl,

I do have a sharp pain after d/c. It lasts for weeks till my next menses came. Doc do a scan but say everything is fine. She said it might be just some muscle pull. Its on my left side near the pelvic area.
 
thanks Princessleopard..my pain was surprisingly gone since(same area you mentioned)..so cross fingers no more pain coming days..
 
Hi Chrisl,

It should be subsiding then. Hope you are recovering well. If your next menses come back normal, then you can start ttc again.

Take care!!
 
Hi All,

I am looking for a gynae who is experienced in managing Miscarriages... Had two MCs and am worried of getting MC again...

And also this TCM at AMK Dr Zou (something like tat). Anyone been to her before to make the body and womb stronger to have another baby.
 
Hi Mrs R,
Ive been thru twice too, and have been diligently researching for a gynae, but sad to say, there are good ones for infertility but not so on miscarriages.

I am with Dr Peter Chew, preferred him because I feel that he understands what a lost mean to a mother, no matter how early or late the pregnancy is..he is also willing to conduct the miscarriage tests unlike my previous gyneas who thought it was unnecessary unless a third time happens!?!? Heard that Dr Ann Tan is pretty good too. for your reference and consideration

Ive been thru some blood test and am cleared so far..waiting for CD21 to conduct test for progesterone now.

Hope to be able to share more and learn from one another what we need to do from now..

I have read a lot on taking baby aspirin to thin out the blood, though I've being tested negative for blood clotting disorder, just wondering if i can still take it to minimize any chance of mishap happening again..
 
Hi Beanbean,

Where is this Dr Peter Chew and Ann Tan from?

I am thinking of seeing Dr Adrian Woodworth who was my sister's gynae... Sometime ago I had some discharges after my AF, tested with the pregnancy kit faint line seen, so I went to him and he immediately prescribed me Dupaston but it turned out to be false alarm...

I have been also thinking about this baby aspirin thing for sometime now.... Maybe should see a gynae and make sure nothing is wrond before I try again....
 
Hi Mrs R,

Peter Chew is from glenE and Ann Tan from mtE. Their price can be a bit steep but i feel it's worth every cent.

Adrain Woodworth is the one in sengkang? I've read up on some forum and there are some gynaes who are good in pregnancy and delivery but they normally can't handle high risk pregnancy and miscarriages. I reckon my previous gynae, one at orchard area and the other from tmc are good with normal healthy pregnancy but can't give me the attention/explanation and test that i need.

Was it shortly after you had d/c that you tested positive on the test kit?

Ya!!! the baby aspirin thingy, I would really love to know more. Let's fill in each other ya ;) and if there's any kind soul who can enlighten us? would be most appreciative.

Anyone thinking of ttc?
 
Hi all, glad to find a local support group here. Hope to also find some advice/clarification to some of my questions below.

I underwent a D&amp;C procedure to terminate a missed pregnancy ironically on 14 Feb Valentine's Day. Scans showed a large amniotic sac but no heartbeat or growing fetus.

Once the D&amp;C bleeding/spotting stopped, I scheduled for a follow-up visit to the gyane which was about 2 weeks (11 days) from the procedure. I later found out that some gynaes advise patients to visit only after their 1st period cycle post D&amp;C. Was I too early for the visit?

I had the abdominal scan done during the follow-up visit. The scan confirmed that the abortion was complete and doctor gave an all clear. I then read that some patients do have their uterus, pelvis and cervix checked as well. The scan checks only the uterus/womb right? Am I missing a few stuff here?

Also, I heard conflicting views regarding intimacy after D&amp;C. Some refrain until their 1st period has passed, some have sexual intercourse once bleeding has stopped and as long as they feel fine.

Your views? Should I go for another follow-up check?
 
Dua Liap Belly
It depends on some people. After my 1st natural MC I saw the gynae 3 mths later and he gave me the green light to TTC. If u want to try TTC u can start after 1-3 mths after ur AF...
My 2cents worth...
Take care
 
Dua liap belly~
Nope not too early cos some docs just want to make sure there's no infection or such..then followed up scans checks for the womb only..regarding intimacy after D&amp;C, best refrain for 1 mth..else use condom as infection might occur..followed up checks no need think should be ok as long you don't feel unwell like cramps or strange bleedings now..
 
hi ladies, it is with a heavy heart that i post here. had a natural miscarriage on friday night. i was about 6 weeks, the whole sac slid out of me. i'm still very scared when i think about the whole experience -- it just seems so surreal.

mrs r, i'm with dr ww. he is a great obstetrician but he is not a doctor who has time for a high-risk pregnancy. when i started spotting, i was given the progesterone jab and duphaston, but i never got to see him. and so sadly, the only time i saw my pregnancy was when it was already too late
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i'm keen to see dr jin at fortune centre. anyone wants to be tcm buddy? i'm still wondering when to try again. i guess it will not be soon. have this horrid fear that the same thing will happen again.
 
Hi ladies,
There are drs trained to deal with high risk pregnancy...eg. have 2-3 miscarriages. some of them are in SGH. U can do a search and find out more on those Dr's.
Anyway I am going to see the TCM on thursday and one of the gynaes at SGH the following week....
I am sorry to hear about ur MC yaataa...Hugs
 
Hi Ling,
The gynae who was attending to me at KKH din offer any tests to be done, and he told me simply that I had a miscarriage....
Seems they wont do any test and wait for the 3rd MC to happen...
 
I'm sorry for the addition of some new faces. Take care and hope we can help each other thru this difficult dark period.

DLB: agrees with the rest that the timing for chk up/reviews and post lovemaking activity advice differ from gynea to gynea.

My second gynea who attended me for my 1st miscarriage saw me after 2 weeks for chit chat, did not scan on tummy, just chit chat and ask me to try again after 2 cycles.

Gynea for my 2nd miscarriage takes precaution in everything, was prescribe antibiotics and advised against intimacy and taking seafood for a month. He checked my tummy and cervix 3 days and again a month after procedure. Advised to start ttc-ing 3months later or after i did my tests.

Yaataa: Do start urself on a mini confinement. Is this ur first child?
I was with jin yi shi prior first miscarriage but had since left her.

Ling: the link was informative. thanks. so did you do any tests from nuh? care to share what type of test you do?
I did a number of tests but all came back negative. Just went for progesterone level checked this morning. Thinking what elsa i need to do or check.
 
<font color="aa00aa">Hi ladies!
So sorry to see new faces here.
Really hope that many would not need to join this group.

Mrs R,
is it becos govt hosps dont deem such tests as necessary?
I had 2 m/cs and my gynae did the mc profiling test on me.
For the third try, i was put on high alert..jabs and duphaston plus was on baby aspirin too.

Yaataa,
So very sorry to hear what happened.
Can understand the feeling cos my sac came out of me the second time round too.
An experience that i would never want to wish on anyone else.
Do bu your body back now.
Im sure the next time will not be the same.
Afterall u managed to get your miracle Brian rite?
His didi or meimei will be another miracle baby too..have faith.</font>
 
lynzi, can i chk with u if one must have special condition(eg antiphospholipid antibodies) in order to be given baby aspirin?

When I was doing bed rest prior 2nd mc, tcm sinseh keep asking me if the gynea prescribed me with aspirin coz she feels that my pulse was slow..

Any advice?
 
Yaataa~
I am so sorry to hear that..take time to heal (physically and emotionally) and also grieve over. It really helps crying out loud and talk about it (well it worked for me)..Are you doing any mini confinement now? It'll help in some ways to build up your body..Same for me, wondering and having all the fears if will affect next pregnancy..but then try to be positive girl! That's the only thing we could do to hope and have some faith..


Mrs R/Lynzi
My doc too, didn't even do any thing..well besides a scan but not even a BT..and thus this way i don't even know if my progesterone level is ok not etc..

i supposed that gov doc are getting paid anyway (i strongly think it is happening to many docs in gov hospitals) and on the other hand, pte docs earn by offering tests and other additional consultations..but as a person who has undergone MC, i would not mind paying for further tests to see what are the underlying reasons..it helps to filter out causes and we don't need to worry unnecessarily on the tests that are ok..


Ling ~
Thanks for the informative pdf file
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Hi Girls,

I myself is seeing a specialist at SGH and the endocrine doc have told me they have not much of a high risk O&amp;G clinic internally. I have also personally went to see SGH gynae only to be told congratulations I can get pregnant on my own and dont need help. My problem was keeping the pregnancy and apparently they didnt get it and so I never went back again.

At NUH is a different story. I manage to get an article from a newspaper think 1 year ago that highlighted their studies on going for high risk pregnancies. I was first send to see the rheumatologist doctor Dr Sheila who have so much patience for everyone to check if I made the cut to get tested further. Once I was in, my blood was tested and it is a lot of vial of blood..Every visit was 8-3 vial for a few times. there is an immense list of tests and they will prescribe whatever is necessary so you dont have to specifically ask them for the tests.

They couldnt exactly find anything wrong with me but I had a very high thyroid antibodies in my blood stream and that it was a possibility that this was hindering me on keeping the pregnancies. There is no guarantee that NUH but they can offer hope. I am also not saying NUH will be the correct way but if there was a clinic made available I will be more inclined to go to them then to cherry pick and hope the gynae we choose can help us. I am a subsidised patient with NUH but I think the level of professionalism shown to me was not any less of a private patient anywhere else.

It is not simple progesterone tests that they do as I didnt even have 1 done despite testing blood on so many occassion. Thus it is up to individual how you would want to proceed. It is also not a simple thing that an asprin or Duphaston can resolve for some so always see a doctor for full advise and never self medicate.

As for the TCM, I was with TCM for a good 1 year every week but they will never have any cure for my antibodies issues in my opinion. They can nurse your health back they can make sure your organs are performing at optimum level but thats about it.

Is a dark path that most of us have to go through recurrent miscarriages but keep the faith. The only think we lack is courage and I pray that we all can trod out the path in good stead.
 



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