daylesford
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Daylesford, check with you the grading 1-5 means the cavity / expansion?
http://www.inviafertility.com/blog/...h/understanding-the-blastocyst-grading-scale/
Daylesford, check with you the grading 1-5 means the cavity / expansion?
HOw is the injections like, the pen type or on the syringe type?
I am scared of needles.Dont be stressed ... injections come in various forms. So depending on the drugs and also the dosage. Only the FSH jab - gonalF is in pen form ... and also as you progress in the stims stage, there will be new drugs added on top of gonalf and some will be powered form mixed with solution before we syringe out and inject.
I had gone through a few stims cycle and my last stims i needed to combine a few different drugs into a single syringe and jab them from day 1 of my stims. So the drugs & dosages varies from patient And each cycle too.
Dr cheng will explain a summary of the expected during stims stage until ER or if u doing fresh transfer and he may add/adjust & prescribe the drugs after each visit and the nurses will teach u how to handle & administer the jabs.
I am scared of needles.Dont be stressed ... injections come in various forms. So depending on the drugs and also the dosage. Only the FSH jab - gonalF is in pen form ... and also as you progress in the stims stage, there will be new drugs added on top of gonalf and some will be powered form mixed with solution before we syringe out and inject.
I had gone through a few stims cycle and my last stims i needed to combine a few different drugs into a single syringe and jab them from day 1 of my stims. So the drugs & dosages varies from patient And each cycle too.
Dr cheng will explain a summary of the expected during stims stage until ER or if u doing fresh transfer and he may add/adjust & prescribe the drugs after each visit and the nurses will teach u how to handle & administer the jabs.
I am scared of needles.
By the way did Dr Cheng tell u the number of silent follicles during the baseline scan? He just told be good all quiet and no cyst ready for injections.
BOught the book you recommended, arrived yesterday.He would usually just show me the dark patches of antral-follicles and said we r good to start stims.
BOught the book you recommended, arrived yesterday.
Btw, today is the day 2, any I do not have any symptoms. Wonder if my body is responding.
Hi,dear. Thanks for the information. ☺See attached for the price list.
If you are younger than 40 you should try the public hospital as there is co payment scheme.
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Is your frozen embryo transfer forzenbat blastocyst stage?Hi,dear. Thanks for the information. ☺
I am same age with you. No gov fund. I have done two fresh ivf cycle in sgh. No ET yet. Have two freeze d2 embryo. May do FET at Nov. If i fail FET,may consider to chang to private hospital.
Everyone respond differently. I only started having symptoms because of high estrogen after 5-6days of jabs.
Good luck for ur stimulation and dont read too much into symptoms. Let nature takes it cause and u are under good hands of dr cheng and mefc.
Very strange, last month I have 6 follicles on Day 4 without simulation, this month only 2 with simulation.My simulation was abandon on Tuesday. only 2 follicles (3mm and 4mm day 6) left ovary and the lining was thin too.
Very strange, last month I have 6 follicles on Day 4 without simulation, this month only 2 with simulation.
Will try next month. Dr Cheng said will decide to go stimulation or natural later. He said if natural that means the patient accepted that she will have only one or two follicles.Our body produces different no. Of follicles each month... so i am not surprised on the different no. Of follicles each month.
Are u trying for another cycle ?
Will try next month. Dr Cheng said will decide to go stimulation or natural later. He said if natural that means the patient accepted that she will have only one or two follicles.
Wonder what is the difference between Mini and natural IVF.
mini - light oral pills like Clomid;Wonder what is the difference between Mini and natural IVF.
Hope the tcm is not doing more harm than good.
I didnt take DHEA before. Take these supplements based on your personal comfort level and also if u have any other under lying conditions, then better consult dr before you take them.
Were you on birth control pills before the simulation?
I suspect the Birth control pills affect over-suppressed me.
First scan on Day 4 scan without any medication and simulation shows 6 follicles.
Don’t know if this is the cause.
Dr did not say what he intend to do for the next cycle.
Hi Daylesford
Does Dr loh kim gek do accupunture too? I am thinking to switch to her. I was told by Dr assistance many of the patient who went to her got pregnant.
No dr Loh KG doesn't do acupuncture. Her treatment is solely brew tcm herbs. I go to dr zou for acupuncture. Yes and I had a friend with her who bfp with dr Cheng too.
Dr Zuo maybe too far for me and heard waiting time is long. Will Dr Loh refer any Dr for accupunture?
I am not sure but i doubt so since she practices internal tcm only & it has been proven that patients can get pregnant without acupuncture.
So it all depends on our individual body’s constitution and also if the person believes if one should also require tcm /acupuncture during ivf treatment.
Does your friend do accupunture with Dr Zou?
When did you do accupunture? Before (during injections) and after egg retrieval? During transplant?
why did you get the herbs from Dr Zou?
Yes... Also with dr zou. I did acupuncture for more than a year with dr zou and only stopped after ET.
I see. Before simulation do you had your accupunture sessions? To tiao the ovaries?
I also went to Dr Zhou for accupunture.
However, Im wondering if I should stop after my FET? Anyone continue to go even after FET?
Its up to your personal comfort if you will want to continue acupuncture after your ET.
Also u may want to check with yr ivf dr too.
Are u with dr lc cheng too ?
Usually the older we are, our egg quality will be compromised too. High FSH & low AMH means its diminished egg reserve but it doesn't necessarily equate to poor egg quality. For me, my egg quality was bad despite having low FSH and high AMH. And there is no way to know our egg quality till we do one cycle of stimulation. Anyway IVF is a gambling game... there is no one standard stimulation protocol which fits everyone. We just need a golden embryo & nice endometrium to make implantation happen.
For lifestyle change, i cut down alot of carbo and took more proteins and greens. Also cut down on sugary stuffs and eliminated caffeine, cold & cooling stuffs. Was also on a regular exercise regime to keep my weight at bay. Sleep early every night too.
Yes i was on CoQ10 - Ubiquinol before my last fresh cycle. I was also on TCM, acupuncture, blackmore conceive well ,5mg/folic acid & royal jelly.
We need to do our due diligence by researching on side effects on all these supplements which we buy online. Eg : royal jelly is not suitable for those ladies with cysts or growths etc.
Will recommend this book - It starts with the Egg by Rebecca Fett from Amazon. Its a good read on how we can improve our egg quality.
Yes if time is against u, u should consider doing time freezing / embryos banking prior 45. I had a friend also with dr cheng who did more than a cycle of stimulation and stored her blastocysts for subsequent usage. Shes now pregnant with twins too
Have you try Quinoas? Quite tastyEat like granny ???
For my diet pre stims and for fet preparation, i still take carbo in the morning. Lunch i would usually take oats, flexaseeds/flexmeal with chia seeds. Dinner will be more in proteins (high fat fish, lean meat, eggs) , salad with a little carbo.
I cut out all caffeine while preparing for my IVF stims cycle, fet and even in pregnancy.
Only difference in my diet was after 1st scan during my stimulation where i had many follicles i progressively increase my proteins intake to 10egg whites per day till the day prior my egg retrieval. Otherwise, just maintain a protein rich diet will do.
Will taking blackmore conceive well overlapped with other vitamins?
Yes ... i religiously went for twice a week of acupuncture for a more than a year.
I dont think acupuncture helps in egg quality. It helps us better ovulate, warm the womb and also helps with endo lining.
Hi, does it help you in thickening your lining? I am looking at acupuncture to thicken my pathetic lining.
For me i dont see significant improvement with acupuncture but everyone reacts differently with acupunture. so definitely no harm trying ..
Hi Sweet_BabySoul,
Sorry to hear your previous BFNs but hang in there for your upcoming bhcg.
I had always been on lucrin for my 3 trigger jabs as well as my 3 FETs with Dr Cheng.
Out of 3 FETs, 1 was BFN while 2 were BFPs. Lucrin used during FET is to suppress our body and just concentrate on endometrium growth.
I don't think the reason of our ovaries being over-suppressed will result BPN for FETs. Usually BPN are attributed due to 3 key reasons - 1) Embryos quality issues, 2) Immunology issues , 3) Uterus/ Endo lining issues.
I was with Dr Zou for acupuncture throughout all my IVF journey but I switched to Dr Loh Kim Gek for her TCM herbs for my latest FET in this April n her herbs worked miraculously on me.
I had thyroid issues and was worried that I may have elevated antibodies which prevents embryos from implanting. Prior to seeing Dr Shiela, I was talking to Dr Cheng on having Intralipids infusion too but aborted the idea. I was recommended to see Dr Shiela Vasoo who is an immunologists with specialization in sub-fertility at Mt E Novena.
She ran through a series of blood-works (5-6 tubes of blood) and true enough I had slight elevation of thyroid antibodies and was put on steroids - prednisolone 2 weeks prior my last FET and this FET cycle worked out and I am currently in Trimester 3.
Do you still have good quality frozen embryos with MEFC ?
5AAs are very good quality blastocysts. For your case where you had multiple failures despite transferring good grades blastocysts, I will recommend that you may want to consider seeing an immunologist to get immunology blood works done to make sure that there are no show stoppers from your body's immune system. Also, you may want to consider endo-scratch too...
Meanwhile Good Luck for your blood tests....
Hi, does it help you in thickening your lining? I am looking at acupuncture to thicken my pathetic lining.