What about the temp?
Omg a huge chunk came out and it’s the white colour meat membrane similar to when I had the blighted ovum miscarriage.. the cramp also similar like contractions..
Wah but your BT is negative? So cannot be the sac right?
Yea negative. Maybe it stopped developing even before hcg can be detected. But it’s scary cos it’s white membrane same as that time I miscarriage.. my usual period I don’t have such clots de. And this time was esp painful and intermittent pain. Sigh. I took a photo to show me doc for the review. Wanted to keep it to do testing but I also dunno how to keep it.
Your clot isit white one?
At 10dp5dt, you can do a home pregnancy test if you haven't done so already.
Not recommended lei.. and if BFP also try not...
I got my periods before BT on all my failed cycles. Even the successful one had spotting so the suppositories will not always stop the period.
i had spotting on 10dp5dt and went to do BT on day 11, got a negative, stopped progesterone and menses came with intensified pain and white clots tissues.
May I know how long do you guys typically wait before starting on the next ivf cycle?Do u have any frozen embryos? I think they say 2 cycles before restarting fresh..Thanks all for sharing
Unfortunately I don’t have any frozen embryos. They weren’t viable
Yours is a blastocyst? What grade isit? Sigh my grade b also fail I dunno when I will succeedUnfortunately I don’t have any frozen embryos. They weren’t viable
Yes blastocyst ! But I don’t know what’s the grade. Or maybe they told me and I forgot. Sad to say, I think ivf is simply a matter of luck. Not sure whether I want to try again so soon. The disappointment is crippling.Yours is a blastocyst? What grade isit? Sigh my grade b also fail I dunno when I will succeed
There are many reasons for fail implantation. Most common is chromosomes issues. Sometimes very good grade doesn’t mean will implant too.. each cycle is around 35-60% success rate as what I readYours is a blastocyst? What grade isit? Sigh my grade b also fail I dunno when I will succeed
U have your BT yet? Are u still inserting the progesterone gel? I think wait till the final result first then decide it could still be positive you never know.. Yea I’m having disappointment and sad now with my failed cycle sigh.
lildreams you do how many times ivf? How many rounds it takes for success? I’m really scared I can’t have baby even with ivf which is the most advance le.
With each cycle, chances increase. It's different for each person, there are so many variables, even doc don't know in most failed cases what goes wrong
Nurse told me to keep a gap of 12 hrs between both. I used to walk 15-20 min.
Lol I highly doubt my BT will be positive, looking at how much I’m bleeding now. Sigh what to do. But let’s be strong together and work towards our next cycle !! Hopefully it will be our turn next to see a BFP.
Did u ask them if u should stop your progesterone? I think still need to continue till u have an answer from your BT leh. Yes let’s stay strong tgt!
Nope they asked me to continue with both crinone + duphaston until BT. I think the medication is holding back the flow a little because it’s not as heavy as my period flow. Tried calling KKH just now to bring the BT up but I can never get through the phone lines ....
Warm shower is ok, didn't walk much after crinone insertion also ok. Don't blame yourself cos there really is nothing we can do to make the embryo implant and grow after ETNope they asked me to continue with both crinone + duphaston until BT. I think the medication is holding back the flow a little because it’s not as heavy as my period flow. Tried calling KKH just now to bring the BT up but I can never get through the phone lines ....
To mothers who succeeded, how did you guys shower? I’m also wondering whether my warm showers played a part in this disappointment or was it because I didn’t walk too much initially when I started with crinone.
Nope they asked me to continue with both crinone + duphaston until BT. I think the medication is holding back the flow a little because it’s not as heavy as my period flow. Tried calling KKH just now to bring the BT up but I can never get through the phone lines ....
To mothers who succeeded, how did you guys shower? I’m also wondering whether my warm showers played a part in this disappointment or was it because I didn’t walk too much initially when I started with crinone.
Warm showers should be ok. I doubt you are going to bathe with water that warm until you scald yourself or the foot soak kind of warm. There is very little control by you over whether implantation and growth will occur or not, except for those really strenuous exercises. So I believe, just proceed normally with some caution will be ok.Nope they asked me to continue with both crinone + duphaston until BT. I think the medication is holding back the flow a little because it’s not as heavy as my period flow. Tried calling KKH just now to bring the BT up but I can never get through the phone lines ....
To mothers who succeeded, how did you guys shower? I’m also wondering whether my warm showers played a part in this disappointment or was it because I didn’t walk too much initially when I started with crinone.
You can still have SI but use a condom to avoid infection. I did it after few days of postive BT at KKH.. had some brownish discharges but its normal after an SI.. continue pampering one another, tease and enjoy each other company.. appreciate the lil things your partner does for you. Only now at 37 weeks, DH abit scared to do SI and worried I will be in pain. So we stopped and just enjoy each other company..
I walked alot after the crinone gel insertion to allow maximum absorption. If not walking, i just do a marching movements in front of the TV as the rubbing motions helps with the absorption. My 1st cycle i always have black/brown discharge post crinone insertion. But my 2nd cycle, none discharges..Nope they asked me to continue with both crinone + duphaston until BT. I think the medication is holding back the flow a little because it’s not as heavy as my period flow. Tried calling KKH just now to bring the BT up but I can never get through the phone lines ....
To mothers who succeeded, how did you guys shower? I’m also wondering whether my warm showers played a part in this disappointment or was it because I didn’t walk too much initially when I started with crinone.
Actually they say u can just walk in to kkh same area to do BT that’s what I did on day 11 post transfer.Nope they asked me to continue with both crinone + duphaston until BT. I think the medication is holding back the flow a little because it’s not as heavy as my period flow. Tried calling KKH just now to bring the BT up but I can never get through the phone lines ....
To mothers who succeeded, how did you guys shower? I’m also wondering whether my warm showers played a part in this disappointment or was it because I didn’t walk too much initially when I started with crinone.
thanks for sharing and happy for you!
Thanks for the tip !! I’m gonna take the next few months to change my diet and prep for the next session. I reckon if I stick to KKH sure must wait for a few more months before can try again.
I was with Zou for some time, one time BFP, one time BFN. I only had accu though, didn't take her meds.
Jia you girl don’t give up give yourself a break and try again! I really admire all of us ladies here perservarance.
Nope they asked me to continue with both crinone + duphaston until BT. I think the medication is holding back the flow a little because it’s not as heavy as my period flow. Tried calling KKH just now to bring the BT up but I can never get through the phone lines ....
To mothers who succeeded, how did you guys shower? I’m also wondering whether my warm showers played a part in this disappointment or was it because I didn’t walk too much initially when I started with crinone.
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They did ask me if I want to continue and I thought it’s okay to since it’s just to boost internally. But I only did acupuncture twice after ET. Dr Zou said can’t do more than that. Maybe I should have just skipped the meds too. Thanks dear. I think when you’ve reached rock bottom, there’s nowhere to go but up. Want to give up also cannot. May I know where did you switch to for your acupuncture? And did it help after? Frankly I find Dr Zou quite pricey too.
I think with the meds its pricey. Anyway have a good rest and try again. IVF is a age game too.. so the younger u do, the higher chanceThanks ladies for all the kind words. This journey is really damn lonely so I’m glad I found this forum for solace ! My girlfriends have all been very lucky so far so while they empathize and are constantly checking on me, they don’t really understand the full extent too. So I find myself limiting what I share with them since they won’t understand entirely either.
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Thanks dear. I think when you’ve reached rock bottom, there’s nowhere to go but up. Want to give up also cannot. May I know where did you switch to for your acupuncture? And did it help after? Frankly I find Dr Zou quite pricey too.
Hi dear! Im 32 currently and had 2 fresh IVF done at 31 years old. Before that at 30 years old i did SO IUI x 1 which failed & at 27-28 years old I did clomid x 5 cycles all failed. I had a chemical pregnancy in 2019 Nov which I didn't know I conceive naturally. It was at 6 weeks.
Hi dear, thank you!
Egg quality increased alot and my Dr was super surprised to know I didn't have any OHSS despite 24 eggs retrieved. Hope this help!
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No worries dear! I took about 4-5 months break in between my 1st fresh cycle (April 2020) & my 2nd fresh cycle (Sept 2020). I didn't want to rush as it's taking a toll on my body and the hormone drugs. My KK Dr said i could start doing the next month after my 1st cycle failed but I mentioned to them I wanted to get a short break. And I didn't regret that decision. I got my period regular and change my diet.
I have PCOS with more than 12 immature eggs/cysts in my right & left ovaries. My AMH level is 9.2 which the Dr says I had too much eggs but that doesn't mean all are usable.. have a break.. relax and try again dear..I went to DR gee (she used to be from thomson tcm) but she now do home based. It’s even much more pricey but since I’ve known her and my friends around also went to her so I’ve been acupuncture by her for months. I haven’t succeed yet but I think if you are comfortable with dr zou u can continue just that I feel she is not very attentive to me when I was there. And seems like she always poked the same area with no adjustmentThanks ladies for all the kind words. This journey is really damn lonely so I’m glad I found this forum for solace ! My girlfriends have all been very lucky so far so while they empathize and are constantly checking on me, they don’t really understand the full extent too. So I find myself limiting what I share with them since they won’t understand entirely either.
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Thanks dear. I think when you’ve reached rock bottom, there’s nowhere to go but up. Want to give up also cannot. May I know where did you switch to for your acupuncture? And did it help after? Frankly I find Dr Zou quite pricey too.
I tried clomid once too. Thinking back i wonder whats the success rate for clomid?Hi dear! Im 32 currently and had 2 fresh IVF done at 31 years old. Before that at 30 years old i did SO IUI x 1 which failed & at 27-28 years old I did clomid x 5 cycles all failed. I had a chemical pregnancy in 2019 Nov which I didn't know I conceive naturally. It was at 6 weeks.
Hi dear, thank you!
My 1st cycle, i didnt do anything different.. i was diagnosed with Pre Diabetes (DM) with HBA1C level of 8.0mmol/L early Jan 2020 which is unacceptable in the range. Before doing IVF in April 2020, they want your HBA1C level to be less than 7mmol/L to prevent complications and my HBA1C was 6.7mmol/L. Still not too good but we went along. I didn't pantang on whatever meal I had. Sugary, sodas, fried items.. And no supplement taken except for Folic Acids & Metformin for DM. Its a failed cycle with only 2 blastocyst and bleeding before BT. OHSS were extremely bad post ER.. i didnt take any high protein food as advice.
When I decide to do my 2nd fresh cycle, 2 months before i started taking in:
- Blackmore's Conceive Well tablets x 2 months
- Folic Acids
- No cold beverage/Sugary drinks (Sodas/Juices)
- No Caffeine (Tea/Ice Lemon tea/Latte)
- Increase Warm Water Intake daily
- Increase Hot Fresh Soya Milk Drink 25% to no sugar (Daily)
- Increase Hot Red Dates Longan / Hot Ginger Tea in evening alternate once a day. I drink at Lunch.
- Wear socks at night to bed & warm womb with hot pad 2 days before ET.
- I ate alot of Soupy dishes like Spinach, Hotpot with veggies & Tofu/beancurds
- Post ER, i took Hot Soya Milk, Chicken Breast/Fillet, Tofu, Beancurd with less sugar, Egg whites Omelette till ET day (Day 5 post ER)
- I took Pregnancy Formula Milk (Nature's One Pregnancy) before bed.
I actually lost 5-7kg from 80kg to 75kg before ER from doing this without any exercise much as my work requires me to move about alot.. Now currently at 38 weeks i am at 77kg- 78kg with baby at 2.9kg estimated so the weight gain is more to lil one. My HBA1C is at 6.3mmol/L during my TWW and currently at 38 weeks HBA1C at 5.3mmol/L which is very good!
Also, i do have a blog where I update from my Clomid cycle back in 2018 till now..
That's What She Said
Keep reading if you find it interesting... Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.
I recorded the types of drugs I was given for all cycles, the egg sizes & linings for each scan visits, payments, prices etcs.. hope this give u ladies some ideas!
Hope it helps!
Hi dear, please dont give up. I also failed my 1st fresh cycle.. and my embryo is ungradeable. I only have 1 blasto to freeze but poor quality and definitely heartbreaking, i wanted to give up as well. 5mths later I decide to try again 2nd fresh cycle.. the 1st cycle is usually a trial cycle where the Dr can see how u response to certain hormone drugs.. i started with Gonal F & Ganirelix but its unsuccessful. Then 2nd cycle Gonal F, Ganirelix & Menopur. Successful with balance blasto freeze. Hang in there!
They say 7% to 30% and is used by blocking estrogen production. Usually given to PCOS to increase the chance. And clomid with PCOS can increase multiple pregnancy. It gets better when u do 2 to 3 more cycle. But for me seems like its not responding. Plus its pretty stressful when the BD schedule is every 2 days.. hehehe..
