IVF/ICSI Support Group

My amh about 10.. it is at borderline according to Dr. So, i could not waste my time.. i bought ubiquinol & rosytime, will consume them together with folic acid & vitamin D.. hope it helps..
Forgot to say.. i ate eggs nearly everyday during stimulation and meat since i try to conceive 2 years ago.
 


I have been taking multi vit for abt 3 mths. But I took ubiquinol only after knowing no embryos to transfer due to poor egg quality. Doc did not discourage taking but told me there is no studies that it helps improve egg quality. I'm taking it for 1 mth already. Not sure will improve anot but take better than not taking. Hope my next fresh cycle has better eggs.
Same to me. I started it today.. going to take whatever i can and start exercise more. Hope next cycle will have better egg quality.. plan for next cycle in 3 months time
 
May I know what type of injection u took? My first cycle also poor egg quality and Dr added in additional growth hormone injection for better quality. Going for ER on Monday, will see if there is any improvement.
Pls posted the update after ER. I really hope hormon dosage will help our problem..
 
I was on puregon & menopur for 14 days. Egg growth a bit slow .. day 5 only 6 eggs seen; day 10 finally saw 10 eggs but size were small at 15mm. So dr prescribed another 4 days of injection (menopur) until trigger at 14th day.


Actually to reach 15mm at stimm day 10 is honestly not bad. All growing uniformly (albeit slowly) is still better than having 1-3 leading follicles growing way ahead of others... just mean extending stimm period, rather than at a crossroad to choose whether to ‘sacrifice’ them. Think the focus now is to work on quality. 加油! May want to change to gonal f for your next IVF. I don’t have good experience with puregon /menopur. Used them for SO-IUIs separately.
 
Hi Sisters! Seek your advise ? Just see the doctor check blood test report shown that my blood glucose tolerance is poor got a bit diabetic ask me to see their specialist doctor in KK before proceed to IVF. Feel so upset in my heart why Bec got slight diabetic I cannot start IVF! Doctor said until my blood sugar is back to normal then can proceed IVF ! .
Because if diabetic, risk of miscarriage is increased, according to a doc I see in nuh. But blood glucose test is not routinely done b4 IVF though.. just wondering how come ur doc asked u to do
 
Actually to reach 15mm at stimm day 10 is honestly not bad. All growing uniformly (albeit slowly) is still better than having 1-3 leading follicles growing way ahead of others... just mean extending stimm period, rather than at a crossroad to choose whether to ‘sacrifice’ them. Think the focus now is to work on quality. 加油! May want to change to gonal f for your next IVF. I don’t have good experience with puregon /menopur. Used them for SO-IUIs separately.
My tcm practitioner also advise me to try on gonalF since i was prescribed puregon for 2xSO-IUI ( failed) and the 1st IVF cycle. Do you know whether KK will prescribed gonalF for patient? Because my dr onky give puregon..
 
Hi To all Sisters! My heart really feel very upset especially when the doctor tell you got Low ovarian reserve the high chances only can use donor eggs ! She said even I try IVF percentage is not so high ! Singapore where got donor eggs! Of course I wish can use my own egg is the best ! Deep in my heart praying to God blessing me a baby ! Let me have a chance to be a mother ! Whenever I think of baby , every night I sleep my tears will keep on flowing! Meet a lot obstacle just want to have baby! Praying God just gave me one baby I am contented!
 
Hi To all Sisters! My heart really feel very upset especially when the doctor tell you got Low ovarian reserve the high chances only can use donor eggs ! She said even I try IVF percentage is not so high ! Singapore where got donor eggs! Of course I wish can use my own egg is the best ! Deep in my heart praying to God blessing me a baby ! Let me have a chance to be a mother ! Whenever I think of baby , every night I sleep my tears will keep on flowing! Meet a lot obstacle just want to have baby! Praying God just gave me one baby I am contented!
Hi how old are u and how long have u tried? I also have low ovarian reserve for my age.
 
Hi To all Sisters! My heart really feel very upset especially when the doctor tell you got Low ovarian reserve the high chances only can use donor eggs ! She said even I try IVF percentage is not so high ! Singapore where got donor eggs! Of course I wish can use my own egg is the best ! Deep in my heart praying to God blessing me a baby ! Let me have a chance to be a mother ! Whenever I think of baby , every night I sleep my tears will keep on flowing! Meet a lot obstacle just want to have baby! Praying God just gave me one baby I am contented!

Did you do any laparoscopy? Did your amh level decrease because of any operation?
 
None transfer for my 1st fresh cycle. 2 embryo reach blastocycsts at D7 but unable to grade. So nothing to transfer. Waiting for my 2nd fresh next month.
Is there any special reason y they want to culture till D7? Cause D5 is already gd for trf.

U wld b doing yr 2nd fresh so soon? I will be resting for another 3-4mths before trying. The jabs r really terror to my body. In the meantime, i will take dhea, coq10 etc. Anyone tried revosit?
 
I just did the egg retrieval 2 days ago.. 10 eggs but all found abno


Hmmm. I just done my ER this wednesday. Out of 10, 9 abnormal and 1 underwent icsi. However, it did not split at D2, which is today. Dr advise to keep it until day 5 because he can see the disappointment from me and my husband. At my age of 32 it is unexpected. Overall my egg quality very poor. Dr even suggest me to do further ivf at KK or any subsidised hospital. Maybe some sister help can give advise on how could i improve my egg quality?? I cried hours.. non stop.. like no help..
Hi, I was in the same situation as u. 1 egg was graded scored of 1 (out of 5), they just monitor until D5 to see if it improves. It didnt, so we didnt proceed with the trf. No pt incurring the egg trf cost, and spend 2ww for nothing for my case.

Is this yr 1st cycle, which clinic r u with? I was super sad for my first cycle and much calmer, although still sad, for my 2nd which i didnt get any ET at all.
 
May I know what type of injection u took? My first cycle also poor egg quality and Dr added in additional growth hormone injection for better quality. Going for ER on Monday, will see if there is any improvement.
What was the additional jab? For me, i took gonalf for 1st cycle, 6 eggs out of 6 follicles retrieved (i hv low amh). 2 out of 6 eggs fertilised but only 1 made it to early blast for et.

2nd cycle, i did long protocol with gonalf n menupur, 4 eggs out of 8 follicled retrieved (i dunno y so many empty follicles). 4 fertilised but none made it to et. Seems like menupur doesnt suit me.
 
Hi ladies! I just did ER and managed to have 18 eggs compared to my first cycle of 12. Doctor recommended to do FET due to high level of hcg and progesterone levels in my body. Can I check if anyone has delayed ET with the same reason? Also how to prepare for FET?
 
Is there any special reason y they want to culture till D7? Cause D5 is already gd for trf.

U wld b doing yr 2nd fresh so soon? I will be resting for another 3-4mths before trying. The jabs r really terror to my body. In the meantime, i will take dhea, coq10 etc. Anyone tried revosit?
The embryo were growing slow. So at D5, they have not reach blastocyst. So doc said wait for 2 more days. Then at D7, blastocysts not good for transfer.
Yes, no time to waste as i'm already 39 this yr. Every cycle is a chance. I'm betting the chance on ivf instead of natural conceive as my egg quality is poor. I'm ok with the jabs. The pain is tolerable for me. So far no side effects for my 1st cycle. Hope the 2nd will go well too.
 
Did you do any laparoscopy? Did your amh level decrease because of any operation?
No! My both Fallopian tube is blocked ! Doctor said can just remove polyps will do before I do IVF ! Feel that I might not got a chance to have a baby Bec got Low egg Overian ! Doctor suggest it best get egg donor but in Singapore where to get donor ! It was impossible ! My dreams to have a baby it seem impossible ! Feel sad and devastated !
 
No! My both Fallopian tube is blocked ! Doctor said can just remove polyps will do before I do IVF ! Feel that I might not got a chance to have a baby Bec got Low egg Overian ! Doctor suggest it best get egg donor but in Singapore where to get donor ! It was impossible ! My dreams to have a baby it seem impossible ! Feel sad and devastated !
Be positive! Blocked tubes can conceive baby too. Have to keep trying:)
 
Hi, I was in the same situation as u. 1 egg was graded scored of 1 (out of 5), they just monitor until D5 to see if it improves. It didnt, so we didnt proceed with the trf. No pt incurring the egg trf cost, and spend 2ww for nothing for my case.

Is this yr 1st cycle, which clinic r u with? I was super sad for my first cycle and much calmer, although still sad, for my 2nd which i didnt get any ET at all.
Yea, this is my first. My only fertilised egg didnt make it to split. That is to said. Out of 10, i have no embroy. But i wont give up. I think my amh is acceptable eventhough it is low. The problem is quality. Plan to change to Tan Siew Buoy TCM. Anyone got any experience in TCM Tan siewbuoy?
 
What was the additional jab? For me, i took gonalf for 1st cycle, 6 eggs out of 6 follicles retrieved (i hv low amh). 2 out of 6 eggs fertilised but only 1 made it to early blast for et.

2nd cycle, i did long protocol with gonalf n menupur, 4 eggs out of 8 follicled retrieved (i dunno y so many empty follicles). 4 fertilised but none made it to et. Seems like menupur doesnt suit me.
Your long protocol means injection longer than 10 days?? Mine was 14 days injection because dr said my egg grow slow.. but my tcm practitioner told me normally they only suggest to inkect for 9-11 days.
 
Hi ladies! I just did ER and managed to have 18 eggs compared to my first cycle of 12. Doctor recommended to do FET due to high level of hcg and progesterone levels in my body. Can I check if anyone has delayed ET with the same reason? Also how to prepare for FET?
May i ask whether dosage increase bringing better quantity & quality of eggs?..... dr will suggest FET if you have lots of egg since injected hormon will affect implantation.
 
Yea, this is my first. My only fertilised egg didnt make it to split. That is to said. Out of 10, i have no embroy. But i wont give up. I think my amh is acceptable eventhough it is low. The problem is quality. Plan to change to Tan Siew Buoy TCM. Anyone got any experience in TCM Tan siewbuoy?

I personally find her overrated - long queues, attitude issues and don’t really work for me. There are other better TCM physicians out there. Then again, it is a personal opinion and experience from seeing her some years ago.
 
May i ask whether dosage increase bringing better quantity & quality of eggs?..... dr will suggest FET if you have lots of egg since injected hormon will affect implantation.
Oh I see. My previous cycle I only have 4 eggs to freeze and this round I have 7. Dr did say the diff types of injection and dosage will help to improve the quality, didn't mention the quantity.
 
Your long protocol means injection longer than 10 days?? Mine was 14 days injection because dr said my egg grow slow.. but my tcm practitioner told me normally they only suggest to inkect for 9-11 days.
Long protocol requires u to jab lucrin for abt 14 to 21 days before u can start stim drugs. That said, i think the Dr didnt give me suitable drugs n hence, my egg quality is compromised
 
I personally find her overrated - long queues, attitude issues and don’t really work for me. There are other better TCM physicians out there. Then again, it is a personal opinion and experience from seeing her some years ago.
Ok. My appointment with her will be 4 months later!!!!!
 
Long protocol requires u to jab lucrin for abt 14 to 21 days before u can start stim drugs. That said, i think the Dr didnt give me suitable drugs n hence, my egg quality is compromised
Actually i did consumed 21 days of progesteron before stim, because dr found 1 big follicle growing before the stim. Then start with 14 days stim. I hope my poor egg quality is due to protocol but not inherent...
 
Hi good afternoon everyone I have been doing ivf for past 2 years but still not getting any good results did 2 fresh and 1 Fet . All at Kk. First fresh Er 17 only 2 make it for Et so I only Et 1 embryo for first time and I got 1 to frozen So sad both also Bpn. And this time third Time for ivf doing fresh had er 14 also only two make it for et dr said this time we try two and I agree. It still my tww but i already feel my menses is coming. So sad I feel like crying and don’t know what when wrong. I already try what I can do taking supplements go Tom acupuncture do yoga and massage and dr recommend me to do scratch test I did, but still don’t get good new. Should I change to other hospitals or stay if I want to try again?
 
Hi good afternoon everyone I have been doing ivf for past 2 years but still not getting any good results did 2 fresh and 1 Fet . All at Kk. First fresh Er 17 only 2 make it for Et so I only Et 1 embryo for first time and I got 1 to frozen So sad both also Bpn. And this time third Time for ivf doing fresh had er 14 also only two make it for et dr said this time we try two and I agree. It still my tww but i already feel my menses is coming. So sad I feel like crying and don’t know what when wrong. I already try what I can do taking supplements go Tom acupuncture do yoga and massage and dr recommend me to do scratch test I did, but still don’t get good new. Should I change to other hospitals or stay if I want to try again?
Maybe you will get positive result this round. Pray hard..
 
Hi! I experienced chemical pregnancy twice (once is Dec 2019 - Transferred 1 Blastocyst and currently experiencing another chemical pregnancy- Transferred 2 blastocysts). Not sure is it because of chromosome abnormalities or my body too weak to hold the pregnancy.

Planning to go for tcm to build up my body before trying for the next FET because i always have cold limbs...Any recommendations for tcm please?
 
Hi good afternoon everyone I have been doing ivf for past 2 years but still not getting any good results did 2 fresh and 1 Fet . All at Kk. First fresh Er 17 only 2 make it for Et so I only Et 1 embryo for first time and I got 1 to frozen So sad both also Bpn. And this time third Time for ivf doing fresh had er 14 also only two make it for et dr said this time we try two and I agree. It still my tww but i already feel my menses is coming. So sad I feel like crying and don’t know what when wrong. I already try what I can do taking supplements go Tom acupuncture do yoga and massage and dr recommend me to do scratch test I did, but still don’t get good new. Should I change to other hospitals or stay if I want to try again?

Can I ask if the Dr did differently for the cycles? For instance, changed the hormone injections and dosage? Or use blastgen to cultivate better quality embryos?

Is not a easy journey and you are not alone! I have failed 1 ivf cycle with 4 5 days blastocyst (transferred 1 fresh and 2 FETS). I took no pay leave just to focus on the 2nd cycle. Just finished my 2nd cycle with 7 5 days blastocysts. Dr did changed the injections and added in growth hormone injections. We just need to be positive and one day we will get BFP :) jiayou and don't give up! The side effects of BFP including symptoms before mens! Pray hard for you...

May I know your age?
 
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Can I ask if the Dr did differently for the cycles? For instance, changed the hormone injections and dosage? Or use blastgen to cultivate better quality embryos?

Is not a easy journey and you are not alone! I have failed 1 ivf cycle with 4 5 days blastocyst (transferred 1 fresh and 2 FETS). I took no pay leave just to focus on the 2nd cycle. Just finished my 2nd cycle with 7 5 days blastocysts. Dr did changed the injections and added in growth hormone injections. We just need to be positive and one day we will get BFP :) jiayou and don't give up! The side effects of BFP including symptoms before mens! Pray hard for you...

May I know your age?
Which dr r u with? Any idea how he decides what stim drugs to give u?
 
Which dr r u with? Any idea how he decides what stim drugs to give u?
Am with SGH. After the failed cycle, Dr changed the hormone injection to menopur and added in growth hormone injection too. This means I need to inject twice a day instead of once a day. Previous cycle I took gonal F but my body didn't response well so Dr suggested to change it.

Also included blastgen to cultivate the embryo for better quality. I did differently for second cycle and did see improvements.
 
Hihi, can I ask if any ladies tried to do ovulation test the cycle after ur ER? We are going to do FET likely next month so thought of trying natural for this month but its already day 16 and I have yet to see a smiley face. Not sure if the hormone jabs will mess up our ovulation cycle?
 
Hihi, can I ask if any ladies tried to do ovulation test the cycle after ur ER? We are going to do FET likely next month so thought of trying natural for this month but its already day 16 and I have yet to see a smiley face. Not sure if the hormone jabs will mess up our ovulation cycle?
Yes i did and it was delayed for 1 week. I got a positive on D20 instead of the usual D12. I thot i'm not gg to ovulate aft all the hormone injection. So no worries. Keep testing everyday.
 
Yes i did and it was delayed for 1 week. I got a positive on D20 instead of the usual D12. I thot i'm not gg to ovulate aft all the hormone injection. So no worries. Keep testing everyday.
Oh thanks for sharing. I started testing since Day 11 cuz there are times when I ovulate early, today is Day 16 and still no smiley face yet so got abit worried.
Alright I shall continue to test!
 
Can I ask if the Dr did differently for the cycles? For instance, changed the hormone injections and dosage? Or use blastgen to cultivate better quality embryos?

Is not a easy journey and you are not alone! I have failed 1 ivf cycle with 4 5 days blastocyst (transferred 1 fresh and 2 FETS). I took no pay leave just to focus on the 2nd cycle. Just finished my 2nd cycle with 7 5 days blastocysts. Dr did changed the injections and added in growth hormone injections. We just need to be positive and one day we will get BFP :) jiayou and don't give up! The side effects of BFP including symptoms before mens! Pray hard for you...

May I know your age?
Hi yes dr did change the injection first fresh was injected puregon can’t remember the dosage I think is 325 seconds fresh change to menopur 375 and dr ask me to do scratch test. I am now 40 and percent of getting baby is Low. Thanks for your encouragement I will not keep up this time maybe charge supplements and try other things may good for me.
 
Hi do you know M’sia which fertility clinic we can get donor egg? Feel sad doctor said for those Low egg overian is best getdonor egg then the percentage is higher when doing IVF. This is my last resort !
I havent explored on this... This wil be my last resort as well..hope we dont need to go for this extend. for this moment pls dont give up... lets work hard & jia you together.
 
Hi yes dr did change the injection first fresh was injected puregon can’t remember the dosage I think is 325 seconds fresh change to menopur 375 and dr ask me to do scratch test. I am now 40 and percent of getting baby is Low. Thanks for your encouragement I will not keep up this time maybe charge supplements and try other things may good for me.
Jiayou jiayou! We will get BFP one day if we never give up :)
 
I just failed my second IVF cycle. I feel so sad because I had a bit of hope this round would work. It was C grade blastocyst but thawed well and became fully expanded before the transfer. But yet, my AF came the night before blood test.

I feel so sad thinking I had killed 2 embryos so far already this year that can survive in petri dish or even in freezer but die inside me. Does anyone else ever feel this way?

Since 2018, I changed my diet, exercised, ate more protein, ate all the supplements, yet my egg quality is so poor. Although 10-11 eggs can be retrieved each time, I can’t grow beyond 1 or 2 C grade blastocyst for each cycle. I just have to expect this is fact of life of women’s ageing. I am 37. I also feel so guilty for not looking into IVF earlier.

Going to take a break until next year or when I feel ready to tackle my final cycle under government grant. Thinking also whether to change doctor (I have been under Dr Jessie Phoon for 1 failed SO IUI and the past 2 IVF cycles already). But I do like her and the KK Nurses too.

1st cycle, Feb 2020: Puregon
- 11 eggs became 1 day 5 (C) and 1 day 6 (C)
- fresh transfer of 1 day 5 = failed

2nd fresh cycle, Jul 2020: higher dose Puregon + Menopur
- 10 eggs became 1 day 5 (C)
- frozen transfer of 1 day 5 in Sept 2020 = failed

- 1 frozen day 6(C) left from first cycle

just wanted to release my emotions as I don’t have anyone else to talk to except my husband.
 
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I just failed my second IVF cycle. I feel so sad because I had a bit of hope this round would work. It was C grade blastocyst but thawed well and became fully expanded before the transfer. But yet, my AF came the night before blood test.

I feel so sad thinking I had killed 2 embryos so far already this year that can survive in petri dish or even in freezer but die inside me. Does anyone else ever feel this way?

Since 2018, I changed my diet, exercised, ate more protein, ate all the supplements, yet my egg quality is so poor. Although 10-11 eggs can be retrieved each time, I can’t grow beyond 1 or 2 C grade blastocyst for each cycle. I just have to expect this is fact of life of women’s ageing. I am 37. I also feel so guilty for not looking into IVF earlier.

Going to take a break until next year or when I feel ready to tackle my final cycle under government grant. Thinking also whether to change doctor (I have been under Dr Jessie Phoon for 1 failed SO IUI and the past 2 IVF cycles already). But I do like her and the KK Nurses too.

1st cycle, Feb 2020: Puregon
- 11 eggs became 1 day 5 (C) and 1 day 6 (C)
- fresh transfer of 1 day 5 = failed

2nd fresh cycle, Jul 2020: higher dose Puregon + Menopur
- 10 eggs became 1 day 5 (C)
- frozen transfer of 1 day 5 in Sept 2020 = failed

- 1 frozen day 6(C) left from first cycle

just wanted to release my emotions as I don’t have anyone else to talk to except my husband.


Sometimes is better for the bad quality egg to fail at the starting stage rather than MC. I always remind myself this so as to pick myself up again. The ivf journey is difficult and you have done your very best! I realised diff govt hospitals will suggest differently after the failed cycle. I am with SGH and just completed 2 cycles.

May 2019 - G gonal only
12 eggs became 4 eggs (5-day blastocyst and with 2 grade C)
-failed my first cycle
-work stress

Sep 2020 - Menopur + growth hormone + blastgen
18 eggs became 7 eggs (5-day blastocyst and 1 grade C)
-took a year break from work to focus on ivf.
-Since feb, on a daily basis - soak my feet in hot herbal water, heat pad on my womb for blood circulation, eat supplements such as myo-folate, eat veg and fruits, fertility yoga for 20 mins, wear socks to sleep, no cold drinks, drink red dates and wolfberries water, drink pomegranate juice and maintain a positive mind. Also acupuncture and use castor oil pack on monthly basis.

Currently waiting for FET because my hormone level was very high for the last cycle. Dr suggested PGS if I failed the 2nd cycle. I think my 2nd cycle has improved which is why I want to share all these with you. I was as depressed as u too.

Maybe you can try methods to improve blood flow to uterus? My TCM sinseh advise that blood circulation is impt to produce good quality embryo.

If you think your current hospital is not suggesting effective solutions for you. You may want to change hospital soon? Age is catching up and we will not want to waste time. If I fail my 2nd cycle, I will consider to switch to private hospital.

BTW, I am 35 this year.

Jiayou!
 

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I just failed my second IVF cycle. I feel so sad because I had a bit of hope this round would work. It was C grade blastocyst but thawed well and became fully expanded before the transfer. But yet, my AF came the night before blood test.

I feel so sad thinking I had killed 2 embryos so far already this year that can survive in petri dish or even in freezer but die inside me. Does anyone else ever feel this way?

Since 2018, I changed my diet, exercised, ate more protein, ate all the supplements, yet my egg quality is so poor. Although 10-11 eggs can be retrieved each time, I can’t grow beyond 1 or 2 C grade blastocyst for each cycle. I just have to expect this is fact of life of women’s ageing. I am 37. I also feel so guilty for not looking into IVF earlier.

Going to take a break until next year or when I feel ready to tackle my final cycle under government grant. Thinking also whether to change doctor (I have been under Dr Jessie Phoon for 1 failed SO IUI and the past 2 IVF cycles already). But I do like her and the KK Nurses too.

1st cycle, Feb 2020: Puregon
- 11 eggs became 1 day 5 (C) and 1 day 6 (C)
- fresh transfer of 1 day 5 = failed

2nd fresh cycle, Jul 2020: higher dose Puregon + Menopur
- 10 eggs became 1 day 5 (C)
- frozen transfer of 1 day 5 in Sept 2020 = failed

- 1 frozen day 6(C) left from first cycle

just wanted to release my emotions as I don’t have anyone else to talk to except my husband.
Hugs and jia you. I know its not easy, try to stay positive as much as you can..
 

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