IUI/SO-IUI: Anyone?

Noop

Member
I didn’t have any appointment for review cos my doctor, Dr Jessie Phoon and I already planned we will go straight to IVF if IUI fails. I guess the doctors will have different arrangements for patients, whether to review or not?
Did you do only one iui? I asked my Dr how many cycles she recommends she just said let's take one step at a time we talk when the time comes
 

RelaxBear

New Member
My 2nd iui attempt failed. Period came while i went Batam w family last week. I'm so depressed and can't even find the energy to cry now. I'm considering going for diagonistic tests (encouraged by my OBGYN) and hubby says to take a break first for now.. well, I'll have to, since i was overseas and couldn't go to my OBGYN on period day 2.

To all the mummies to be who have just had your iui insemination, pray you'll have baby dust and good news!
 

StayingPositive

New Member
@StayingPositive i think SO-IUI can be done back to back. But needs to start on Day 2 of your period cycle for oral meds. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!
Ah to update, what happened was I went back to KK on day 2 of my period, and they did a scan for me. In the scan, they found that there was still some cyst like thingie (cannot rmb the actual term) due to the 'leftover injections' in my body and hence cannot proceed to try for this cycle :(

Then KKIVF centre not available for SOIUI from 6 Jan to 20 Jan. Haiz I really want to try again for SOIUI instead of waiting till Feb leh. So I have made an appointment at TFC to find out more about their processes and cost. Though the thing is... TFC moving to Paragon, and they still waiting for some licensing, probably mid Jan then will get. Hopefully just in time for my period cycle.
 

StayingPositive

New Member
My 2nd iui attempt failed. Period came while i went Batam w family last week. I'm so depressed and can't even find the energy to cry now. I'm considering going for diagonistic tests (encouraged by my OBGYN) and hubby says to take a break first for now.. well, I'll have to, since i was overseas and couldn't go to my OBGYN on period day 2.

To all the mummies to be who have just had your iui insemination, pray you'll have baby dust and good news!
Dont give up! Maybe a break will be good too, dont be too stressed. Jiayou!
 

iibears

Member
Hi everyone, just wanted to share my experience with SO-IUI. After TTC for 5 years, hubby and i finally decided to try SO-IUI. We saw Dr SF Loh who concluded that our infertility was unexplained. We then started our fertility journey and now are parents to 3 kids (nope, they are not triplets)! I have gone through 3 successful SO-IUI for my pregnancies, thanks to Dr Loh! Will highly recommend him! Baby dust to all!
Hi Vivng! Can I ask how many cycles you did in total?
 

Rine_YM

Member
Hi Moon08, I just did my first SO IUI at Kkh, was referred by polyclinic and doctor is Dr Chua Ka Hee. Did the usual blood tests (i.e whether if I'm ovaluating etc...), SA followed by HSG and was given all clear before we proceed to SO IUI. He gave us 3 options, continue to try natural way since all results were good, iui or SO IUI but due to age we decided to go with SO IUI.

Started first cycle early December, had to jab myself with Puregon to help follicles grow, went back KKH 3 to 4 times for scan to check on follicles and had to do additional shots to stop ovulation. And finally on the last 3 days before the procedure itself trigger shot and then the procedure.

It's correct that the procedure will not be administered by the Dr we are with but it was one of the doctors whom we saw during our follow-ups post scans. Overall process took less than 10 mins and I rested for around 30 mins and went home.

Now in my TTW have to go back for blood test 30 Dec.

The nurses on site are all really nice and friendly so need not worry!
Nice! I'm on my tww too.. seeing my gynae on 30th also but by right my period suppose to come today and have not come yet. I tested this morning but is -ve. Trying not to think too much and wait till 30th Dec. How many days PIUI are you at?
 

iibears

Member
Nice! I'm on my tww too.. seeing my gynae on 30th also but by right my period suppose to come today and have not come yet. I tested this morning but is -ve. Trying not to think too much and wait till 30th Dec. How many days PIUI are you at?
I'm 13DPIUI, menses due 29 Dec but had some spotting yesterday so likely this cycle didn't work out. Guess will have to go for another cycle!

I thought my menses will be delayed cuz had the impression duphaston delays period but somehow mine feels like its coming earlier.

Jia you and good luck for your results!
 

Rine_YM

Member
I'm 13DPIUI, menses due 29 Dec but had some spotting yesterday so likely this cycle didn't work out. Guess will have to go for another cycle!

I thought my menses will be delayed cuz had the impression duphaston delays period but somehow mine feels like its coming earlier.

Jia you and good luck for your results!
It's like it wont work for me tooo.... i saw some brown spotting just only...
 

iibears

Member
It's like it wont work for me tooo.... i saw some brown spotting just only...
Mine was yellowish brown yesterday then suddenly abit of bright red then today watery sorry if its tmi!

I'm required to go back to kkh for mandatory urine test on 30th, if we wanna start 2nd cycle can we do so on 30th or have to wait for next doctor's appointment? I think 30th is my heavy flow day.
 

Evelyn5248

New Member
hi ladies,I did my SO IUI with KKH start from 13rd Dec being prescribed with 50mg preuregon. On 6th day -1st review,the egg is growing slow at only max 8mm,7mm and 6mm. hence,increased the dosage to 75mg. 2nd review on 8th day, 2 eggs growing to 11mm and continue with 75mg dosage till 11th day,only 1 egg continue to grow to 15mm and 11mm remained the same. so doc have decided to prescribe to 100mg preuregon and 0.25mg Ganerelix to prepare for 27 Dec IUI dissemination. My egg growing slower than other according to my IVF friends. Now I have taken leave to rest at home and just bought drip chicken essense today to start to drink after I done my IUI tomorrow. anyone share the same with me?
 

Noop

Member
hi ladies,I did my SO IUI with KKH start from 13rd Dec being prescribed with 50mg preuregon. On 6th day -1st review,the egg is growing slow at only max 8mm,7mm and 6mm. hence,increased the dosage to 75mg. 2nd review on 8th day, 2 eggs growing to 11mm and continue with 75mg dosage till 11th day,only 1 egg continue to grow to 15mm and 11mm remained the same. so doc have decided to prescribe to 100mg preuregon and 0.25mg Ganerelix to prepare for 27 Dec IUI dissemination. My egg growing slower than other according to my IVF friends. Now I have taken leave to rest at home and just bought drip chicken essense today to start to drink after I done my IUI tomorrow. anyone share the same with me?
I think the rage for egg size varies between individuals. What did your Dr say? Mine was natural iui no meds. On day 9 it was about 16mm. I think anything over 18mm on your ovulation day should be fine
Range can be very varied 18 to 30 I think. Don't stress just trust the Dr and pray everything goes smooth. Good luck
 

iibears

Member
Ah to update, what happened was I went back to KK on day 2 of my period, and they did a scan for me. In the scan, they found that there was still some cyst like thingie (cannot rmb the actual term) due to the 'leftover injections' in my body and hence cannot proceed to try for this cycle :(

Then KKIVF centre not available for SOIUI from 6 Jan to 20 Jan. Haiz I really want to try again for SOIUI instead of waiting till Feb leh. So I have made an appointment at TFC to find out more about their processes and cost. Though the thing is... TFC moving to Paragon, and they still waiting for some licensing, probably mid Jan then will get. Hopefully just in time for my period cycle.
Ohh why are they not available from 6 to 20 Jan? I think my first cycle didn't work as well, will be gg back on the 30th for mandatory blood test, do you know if I can start 2nd cycle immediately after the blood test? But my day 2 is gg be tomorrow I think
 

StayingPositive

New Member
Ohh why are they not available from 6 to 20 Jan? I think my first cycle didn't work as well, will be gg back on the 30th for mandatory blood test, do you know if I can start 2nd cycle immediately after the blood test? But my day 2 is gg be tomorrow I think
Think they may do a scan and advise if you can start immediately or not. So when you start heavy flow, then call them to update about it and see if can go scan. They are closed in Jan cos of CNY period i think. Probably they counted roughly when will ovulation happen for the IUI to take place, then dont wanna risk it cos of the public holidays?
 

iibears

Member
Think they may do a scan and advise if you can start immediately or not. So when you start heavy flow, then call them to update about it and see if can go scan. They are closed in Jan cos of CNY period i think. Probably they counted roughly when will ovulation happen for the IUI to take place, then dont wanna risk it cos of the public holidays?
Got it thanks!
 

Rine_YM

Member
Mine was yellowish brown yesterday then suddenly abit of bright red then today watery sorry if its tmi!

I'm required to go back to kkh for mandatory urine test on 30th, if we wanna start 2nd cycle can we do so on 30th or have to wait for next doctor's appointment? I think 30th is my heavy flow day.
I told clinic I had brown spotting today and straight away went down. Was asked to stop duhpaston and prepare for next cycle. Also took letrozole today and will only start on my D2 period. But now still brown spotting only
 

iibears

Member
I told clinic I had brown spotting today and straight away went down. Was asked to stop duhpaston and prepare for next cycle. Also took letrozole today and will only start on my D2 period. But now still brown spotting only
Hi Rine, are you with kkh or private clinic? Did they do blood test for you to confirm if you conceive?

I think I will skip one cycle and start my 2nd next month since kkivf center is also close for a good part of Jan.

My period came full blown but I'm having one of the worse cramps, never this bad before. Not sure why
 

Rine_YM

Member
Hi Rine, are you with kkh or private clinic? Did they do blood test for you to confirm if you conceive?

I think I will skip one cycle and start my 2nd next month since kkivf center is also close for a good part of Jan.

My period came full blown but I'm having one of the worse cramps, never this bad before. Not sure why
I'm at private, no did not do blood test. Today period come liao :( try again next cycle

I think you have to inform the doc u had very bad ctamp see what he doc says..

Let's jiayou together!
 

iibears

Member
I'm at private, no did not do blood test. Today period come liao :( try again next cycle

I think you have to inform the doc u had very bad ctamp see what he doc says..

Let's jiayou together!
it's okay! We jia you for next cycle!

Gg to let doctor know but not sure if I will get to see doctor on 30th or just nurse for blood test. Like already know results still need to do blood test just to confirm
 

oldlady

New Member
Today I did blood test and confirm not pregnant. This is my second soiui failure. Now waiting for my AF to come. Feeling sad and depression.
 

Rine_YM

Member
it's okay! We jia you for next cycle!

Gg to let doctor know but not sure if I will get to see doctor on 30th or just nurse for blood test. Like already know results still need to do blood test just to confirm
Think no need dp blood test ba.. why waste the $? Go go for 2nd try already
 

iibears

Member
Think no need dp blood test ba.. why waste the $? Go go for 2nd try already
Kkivf protocol, even if period is here already also must do the blood test, its mandatory. They were saying just in case it's a complication i.e miscarriage.

And since they are close most part of Jan I will skip the December one and resume end Jan!
 

Zerelda

Member
Have been silently reading these past few days and never expected that there are so many of us that are also in the same boat. I was honestly very upset after being diagnosed by the doctor that I have a PCOS problem a couple of years ago (at 27 years old) and do not ovulate all the time. I did further checks and discovered that my body/blood has a lot of environmental toxins. I made many changes to my lifestyle and the largest changes were made last year. During my scan in dec, it appears that I had some improvements to my PCOS condition.

I just did my first SO-IUI (at 31 years old) at Raffles and it’s post 8th day, nevertheless I’m hoping I’ll get lucky although the chances of IUI is pretty low. The total cost as of now is approximately $2.3k, this does not include the cost of HSG. I did the HSG which was totally pain free and super fast. I was super scared as I read about the pain previously. You would only experience pain if there is a blockage.

All of you ladies are really brave. Jiayou and babydust to all!!

PS: Will be glad to join a support group if there is.
 
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Flyingfish87

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Hi, I am also a silent reader. Been diagnosed with pcos abt 1.5years ago. I was quite chocked because I conceived my first child easily and never thought I will have secondary fertility. I will be turning 33 soon and am still trying for a 2nd child and currently undergoing my 1st soiui treatment at kkh. Just to help clear some misconception, kkh is actually open from 6jan to 24jan for the iui treatment as I went to ask them if they were closing since I have already started treatment.

Would be great if there is a WhatsApp support group or smth so that we may mutually share and support each other.
 

Evelyn5248

New Member
it's my 6dpiui. based on my previous briefing, I should go back for a round of blood test on 7dpiui. but on the day of my IUI dissemination, nurse only advise me to go back for blood test on 19dpiui. Is there anyone encounter the same issue with me?
 
it's my 6dpiui. based on my previous briefing, I should go back for a round of blood test on 7dpiui. but on the day of my IUI dissemination, nurse only advise me to go back for blood test on 19dpiui. Is there anyone encounter the same issue with me?
I did SO IUI in KK in Nov 2019, and was only asked to do blood test on 19dpiui (compulsory, even if AF comes before that). I wasn't informed about any earlier blood test during the SO IUI briefing... did you do at KK too?
 

Zerelda

Member
it's my 6dpiui. based on my previous briefing, I should go back for a round of blood test on 7dpiui. but on the day of my IUI dissemination, nurse only advise me to go back for blood test on 19dpiui. Is there anyone encounter the same issue with me?
7dpiui is too early for a blood test. Dr/nurse says cannot detect. However, as I am flying back to the US, my blood test is scheduled for 15dpiui at the very last appt - which may or may not detect. I’ll need to follow up with a blood test from the US if they can’t detect anything from the 15dpiui.
 

Zerelda

Member
it's my 6dpiui. based on my previous briefing, I should go back for a round of blood test on 7dpiui. but on the day of my IUI dissemination, nurse only advise me to go back for blood test on 19dpiui. Is there anyone encounter the same issue with me?
7dpiui is too early for a blood test. Dr/nurse says cannot detect. However, as I am flying back to the US, my blood test is scheduled for 15dpiui at the very last appt - which may or may not detect. I’ll need to follow up with a blood test from the US if they can’t detect anything from the 15dpiui.
 

Flyingfish87

New Member
Anybody who went through soiui at kkh but their follicles din grow? My follicles are still betw 6 to 8mm in day 12 which doc says it's too small. Just increased the puregon jab to 100.

Not sure what will happen if it still doesn't grow...
 

Zerelda

Member
Anybody who went through soiui at kkh but their follicles din grow? My follicles are still betw 6 to 8mm in day 12 which doc says it's too small. Just increased the puregon jab to 100.

Not sure what will happen if it still doesn't grow...
I didn’t do it at KKH. However, mine was growing slowly and so I was given Puregon 75IU. It did grow after that but only 1 follicle was dominant and 1 near dominant. The other 3 did not change much. I know my doc says that if the follicles don’t grow, they will need to abort the cycle and probably try Gonal F the next cycle. Gonal F is more expensive.
 

Zerelda

Member
Anybody who went through soiui at kkh but their follicles din grow? My follicles are still betw 6 to 8mm in day 12 which doc says it's too small. Just increased the puregon jab to 100.

Not sure what will happen if it still doesn't grow...
Eat eggs.. I also take liquid multi vitamin as it absorbs better. Contains the vitamins and minerals required for good quality eggs.
 
Anybody who went through soiui at kkh but their follicles din grow? My follicles are still betw 6 to 8mm in day 12 which doc says it's too small. Just increased the puregon jab to 100.

Not sure what will happen if it still doesn't grow...
I did at KK. My follicles were slow growing as well but I managed to get 1 dominant follicle at day 11. I ate 4 egg whites a day. Maybe you can try to eat more eggs, or increase your protein intake. I also drank red bean soup daily for lining.

Puregon 100 should help to boost the size. In meantime, eat more egg whites.
 
Also just to share that I've read it takes 3 months at least for diet changes or vitamins to affect our eggs and follicles. So I'm not sure too if eating more egg whites during stimulation period help, but it's no harm trying as I believe what we eat every day matters too.

This paragraph is referring to IVF but shld be similar theory for IUI:

"Taking three to six months to prepare your body for IVF is ideal. The reason for that is because it takes three months or more for a follicle to mature. The quality of your egg is therefore a direct representation of the fertile environment in your body during the previous few months. " https://www.thetot.com/mama/tips-to-prepare-for-ivf/
 

iibears

Member
I did SO IUI in KK in Nov 2019, and was only asked to do blood test on 19dpiui (compulsory, even if AF comes before that). I wasn't informed about any earlier blood test during the SO IUI briefing... did you do at KK too?
My situation is same as herekittykitty, also with kkh.
 

Moon08

New Member
Have been silently reading these past few days and never expected that there are so many of us that are also in the same boat. I was honestly very upset after being diagnosed by the doctor that I have a PCOS problem a couple of years ago (at 27 years old) and do not ovulate all the time. I did further checks and discovered that my body/blood has a lot of environmental toxins. I made many changes to my lifestyle and the largest changes were made last year. During my scan in dec, it appears that I had some improvements to my PCOS condition.

I just did my first SO-IUI (at 31 years old) at Raffles and it’s post 8th day, nevertheless I’m hoping I’ll get lucky although the chances of IUI is pretty low. The total cost as of now is approximately $2.3k, this does not include the cost of HSG. I did the HSG which was totally pain free and super fast. I was super scared as I read about the pain previously. You would only experience pain if there is a blockage.

All of you ladies are really brave. Jiayou and babydust to all!!

PS: Will be glad to join a support group if there is.
I also share a similar journey. Diagnosed with PCOS couple of years back. That time we were not actively trying to conceive but also not preventing. Since last 1yr we have been trying actively and also started consulting doctor. I have already tried 5 cycles of Letrozole and ovulated but no pregnancy. This cycle I am doing SO-IUI at kkh. Tomorrow 1st follicular scan on CD6.
May I know how did you discover about the environmental toxins? Can you also share the lifestyle changes you have done?
Good luck!!
 

Zerelda

Member
I also share a similar journey. Diagnosed with PCOS couple of years back. That time we were not actively trying to conceive but also not preventing. Since last 1yr we have been trying actively and also started consulting doctor. I have already tried 5 cycles of Letrozole and ovulated but no pregnancy. This cycle I am doing SO-IUI at kkh. Tomorrow 1st follicular scan on CD6.
May I know how did you discover about the environmental toxins? Can you also share the lifestyle changes you have done?
Good luck!!
I work in the US and therefore had the chance to do some bloodwork (bloodtests) to test for toxin load in my body (chlorine, mercury, heavy metals etc). During that time, I was really frustrated as doctors just kept telling me I am stressed but couldn’t tell me what to do. However, I was really ok at work and wasn’t like exactly stressed. Honestly, you won’t need bloodwork to tell you that you have toxins in your body. It is a fact that we all have... The air we breathe, the water we drink.. The chemicals that is all floating all around. All of these enter through our pores and body. You cannot get rid of it 100% but you can still reduce it very significantly.

These are the major steps I took:
1. Stopped using plastic as much as I can (if it’s takeaway food usually no choice). However, I rarely eat takeaway food. Never ever heat food in plastic.

2. Majority of my meals are home prepared. My diet also consist of more vegetables (I don’t eat raw and hate salad fyi) and fruits. My diet contains more whole grains like quinoa, brown rice, wild rice, red rice, lentils and beans. All can be found in the organic section. Dishes are very simple like lentil soup, lentil curry soup, black bean patties, lentils and tomatoes.. Wild rice chicken soup.. quinoa sweet potatoes curry patties (turmeric is very good in most food). .. Quinoa with like avocados and squeeze of lime (can add tomatoes and red onions). Chinese coriander is very good for detox of heavy metals.. All my food always contain some of it, you only need a few pieces if you hate the taste. Can find all these in the NTUC organic section or iherb. Sunflower seeds (luteal phase) and pumpkin seeds (follicular phase) used for balancing of hormones in different phases. I love dark choc too which is a good thing too. I eat other nuts too like Brazil nuts.. almond nuts, cashew nuts.. walnuts (snacks).

3. I love fish and seafood and that’s the culprit of the high mercury and heavy metals level. Now, I only take wild caught fish (swim in the sea). Those cheap Norwegian salmon you see in the supermarket are farmed.. which is bad. I cut down on other seafood and buy wild caught whenever I can find. Once in a while I’m guilty but rarely.

4. I still take meat but not pork. If I take chicken.. I buy organic in the US and kampung in Singapore. Basically, you just want to avoid antibiotics chicken. As for beef, I only take grass fed (QB food in sg has grass fed).

5. I was diagnosed with pretty bad PCOS then. As a result of this, I cut down a lot on soy. I still eat tofu, but only organic and sprouted tofu. And.. It’s not everyday.. only when I crave for it. You can still get your protein from eggs, chicken and beef. I eat hard boiled eggs or scrambled eggs. I also eat poached eggs if I can get pasteurized eggs (Egg story in NTUC).

6. I make my own veg fruit juice as the ones outside has a lot of sugar. PCOS gave me insulin problems. My green juice has 1 Apple, 1 orange, 1 lemon, 1 cup kale, 1/2 cup spinach and a few pieces of arugula (hate them and it’s bitter). I don’t drink it daily although my doc recommends daily. I do it once every 2 days.. I use air tight glass bottles so I can make a few at one go. Sometimes, if there are cheap pomegranates or cranberries.. I drink apple + pomegranates + cranberries + orange + carrot + grapefruit. There are a lot of combos you can do.

7. Don’t use cooking oil, corn oil, soy oil. Olive oil is not for frying too. I use grape seed oil or avocado oil. You can use ghee too.

8. Cleaning/household stuff - Changed all to plant based cleaners. Most products contain chemicals and the biggest being chlorine (very bad). It doesn’t need to be very expensive and you can diy to save cost. White distilled vinegar works wonders but the smell sucks so I use with essential oils (2-3 drops). I keep simple oils around like lemon or anything citrus.. pine/mint for the toilet. Baking soda (no smell) is a great cleaning agent too and very cheap. You can google recipes. I use baking soda to wash my fruits and vegetables (buy organic if you can).

9. Soaps/Shampoos/Skincare - All changed to plantbased and vegan. For soap I like Dr Bronners. Shampoo I’ve yet to find a totally clean one so I’m just using Burt’s Bees baby mixed with a little dr bronners. Skincare I’m using Osea and Valentia (delivers to sg and affordable). Make up I’m using 100% pure, Naked Poppy and Crunchi. You can’t change all at once, I change them bit by bit.

10. I stopped using non stick pans... all are chemically coated.. including like those diamond ware whatever. I use only stainless steel, corningware, glass, cast iron (le creuset if you can afford it or simply lodge which is cheap in the US). Don’t need a lot, just like a frying pan, small and big pot..

11. I take filtered water. I bought a reverse osmosis filter in the US.. Initial cost is abt 250 usd for a year. Thereafter, cartridges are 100+ usd a year.

12. My vitamins are now from Mary Ruth Organics. I take the daily multivitamin (contains all the vitamins u need including folate) and add the probiotic drops (it’s cheaper than drinking a bottle of yakult daily which contains sugar). I showed a few sg specialists and they all say it’s good. I also have the night one cuz I do not sleep well at times. I also take the turmeric gummy (it tastes super good).

Some changes took time to implement. Basically my entire change took me a year. Thinking back, it’s all worth it. Doctors are now surprised that my PCOS has improved so much.
 
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Zerelda

Member
I work in the US and therefore had the chance to do some bloodwork (bloodtests) to test for toxin load in my body (chlorine, mercury, heavy metals etc). During that time, I was really frustrated as doctors just kept telling me I am stressed but couldn’t tell me what to do. However, I was really ok at work and wasn’t like exactly stressed. Honestly, you won’t need bloodwork to tell you that you have toxins in your body. It is a fact that we all have... The air we breathe, the water we drink.. The chemicals that is all floating all around. All of these enter through our pores and body. You cannot get rid of it 100% but you can still reduce it very significantly.

These are the major steps I take:
1. Stopped using plastic as much as I can (if it’s takeaway food usually no choice). However, I rarely eat takeaway food. Never ever heat food in plastic.

2. Majority of my meals are home prepared. My diet also consist of more vegetables (I don’t eat raw and hate salad fyi) and fruits. My diet contains more whole grains like quinoa, brown rice, wild rice, red rice, lentils and beans. All can be found in the organic section. Dishes are very simple like lentil soup, lentil curry soup, black bean patties, lentils and tomatoes.. Wild rice chicken soup.. quinoa sweet potatoes curry patties (turmeric is very 8. .. Quinoa with like avocados and squeeze of lime (can add tomatoes and red onions). Chinese coriander is very good for detox of heavy metals.. All my food always contain some of it, you only need a few pieces if you hate the taste. Can find all these in the NTUC organic section or iherb. Sunflower seeds (luteal phase) and pumpkin seeds (follicular phase) used for balancing of hormones in different phases. I love dark choc too which is a good thing too. I eat other nuts too like Brazil nuts.. almond nuts, cashew nuts.. walnuts (snacks).

3. I love fish and seafood and that’s the culprit of the high mercury and heavy metals level. Now, I only take wild caught fish (swim in the sea). Those cheap Norwegian salmon you see in the supermarket are farmed.. which is bad. I cut down on other seafood and buy wild caught whenever I can find. Once in a while I’m guilty but rarely.

4. I still take meat but not pork. If I take chicken.. I buy organic in the US and kampung in Singapore. Basically, you just want to avoid antibiotics chicken. As for beef, I only take grass fed (QB food in sg has grass fed).

5. I was diagnosed with pretty bad PCOS then. As a result of this, I cut down a lot on soy. I still eat tofu, but only organic and sprouted tofu. And.. It’s not everyday.. only when I crave for it. You can still get your protein from eggs, chicken and beef. I eat hard boiled eggs or scrambled eggs. I also eat poached eggs if I can get pasteurized eggs (Egg story in NTUC).

6. I make my own veg fruit juice as the ones outside has a lot of sugar. PCOS gave me insulin problems. My green juice has 1 Apple, 1 orange, 1 lemon, 1 cup kale, 1/2 cup spinach and a few pieces of arugula (hate them and it’s bitter). I don’t drink it daily although my doc recommends daily. I do it once every 2 days.. I use air tight glass bottles so I can make a few at one go. Sometimes, if there are cheap pomegranates or cranberries.. I drink apple + pomegranates + cranberries + orange + carrot + grapefruit. There are a lot of combos you can do.

7. Don’t use cooking oil, corn oil, soy oil. Olive oil is not for frying too. I use grape seed oil or avocado oil. You can use ghee too.

8. Cleaning/household stuff - Changed all to plant based cleaners. Most products contain chemicals and the biggest being chlorine (very bad). It doesn’t need to be very expensive and you can diy to save cost. White distilled vinegar works wonders but the smell sucks so I use with essential oils (2-3 drops). I keep simple oils around like lemon or anything citrus.. pine/mint for the toilet. Baking soda (no smell) is a great cleaning agent too and very cheap. You can google recipes. I use baking soda to wash my fruits and vegetables (buy organic if you can).

9. Soaps/Shampoos/Skincare - All changed to plantbased and vegan. For soap I like Dr Bronners. Shampoo I’ve yet to find a totally clean one so I’m just using Burt’s Bees baby mixed with a little dr bronners. Skincare I’m using Osea and Valentia (delivers to sg and affordable). Make up I’m using 100% pure, Naked Poppy and Crunchi. You can’t change all at once, I change them bit by bit.

10. I stopped using non stick pans... all are chemically coated.. including like those diamond ware whatever. I use only stainless steel, corningware, glass, cast iron (le creuset if you can afford it or simply lodge which is cheap in the US). Don’t need a lot, just like a frying pan, small and big pot..

11. I take filtered water. I bought a reverse osmosis filter in the US.. It cost abt 250 usd yearly.

12. My vitamins are now from Mary Ruth Organics. I take the daily multivitamin (contains all the vitamins u need including folate) and add the probiotic drops (it’s cheaper than drinking a bottle of yakult daily which contains sugar). I showed a few sg specialists and they all say it’s good. I also have the night one cuz I do not sleep well at times. I also take the turmeric gummy (it tastes super good).

Some changes took time to implement. Basically my entire change took me a year. Thinking back, it’s all worth it. Doctors are now surprised that my PCOS has improved so much.
13. I take sea salt bath (90 cents usd for 1 bottle) with a few iodine drops too. It is called “Hygiene Bath” and good for detoxing radiation (I fly a lot). I do this once every 2 weeks or after a very long flight. I also do a detox bath with Aztec clay (1 big bottle 15 usd), only need 2 tbsp each use.. I drop some lavender in to help me relax. There are other ways to detox too.. Sauna.. Steam bath.. Exercise.

14. Drink lots of fluid (water)... Half your body weight daily.

15. I complement with some TCM. I do not have the privilege of sinseh in the US but I take Chinese herbs. For instance, Ba Zhen after menses. I also take ginger longan red dates tea, red bean soup. Other herbs like dang gui and packaged herbs bought from SG which is pregnancy friendly (just in case I get pregnant I won’t want to cause a miscarriage).
 
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Zerelda

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I also share a similar journey. Diagnosed with PCOS couple of years back. That time we were not actively trying to conceive but also not preventing. Since last 1yr we have been trying actively and also started consulting doctor. I have already tried 5 cycles of Letrozole and ovulated but no pregnancy. This cycle I am doing SO-IUI at kkh. Tomorrow 1st follicular scan on CD6.
May I know how did you discover about the environmental toxins? Can you also share the lifestyle changes you have done?
Good luck!!
This is the liquid daily vitamin I take and I chose it cuz it’s sugar free (PCOS usually have insulin problems). All the highlighted helps with egg quality. If hubby is willing to take it, it also contains zinc, vit c, amino acids, folate.. all these helps with sperm morphology and quality (but my husband refuses liquid so he takes tablet zinc and vit c and b complex which contains complex - Sperm count improved and morphology improved to borderline, motility not good). On top of that, it has been proven in medical journals that CoOQ10 helps too and Mary Ruth Organics have the gummies for it. It costs 37.50 usd per month (1 bottle 30-32 servings).
 

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This is the liquid daily vitamin I take and I chose it cuz it’s sugar free (PCOS usually have insulin problems). All the highlighted helps with egg quality. If hubby is willing to take it, it also contains zinc, vit c, amino acids, folate.. all these helps with sperm morphology and quality (but my husband refuses liquid so he takes tablet zinc and vit c and b complex which contains complex - Sperm count improved and morphology improved to borderline, motility not good). On top of that, it has been proven in medical journals that CoOQ10 helps too and Mary Ruth Organics have the gummies for it. It costs 37.50 usd per month (1 bottle 30-32 servings).
 

Noop

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Hi ladies sorry this is totally out of topic but wanted to just share it to seek some opinion. I did my first iui cycle last month and had a chemical pregnancy. I did my blood tests to find out I am pregnant and son after 4 days my hcg dropped and I got my periods a week late. So is it ok to do another iui this cycle? Anyone had any experience. I am going to see the Dr next week she says she will leave it upto me if I want to do iui or try naturally this cycle. But she does suggest to try and not skip this cycle.
 

Zerelda

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Hi ladies sorry this is totally out of topic but wanted to just share it to seek some opinion. I did my first iui cycle last month and had a chemical pregnancy. I did my blood tests to find out I am pregnant and son after 4 days my hcg dropped and I got my periods a week late. So is it ok to do another iui this cycle? Anyone had any experience. I am going to see the Dr next week she says she will leave it upto me if I want to do iui or try naturally this cycle. But she does suggest to try and not skip this cycle.
Well that’s technically considered a miscarriage and might be over straining for the body. After my SO-IUI, I intend to complement English supplements and TCM supplements before attempting my next IVF or IUI (likely IVF as I am now mentally prepared). However, I wouldn’t try to stop any pregnancy either so I’ll just leave it as natural. That being said, it differs from body to body and only you will know your body best.
 

Zerelda

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I also share a similar journey. Diagnosed with PCOS couple of years back. That time we were not actively trying to conceive but also not preventing. Since last 1yr we have been trying actively and also started consulting doctor. I have already tried 5 cycles of Letrozole and ovulated but no pregnancy. This cycle I am doing SO-IUI at kkh. Tomorrow 1st follicular scan on CD6.
May I know how did you discover about the environmental toxins? Can you also share the lifestyle changes you have done?
Good luck!!
This is another PCOS success story. She’s more hardcore than me though in terms of cleaning out toxins. I still can’t survive without WiFi for sure
https://branchbasics.com/blog/pcosnaturaltreatment/

I started complete and massive changes from Oct 2018. I had my follow up early Dec 2019. My gynae was confused with the pelvic scan and was like “don’t look like a PCOS patient”. When I heard that, I was secretly happy and grinned.

Approximate Timeline of Change
Oct 2018 - Started using water filter, changed all pots and pans and lunchboxes were all glass. Diet changes over the months. I started supplements and medication for insulin (prescribed by Doc - Metformin) too. I tried many supplements (with insitol, zinc, vit c etc for egg quality) and only started Mary Ruth much later (Nov 2019). TCM has been all along complementing but it’s some specially prescribed formula, I just took anything that was pregnancy safe and can help me to bu.

Jan 2019 - Cosmetics and facial care completely replaced. I was slowly replacing as I finished my remaining. Some I totally dumped out after checking the ingredients.

May 2019 - Took Letrozole as I wanted to try for pregnancy. Took a total of 4 cycles and ovulated. But out of the 2 cycles, hubby was travelling.

Aug 2019 - Moved house and managed to completely eliminate all bad house cleaning products. I had my new apartment completely cleaned multiple times with plant based products (include walls and ceiling).

Hubby never did a semen analysis until Dec 2019 but doc says it’s reasonable for his age but can be improved. Sperm Count 21 mil. Morphology 3. Motility 57%. Both morphology and motility need to improve. After sperm wash, Morphology was 4 and with 98% motility.. But only 5.7 mil post wash. Gonna change his supplements after we get back. He’s stubborn and only listens to the doc more. Gonna have him take the male supplement from Blue Stork which doc gave the go ahead.

Branch Basics is a EWG rated 1 product (extremely clean) but unfortunately it doesn’t deliver to SG. My friend says can use EZ Buy though.
 
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