A place for the TTCs.. (Trying To Conceive)

Hi Jenifur

which gyane u seeing now?

as per ur request attached is my little darling girl
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<font face="Calisto mt"> Wendy,

I'm currently with Dr Lawerence Ang from Thomson Women's Clinic. He's quite nice &amp; patient.

Ur darling girl look very cute leh. Guess all those sleepless nights r worth it..... ya

Garfield,

Congrats... Take care of urself &amp; hv a smooth 9 mth

Gingerale,

Tks. I cannot believe tt I strike too. Hope e ovulation kit will bring u gd luck.</font>
 
garfield: ur due date should be 22 sept....
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bookworm: dun get too stress. at times CD32 u test maybe not be the right time yet.... wait for few more days..
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Nik &amp; Verone,
Thks 4 welcoming me.
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Hi Hopeful,
How to get myself included on the list? If my AF came on 11th. Does it mean I'm currently CD10?

Hi jenifur,
A couple of my colleagues were with Dr Ang while they were pregnant and they had nothing but praises 4 him. I was actually quite interested in getting him but unfortunately, dun hav the chance yet.. hopefully soon!
 
welcome angie &amp; verone

anyone can help me?? i took my temp for fun these 3 days at the same time and its was 36.6-36.9 leh.. :p is it normal?? :p though i'm already CD42 today but still no symptons leh.. goin gynae appointment on the 1st march.. if AF still not arrive guess i will get gynae to give me med to induce leh ;)
 
Ling: How u calculate wan? My menses come abt every 2 months leh....and last menses was 16th Dec 2004...so how to calculate

Sandy &amp; jennifur: thanks!! *SMILE*
 
Hopeful,

Pls add me too..my 1st day of AF is 6 Feb, so I think I am CD15, thanks much much!!

Can I find out from you girls, where to buy ovulation kit huh and how much does it cost?
 
Hi mei mei,
it's normal for temp to remain high before AF comes. If continue to remain high, then BFP is very high.
Continue to monitor,...... can test already....
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Good luck... maybe strike already?

Hi garfield,
congrats!!
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Hope you have a smooth 9 mths ahead.

Hi choo,
how are you today? tested?
 
garfield: using the due date calculator. use the first day of ur last period... go to motherhood.com.sg
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verone: O kits which are sold in Singapore are very expensive... try ordering from the internet.. it will be surely cheaper...
 
elmo,

tink no chance liao...
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thur was 36.9 fri was 37.2 sat 37.2 sun 37.2..

today...36.8....
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heart drop....but kinda expected since hubby has got 1% normal sperm....wasted my clomid...

check with u if use temperature is it same with wat I am doing now?when temperature rise means ovualation coming?these few days measured temperature and I find that it is not a chore afterall...
 
Good morning ladies
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Garfield>> Congrats... take care gal
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Need some advice... I'm currently taking metformin &amp; clomid and found that my AF is very little... is it normal?
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loveluis,

I believe it is normal...sneaky and I felt AF is not that much as before and for me,my AF is clear on the 4th day...dun worry too much ok!
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Hi choo,
know how you feel, but stay positive ya?.... I went thru the same thing last mth,..... but impt to stay positive.... like what sneaky and ling have said, you just need 1 good soldier, so dun focus on the 1% ......* hug*
yes, I take temp every day in the morning before I get out of bed, then record it down in a chart I put by the bedside, so that I won't forget.

Look out for a sudden dip in the temp from average.....then the temp will rise steadily from thereon... after achieving a high tem, normally 0.4-0.6 then the average, it continues to remain there for many days until AF comes.
Do however, be careful of those one day fluctuation. That means rises and falls from day to day. I see erractic temp in the early CDs, so those I ignore, but I monitor very closely.
After you chart the temp, there should be a obvious temp shift. Join the points on a chart so that you can see the trend clearly.
It's like before the ovulation sets in, temp range is lower than after the ovulation happens.
Not sure if I've managed to explain clearly.... :p
to make double sure, use the ovulation strip to test.....
 
choo: nothing is wasted dear... like i say 1% is alot.. cos we only need ONE SPERM to fertilize the egg.... pls dun be so disappointed... are u now taking temp for O or for preggie? it is not gng to be a chore. as long as u know the O dates are near, u just start to test. choo, dear girl i think u are getting stressed out. relax... as long as AF not here.. meaning still have hope..
 
elmo dear,

thanks for the explanation...
hence meaning if i start monitoring from my CD10 onwards...once it reach ard CD16 my temperature will go down?meaning ovulation is coming?and i shd start BD?after ovulation my temperature will rise and stay till AF coming?wow hope i can this right....thanks!

ling,
me CD31 liao...seen the drop in temperature though past 3 days was 37.2...hence no chance liao.....
 
morning gals...

go see gynae yesterday..
see bb heartbeat, but doc suspected i m LOW AMNIOTIC FLUID, cos my bb still very small wif 9.3mm, this is also mean that my bb might not able survive although can see heartbeat now...

feeling utmost sad when heard this.. now need monitor closely, will go other gynae this coming sun to double check again...hopefully by time, everything will be normal...
 
good morning everybody! its a new week again, and hope everyone had a good rest!
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Dun forget our date on friday!
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Aha, so we have another good news! Garfield, congrats to u and your hubby, have a smooth 9 mths!
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Choo,
yes once it becomes a habit, BBT is not a chore, heehee, and yes, it is the same way when checking for O, except that u shd be looking for a dip! Cos O will cause temp to rise, as such when u see a rise, it might be a little too late liao... so u shd be on lookout for a temp dip instead. For me, temp will be very low (like 36.3) for 2-3 days, meaning O will take place very soon, therefore must bd bd and bd! Once temp goes up, meaning O had already taken place (u shd consider the previous day as your O day), can still bd for 1 more day... before "closing shop" and entering the 2WW!

actually 36.8 is still on the high side for u, if i'm not wrong AF shdn't report today? Keep monitoring your temp okie? Hope it stays high high high for u!
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Hi Choo,

FYI..... but the temp mentioned here is in F....... but use it as a rough idea of the range


When To Start Taking Temps
Your first temperature should be taken starting with day one of your cycle. Day one of your cycle is the first day you begin your menstrual period.

What Time To Take Temp
Your temperature reading can rise up to 1/10 of a degree for every half an hour taken later than normal or fall 1/10 of a degree for every half hour taken earlier than normal. To get an accurate chart, it is crucial to take your temperature as close as possible to the same time everyday. If you normally get up during the weekdays at 6:00 AM try and take all your temperatures at this time. Weekends can be tough....we all like to sleep in, just remember that each temperature that is not taken at the normal time has to be adjusted (using the 1/10 for every half an hour rule) which will get you close to what your temperature should have been. Always log the time your temperature was taken each day and make a notation if your temperature has been adjusted.

What Kind Of Thermometer
You can use either a traditional glass or digital thermometer, but use the same thermometer throughout your cycle. If you use a traditional glass thermometer always shake it down and make sure you wait for 5 minutes before you read the temperature. If you use a digital thermometer, wait for the beep (usually about 1 minute) before you read and that the temperature will register to 1/10 of a degree. For example: will read 97.56 and not round up to 97.6.

Do I Take Temp Orally
Temperatures can be taken either orally or vaginally. Which ever method you choose, keep it consistent throughout the cycle.

Take Temps Upon Waking
It is important to take your temperature immediately upon waking. Your temperature will fluctuate once you are moving around. If you wake up during the middle of the night and you go back to sleep and get at least three additional hours of uninterrupted sleep, your temperature will be accurate. If you wake up less than three hours before your normal scheduled waking time and have to get up for any reason, it is advisable to take your temperature then (before you get out of bed) and not at your normal waking time. Remember log the time temperature was taken and make a notation as to the adjustment.

How To Log Your Temps
Start with a good spreadsheet There is no such thing as too much information to log in your chart - every little twinge may be telling you something! Temps should range from the mid 96's to 99.00. Your cycle day and date should run across the top of the spreadsheet. Your indicator columns and your temperature range should run up and down. Make sure you start your numbering on cycle day one (first day of mp) leave the blanks if you have missed a few days. Always round down. For example if your waking temperature registered at 97. 52 - you would chart your temp at 97.5. If it was 97.68 you would round down to 97.6 the reason for this is you do not want to risk charting a false high high temp. A false high could lead you to believe that you have already ovulated when in fact you may still be fertile. Circle the appropriate temp for the appropriate day and log all other indicators for that day. Draw a line going from your first charted temp to your second charted temp, from your second charted temp to your third and so on. This will give you a clearer picture as to the rises and or falls within your cycle. Occasionally you may get an out of the ordinary temperature read - you may be ill, stressed, did not get enough sleep, had alcohol the night before....these temps should be logged but do not connect them to the previous day or the day after - the reason for this is they are not a true temp and may cause confusion in reading your chart. Remember to make a notation as to the cause of the unusual temperature.

The Information Temps Give
Taking your waking body temperature can give you information that is very helpful if trying to conceive. If not pregnant your temperature will reflect two phases during a cycle, three phases if conception has occurred. Your temperatures will vary (fall and rise) during your monthly cycle. They will be lower in the first phase, higher in the second phase and higher still in the third phase once implantation takes place. The rise in temps from the first phase to the second phase is caused from ovulation. Your temps will rise only AFTER ovulation has taken place. Charting temperatures alone without using cervical fluid and position DOES NOT indicate when your most fertile time is (before ovulation) until after ovulation has occurred - which is too late. Therefore we recommend that all indicators are charted to give a more efficient reading of fertility.

First Phase Temps
The first phase (Preovulatory) before ovulation has occured, temps will normally be between 97.0 to 97.5. Right before ovulation occurs the hormone estrogen is produced causing lower temps. Many women are able to see a dip in temp alerting them that peak time is near and ovulation is about to occur. Just remember, your temps can rise and fall multiple times before a dip making it difficult to know when the lowest point will be. It is important to also know that your lowest temperature is most likely NOT your peak day and unless you are charting other indicators you may miss your most fertile time completely.

Second Phase Temps
In the second phase (Luteal Phase) which begins after ovulation temperatures generally will rise between 97.6 and 98.6. The increased temperatures are due to the hormone progesterone which is released from the corpus luetum - the follicle that hold the egg. The temps will remain high for a period usually 12 to 16 days until they drop again (either the day before or the day of) when your cycle ends and menstrual period begins. If conception occurs temperatures will remain high during the entire pregnancy.

Third Phase Temps
Many women experience a third phase (Triphasic Phase) which is temperatures climbing to yet another level that is approximately 3/10's - 4/10's over the Luteal Phase high. This is due to the HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) hormone that is produced if conception has occurred and when implantation takes place.

Detecting Ovulation
Detecting ovulation by charting your temperatures can easily be seen after you have ovulated. A dip in temperature followed by a rise (at least 2/10's of a degree) higher than all temps the previous six days and staying at or beyond this level for at least 3 consecutive days shows that ovulation has occurred. Your coverline is usually drawn at this point. Remember - Snuggle Buggle has to take place BEFORE you ovulate to enhance your chances for conception. Charting your cervical fluid and position along with your temperatures will give you a much clearer picture as to when you are most likely ovulating and when your peak time is. For more detailed information on detecting ovulation and drawing coverline, click on the appropriate link provided.

Identifying Anovulatory Cycles
A anovulatory cycle means that no ovulation occurred during that particular cycle. This can be identified by charting your waking temperature. When viewing charted temperatures that appear to have peaks and valleys (many low and high temps) throughout the entire month with no clear separation of a rise in level of temps (rising from first phase / pre-ovulation Phase to second phase / luetal phase) this is a good indication that ovulation did not occur. Many women who are able to conceive may have months that no ovulation takes place - however, we only have 12 times a year to conceive so in my opinion any anovulatory cycles should be followed by seeking testing and / or treatment from ones OBGYN or RE specialist.

Low Estrogen Levels
Estrogen is a hormone that is produced by the follicles that hold an egg. Estrogen plays a large part in the ability to conceive. It is the hormone needed for women to ovulate. It also plays a part as to the amount and quality of cervical mucus which is crucial for the sperm to travel up to the outer third part of the fallopian tubes for conception. An indication of low levels of estrogen would be a nonovulatory cycle along with low amount or poor quality of cervical fluid. For more detailed information on estrogen and its function, click on the Monthly Cycle page link.

Low Progesterone Levels
Progesterone is also an important hormone within our cycle. It comes from the corpus luteum. When an egg is released the follicle that held it collapses and becomes a yellowed bodied mass called the corpus luteum. The corpus luteum sticks to the ovarian wall and starts producing progesterone. Its life span is about 12 to 16 days. Progesterone insures that all maturing eggs (15 - 20 within a cycle) are not released, it thickens the uterine lining, and causes the fertile signs - dip and temp, egg white cervical mucus, and high cervical position to return to a non fertile state.

Low Progesterone levels can be indicated by seeing temps close to, on or below coverline after ovulation through the end of a cycle. Even if ovulation was achieved, low progesterone levels make it very difficult to obtain successful conception. Low progesterone levels can be treated by seeking help from an OBGYN or RE specialist. Progesterone shots, pills, and suppositories are some of the ways Doctors may prescribe to increase this hormone. For more detailed information on Progesterone and its function please click on the the Monthly Cycle page link.

Indication of Possible Pregnancy
Ovulation day is not necessarily the same day month to month making the first phase of a cycle vary. The luteal phase (second phase after ovulation) usually is the same every month. After ovulation has occurred you can indicate a pregnancy by watching for the passing of your normal luteal phase. For example if you always have 13 days (DPO - days past ovulation) from when you ovulate to when your period comes and its now 16 DPO, there is a very good chance you are pregnant! 18 DPO with high temps usually guarantee's that you have conceived. Seeing the a sustained third phase (triphasic phase) will also put you on the red alert to a possible success!
 
choo: slight drop is ok.. dun get too worried..

loving: dun worry too much.. u hasnt be resting well isit? or not eating well?

girls... my hubby very bad this morning.. i was trying to wear my 3/4 pants... and i cant button it up cos tummy already start to grow slightly bigger... and he so bad.. laugh so loud....
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Loving,
oh dear... so sad for u... but pls continue to have faith, even though we can't control life, but the least we can do is to have hope and put up a good fight to the end... who knows maybe all's well by this coming sun?
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Doc gave u any medication or supplements? U rest well and take care alright?
 
naturally,

thanks!so i know the concept liao..i will monitor from CD10...if by a date i saw there is a dip in temperature...i am ovulating soon RIGHT??
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then must faster grab chance..after ovulation the temperature will go up until AF arrives..hope i am really clear about this...

the main reason I can't take my temperature is cos i can't wait up on a definite timing...sometime 615am sometimes 6.30am sometimes laze till 645am...so not consistent...also my gynae also advised me not to add stress to myself by taking temperature everyday...

my AF shd report today or tomorrow liao...given the dip in my temperature...
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elmo,

thanks for giving me so much info!will print and read!
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hi ladies, i'm new here...
do you all mean if i'll trying to conceive it is a must to take our temperature every morning?
 
vineyard:
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i am not sure abt taking temp. but i bet.. many will help to answer ur questions.. kekekkee..

elmo: ya ya.. so bad. if i fat.. he just as bad. .whahahahahahahha.... when i cant get wat i wan.. i just stand there.. and say, ok.. dun give me right... i will jump.. whahahahhahahahahha

choo: dear girl.. have some faith...
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hi loving,
*cheer up*
gynae say maybe only right.... so dun give up yet....still got chance.... stay positive so that your body will react in a positive manner....

you'll never know....
will be praying for you....
take good care of yourself in the meantime. *hug*
 
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<font face="courier new"> <font color="0000ff">as @ 21 Feb 05
nyny ........... CD 05
loveluis ....... CD 06
badgirl ........ CD 07
juliann ........ CD 07
sugarbun ....... CD 09
angie .......... CD 11
elmo ........... CD 12
snowball ....... CD 16
verone ......... CD 16
dawn ........... CD 19
kelly .......... CD 26
hopeful ........ CD 26
nik ............ CD 28
sandy .......... CD 28
lilacz ......... CD 32
bookworm ....... CD 36
mei mei ........ CD 43
meijia ......... CD 59
celestine ...... CD 67
hopeformiracle . CD 70

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Graduates - EDD
huggie ......... ??/02/05
jara ........... 28/02/05
lbs ............ 02/03/05
seiko .......... 08/03/05
lilac .......... 09/03/05
KC ............. 14/03/05
ribena ......... 19/03/05
funny .......... 15/04/05
oreo ........... 14/05/05
sharon ......... 17/05/05
bluesea ........ 22/05/05
ras ............ 07/06/05
jamci .......... 15/06/05
megtan ......... 21/06/05
stupid ......... 10/07/05
tuffy .......... 17/07/05
bubbleling ..... 19/07/05
wendyg ......... 09/08/05
tingting ....... 09/08/05
miso ........... 20/08/05
angel .......... 28/08/05
ilmare ......... 11/09/05
confused ....... 21/09/05
garfield ....... 22/09/05
loving ......... 03/10/05
sneaky ......... 06/10/05
kris ........... ??/10/05
jenifur ........ 13/10/05
ling ng ........ 23/10/05

</font><font color="119911">CD = Cycle Day; AF = Aunt Flo = menses;</font>

Common Terms used</font>
Checking your CM and Folic Acid
The TTC Prayer

<font color="ff0000">If you like to join us, please let me know, so that I can add you into our CD Update List.
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Choo,
yes i think u got it! Aiya, 15min difference is still acceptable... we're not doing accounting work where things must be exact, this is just an estimation!
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Hmm... if u afraid stress of taking temp will affect your ovulation, then dun lor! I think using the urine opk will be less stress hor?
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Besides, the opk is still the most accurate way of detecting O...
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I'm still hoping that 36.8 is still high for u...
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Vineyard,
dearie, no no, in order to conceive, u must BD (aka make love) with your hubby during your fertile period, heehee!
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But seriously, taking temp is just a means of estimating the fertile period. Best way of estimating ovulation is still the urine ovulation prediction kits (opk), u can get them from the internet, very very much cheaper than watson's!
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hi ling,
you also very naughty... must take care of bb you know....cannot jump cannot jump!
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Hi choo,
yes.... that's the idea....
I cannot wake up at a definite timing also.... weekday between 640 to 710 sometimes, but I still take temp.... so far quiet ok except weekend, sometimes wake up 11 or 12, but I still record....... thou temp can be 0.1 to 0.2 higher..... so monitor lor....so far ok lah...:p
 
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my MIL just came into the room.. tell me dun keep sitting infront of the COMPUTER... cos of radiation...
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okok.. i rest awhile.. go kpo her.. whahaha.. then come up again. whahhaa
 
hi all

I think I'm under stress... my AF still not here yet, my AF seldom late... it's already CD30 (usual 27-28) but I have not much signs...and the sad thing was... I did a test yesterday and it was negative
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... so sad so sad....
 
hi lina, hi ladies!!!
hi naturally, of cos got make love mah haha but still don't have lei! hai, i know this sounds silly but is ovulation time is the time when the menses end? and start to count day 1 from there?

how can temperature determine fertile period wor?
 
Hi Vineyard,
welcome! The first day of your menses is counted as CD 01. Normally if u have a 30 days cycle, ovulation will occur roughly between CD14 to CD16. But it differs from person to person. So the best way to determine ovulation is to either take temp like what the ladies mentioned this morning, or to use an ovulation peridiction kit (OPK).
 
Vineyard,
that was just a joke hor?
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We all start blur blur, so no qn is too silly alright!
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CD1 is the first day of menses, aka AF (Aunt Flo, western version of da yi ma). Ovulation is ard mid-cycle, or a more accurate way to say, is that Ovulation takes place 14-16 days BEFORE menses. If u had read our above postings, esp elmo's posting, u can see how temp will dip just before O, which indicates good time to BD, and once O is over, u will know cos temp will rise.
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But this is just a gauge lah, best is still the urine opk...
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Hi Cookie,
take it easy ya? Probably you can test again tomorrow or the day after tomorrow? got take temp?
Maybe it's too early and there's not enuff hormones for the kit to detect pregnancy??....
 
Hi All

I have been following this thread for quite some time. really impressed by your support and encouragement to each other.

I am also TTCing for about 7 mth already. still no good news yet. I started to use the O test kit from last month (bought from Watson). realised that there is actually cheaper alternatives to buy from US online from http://babywishes.homestead.com/OvulationTests.html has anybody here tried yet? Any idea how long is the shipping and when is the expiry date of the test kit?
 
piggy: some of our TTC-ians here do order for other friends here too. the O kits in watson are very expensive.. i bought mine in Jan.. kekekke. i used 3 kits only.. and now no need to use.. kekekek..
 
hello everyone!

I MIA since Friday cos my girl came down with a high fever..
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then I suddenly realised how chaotic it would be if 2 children fall ill at the same time!!!!!

Will be seeing the gynae later today! A bit gan cheong now.. really want to hear that everything's fine. And hor, my saliva OPK just arrived.. heh.. now I dunno what to do with it. If I keep it unused for more than a year will spoil or not ah??
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elmo / ling

Thanks for encouragement....
temp taking also disappointing... seems kinda inconsistent, maybe I took the temp at irregular time... sometimes high of 37.0, sometimes low of 36.5...but early in the morning often 36.5 or 36.6 only....looking at the trend it's dipping
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cookie,

dun despair...even if you dun strike there is always the next cycle to try!be positive ok!!
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Loving,

Take care and dun think too much!!hope your baby will be fine...be positive too ok!
 


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