2WW - for those TTC-ing

hi ladies

sorry to interrupt. I am a mummy that go thru IVF and sucessfully give birth to a boy last year Sep. Just to share all the hardship is really worth it!!.

For Laides going thru the IVF Process will need to purchase the Puregon pen @ $50. I am willing to let go mine at $30. Please PM me if keen.
 


Hi catmon, alien, ceraine

thanks for the support..I feel more assured
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Hi Gillian
I'm seeing my gyn at kkh and he asked me to do the rubella test.+ antenatal panel (blood test)
If results show that i need rubella vaccination, then i'll have to wait till 3mths later then can do the so-iui.
But I guess it may be just the hospital policy that I need to do these tests before I can carry on with the so-iui .
My fren did her iui at a pte clinic...no rubella test done before her iui.
Or maybe its jus individual Dr's way of doing things...
 
hi lucky clover/catmon, thanks..

but lucky clover, i was disappointed with kkh because the last visit i took blood test too and they did not conduct the rubella test together.. staff at kkivf cant explain why they did not check on rubella test... because of this, i have to go back again on tue to take the blood test and learn how to self-inject. next day when the result out show i have the immunity, i will have to go back and collect the medicine.. the problem is, if i cant go ahead with the soiui, then isn't i have wasted taken the clomid because my clomid will start on mon. i really duno what they are doing there. worse is when i call kkivf when my mense came, they did not have my record at all and asked why i did not register. how the hell will i know when the nurse at tps did not tell me to do so, and only ask me call kkivf centre on the first day of af.. somemore, staff at tps said my day 3 of mense is sun, and kkivf said mine is on mon because mense come after 12noon.. i have never heard before, plus different dept different way of calculating... i can't do much but to follow kkivf instruction. they have bring me alot of confusion...

anyway, if i need to embark on ivf, i will switch to another hosp..
 
Hi gillian,
Who is ur gynae at KKH? are u under subsidy? for my 1st pregnancy,i wanted to go under subsidy,so i didn't have a fixed gynae until late 2nd trimester.I didn't want to go back to my gynae (private at KKH,not subsidized) coz she said something which i was quite upset abt.she said,"for the next pregnancy,i'll put u on asprin & hope for the best".no further investigations were done for the stillbirth.I read up a lot & decided to go for other tests on my own.after the stillbirth,a series of standard blood test was done & i had to take a rubella vacination.my gynae told me to wait for 6 mths! the 1st thing my hubby & i said was,"we can't wait." 3 mths is agonising enough.i tot of skipping the rubella test,but my cuz (doc) advised me against it coz the consequences is serious,esp since i work in the healthcare sector & will be exposed to all these viruses.so in the end,i took the rubella jab.but i didn't wait,i juz had unprotected sex.at that time,i was slowly easing myself back into the routine of TTC.

I'm currently with Prof Mary Rauff at NUH.i'm paying private rates,but after wat the gynae at KKH said,i juz didn't want a gynae who cannot promise me she sill do all she can for the next high risk pregnancy like mine.if the gynae conducted all the necessary tests,& i still end up with a stillbirth,then i won't be wondering if more could have been done.well,prof rauff doesn't do fertility treatment.so i'm with prof PC wong.

everyone seems to be going to Dr LC foong@ paragon,with lots of success,hor? aiyoh,makes me wonder if i should go there too.but i'm worried abt cost & i have already started with NUH,so a bit reluctant to switch.has anyone had success under prof wong?

ladies,i have to share.i dunno wat's wrong with me.i juz came back fr aus & hubby's away for work.i saw he bought me ovulation test kit.WAH! i juz spent a bomb on preconception vits & a reusable saliva ovulation test kit fr oz.i wished he told me he bought it so i don't have to spend that money.i should be very happy he's willing to participate now.strange,huh? but i'm not happy. i think i'm juz angry with him for causing me so much grief initially.not enough emotional support.u know,he forced me to go to friend's bb's b'day parties 1 or 2 mths after the stillbirth.damn painful!!!! it pierces thru' my heart,but surprisingly,it didn't kill me.of course,i was depressed,upset etc each time i attend such functions.& the only reason i attend is coz i have declined b4,& he said i wasn't ready to have the next kid,so didn't want to try.i didn't want to waste time coz i wanted a yr end baby.& for my case,if another stillbith happens,it's going to be ard 7 mth.so i would have wasted another yr.

u know,the more he wants a kid now,the more i don't want to participate.i'm getting sick & tired of all these quarrels & all the hospital trips are really getting to me.but i ochestrated all these.i know if i try longer,one day,i will get it naturally,coz i've done it naturally b4 very easily.the reason y i'm on all these fertility treatment is coz i want to speed things up & i want to avoid intercourse.of course,intercourse is good for the marriage,the bonding of couples etc.but if i have to watch my every step & try not to offend him during my fertile period,& to have to do this mth after mth,it's agonising.& everytime he refuses to do it (with a whole heap of excuses),i get depressed,upset etc,coz i know i've missed a chance.i have to wait for next mth.

so if i go for IUI/IVF,all i have to do is to tell him the time & day to turn up at the hos,he provides wat is needed,& he can go off.no need to c his face.& to be honest,i feel a lot happier knowing i'm going for IUI.a lot more relaxed,in fact.strange,hor? coz i know i don't have to be on tenterhooks anymore.

okie,pls sprinkle me with lots of baby dust.a bit worried abt the success of iui this time.u know,the hopes r high.but the disppointment will also be high if pregnancy doesn't happen.& to think the wk i'm going for iui is the wk i leave for jap! i'll try not to carry any luggages.i'll leave all that to hubby.
 
hi monster, im with dr loh at the private suite.. i duno what i can do now but to pray for the best on the blood test.. im angry because i have given them ample time to prepare me for the so-iui, and yet now, stuck nowhere, duno if soiui can be proceed anot.. somemore i have taken 3 cycle of clomid before.. and they tot clomid can song song just take one.. if result no good, maybe i have the intention to kick up a fuss with them.. but im sure my hubby will stop me

do u mean u are not immune to rubella at all?

if i really need to embark on ivf, i should be going SGH instead..

Dont be angry with your hubby anymore k? coz it will not do anything good to your relationship.. your hubby is sincere to have a baby or he wont purchase the ovulation kit liao. forgive him and im sure thing will turn out well soon
 
Hi gillian,
I understand ur frustration,coz i was upset i had to take the rubella jab & had to wait.all the time wasted was the only thing i could think of.

it seems to me (may be juz my view) that KKH is very keen on clomid.i've seen dr.koh & he put me on clomid,no monitoring,nothing else was done,coz he told my hubby i'm too eager! walau! imagine my hubby's 'joy' when he could attack me with the doc's words.

u know,gillian,in the past wk my hubby & i have been apart,i feel so relieved.i feel liberated,i feel i've found myself again.it's not normal to be feeling like that.it's coming to a point that i only need him for conception,that's all.that's not healthy at all.i agree with u,if i put everything at the back of my mind,my relationship will improve a lot.

but wat i cannot forgive is the time he wasted juz coz he was petty.i didn't do anything wrong.after a stillbirth,can u imagine the pain of having to attend a bb's b'day party? with even more bb's ard? but he 'forced' me.he said he won't try if i didn't go,coz it's a sign i'm not healing.walau! how to heal a few mths after stillbirth? i'll rem the day until i die.7 mths,u know? my baby could have lived,how to get over her in a few wks? if only emotional healing is as fast as physical healing.

& u know wat he told me? he said he doesn't like the way i initiate sex by being sexy.huh? then wait until he initiates? we'll be 70 already.he hardly initiates & who is the one monitoring ovulation? always the female,right? coz it's our bodies.the men juz have to do the job.so of course my timing of sex is more impt.can die,u know? so many mths wasted coz of hubby being unco-operative.very difficult to conceive this time round already,i still have to deal with this.don't u think i'll get angry? he does everything else.now,he's beginning to eat vit etc,but if he doesn't want to do it during the right time,then all the things he does at all other times will be useless! u know,i've even tried to be really nice,tahan with the shit,but he can juz get angry with me for initiating sex.how ridiculous,right?

oh,forgot to add.no,i've lost my immunity since i had MMR jab in pri 6.haha.that's a long while back.anyway,i didn't have the jab at KKH coz (now,listen to this coz it's ridiculous!),KKH didn' thave the jab.the pure rubella jab.it usually comes in a combination of MMR.so gynae told me to go to GP.i hunted high & low,in the end,my cuz (doc) rang Health science authority & found out for me pure rubella jab is not available in s'pore.so i took the MMR jab.
 
hi monster, i understand. ur hubby should not force u to go to attend a bb's birthday party at the healing process. have u talk to ur hubby over this issue? its a 刺 in you, so got to remove it in order for thing to improve.. like me, im also unhappy over hubby that he leave everything for me to check and seems like nothing goes right. i wrote him a long note on the table for him to read later on when he is back from a wedding dinner and he will raise the topic tml to solve it.

as for timing, communicate with him again what he wants then.. will it be better u mointor, then when right time come, just tell him u got to work hard for these days?
 
Hi gillian,
it's good that ur hubby has worked things out with u.i've tried.maybe i'm not trying hard enough.actually,i've even mentioned to him all i need to hear is 'sorry,i've put u thru' this' fr him.but he maintains he has done nothing wrong.hence,the apology is uncalled for.i have tried to talk it over,we have quarrelled,we have screamed,if u ask me,i have done everything in my ability.it always takes 2 to tango,esp since 2 of us are going for the same thing,a baby.

as for the timing part,told him b4 already.so we have intercourse 3 times a MONTH!!!! only during fertile period.tried to spice things up so it won't seem like such a chore,but he's offended.STRANGE,huh?

dunno wat else i can do.maybe IVF will work.i'm starting to think maybe IVF isn't so tough afterall.

he'll be back tonight.my heart is all hard & cold.i juz wnat to lead my own life,but at the same time,i want a baby of my own.i'm hoping the baby can help firm up our rlnshp.but i know if i juz lead a life of my own,things will get worse coz i'm not making the effort.but if i put in the effort,only to be met with rejection,it's going to be really tough
 
Monster, I read your postings and feel sad for you. Thus decided to post. It must have been a hard period for you to get over your lost. Somehow your communication with your hubby broke down quite badly. But it's good that you did not give up in ttc. You are a brave lady. Jia you!

Since you can conceive naturally previously, I would advise u to go for IUI 1st. It is not so painful and procedure is much more easier than IVF. Some ladies got twins / triplets through IUI.

IVF is tough and it needs a lot of support from hubby. Going through all the injections everyday isn't a nice experience.

Hope your relationship with your hubby will improve soon.
 
Hi baby 09,guess fr ur nick,u're also gunning for an 09 baby like me.well,i hope u will get a favourable outcome with IVF.

aiyah,no chance of twins/triplets for IUI coz i was not given puregon.juz going on natural cycle & insemination.

yah lor,the loss of my darling has really taken a toll on us.that's y i'm heading for IUI.i know i can conceive naturally,but like i've always maintained,taking out the sex fr the equation will prob help me maintain my sanity a bit.at least with the doc arranging all the timings,i don't really have to worry so much.even if i do bd to 'supplement',i will not feel so stressed,as in,i have to do it NOW! u know,then have to make sure hubby is at home etc.quite retrictive.

btw,which doc /hospital did u go to for IVF? i'm thinking IVF isn't so difficult afterall.i handle needles day in & day out,so it should be quite alright for me.as u know,the physical pain is nothing compared to the emotional pain of not having a child.btw,is this ur 1st child?

maybe i can count on u for moral support if i go for IVF.
 
Hi monster, yes, I am hoping for a 09 baby
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Praying hard for positive result.
Has been hoping for my 1st baby for years, hence decided to give IVF a try.

I am under Dr Loh at KKH. I understand what you mean. But I have emotionally breakdown a few times through the process. Find it a tough journey, so really hope to success in this 1st attempt.

No problem, definitely I'll give you my full support if you decided to go for IVF. I will be there for you
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Jia you and stay strong. We will be there for you. During my IVF journey, I'm glad that I got supports from the forumers too.
 
Hi Gillian and Monster...

my gyn is also Dr loh at kkh...
I too was rather unhappy with the way they do things too..
My first appt was on a friday which happen to be my CD1.
So Dr Loh says to do a HSG scan on CD8 (that means to do it the following fri).
By the time I finish seeing Dr Loh, it was almost 8pm. So TPS nurse say they will fax my HSG xray form to the xray dept and they will give me a call the following mon as to what time my appt will be.
Come monday ...I waited and no calls frm the xray dept.
So I decided to call them..They say they didn't receive the xray form. So I say then just give me an appt for friday. But it was all fully booked. So I explained that I need this appt and Dr Loh has asked me to do it on this day ..otherwise, I have to wait till the next mense cycle. So they managed to squeezed me in for fri last patient.
Thought everything was settled until I received a call from
the xray dept on thurs (the day before the scan). Apparently...all the doctors will be away for conference ..so there will be no doctors to do the scan...
I was so frustrated...conferences are not organised the day beofre..they should have known before hand...What were the staff doing?? How can they inform me jus the day before...
The worse thing is that HSG scan has to be done just aft menses..so that means I have to wait another mense cycle.
Fortunately, this lady who called me was polite and nice...so I din want to be mean and scream at her...so i asked if she got a slot for the day...
Although it was fully booked..she manged to squeeze me in during lunch hr...


Also, Dr Loh asked hubby to do SA test on my CD8...so that aft that..we can continue "trying"..
But because to submit the specimen, you need to get an appt.
And the appt time is limited at mon-thurs. around 2.30-3.30pm and fri 8.30am -9.30am ONLY.
So if I wait till after my ovulation then ask hubby go do the SA test, then we'll have to wait 2 weeks later for the SA results.
by then it will be too late cos we have a follow-up appt with Dr Loh to review our test results...

Luckily my fren told me abt this parkway laboratories at MT .E hospital...so convenient. No appts need to send in specimen...jus walk in any time...and get the results the next day. And it cos only abt $37.45.
So end up.. hubby did test at MT E there.

But I guess public hospitals are like that ....

Now my new cycle just started. Not sure can make it to do SO-IUI ...have to call the ivf centre tmr to check my antenatal and rubella test results..if no ok...then have to wait again..sigh
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Hi lucky clover, thanks for your blessing
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Hope I will strike and I will pass the baby dusts to you all..

Sorry to hear about your great frustration. Public hospitals are all like that one, limited slots and always have to wait. You will need to call constantly to check on the status and ensure appointments are recorded by the staffs/nurses as scheduled.

so far, my hubby & I have done all the necessary tests at private hospital previously before we approach dr loh at KKH. Previously I am seeing the gynaes at private hospital but disappointed with the gynae. So decided to try Dr Loh.

Take it as a break now to "diao" your body before you start your SO-IUI. Good luck
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alamak,baby09.i paid $50+ for SA test.if i knew it would be cheaper at the lab u said,i'll go there.i agree with u.i think KKH is overloaded,hence all these last min appt changes.my appt for my 1st preg for down syndrome test was also changed.but fortunately,Dr.Kenneth Kwek was so nice.he even waited for me when i was running late.

oh,Dr.SF Loh.heard abt him in the forum b4.he specialises in IVF,right?

my hubby juz returned fr a work trip.was kind of nervous when i picked him up,coz we have been quarrelling so much abt getting pregnant,this is our 1st time apart in a while.i tot it did us lots of good.i wasn't sure wat his response to me would be.it didn't turn out too badly.i told him with IUI,don't have to worry abt timing,let the doc worry abt it & let us be the bunnies,juz bd when we r told.takes a lot of stress of me.i don't feel as physchotic as my previous cycles.

but i realised 4 days after iui,i'll be off to jap for more than 1 wk.worried abt complications.but it's a good trip,coz it'll take my mind off the 2WW.
 
Hi Monster...
I agree with you..IUI can help relieve the stress a little.
I was so stressed with up with doing the ovulation tests...tried Bd every alternate days...still no good news.

Is your Dr Kenneth Kwek from KKh?

Dr Loh is the Head & Senior Consultant (Reproductive Medicine, IVF, Laparoscopy & Hystero)....My fren working in KKH also told me that he has high ivf success rates...
my cousin did IVF under Dr Loh and succeed 1st attempt..She was the one who recommended Dr Loh to me.
I'll try SO-IUI 1st..if cannot..will go straight for IVF.
 
morn ladies

monster
dun walk too much agt IUI k ....rest that 2 days aft doing IUI.

alien
MS monster striked me liao ...i was puking my lunch & dinner out over the wkends leh! And the backache is killing. Duno why I got it so early coz I stopped wearing heels liao.
 
catmon
MS monster also found me. i feel so down and keep wanting to throw up. i feel very sick.. hang on there, we will make thru 1st trim very soon.

monster
all the best to you. try to relax in your 2ww.
 
hi lucky clover, i think dr loh did not give a clear instruction to the nurse or should i say the nurse at tps not much initiative? i went down to kkivf and din expect things to turn so well with nurse sara.

I had my rubella test and glad that nurse sara helped me and i got the report abt 2-3hrs later. happy that the result turn out well and i can go ahead with the soiui
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during the registeration, what i understand is that if i am not immune to rubella, i can still go ahead with the soiui, but need to sign a consent form that if i kena rubella during first trimester, there will be a harm to baby. if it really so, i will sign coz wont be so heng to get in contact with rubella ppl, but anyway, things turn well now.

i will be going back on wed to learn on self-injection on puregon. will drag hubby along and ask him to learn, inject for me. next mon scan and next week should be doing the iui liao
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btw, which stage are u in right now?

yes, monster, if possible, try to catch more rest after the iui, good luck to u too
 
Hi Gillian

So coincidence...I just checked my rubelle results today and it was okie....and my mense here too...so I can start SO-IUI liaos.
I'm scheduled for scan next monday too...
hehehe...maybe I can see you there
 
yes...i starting the purgeon wed too...

I collected my purgeon jabs this afternoon....
Actually..its quite easy to use. Its a pen like jab..not those syringe type...phew
The jabs cost abt $200+
 
yup, i was told its abt $200+ too. i will go on wed to start my first jab there and purchase the purgeon.. but will drag hubby along and ask him do for me. i dun dare do it myself
 
Btw, the purgeon has to be stored in the fridge...
When u purchase from the pharmacy, they will pack with ice in it for you...so if you not going home straight aft that... you may wana consider bringing a small ice box+ ice pack..

Luckily I took half day leave today...so head back home straight aft that. Otherwise, If i go back office...so pai seh to keep in the pantry fridge..kekek
 
hi monster
LC Foong is at Gleneagles? There is a very long thread abt him, can go read.. i was contemplating going to him then too... in the end, I opt for Dr LC Cheng of TMC, same as alien. He's pretty exp but its worth it because he is very fatherly and professional and gives me lots of assurance. Without him and God's grace, I prob would have lost my DS in my first trimester. I'll always remember breaking down and crying in my 5th week as I was wheelchaired to Dr Cheng's clinic due to very heavy bleeding and the nurse telling me, don't worry, you are in very good hands of Dr Cheng. If you dun mind switching gynae and the costs, i strongly recommend him
 
Monster, my hubby did his SA at pte hospital also. Never did SA at kkh before. So I don't know if it is much cheaper leh.

Yes, Dr Loh is specialize in IVF.

It would be good if u can spend some time with your hubby with no baby issue involved these few days. Try to improve the relationship if u can.

Are u going japan for business trip or holiday?
Shouldn't be a problem, just make sure u relax in japan and dun carry heavy stuffs
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Try not to walk too much.. have a leisure trip.
 
Been very hectic these few days due to DS having persistent high fever which refuses to go down, finally recovered and now he's down with fake measles... Any good news from anyone to share?


Catmon, MS will prob stay till 4 mths... My toilet bowl hugging days ended at 4mths and it was so blissful then :p is it confirmed twins? Hope its really twins for you!!
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hi baby
welcome and hope you strike this time round!!
 
Hi Gals

Just want to update my status.. I have failed my IUI... well, kinda of expecting it as the sperms produce during the IUI is not good... =(

Trying a few rounds of natural cycles first before gg to my second IUI....

Hi Alien,as Im thinking of switching to Dr Cheng, mind sharing the all in cost of IUI done with Dr LC Cheng? Including the scans? I did at ACJ, it's close to 1k all in cost....and it's clomid IUI....cos per scan is already 150 over....

For the gals in 2ww!! Good Luck ya!!!! and Relax..
For the gals gg to IUI soon, I think it's quite impt to ask ur hubby to go for SA test again few weeks prior to the IUI.... This is to ensure the quality and quantity still there.....

Like mine, my DH's sperms all along ok.. he did his like half a year ago.... but who knows during the IUI, his sperms quality and quantity drop tremendously!!! haizzz.......Luck is not on our side, hopefully second time will be better =)
 
morn ladies

Went for my scan yday ...still saw 2 sacs. The 2nd one is bigger than last wk while I can see the heartbeat of my 1st sac. Initially doc said the 2nd sac might be empty, after moving ard, he saw something & changed his mind & said that he will monitor it's growth in the scan 2 weeks later. Fr what we observe, the 2nd sac is as though 1 wk late. Doc wanna let it catch up. So that's my update.
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Wat say u all? Any chances for it to grow? Or issit just an empty sac?
 
morning ladies!

catmon,
talk to ur 2nd sac, ask her to grow and she's being loved by both daddy and mommy, and don't forget to sayang the 1st sac too. ;) good luck

me still waiting for my O, shld be this weekends or so. got to monitor le. have been having good BD session with my hubby lately. hee.. hope he can't last till this weekends. haha...

sigh~ my DS is sick agn. cough and phlegm. coughing during sleep and having no good sleep these nites. poor bb. it's his daddy and mommy fault lor, let him catch a cold at nite. haiz..
 
RedTea
Yah will keep talking to them to encourage them to grow. Thankie
I tink the flu bug is ard these few weeks...lots of my colleagues are oso falling sick. Do take care of DS ya.
 
BB_K
my non-medication cycle with LC was almost 1k. with clomid will definitely more exp. his consultation & scanning cost $60 & $80 respectively.

catmon
happy & excited for you! finger crossed both growing well & healthy!!
 
Hi Lucky clover,
yes,Dr.Kenneth Kwek is fr KKH.he's the head of maternal foetal med at KKH.so he's doesn't do reproductive med.fortunately for me,i got stressed up with all these ovulation thingy only recently.previously,it was all based on calculating the dates.i think i've been obsessed with these ovulation thingy only for the past 3 mths.i recently bought a saliva ovulation kit (reusable!!! saves heaps of $$) when i was in australia.like u,i BD every alternate night after the end of my period.but to no avail.actually,i believe if i tried a bit longer,i'll conceive naturally.but it's coz of my hubby's attitude that i decided to try IUI or even IVF.very difficult to please hubby & he knows that,i sometimes suspects he 'blackmails' me.so very difficult for me.i have to tolerate,please him etc.i'm sick & fed up of his attitude,so i decided to have IUI done.

ladies,
those who have told me to try & improve my rlnshp with my hubby,i have good news to share.i think this is on the same scale as the happiness i'll experience if i get pregnant.my hubby had a change of attitude after i came back fr oz.don't know if it's the time spent apart,or the realisation that his good friend's wife is preggers again that is spurring him on.sigh.the whole world is pregnant except me.anyway,when i got back fr oz,he was away for work.so i pioked him up when he returned,he suddenly said he missed me! 1 wk only.seriously,i have been so hurt & angry with his attitude that i didn't even miss him when i was away.that night,we made love.not bd.i'm sure everyone who has gone thru' TTC realises there's a difference b/w make love & bd.it was GOOD! hehe...wow,it has been some time since i enjoyed making love.hehe...& he said things he hasn't said to me in the longest time (sweet nothing lah).i was pleasantly surprised.i feel i can forgive him a little for the hurt & pain he has put me thru'.our rnlshp is on the rd to improvement.i always say once a couple is in love,everything will turn out well.i think if u're in love,making out sessions will be better.sperm quality will also be better,& u'll be more relaxed,so ur body will be more prepared for pregnancy.this is juz my thought.

BB_K,
where is ACJ? y were u put on clomid? u r not ovulating properly? aiyoh,my heart goes out to u.must be painful.i'm very worried of the outcome of IUI as well,esp after spending so much $$$.mentally,i don't know how i'll cope.seriously,i'm so sick & tired of ttc,i feel like chanelling my energy into coping with the fact i'm not able to conceive,rather than spend the energy on ttc.as we all know,it takes a lot of determination & willpower.how did u know of ur hubby's sperm quality? the doc told u b4 insemination? i'm worried too,coz the problem is hubby's sperm quality not very good as well.not swimming fast enough!
 
Hi Monster

ACJ is at TMC... Im O'ing properly.gynae mentioned that with Clomid, chances is higher cos there will be 2 and more eggs...

As for hubby's sperm quality, yes the doc told me before insemination...that's y we know the chances are not high....

I will try IUI again in 3mths time....
 
hi ladies,

monster,
great to hear tt your relationship with hubby has improved for the better. Yup, nothing is more great than feeling in love. Good luck for your upcoming cycle!!

catmon,
wo-wee... i login just to see your update. hope 2nd sac grows with 1st sac... good luck!
 


catmon,
great news that the 2nd sac is still growing.
must saiyang and encourage the 2nd,as well not neglecting the first.

hope to hear more good news in 2weeks times.

btw ask u, after your iui, were u in very bloated state.
ha, my stomach can bloat till say..hmm..3-4mths preggy?? hard!!
not sure its the clomid after-effect, the oral pill after iui, or the antibiotics??/
but glad the pain has more or less eased off. still quite cautious of fast walking though.
a week more and can test le...crossing fingers for good news

monster,
great news too.....jiayou..hope u'll fall back in love as u once used to be
 

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