(2009/09) September 2009 MTBs


ss dropped
after 1 wk of not pumping, my SS has dropped!! From 160-180ml for both sides, now i can only yield 100ml!! Started pumping ytd again cos i need to stock up EBM so that i can go for my gynae appt and facial appt on thurs!! but so sad my ss has dropped.. must b insufficient rest after i moved home cos i was taking care of bb myself, doing housework and not eating well... i need fenugreek to boost ss!! wat else can i do to boost ss if rest is not possible?
 
rach - haha i also nv see the bp on bravado bras. cos was waiting for delivery in aug and delivered in end sept so din pop in the forum! i wanna get also! but wads the diff between the original and the silk bras? also the nursing tanks from glamourmum and bravado?
 
Hi Pam, for the medela pump causing sore nipple, could it be the funnel being too small?

I have bought a bigger funnel which suck a bigger portion of the nipple, so that the tip of the nipple is not sore. TMC is selling the biggger funnel ( 1 size bigger ) and it is cheaper than getting from mums & babes.

Try if it helps.
 
kam
my left oso only hv a few squirting holes compared to my right. why quite a number of us got v lazy left boobs huh?

i think for my case, its fenugreeks plus latching plus pumping. i took 3 pills 3 times a day n for that day alone i just kept giving baby my left if not enuf then i switch to right n pump after feed. within 24 hrs my left incr by 10-20ml. second day also same and incr by another 10-20ml. but third day onwards i only pumped in the day and latched at nite due to my busy schedule. and i pumped 30 mins instead of the usual 15 mins. i think by the 4th or 5th day my left supply came back. but my left will always be abt 20-30ml lesser than right and that was how its always been for me from the start so i never bother to make both boobs equal cos generally one boob will always produce slightly lesser than the other anyway.

i think i quite blessed the fenugreeks work fast for me. like mwerkz, i latched all the way for first 5 weeks and hardly pumped. and when i started pumping i only get 100-110ml 3 hourly. after taking half a bottle of fenugreeks, my yield went up to 130ml and today i nearly finished my first bottle and i can get 150-180ml 3 hourly. i think im quite satisfied now so i hv since reduced to 2 pills 3 times a day and hope to "wean" off from fenugreeks soon.

i read form ur blog u have sent ur gal to nanny already? so i assume u can only latch her at nite too?
 
oh dear, im out of milk storage , i only depends on my free glass bottle from tmc.....

guess now i have to stopped pumpin lioa
 
Rach,

I also want the bravado bra contact. hehe.. I saw your post but didn't realise the wonders of BRAVADO till now. Esp. after since Shelled testify for it.. hehe..

Also,
I have a extremely lazy left boob.. Am contemplating to resort to Fenugreek. But am still trying not to take it first. I really dun wan to smell like maple syrup although i love it on my pancakes..
 
sonnig - thanks! will call and order now!
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mei76,
u oso lookig for rocker ah? i saw u at wtb thread..

im so confuse. soo many model. but they seems the same, isit the pattern ah?
 
<font face="comic Sans Ms"><font color="0000ff">Cookiezz</font>

U ordered 2 bottles of fenugreek from my spree.. do you still want. I've not hear from you or get your transfer. Let me know so I can proceed to post out your chilling panels</font>
 
I'm also using the Medela Freestyle, so much more relaxing than when I was previously using the Avent Manual. But then hor my left nipple sometimes will suddenly have sharp pain and become rock hard leh...don't know why like that
 
mama_to_6Js,

Thanks. Mine is the lazy right boob :) I don't want to take supplement for now. Let me see how it goes for this week since I am pumping more now. Yes you are right, my girl has started to go full day care under her nanny, so I can only latch at night. Luckily my girl can still suck well from my nipples.

BTW, thanks for reading my blog :)
 
Mei76,
is a lady who liased wif me - no problem I can post on thread for u alternatively for faster respond u can pm me ur contact.

Shelled,
Don't mentioned - tis is a thread where by we shared information -
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Mamato6js,
her whizzing sound is quite bad - just one nite stay The hospital bill is $1700. Luckily can claim from insurance man. If not physically and financial all suffer.
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Jenifur,
Is reli tough each time she sees the nurse she scream and cried as like someone torturing her. more over I need to pump my milk - everything is in a mess. I can't take it le so requested to discharge and nurberlise her at hm.
 
mummiies

how to prevent bb poo poo leak from diapers?
i change diapers 3-4hrly and i have tried, pampers,drypers,&amp; mamypoko all leak poopoo..

wat cause poo poo to leak?
 
wah shiok! slept from 8.30 to 11am! mother in law helped to look after didi.. now head abit heavy think long time no sleep in late.

flower4.. u asking if i wanna sell my rocker? not nw ley.. after didi dun wanna sit then i sell.. yest he napped twice in the rocker.. so happy! n i think both my kids like e vibration lo..

i'm out of storage for milk too.. only has 10 glass bottles, nw 9 is in e freezer.. rach.. can i stil purchase the milk trays?
jen... when will the milk bags arrived?

dream feed: meaning bb din cry/ fuss the we just bottle feed? we can bottlefeed bb when he is lying down flat on the cot? dun need to carry him up slightly inclined?
 
Kat,
u really assure me to get the rocker.. u thik i shld get new one?

my bb now fuss &amp; fuss rcently i duno wat to do, cuz he only have bb cot, no other stuff lioa....

me toooo no storage, now i get ready stock milk bags.. from forum..25bags for SGD10, and retail all damn exp.. 20 bags at s$20

my supply go up, but no storage bags argh... i took bai fong wan recently maybe due to ta my supply up heee

Kat ,now ur bb is on how many hourly feed ? nap is how long ah?
 
<font face="Comic Sans ms"><font color="0000ff">HappyKae</font>

It was a nitemare when I had to neb my gal. She was still v young den only bout 7mths plus. She will start screaming &amp; crying, e very moment I take out the nebuliser. And she had to be on it so often cuz kept having recurring bronchitics. M so glad tt I decided to seek alternative, rather den just neb &amp; neb

You've to take care ya.</font>
 
rach> keke. no hurry for de tops anyway =p juz asking for fun =x

erms. but i tot bb's tear duct only develop after 4wks or something. not very sure when oso

jenifur> lol. actually for nite feeds its ok for me. i let him fuss n wake up. but once i feed him, he falls back into sleep. nite time is olways like this. but having to wake up n feed him itself oredi spoil my sleep. cos i m de kind who is hard to fall asleep one. so once he wakes me up, i feed him, den i'll go pump out de excess

kam> i oso have one side of "not-so-productive-boob". think de best is to let bb do magic to it. basically latch bb to tat lazy boob n pump de hardworking side =p

mamato6js> i wish to tbf for more den 6mths. but once i return to wk, i will be moving office. n seriously i dun think there is a nursing room there. i dun even haf a cubicle for myself cos we are doing lab work. so it's pretty open concept. really wonder where do i pump when i return to wk. but at hm, i will latch bb on as often as possible, or pump more often. prob is i dun have a license. else i would haf drive hm during lunch hr to pump n store.

of cos if everything permits, i wuld like to offer bb tbf for as long as possible

oo. u take 3X3fenugreek a day? i start with 2X3, tot it's enugh, but ya, i do see increment. hope it's really fenugreek working =p

milkyway> jiayou. all of us here are trying our best to up supply. have been waking up twice at nite to pump. once at 1am, de other at 5am. i dare not pump in de day cos my boy drinks more in de day. n if i pump, i'll leave him with not enugh milk

flower4> yaya. sometimes it leaks. esp at the top or sometimes from the btm when bb poo too much n i refuse to change his diapers =x cos bb poo is very liquidy, machiam like oil =x

ops. once u stop ur supply will drop leh

toking abt glass bottles, i run out of glass bottle caps instead. he is at his grandma's wake. not sure if it's ok to get him to go buy for me -_-" else i cant pump liaos. maybe i shuld start using milk bags. but wasteful hor? milkbags can store 200+ml, each pump i only yield btw 75-145ml. maybe shuld combine 2pumping session milk n start storing in milkbags liaos

cookiezz> really becos of fenugreek bb fusses? my boy really fusses more now. yesterday gave him n he got his pacifier. n juz wanna say tat pacifier is really one of best invented item for bb. cos it really keeps him shut. save my nipples from all his no milk suckling n vomit out later -_-"
 
michelle,
leak how can dun change? my bb romper already stain with poopoo ytd my bedsheet oso stain argh... i change 3-4hrly diapers leh... u thik is the rubber thingy in the diaper no working?

ya milk bag will be wasteful lor.. for us low yeild... i stillduno how to combine ebm.. very worry about the Temp.

soo good u bb will take pacifier, my refuse and keep crying now no voice.... soooo sad....then give breast he suckle abit and cry.. i think he bloated but still cant find any other way of pacifier himself, then he suckle my breast and vomit out BM and cry , then no other source of pacifying again, he look for my breast again , and once suckle he cry.. think he really really very bloated with milk..





how long will bb recover from out of voice ah?
 
Michelle - i figured it may be fenugreek cos after one mummy commented, i realised tt baby really did fuss more for the few days i took. so tt day i immediately stopped taking. good thing about fenugreek is after i stopped, supply was still ok. until ytd when it was really low, i took one and it my supply did go back haha! may be psychological also... but baby has lesser of tantrums... cos he will fuss and cry and scream for no reason and i am also not sure if its colic. tried to massage his stomach and he would be "more angry" and cry harder... these few days much better le, so i will only take when i need it lor. hehe my 2 cents worth...
 
katherine> u can actually go to the hospital to get more bottles. i took like 50+ altoogether, all at diff timing =x using 30+ liao. cos all not stored full. so i can mix n match the amt to cater to bb's growin demands =p

milkbags> i got 2 boxes of lansinoh 50pcs one. those urgent can come pick up fr me first, den buy back return me nxt time. i stay bukit batok. so if convenient for u, u can let me know.

flower4> y ur milkbag so costly? i rmb i buy 50pcs less than 20bucks or so.
 
michelle - wah u took so many! i took 20+ and i thought quite a lot liao haha!! but i only used about 8. been alternating them. can they be used to stored ebm and store in the freezer??
 
michelle,
You work in a lab? Where? Biopolis?

Ya, my baby seems to be happy with the not-so-productive-boob, but she would for next feed earlier if I latch her with this boob as compared to the good boob. But now I cannot latch already lor :-(

For storage milk, why not consider Avent VIA cup (or something similar with other brand)? Can store any amount, can combine 2 pumpings, and can recycle the cup. I find it quite good leh.

Flower,
One night my girl also using my nipples for sucking comfort. She doesn't want milk, cos just fed her, but she has the urge to suck so she suck very hard, then milk sure comes out, and she got angry, pull my nipple so hard that I dare not let her suck anymore. So gave her pacifier. She accepted it this time (she refused when we offered her when she was younger), my nipples are saved!!!

Try offering again when your baby turns older. The experienced nanny said usually babies have strong urge to suckle between 2 to 5 months. My girl will be 2 months tomorrow, so quite true.

Last time my boy also started pacifier when he was 1.5 months. Then self-weaned at 4th month. What I did was pull the pacifier out of his mouth after he fell asleep, so he has less attachment to the pacifier. Think this helped him to wean off easier.
 
flower4> lol. cos i change bb sometimes 8-10hrly. esp at nite. i change him at 10pm, nxt change 6am. cos i simply too lazy =x

u wan combine ebm, put both diff pumping session one in fridge. wait till temp stabilise den put them tgt. i tried this way. so far no prob.

oo. my bb at first oso spit out pacifier. juz keep giving to him. sometimes he fall asleep, he spit it out, den no need give le. so he dun really use pacifier long oso

for more milk bottle. juz knock on de door of nursery, say u need some glass bottles. dey will usually give one.

cookiezz> i not sure my boy fuss becos of wat. cos his great grandma passed away. n since de call came, he have been fussing. so i dunno isit bb understands. so i try to be more patient with him dese few days. but i started fenugreek few days earlier. dunno wat is de cause of his fussing. but he is really quiet when we go to de wake.
 
Hi Flower4,
Yup.. Been looking at it at the departmental store. I think there is two types. One is metal frame and another is plastic. But bascially, both should function identically..

My gal wants to be carried all the times she is awake.. Sometimes I put her on the netter rocker and manually rock her.. She will quiet down.. so I am thinking if the vibration of the FP rocker will calm her too.. so I no need to be there all the time to rock her.. :p

Didnt want to get the swing one cos I am afraid my older girl want to "try" it too. haha.. My older gal can still sit on the FP rocker if she wants. :p
 
michelle,
after combine the ebm then put back to Freezer ah?

i only have 12 glass bottles from TMC... at tmc we cant go in any o how at the admit room one.. they have limitation.. wonder how can i get into nursery room at tmc? ned to get any pass or room number to get in?

yours mt A dun need room number to get into nursery room ah? cuz tmc nursery room in at admit rooms lor..
 
Kam
fyi, the VIA cups can only be sterilised for max 4-5 times. after that u can recycle for other used but cant sterilise anymore. i think its becos of the material its made from that cant stand repeated sterilisation under high heat. im very paranoid abt plastics now esp to contain milk that goes into the babies body.
 
<font color="ff00cc">Michelle</font>
I also find the suction not powerful enough, but Pamelia get sore nipples from pumping mah, so I guess she needs to get a pump that's gentle? You buy over her Medela lah! Then can try try.


<font color="ff00cc">Lina</font>
Not too sure about Bravado underwired bras. I don't intend to run risk of getting blocked ducts, so all underwired nursing bras are a no-go for me. I got the Bravado Original Nursing Bra (ONB) and Body Silk Seamless Bra (BSS). Both have no wires. but still provides ample support.

There are nursing tube bras from SPRING Maternity (quality not so good), La Leche League and even from a few of the nursing bra BPs in the BP section. Go have a look? I think there are a few thin-strapped ones as well, but cos all photos, cannot be certain it's thin or thick strap.


<font color="ff00cc">Kam</font>
Empty out the "lazy boob" more often lor. If latching on full-time, then have to squeeze in pumping sessions specially to empty it. Actually in my case, the lazy side also has multiple streams of milk while pumping, just that it doesn't fill up as quickly as the other side, it has less qty every 3hrs.
 
mei76,
u just reminded me.. i think rocker have vibration the swing doesnt have right?

im still very confusing..

any departmental store u come across with all display out the rocker &amp; swing, so i can test them out ? cuz i went ot KP all in the box
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Kiki,
u using FB swing right, its too can be dismantle and become rocker, does the rocker have the vibration option?
 
flower4, I think swing is the swinging motion, different from the vibration. So far, all I see in departmental store are all in the box.
 
<font color="ff0000">cookiezz</font>
hahaha...actually i do sms all those i have the numbers as well..and i think may be interested de..
ahhaha.. but i dun have ur number...else i would have sms u..
ask some of the mummies here, they always get spammed by me.. whahha..
but i got unlimited free sms...so it doesnt matter to me.. hehe..
aslong as the mommies dun get too irritated.. :p

I very bad at stating the difference... u ask shelled.. hahaa... Sorry shelled...always ask u to do the explanation..
coz these are all recommended by u anyway.. whhaa... but they are all really very good..
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ONB is mainly like a sports bra without padding...
BSS is with a thin padding..which is removable...

<font color="ff0000">Wifey</font>
my supplier has the Medela spare parts which is cheaper than anywhere else.. hehehe.. :p

<font color="ff0000">enxuan</font>
shelled was the one who reccomeded it lo..at the 2nd gathering. wahhaha..and most of us have been crazy over it since.. hhee. :p

<font color="ff0000">Kris</font>
you are right.. i just contacted my supplier... she dun mind conducting another one... hehe.. :p
but she'll check what sizes and color available first...
coz Bravado always OOS. haaa....

<font color="ff0000">Collecting Diapers at Pasir Ris</font>
I'm gg to collect my diapers now.. wooohoo... bought frm the BP thread...

http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/cgi-bin/forumboard/show.cgi?581296/2678751

Anyone stays near and wanna tong pang..let me know.. my dad sending me there..hehehehe.. :p

SMs me pls.. i going out NOW.. :p

Byebye!!

Those ibnterested in Bravado, PM me.. I'll reply later when i'm back.. :p
 
mei76,
all in the box ah argh...

Jul,
the rocker vibration isit battery operated? which type of battery ah? does it use up very fast?
 
flower
don't think there's anything much you can feed your baby with except milk leh. no young to drink anything else. even water cannot feed too much also

as for your diapers, could it be you never adjust the sides properly after wearing? you need to pull the elastic band out
 
Mummies,
out of topic question.

any one know how much will it cost to operate on knee cap like old age problem, think my mum need operate on her knee cap.

if go by poly clinic wil it be cheaper , how much cash does it need &amp; how much cpf can deduct?
 
flower4> basically, 1st pump, u put de milk in de fridge, 2nd pump put milk in fridge for maybe 30mins. temp sure more or less stabilise to same. den combine them n freeze them. note tat do not leave emb in fridge for more den 6hrs if u intend to freeze. not sure where i read this though. this is wat i do. if i forget n leave in fridge for more than 6hrs, i will juz consume them within 4days

den u juz go mt a get n pretend u deliver there lo. hahaha. anyway i go get so many times. nobody ask me who m i. dey will juz ask how many bottles u wan. some nurse very nice. will even help u call other nursery to prepare de bottles for u. usually i one time go to de 3 nursery to collect. only went once got like 30+ bottles. den when i discharged, dey ask me if i bf, i say yes, den dey give me 10 more bottles

even pampers n mamypoko leaks? den either diapers too big or too small liao. cannot really follow de weight recommendation one. my colleague was telling me his nephew is so small. all de diapers he wear leaks. so maybe urs same prob

shelled> she not using medela rite? lol. actually hubby's fren selling her ameda pump 1mth back. not sure if sold. haha. dunno if pamelia wants. buti scared to intro. in case anything spoil, i'm like middle man with no commission, but a whole load of blames =x

btw, have u started buying any parts for ur ameda pump? let me know when u wan buy. buy tgt. cos i oso wan. got phobia of my machine breaking. cos sometimes pry very hard to open de top suction side. so tight n so hard to open. if it kongs out before i buy spare, dat's it. how to pump???

kris> yaya. tat time i forget to put the side elastic bands out, so it leak fr de side. haha. surprisingly, 1mth time only leak one time when all along i nv pull. =x
 
flower4, I figured out leakage could be either due to overflowing or diaper too big or not worn tightly enough. Experienced mummies, any other reasons? I also realised that pampers and huggies not that absorbant. I am trying drypers now.

As for the rocker, maybe you should buy those really cheap ones, those netted basic ones and see if you bb likes it. If so, then invest in the FP one. I don't think there is any auto function for rocking so cheap or ex, you still have to manually rock them.

I was the one who said Fernugreek causes wind but not everyone will have this side effect. Was told by my LC.

Using via cups or milk bottles for storage of bm
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Like mama to 6j, I am quite skeptical about heating plastic and even glass cups. So what I do is to transfer the milk to the milk bottle first before heating the milk. By right glass should be able to withstand temperature well but I remembered someone mentioning that these glass bottles may crack and furthermore, from an extreme cold temp, you put the bottle in hot water, I am not sure if the glass can adjust to the temp so fast.
 


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