(2009/08) August 2009 MTBs

irene, you brave la. If I feel the pain, I will go hospital cos I scare later no time for epi.

My colleague took her time for her #2 and later when reach hospital 6cm dilated then nurse say no time liao. She says she nearly die from the pain. So I am not risking this time. Wahahaha... I kiasi.
 


bean

dunno yet. Still waiting for my hb to tell me coz it's his colleague who helped us get. His colleague's family is in wholesale medicinal herbs biz.
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God knows we don't have that much money to splurge on herbs.
 
Mashy : Oh u know already tell me Ok , My frenz have a quotation $260 for full confirmation herbs and I yet to get from her
 
My feet are swollen now also. 2nd time already. My mum told me that for some people, if swollen for the 3rd time means its time to delivery liao... dont know how true though.
 
fifi, try putting your feet up when you are home or even at your desk, it will help reduce the water retention to your feet.
 
bean

$260 for everything? so cheap? What did u buy? I've a long list. Just the good grade dong cong cao which i got for my son already $260.
 
Mashy : her quote give me as below :-

10bag - for bath
1mth - supply - red date drink supply
1mth - herb for making soup (some for extra one for dessert )

What is inside for those herb me dunno la only Know is good for confirment .
Problem is I also DUNNO my mum knoW how to use it a nOt heehee . She say her dad shop supply to those CL agency or CLady and they mark up the price .
 
bean

oic. So they're prepacked stuff? I got basically from the list that mich gave us previously and asked my CL what else to buy. I think Dang Shen and DAng Gui are the most ex in the list. And also, they've different grades. Eg Dang gui can be as cheap as $5 per 100g to $$40 per 100g. Better check with her abt the grades of these stuff. As advised by the list, i got the top grades ones. Not sure how much i'll be charged though.

I didn't get any herbs for bathing, going to use lemon grass instead.

BTW, wanna ask those who took dang gui for their #1 births, did it affect your milk supply? coz heard that dang gui will affect milk supply.
 
BBnGG, I am stubborn lah. I buay gam wan the 1st one I cannot make it without the epi so this time wanna see if I can do it without epi.

Bean, the observation ward is like the 4 bedder kind. 4 beds with curtains only. Got toilet and bathroom in it too.

10cm lor...no 10cm cannot deliver.

I tell you hor, I am not scared of injection one but the epi injection really very different from usual injection. I can feel it when the doc inject and its not comfy.
 
Irene : Ya I thinK i in the observation ward . say abt epi I scare , let me on real time act . I MUST BE BRAVE . 10cm...omg I can imaging it open until 10cm big .

MAshy : Ya i think is prepack, maybe is not as good grade one . Lemom grass go whr buy ?
 
Bean,when the contraction comes, you will SCREAM for epi eventhough the needle is so thick!
I can't remember much about the epi injection but I can remember how terrible contraction pain is! That's why I keep telling my gynae, I don't want induction this time!
 
bear,
I oso thinking of going thru it without epidural leh. My mum kept encouraging me to go without it ... she said she can do it for all 5 of us, why can't i do it?

mashy/ bean
Speaking of confinement herbs, i got an email from someone for the herbs and it's only $180 and they deliver to your home leh. Dunno good or not but here's the list:

Herbal Soup :: SGD $180 (24 packets)
The main ingredients in the herbal soup pack are:
Angelica当归
Chinese Date 红枣
Radix Astragali 北芪
Radix Ginseng 人参
Tangshen Root党 参
Szechwan Lovage Rhizome 川芎
Rehmannia Root 熟地
Vojvodina Fungus 茯苓
Boxthorn Fruit 枸杞
Radix polygoni multiflori 首乌
Cortex eucommiae 杜 仲

<u>1st week - 3 packs</u>
Cleansing and Calming Soup
To expel out the clot blood and wind in the body after giving birth. Calms
the nerves and getting rid of the 'coldness' in the body.
第一周 （3 份）
生化汤
化瘀血，生新血，帮助排恶露。养血安神。 祛虚冷。

<u>2nd week - 7 packs</u>
Health Revival Soup
Initiates the healing of the body system.
Aid in improving Qi and Blood circulation in mother's body system.
第二周 （7 份）
平补药汤
促进新陈代谢， 健胃补脾， 利湿，补中益气。
调整恢复，帮助之后的其它补品的吸收。

<u>3rd week - 7 packs</u>
Energy Replenishment Soup
Aids in enriching blood deficiency.
To Nourish and Enriches mother's body organs - heart, liver, spleen, lungs,
kidney and Qi(Energy)
Strengthening on the ligaments and lower back bone to prevent aching after
delivery.
第三周 （7 份）
温补药汤
益补气血， 补益肝肾， 强筋骨。
防止产后腰膝酸痛，提振精神。

<u>4th week - 7 packs</u>
Health and Beauty Soup
Strengthening on the body systems such as lung, and improving Qi.
Reduce/prevent hair loss, beautify skin complexion and improves eyesight.
Strengthening immune systems.
第四周 （7 份）
滋补药汤
滋阴润肺， 益血生津， 补充元气。
理气养胃，益肤色， 养颜美容，增强免疫力。
 
morning mummies

Those going for the lunch. Enjoy. Too bad unable to take leave and join u ladies...

kiki

My friend say is true that swollen leg for the 3rd time will give birth once the swollen is gone the 3rd time. My friend after 3rd time she gave birth liao....
 
bean

ya, if prepacked, likely the grade not so good type. Coz who will wanna buy expensive pack?

lemon grass can get at any wet mkt/supermarket.
 
ladies,
who is updating the chart?

can someone update my edd...
confirm that i will be using the cal edd...
cos my gynae has been using that for the past 2 appt...

my edd is 24 aug
 
Pegsfur, so far people I know who can do it without epi is natural kind...not induction.

That time my induction is break waterbag and put on drip. I ren for 2hrs trying the laughing gas but I dunno how to use it then I ask for the jab in the thigh. The nurse walk out and return to ask me again to confirm then I immediately tell her 'I don't want that jab already...give me EPIDURAL!!!' Wah laoz...the doc only came like 1 hr later with the epi!!! I was standing on the bed with pain while waiting for her.
 
Irene : Ya I lot of ppl tell me that , scare and excited as In my life 1st bb and 1st time have to stay in hosiptal . Scare = pain , excited = bb look like who

Irene can explain what is induction?
 
Pegsfur

My mum also went to the medical hall and the auntie will pack this kind of herbal that u had posted. But I'm not sure if the ingredient is the same. But what I know is natural birth and c-section ingredient will be different....
 
Bean,my friend went through induction but hers different from mine. Her gynae insert pill into her vaginal to soften the cervix and then wait for dilation.
Mine no insert pill, just break waterbag and put on drip. I think the drip is some hormones thingy to speed up the contraction.

So I think if you are not really dilating yet and not ready to give birth, gynae have to insert pill to soften the cervix. If you are already dilated and having mild contraction then can do without the insert pill.
 
woa...im thinking of gg c-sect but think it will be quite painful on the healing process...

anyone opted for c-sect directly w/o considering natural?

My gynae advised actually c-sect is cheaper than natural with epi and assisted delivery.

I afraid of the pain of the labour process so thinking of c-sect.
 
Regarding prepacked herbs for confinment :

Fu Hua got the list on what herbs to get for confinment. They can even prepack for you.
 
mashy
I oso dunno wor ... cos i not very 'well-versed' with herbs .. so dunno how much they actually cost. Dunno where they got my email &amp; emailed to me de, so thot of sharing lor
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bear
Hahaha .. ya, plus everyone's threshold for pain is different so really have to depend on the actual situation
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That time i was induced also like that ... ah wong told me no epidural needed but she said can ask for pain killers. So i asked the nurse for it, also took them an hour to bring it to me. But aft taking, no effect at all!! Told the nurse and she said will give me jab ... aft jab, felt weak all over but pain only relieved alittle, and not long after, Owen came out le. Hiaz ....

SL
So normally how much will yr mum spent?
 
celine, your previous induction got insert pill? Or just break waterbag and put on drip?

Think natural birth is good lah...coz everything just happen so fast and no need to wait or think. I am those who definitely cannot sleep even with epi while waiting.
 
mashy/bean/irene
kekek my waterbag oso burst ard 1130pm and i reach hospital around 1hr later.. but then i think more impt or better is to have early morning delivery, so that u have more rest in the hospital. i delivered at 7pm the following day and the 2 nites passed soo quickly, before i know it.. oredi going home liao..

chinese herbs concoction..
i got all of mine frm EYS during the 20% discount on birthday monthfor members.. very worth it...EYS shld have good grade stuffs right? got everything, the red/blue dates, dang shen, danggui.. dried longan, pearl powder, confinement wine, ginseng wine. BFW..birdnests/chicken essence.dong chong cao (for now). spent ard 2.5k that time.

kekekek confinement all taken well care off..my CL will be with me for 2mths.. again my onli bottleneck is my boy.... u can plan/prepare everything.. but if the boy's not cooperative...
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Pegsfur, I also got that list you received.

I keep having very mild stomache these few days. Dunno if its my stomach weak or what. Heng tmr going to see ah wong already so can ask her.

So that time your pain is bearable since you didn't need epi?
 
pegsfur
u stay in punggol right? why dun u visit the EYS in compasspt. got one senior sales lady quite good in her recommendation... not pre-packed but she will tell u all that u need.
 
bear,

Bearable???!! Aiyoh .. unbearable oso boh bian cos ah wong said no epidural .... lucky thing is when i really buay tahan le den Owen came out shortly. But that's also abt 12hrs of labour pain leh.

I oso keep getting tummy ache these days leh ... let me know wat ah wong said when u come back from her place ok?
 
pegsfur

we went to recce at hock hua to check out the prices first and was shocked to see the price difference in dang shen and dang gui. If cheap, really very cheap and small pc type. The ex ones are very big lor. Guess it also depends on how u view these herbs, if it's important to be good grade or just sui bian so long as it's in the soup can already. I thot since can get at wholesale price, i might as well get the good grade ones.

Anyway i'm getting CL, so will get her to cook all these for me. Last time for #1, i just catered for 2 weeks, so didn't bother abt herbs. For the 1st 2 weeks, i didn't even ask my aunt to make the herbal soups for me coz i was totally clueless on these.
 
smurfy,

Oh ok ... maybe i can just bring the list and ask her to get it for me oso.
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How abt Hock Hua? My mum seems to be a fan of Hock Hua, always buy from them de
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smurfy

wow! 2.5k!

I haven't checked how much Dom I've left. Dom can be kept perpetually one right? Coz i opened the Dom a while back already. Don't intend to drink too much dom though since doing to bf.
 
pegsfur
since ur mum is a fan of hock hua.. she shld have a regular shop that she goes to right? i think going to a regular shop that u/ur mum knows oso helps.. then u go along with her to that shop and learn more lor :p
 
mashy,

I c ... so after comparing SL's herbs and the ones i listed, $180 is really really cheap compared to SL's $2.5k. Maybe i'll get those in-between cos i'm not exactly particular abt them. But the $180 one seems like cmi hor?
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Irene,
My induction is the same as you. Break water bag &amp; put on drip. I think i can really bear pain. survive on laughing gas only. Hopefully this time is natural &amp; very fast can give birth.
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To all ladies who are going for buffet, Enjoy !
 
mashy
err the 2.5k inclusive of the dong cong cao that i am drinking these days..

err i think unopened DOM can be kept longgggggggg but opened ones...even after closing tightly, there would be some kind of evaporation right? i got one bottle of DOM on standby.. but was told of the high alcoholic content so got the wine frm EYS which tastes soo nice...

hahaha i think both of us set to close shop.. wanna do a good confinement this time round.. the 1st time round, i never touch one drop of wine before..
 
Irene, I was also induced cos my boy refused to come out after 41 weeks. My gynea did insert a pill to soften the cervix, then the drip then breaking my water bag.

I also share the same tots as Celine, scare I really karang kabo if i go natural. Wahahaha...
 
piggytoh
i did not touch a single drop of wine for my 1st delivery, so i really dunno how to answer.. this time round i got one bottle as standby... see what my CL says.. if never use.. will pass over to my mum in future :p
 
congratz to mummies given birth
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Shirley,
can help updat my edd?

scan edd is 1 sept but gynae is using the cal edd for the last 2 appt...

so confirm that my edd is 24aug
 
pegsfur

what's cmi?

smurfy

hmm... at most don't drink lor. if not can get my bro to get since he flies ard so often.

yah, not sure whether i wanna close shop yet, but do a better confinement just in case. hahaha.

720mum
my gal turned only at 34 weeks. So still have chance. If not, if your gynae is experienced enough, can manually turn.
 

pegsfur,fu hua is hock hwa lor. If your mum is regular then she shd be a member so got discount. That day I was at the hock hwa hougang mall and they lady keep asking me to buy ginseng and dunno what coz got promo.

Shizuka, thought you love buffet so how come not going for the aqua lunch?

Smurfy, I also didn't touch any liquor for no. 1. Don't intend to this round too.

Piggytoh, if you want get dom let me know. Think my ks hb bought a few but I have no intention to drink and I am closing factory liao.
 
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