(2007/03) March 2007 MTBs
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Autum: yes i enjoyed it.. but pay nt as good as it is protrayed.... and the quality of learning .. was not what i wanted.. to be honest.... too much focus on results.. where is the learning? u see the students in sec schools now..no more joy.. so dull their eyes.. maybe u can appreciate why i still 'naively' believes in PBL and so daring apply for RP.. despite lack of qualifications.. think the interviewers saw my enthusiam.. and i spoke with conviction.. haha 
so CED is 'good' dept ?
so CED is 'good' dept ?
autumn:
err... what i meant by shun qi zi ran was not exactly leaving babies to survive on their own. i do believe that baies have their own potential and such. for example things like development, i do know for sure my baby will walk and run by say age 3.. so i am not worried. even if he is slow in talking, walking, eating solids, it's ok. cos he will not grow up not doing those things. i m very assured. what i meant was that babies need more than these basic stuff we are able to give or nurture. what is the difference between a normal academic student and a special stream one? not that one is born more intelligent than the other. but that he/she has more chances to learn, to excel and to perform. we can choose to give our children the basic. or we can choose to give them the best. i choose wat i can afford within my means. and i hope it will be one of the best. isn't that the reason or working hard and making big bucks? what's the point of earning money and not spending them on our children?
and btw..beethovan has the most loving mum! think u got ur facts wrong... he was born in a talented family of musicians and had a loving mum to nurture him and had great teachers to teach him and inspire him. einstein and newton both had poor childhoods, but they excelled thru sheer hard work when they are older and wiser. like i mentioned, people can be 'motivated' to strive for the best when stuck in a 'not so ideal' environment. =)
err... what i meant by shun qi zi ran was not exactly leaving babies to survive on their own. i do believe that baies have their own potential and such. for example things like development, i do know for sure my baby will walk and run by say age 3.. so i am not worried. even if he is slow in talking, walking, eating solids, it's ok. cos he will not grow up not doing those things. i m very assured. what i meant was that babies need more than these basic stuff we are able to give or nurture. what is the difference between a normal academic student and a special stream one? not that one is born more intelligent than the other. but that he/she has more chances to learn, to excel and to perform. we can choose to give our children the basic. or we can choose to give them the best. i choose wat i can afford within my means. and i hope it will be one of the best. isn't that the reason or working hard and making big bucks? what's the point of earning money and not spending them on our children?
and btw..beethovan has the most loving mum! think u got ur facts wrong... he was born in a talented family of musicians and had a loving mum to nurture him and had great teachers to teach him and inspire him. einstein and newton both had poor childhoods, but they excelled thru sheer hard work when they are older and wiser. like i mentioned, people can be 'motivated' to strive for the best when stuck in a 'not so ideal' environment. =)
oh...speaking of great people's mothers. I am a fan of thomas edison's mom.
edison was known as a 'troublemaker' cos of his knacks for 'destroying' things and taking them apart. he shows little interest in schoolwork cos they were too boring for him. he prefers to explore thru taking apart and building back. his teachers thot he was a mischief maker and a dumb kid who doesn't know his work n refuse to pay attention. they complained to his mother, who promptly told the teacher off for impeding his learning and took him out of school to home-school him. he grew up to be who he was cos his mum believed in him and let him explore his interests and creativity. =D
i find that the difference between being strict and killing creativity can be a very thin line. i let seth explore objects with his mouth. for this is the stage where he learns texture and taste. not letting him do it is like not letting him learn. but yet when he places stuff like newspapers or 'dirty' things I will smack him and say NO! hmm... like dat how he knows newspapers r yucky and is not a form of food? =/
edison was known as a 'troublemaker' cos of his knacks for 'destroying' things and taking them apart. he shows little interest in schoolwork cos they were too boring for him. he prefers to explore thru taking apart and building back. his teachers thot he was a mischief maker and a dumb kid who doesn't know his work n refuse to pay attention. they complained to his mother, who promptly told the teacher off for impeding his learning and took him out of school to home-school him. he grew up to be who he was cos his mum believed in him and let him explore his interests and creativity. =D
i find that the difference between being strict and killing creativity can be a very thin line. i let seth explore objects with his mouth. for this is the stage where he learns texture and taste. not letting him do it is like not letting him learn. but yet when he places stuff like newspapers or 'dirty' things I will smack him and say NO! hmm... like dat how he knows newspapers r yucky and is not a form of food? =/
mango heaty hor... but my mil and hb dun believe wan leh..think malaysians thinking different..hee.. but seth likes so i give him. but i add avocado.. and i made sure to give him apple+pear in the evening to 'counter' the heat...hee... i oso give honeydew leh..op oh... more pears!! i like the US pears currently on sale! yumm!
mashmallow
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morning!!
Jaylen has been waking up early daily..aiyo...i think i nid to sleep when he does every nite..if not, so tired to wake up at 6.10am...pengs...
Jaylen has been waking up early daily..aiyo...i think i nid to sleep when he does every nite..if not, so tired to wake up at 6.10am...pengs...
mashmallow
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QQ,
the last time I saw Dr Ong, she didnt comment on jaylen's behavior leh..how should i go abt asking her on this har?
act, i very jialat one lah...when i go see pd or doc, at times i abit paisey to ask more qns de
the last time I saw Dr Ong, she didnt comment on jaylen's behavior leh..how should i go abt asking her on this har?
act, i very jialat one lah...when i go see pd or doc, at times i abit paisey to ask more qns de
hi hi. good morning. Ohio!!!
same same, tian still rejects milk, etc etc.. still feeding her in sleeps (super difficult). she is also very smart when sleeping.. turn here turn there then can never be able to feed her.
Unable to finish archive yet then i wanna comment liao.
Bbgirl, u are right. i interpreted the same thing as astro when i read that article. cause u know ah, me myself internally in my heart already have that kindof "ai4 de3 jiao4 yu4" of perception.. I truely believe that children can be molded by us if they have gained enough trusts in us as parents. somehow, i am a bit shaky though, u can tell la. haha!!! super dilemma la.
e.g. When tian snatching hb's spec, hb kept saying NO! cannot. but i said, this one is not FUN at all, mama give u something more fun to play with. Then i NEVER want to emphasize the bad thing that she had done. Dunno if this work la, but i trying lor.
Autum, i love u. i felt a bit hard on myself and started to do some reflections. after that, i realised that i am also torn between discipline or not.. firm or not. want or not, can or not? then i remembered a documentary that I've seen before. human's brain (behaviour) is actually there when we were born. Then, hou4 tian1's environment can also shape it. However, its a matter of how we retrieve the data etc etc.. something like AGGRESSIVENESS is in born, then we can TRAIN someone to consciously reduce its aggressiveness by mental conditioninng. .. too long. dun want to elaborate la.. unless u all interested.
Mash, then u dun be paisey, just make comments in front of Dr ong, i think she will help u elaborate...
same same, tian still rejects milk, etc etc.. still feeding her in sleeps (super difficult). she is also very smart when sleeping.. turn here turn there then can never be able to feed her.
Unable to finish archive yet then i wanna comment liao.
Bbgirl, u are right. i interpreted the same thing as astro when i read that article. cause u know ah, me myself internally in my heart already have that kindof "ai4 de3 jiao4 yu4" of perception.. I truely believe that children can be molded by us if they have gained enough trusts in us as parents. somehow, i am a bit shaky though, u can tell la. haha!!! super dilemma la.
e.g. When tian snatching hb's spec, hb kept saying NO! cannot. but i said, this one is not FUN at all, mama give u something more fun to play with. Then i NEVER want to emphasize the bad thing that she had done. Dunno if this work la, but i trying lor.
Autum, i love u. i felt a bit hard on myself and started to do some reflections. after that, i realised that i am also torn between discipline or not.. firm or not. want or not, can or not? then i remembered a documentary that I've seen before. human's brain (behaviour) is actually there when we were born. Then, hou4 tian1's environment can also shape it. However, its a matter of how we retrieve the data etc etc.. something like AGGRESSIVENESS is in born, then we can TRAIN someone to consciously reduce its aggressiveness by mental conditioninng. .. too long. dun want to elaborate la.. unless u all interested.
Mash, then u dun be paisey, just make comments in front of Dr ong, i think she will help u elaborate...
morning..
my mum also said dun let baby cried too much, as will affect their voice...
when he was about 2 mths, i let him CIO, and true enough his voice become sha sha le....so quickly bring him see doctor...now his voice sometimes still sha sha, so i'm guilty of it...
autumn,
after reading your post, i feel better..same as qq i torn between discipline and love for him..
my mum also said dun let baby cried too much, as will affect their voice...
when he was about 2 mths, i let him CIO, and true enough his voice become sha sha le....so quickly bring him see doctor...now his voice sometimes still sha sha, so i'm guilty of it...
autumn,
after reading your post, i feel better..same as qq i torn between discipline and love for him..
shopping_queen
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i'm implementing the CIO now.
reading all these comments about throaty voice really scares me
reading all these comments about throaty voice really scares me
Morning everyone.... !
wah.. still talking abt discipline. ehh.. can i just say this??? i think seriously..
there is NO DIFFERENCE between discipline and love ah!! DISCIPLINE = LOVE for the child!!! .. think abt it this way.. would u bother to go and spend all ur effort (heartache) to go discipline other ppls' child?? no right? why.. coz ur love for their children is not that deep mah.. makes sense??
ok.. before i sound like i am too aggresive abt my stance again.. let us just remind ourselves that responsibilty to educate our bbs.. and education is not a sweet pill all the time.. bittersweet i would say.. first bitter sweet later.. but i think ultimately.. we must know.. and be resonsiple for our decisions and choices.. go slightly easier on ourselves and bbs now or be firm and set up the basics.. ultimately... we shuold think long term.. would the long term consequences be difficult to resolve?? is it easier to set things right now??
If u find urself thinking "I wish I had done this much earlier".. perhaps u are one of those who wish that u were firm in the beginning..???
me think.. dun regret.. that's the most impt.. do it else dun do it.. if not.. that kind of mental anguish/regret in the future.. of " I wish I had".. is what i feel. 'truly hard on ourselves and bbs"...
two cents worth again..
Pax: meat seperate liao!! heehee. Love u *kiss*
btw, tituteo.. me love u also.. dun jealous hor?>? *hug u till u cannot breathe*
wah.. still talking abt discipline. ehh.. can i just say this??? i think seriously..
there is NO DIFFERENCE between discipline and love ah!! DISCIPLINE = LOVE for the child!!! .. think abt it this way.. would u bother to go and spend all ur effort (heartache) to go discipline other ppls' child?? no right? why.. coz ur love for their children is not that deep mah.. makes sense??
ok.. before i sound like i am too aggresive abt my stance again.. let us just remind ourselves that responsibilty to educate our bbs.. and education is not a sweet pill all the time.. bittersweet i would say.. first bitter sweet later.. but i think ultimately.. we must know.. and be resonsiple for our decisions and choices.. go slightly easier on ourselves and bbs now or be firm and set up the basics.. ultimately... we shuold think long term.. would the long term consequences be difficult to resolve?? is it easier to set things right now??
If u find urself thinking "I wish I had done this much earlier".. perhaps u are one of those who wish that u were firm in the beginning..???
me think.. dun regret.. that's the most impt.. do it else dun do it.. if not.. that kind of mental anguish/regret in the future.. of " I wish I had".. is what i feel. 'truly hard on ourselves and bbs"...
two cents worth again..
Pax: meat seperate liao!! heehee. Love u
*kiss* btw, tituteo.. me love u also.. dun jealous hor?>? *hug u till u cannot breathe*
SQ: morning.. hmmm.. so u thought thru it?? ok.. teng had sexy voice also.. brought to PD.. ex PD said.. it will recovr.. bbs not dumb.. if they are really tired.. they will give up.. and go to sleep.. wun harm their vocal cords.. teng's voice is still very verstaile now.. strong and loud..
perservre.. dun give up halfway.. else not fair to urself and ur bb
perservre.. dun give up halfway.. else not fair to urself and ur bb
shopping_queen
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astro,
yes. i've tried all means besides CIO.
CIO is working for her.
very heartache yes.
but i'm v stubborn about discipline.
at the risk of starting a war here, i think that parents with kids screaming on the floor deserve it. as in, they create that behavior.
ok, dun say liao. i'm sure alot of people already wanna whack me liao
yes. i've tried all means besides CIO.
CIO is working for her.
very heartache yes.
but i'm v stubborn about discipline.
at the risk of starting a war here, i think that parents with kids screaming on the floor deserve it. as in, they create that behavior.
ok, dun say liao. i'm sure alot of people already wanna whack me liao
astro, i making my yogurt again today. tian likes it. but i just give a few spoonful to her for fun. she showed me sour face, buts till come back to me for it. haha!!
Pampers??
bbgirl.. you using purple packing, then its pampers ACTIVE. i use pampers active OR ALLNIGHT in the night, while using pampers comfort(red packing) in the day. So far, so good, no leak. anyway, most of the time tian's pampers are either dry or one time pee pee.
i find MP is good too, but the silica gel that they use is too heavy bah, that's y some ppl dun like. but absorbance wise good. however, if fast urine, then maybe unable to catch as fast. Astron, teng's urine speed fast bah. haha!!
i like pampers all night (from msia) cause it can really last for very long and feel dry. then only thing thati dun like about it is the sticko (its a sticky tape, not velcro type).
Pax, i also wear tian in tops and bottom. like boy also. sigh! after seeing jo's photos, i think i wanna buy moredresses for her now.
Pampers??
bbgirl.. you using purple packing, then its pampers ACTIVE. i use pampers active OR ALLNIGHT in the night, while using pampers comfort(red packing) in the day. So far, so good, no leak. anyway, most of the time tian's pampers are either dry or one time pee pee.
i find MP is good too, but the silica gel that they use is too heavy bah, that's y some ppl dun like. but absorbance wise good. however, if fast urine, then maybe unable to catch as fast. Astron, teng's urine speed fast bah. haha!!
i like pampers all night (from msia) cause it can really last for very long and feel dry. then only thing thati dun like about it is the sticko (its a sticky tape, not velcro type).
Pax, i also wear tian in tops and bottom. like boy also. sigh! after seeing jo's photos, i think i wanna buy moredresses for her now.
SQ: sometimes i adore ur guts.. could i declare u as another of my idol? say lor. me antagonise so many pple liao.. but i feel in one thing. .be true to urself.. if u know.. that this is the best that u are doing for ur child.. and no second doubts.. do it..
how long she cried yesterday?
could i declare u as another of my idol? say lor. me antagonise so many pple liao.. but i feel in one thing. .be true to urself.. if u know.. that this is the best that u are doing for ur child.. and no second doubts.. do it.. how long she cried yesterday?
after all reflections, i think i have to say this (i joining u joelle, Ms LOR SOH)
1. Each child is unique
2. we need to provide appropriate guidance that suits their behaviour, personality, etc etc
so back to square one. i think we just need to understand our children more, then able to plan and implement things for them.
SQ, if CIO works for YE, then pls persist cause half way stop then even worst right?
Tian is not suitable for CIO after my two trials, so i am more careful now.. maybe when she is older then CIO more suitable? dunno la..
but i think i learnt a lot from u mummies here.. really.
1. Each child is unique
2. we need to provide appropriate guidance that suits their behaviour, personality, etc etc
so back to square one. i think we just need to understand our children more, then able to plan and implement things for them.
SQ, if CIO works for YE, then pls persist cause half way stop then even worst right?
Tian is not suitable for CIO after my two trials, so i am more careful now.. maybe when she is older then CIO more suitable? dunno la..
but i think i learnt a lot from u mummies here.. really.
QQ: how's tian..? better? try get her drink more fluid .. try try try..
fyi//
daily fluid requirements from birth to 6 years..
0-3 mths, from 5kg... 750ml
4-6mths, 7kg, 900ml
7 -11mths, 9kgs, 1 litre
1-3years, 11kg, 1.1 lires
4-6years, 15kg, 1.4 litres
must hydrate tian.. else many troublesome problems in future..
fyi//
daily fluid requirements from birth to 6 years..
0-3 mths, from 5kg... 750ml
4-6mths, 7kg, 900ml
7 -11mths, 9kgs, 1 litre
1-3years, 11kg, 1.1 lires
4-6years, 15kg, 1.4 litres
must hydrate tian.. else many troublesome problems in future..
shopping_queen
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astro, here's my CIO history.
1st time i tried:
cried for 3 hours.
but she just recovered from an illness, so i felt so bad about doing it to her.
<font color="ff0000">2nd attempt</font>
1st night: cried for 1 hour (wed)
i wanted to give up so badly. felt like crying with her
2nd night: cried for < 20mins
she stopped even before i had the chance to go in and comfort her. her crying also not as forceful as the first night
3rd night: TONITE!
i'm sure i will get beta.
i also have a lot to lor sor about CIO. but not to bore you all with the details
just suffice to say that i've shocked my husband and myself for enforcing CIO. but i can say with a straight face it's best for her at this point.
1st time i tried:
cried for 3 hours.
but she just recovered from an illness, so i felt so bad about doing it to her.
<font color="ff0000">2nd attempt</font>
1st night: cried for 1 hour (wed)
i wanted to give up so badly. felt like crying with her
2nd night: cried for < 20mins
she stopped even before i had the chance to go in and comfort her. her crying also not as forceful as the first night
3rd night: TONITE!
i'm sure i will get beta.
i also have a lot to lor sor about CIO. but not to bore you all with the details
just suffice to say that i've shocked my husband and myself for enforcing CIO. but i can say with a straight face it's best for her at this point.
shopping_queen
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QQ,
we are both the soft hearted mummies. so yes, please consider all options carefully before CIO. no half way.
very fedup earlier in the week cos she kept waking up earlier and earlier in the night (when she could zzz through earlier). and i'm 101% sure it's bad zzz association (as much as i tried not to create it).
and i'm no expert in CIO, but after reading ALL the books i can lay my hands on about CIO (both against and pro), i'm v confident about it now.
we are both the soft hearted mummies. so yes, please consider all options carefully before CIO. no half way.
very fedup earlier in the week cos she kept waking up earlier and earlier in the night (when she could zzz through earlier). and i'm 101% sure it's bad zzz association (as much as i tried not to create it).
and i'm no expert in CIO, but after reading ALL the books i can lay my hands on about CIO (both against and pro), i'm v confident about it now.
SQ: ^5!!! hang on.. i see the light at the end of the tunnel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hang on..
aiya.. can u just say abt CIO lor sor or not.. me just as interested to know ur opinion..
actually.once u can get past this 'tough' stage.. actually not that hard to 'discipline' our child.. when u see ur bb sleeping so nicely in future.. what's three nights of hard crying? right SQ?
aiya.. can u just say abt CIO lor sor or not.. me just as interested to know ur opinion..
actually.once u can get past this 'tough' stage.. actually not that hard to 'discipline' our child.. when u see ur bb sleeping so nicely in future.. what's three nights of hard crying? right SQ?
yaya.. astro. got elephant is purple packing..
pampers active..
i try to give her 1 L of fluid a day. if not, i boil soup and nanny feed. also can be another few tens of ml ma. right? milk intake dropped a lot liao but steady nanny still manage to squeeze 17oz a day. not bad liao. then plus water etc etc... still not yet hit 1 litre la.. last time better, she drink 25 oz, then another 7-10 oz water then hit liao. these few days jialat..
pampers active..
i try to give her 1 L of fluid a day. if not, i boil soup and nanny feed. also can be another few tens of ml ma. right? milk intake dropped a lot liao but steady nanny still manage to squeeze 17oz a day. not bad liao. then plus water etc etc... still not yet hit 1 litre la.. last time better, she drink 25 oz, then another 7-10 oz water then hit liao. these few days jialat..
shopping_queen
New Member
astro,
i read about CIO when i was preggie. cos i absolutely hate to think that my kid would be those "shopping-centre-sit-on-the-floor-and-cry" type.
i went to bookshops and surf the net to read about it. i <font color="119911">re-read</font> the literatures again this few weeks. i definitely can't be as expert as you are in advising people of their schedule (like last time, how you help mummies think of how to adjust schedules? i can't lah. i see liao i also blur).
but i'm confident to say that i've heard all arguments for/against CIO i will be glad if someone tells me sth new
gosh! i sound so snobbish!
but tat's trying to cut the long story short la. hope you don't see me as hao4 lian4. i'm just v sure of what i want for my dotter
forgive me
i read about CIO when i was preggie. cos i absolutely hate to think that my kid would be those "shopping-centre-sit-on-the-floor-and-cry" type.
i went to bookshops and surf the net to read about it. i <font color="119911">re-read</font> the literatures again this few weeks. i definitely can't be as expert as you are in advising people of their schedule (like last time, how you help mummies think of how to adjust schedules? i can't lah. i see liao i also blur).
but i'm confident to say that i've heard all arguments for/against CIO i will be glad if someone tells me sth new
gosh! i sound so snobbish!
shopping_queen
New Member
QQ,
that's already an achievement for tian given that she was unwell just earlier leh. i mean the water intake.
YE has never met any of the "minimum requirements" when it comes to food/liquid intake.
that's already an achievement for tian given that she was unwell just earlier leh. i mean the water intake.
YE has never met any of the "minimum requirements" when it comes to food/liquid intake.
SQ, steady steady u.
yeah me not ready. cause failed twice due to insufficient knowledge about CIO.. etc etc..
now my concentration is FEED milk.. haha!! i feed until i laughed last night. cause i knew that i would fail,. but i still make milk and feed.. failed liao. then i bath, come out try again. i tried so many times... until one time, OK! then happy.. and show hb my yaya face. then i slept. it was already 11.30pm.. normally i dun sleep so late. mama's love. zhen1 wei3 da4.
yeah me not ready. cause failed twice due to insufficient knowledge about CIO.. etc etc..
now my concentration is FEED milk.. haha!! i feed until i laughed last night. cause i knew that i would fail,. but i still make milk and feed.. failed liao. then i bath, come out try again. i tried so many times... until one time, OK! then happy.. and show hb my yaya face. then i slept. it was already 11.30pm.. normally i dun sleep so late. mama's love. zhen1 wei3 da4.
shopping_queen
New Member
astro,
ya. not easy. i was "against" it when baby girl first mentioned, remember? now i see the logic (that doesn't mean i'm pro-CIO still)
baby girl,
are u reading this?
ya. not easy. i was "against" it when baby girl first mentioned, remember? now i see the logic (that doesn't mean i'm pro-CIO still)
baby girl,
are u reading this?
SQ: pls lah. me not expert on schedules.. le tme also remind u.. i went throough all the agony of teng haywired.. and me depression for the first three months.. like u i REREAD all the LITERATURE i can get on all these topics.. and having gone thru the mental angusish.. and now teng is happy, sleep well, eat well.. i know hard work is worth it.. so therefore seems to be 'advising' but actually just too anxious to protect the mummies here from gonig down the same path as i did..depression and unhappiness.. but then again.. i have learned.. that opinions are only welcomed.. if there is a need for it.. else it is just mere itch on the ears.. to be scratched and ignored
u hao liao? far from it lah.. u still got astro to beat!.. ur dotter wun just forgive u. she thank u for it.. trust urself.. and ur dotter
u hao liao? far from it lah.. u still got astro to beat!
.. ur dotter wun just forgive u. she thank u for it.. trust urself.. and ur dotter
shopping_queen
New Member
QQ,
ya, not ready cannot.
i regretted the first time i tried. machiam got "black demerit point" in my mothering record lidat.
then i told myself i'll only drive myself crazy if i keep keeping track of my "scores" as a mother
ya, not ready cannot.
i regretted the first time i tried. machiam got "black demerit point" in my mothering record lidat.
then i told myself i'll only drive myself crazy if i keep keeping track of my "scores" as a mother
SQ: how can anyone be pro-CIO?? given it is so tramautising?? bbs human lei.. how can ANYHOW let them cry THAT long?? must be fully prepared.. else pls dun even think of trying...
bbgirl for all her rationality.. dun advocate it also.. i bet she went through many internal struggles before deciding on implementing it...
bbgirl for all her rationality.. dun advocate it also.. i bet she went through many internal struggles before deciding on implementing it...
shopping_queen
New Member
astro,
yes. when she's older, i'll be proud to tell her about the CIO
haha... isn't there a saying about advice: it's never asked for but always given.
or sth like that la. my english cannot make it. always got to wait for baby girl to rescue me last time. i'll always remember she told me about "an idle mind is the devil's workshop" or sth lidat. haha
yes. when she's older, i'll be proud to tell her about the CIO
haha... isn't there a saying about advice: it's never asked for but always given.
or sth like that la. my english cannot make it. always got to wait for baby girl to rescue me last time. i'll always remember she told me about "an idle mind is the devil's workshop" or sth lidat. haha
shopping_queen
New Member
astro,
baby girl is v steady wan. dun underestimate her
(i'm not saying that you are underestimating her lah) haha
baby girl is v steady wan. dun underestimate her
(i'm not saying that you are underestimating her lah) haha
SQ: yalor.. this bbgirl hor.. jialat.. played mastermind with ther the other time.. siao liao her.. keep increasing difficulty levels.. then i not good at single colour codes.. she give me all single colours.. then 6 pegs in codes kind lei! i see liao. give up.. haha.. then she very int in suduku.. i see the game.. i YAWN