pinkfuchsia
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Haha coz I did selective testing only.. Coz doc only narrow down to the most possible and common problems. After scan and looking at my past records he see no major problems tats y.. And I think bcoz I insisted to test..
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Give a hope
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Haha my gynae is those super detailed n wanna ensure did all e test than rule out himself e possibility.
pinkfuchsia
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Diff doc diff thoughts bah.. I only Chk karotype lupus and SLE... He's introducing aspirin to my FET.. Mb also intralipid ..
Give a hope
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If due to protein s deficiency aspirin not enough eventually got to take clexance. It can also happen only during pregnancy like my case.
pinkfuchsia
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Oh what test to detect protein s deficiency? Mb hafta see my results then sugg further...
bunnymuimui
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hi @chopple I lost my baby at 12 weeks just before last Xmas. It was a very tough time. Now (4 months later), in the comfort of my #1 kiddo and family and work, I think I'm out of the woods (of dark emotions). Though I sometimes wonder about how far I would be if the baby heartbeat did not stop. I am still sensitive around pregnant friends/colleagues but am able to start talking about it with close friends now... For the past 4 months, this forum and fellow sisters has been my strongest support.
I did a mini-confinement for 2 days :S and left for a planned holiday to have a change of environment. Period came back after 7-8 weeks with occasional 1 day bleeds up to now. A little cranky but otherwise the monthly cycle has stablized. I am returning to KK IVF for another try in Apr. Looking forward.
I did a mini-confinement for 2 days :S and left for a planned holiday to have a change of environment. Period came back after 7-8 weeks with occasional 1 day bleeds up to now. A little cranky but otherwise the monthly cycle has stablized. I am returning to KK IVF for another try in Apr. Looking forward.
Never thought I'll write on this thread. I've been visiting Motherhood forums for the pregnancy threads then this has happened... This is my story...
I've been married for 5 years and TTC for two years. After abt a year of TTC without success, hubby and I went to see a fertility specialist. I was diagnosed w some cysts and fibroids and underwent a laparoscopy last Oct. hubby SA test is normal so problem is mine lor. Anyway two mths after the lap, doc told us to try for a few mths before trying IUI. Who knows, I got pregnant that mth. I was so happy yet very cautious during the 1st tri...cos I know it's still very uncertain. We didn't announce till the 13th week. At my spot at end of 12th week, doc scan showed that bb still had a strong heartbeat and a good size. But her NT was quite thick at 3.5mm. I said I wanted to do the Harmony test and doc agreed. He said looking at the NT I will fail the OSCAR. Cos we heard of many false positives of OSCAR that caused so much unnecessary worries for the mummy. So went direct to Harmony for ease of mind. A week later we got our Harmony test result and it was all good! We thought the risk was over and can finally announce to our parents. But I'm too naive I guess.. Or unlucky... Around the same time we started announcing, my bb heartbeat stopped without me knowing at all. I was having a MMC without any idea. It was only during my 17 week checkup that I got the worst news of my life. Doc say my bb got no more heartbeat. She is supposed to be abt 17 weeks but measures only 14 weeks. That was on the 30 March.
I couldn't react in the doc office. I just froze and went into a daze. It seemed so unreal. Hubby started tearing but still asked doc what next could we do. Doc asked another doc in the office to scan me using another machine just to make sure. But all is lost is lost. The machines had no problems. My fate was sealed.
It was only in the car on the way home that we started crying so badly. Then we cried again at home, hugging each other. Only after about two hours or so did we collect ourselves together and prepared to go back to the hospital. The same night I checked in to hospital for preparation of D&E. That night I couldn't sleep at all. But I didn't cry much. I had envisioned checking into hospital for my birth, and to have a baby to bring home. Yet that night as we walked into the hospital, it was for me to deliver my dead fetus. It just felt horrid.
Anyway, to cut the long story short, I delivered at 1250pm the next day. Hubby and I didn't even dare look at the bb and let the hospital deal with the cremation. At 14 weeks I didn't know how does my bb look like.. Will she look like a mini baby all formed already or not.. I dare not plant the image in my mind forever cos I know I'll never be able to forget if I saw and it will be so heartbreaking.
Now I'm doing a mini confinement at home. it's almost two weeks now.. Hubby been taking care of me and doing all the cooking n washing and still has to work from home. My poor hubby. More tired than me. ive been crying everyday, sometimes more sometimes less. Some days I thought I'm okay but the next moment I'll see something linked to bb and I'll just start tearing. At nights, I can just cry uncontrollably at the memories/ thoughts of my baby/pregnancy.
I have so many questions that nobody can answer. I thought Heaven finally heard my prayers when I got pregnant. For the past 2 years all the ppl around me, friends colleagues relatives all have healthy babies one after another. I couldn't even conceive. I thought I saw hope when I finally did. All 3 times at the Gynae check ups my baby had a strong heartbeat. Then whaaam! What a big joke Heaven has played on me.
Till today I am still asking why why why. I miss my baby. Though I still had not felt her kicking yet, but I could feel her growing inside me. It's true that nobody will truly understand this pain unless they went thru it too... But it's so terrible nobody should have to go thru this.
I feel that I have let my hubby down. I can't give him a healthy child. I disappointed my parents cos they were looking forward to their first grandchild this year. I don't know if I'll ever find out the cause of my miscarriage. I don't know if I'll get pregnant again. I don't know if I'll ever bear a healthy child to full term. I miss my baby. I'm so sad she never got a chance to see this world. Im so sad I never got a chance to hold her in my arms.
However, reading about all your stories, some worse than mine, gives me some comfort and strength. I'm not defeated yet. We will definitely try again (and hope it doesn't happen again!!!) but now I need to be patient first and recover. Haiz... Time seems to drag by each day now.
I've been married for 5 years and TTC for two years. After abt a year of TTC without success, hubby and I went to see a fertility specialist. I was diagnosed w some cysts and fibroids and underwent a laparoscopy last Oct. hubby SA test is normal so problem is mine lor. Anyway two mths after the lap, doc told us to try for a few mths before trying IUI. Who knows, I got pregnant that mth. I was so happy yet very cautious during the 1st tri...cos I know it's still very uncertain. We didn't announce till the 13th week. At my spot at end of 12th week, doc scan showed that bb still had a strong heartbeat and a good size. But her NT was quite thick at 3.5mm. I said I wanted to do the Harmony test and doc agreed. He said looking at the NT I will fail the OSCAR. Cos we heard of many false positives of OSCAR that caused so much unnecessary worries for the mummy. So went direct to Harmony for ease of mind. A week later we got our Harmony test result and it was all good! We thought the risk was over and can finally announce to our parents. But I'm too naive I guess.. Or unlucky... Around the same time we started announcing, my bb heartbeat stopped without me knowing at all. I was having a MMC without any idea. It was only during my 17 week checkup that I got the worst news of my life. Doc say my bb got no more heartbeat. She is supposed to be abt 17 weeks but measures only 14 weeks. That was on the 30 March.
I couldn't react in the doc office. I just froze and went into a daze. It seemed so unreal. Hubby started tearing but still asked doc what next could we do. Doc asked another doc in the office to scan me using another machine just to make sure. But all is lost is lost. The machines had no problems. My fate was sealed.
It was only in the car on the way home that we started crying so badly. Then we cried again at home, hugging each other. Only after about two hours or so did we collect ourselves together and prepared to go back to the hospital. The same night I checked in to hospital for preparation of D&E. That night I couldn't sleep at all. But I didn't cry much. I had envisioned checking into hospital for my birth, and to have a baby to bring home. Yet that night as we walked into the hospital, it was for me to deliver my dead fetus. It just felt horrid.
Anyway, to cut the long story short, I delivered at 1250pm the next day. Hubby and I didn't even dare look at the bb and let the hospital deal with the cremation. At 14 weeks I didn't know how does my bb look like.. Will she look like a mini baby all formed already or not.. I dare not plant the image in my mind forever cos I know I'll never be able to forget if I saw and it will be so heartbreaking.
Now I'm doing a mini confinement at home. it's almost two weeks now.. Hubby been taking care of me and doing all the cooking n washing and still has to work from home. My poor hubby. More tired than me. ive been crying everyday, sometimes more sometimes less. Some days I thought I'm okay but the next moment I'll see something linked to bb and I'll just start tearing. At nights, I can just cry uncontrollably at the memories/ thoughts of my baby/pregnancy.
I have so many questions that nobody can answer. I thought Heaven finally heard my prayers when I got pregnant. For the past 2 years all the ppl around me, friends colleagues relatives all have healthy babies one after another. I couldn't even conceive. I thought I saw hope when I finally did. All 3 times at the Gynae check ups my baby had a strong heartbeat. Then whaaam! What a big joke Heaven has played on me.
Till today I am still asking why why why. I miss my baby. Though I still had not felt her kicking yet, but I could feel her growing inside me. It's true that nobody will truly understand this pain unless they went thru it too... But it's so terrible nobody should have to go thru this.
I feel that I have let my hubby down. I can't give him a healthy child. I disappointed my parents cos they were looking forward to their first grandchild this year. I don't know if I'll ever find out the cause of my miscarriage. I don't know if I'll get pregnant again. I don't know if I'll ever bear a healthy child to full term. I miss my baby. I'm so sad she never got a chance to see this world. Im so sad I never got a chance to hold her in my arms.
However, reading about all your stories, some worse than mine, gives me some comfort and strength. I'm not defeated yet. We will definitely try again (and hope it doesn't happen again!!!) but now I need to be patient first and recover. Haiz... Time seems to drag by each day now.
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Lostangel, i feel so sad upon reading your story...it must be an extremely devastating experience..I hope you will recover real soon physically and may God help heal you emotionally ,hope u gain back the strength fast and furious , we ladies in this forum have a difficult war to fight ...hugs and jiayou ! chopple, U too, recover fast and well. Be strong ! hugs ..
redvel
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Big hugs, Lostangel.
My case is very similar to yours. Except I did a d&c (stopped growing at 13weeks but only knew it at wk17/18). This happened 3 xmases ago.
This is a time there are a lot of questions and blames upon our own self and they are all part of mourning and healing process. Allow yourself to feel sad now but at the same time take good care of your body. You need a healthy body to prep you for the next bfp (your angel will come back...). So do a mini confinement as this is exactly what your next baby needs.
Take care and hope your healing journey will be supported by your loved ones.
My case is very similar to yours. Except I did a d&c (stopped growing at 13weeks but only knew it at wk17/18). This happened 3 xmases ago.
This is a time there are a lot of questions and blames upon our own self and they are all part of mourning and healing process. Allow yourself to feel sad now but at the same time take good care of your body. You need a healthy body to prep you for the next bfp (your angel will come back...). So do a mini confinement as this is exactly what your next baby needs.
Take care and hope your healing journey will be supported by your loved ones.
Hi give a hope, after my detailed tests. I was found to hv protein S deficiency. Already started aspirin. So eventually there will be more medication?
bunnymuimui
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@LostAngel no one would have imagined to go through these. You are not alone. Many of fellow sisters have returned with encouraging stories that they ended up pregnant again and bringing home healthy babies. Do not lose faith. Be strong for yourself, for your hubby. Many things in life are beyond our control. Your parents would understand and wouldn't want you to stress out. Although we are all grown up, they still worry about us and feel our pain too, as I've learnt through my two m/c.
pinkfuchsia
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@LostAngel I'm sorry, totally understand the pain you have been thru... Life is such and many times there's no answer why and how it happened. Take your time to grieve but you must move on ok? Come back stronger, don't be defeated with this outcome. Jiayou! Fighting!
pinkfuchsia
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That's my question too! I dun tink I took a protein s deficiency test but was given cardiprin. Is this the baby aspirin tat you are talking abt?
Give a hope
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Clexane. Depends of e level eg mine drop to 40 to 35 to 30 so take 40ml jab increase to 50ml. Mine happen during pregnancy. I think u got to take clexance from bfp to birth since detected now b4 bfp. Got one mummy diagnosed protein s deficiency started clexane n now got her boy w her. Jy jy
Pinkfuchsia, bunnymuimui, redvel and old aunty, thanks for listening and your words of encouragement. I just needed an outlet to grieve to vent my frustrations... All these feelings and emotions I just need to release somewhere. But I don't wanna talk to ppl face to face cos I may just start crying anytime... Anyway my friends and family...nobody really understands... I can't cry in front of my hubby (he thinks I'm going into depression). i can't wait for this mini confinement to be over actually. Very bored at home and everything have to depend on hubby. Sigh... And the on and off spotting is so irritating. When I thought it's gonna be over, I bleed a bit more the next day. Zzzz...
Give a hope
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I saw so many pregnant women waiting to c my dr n all buying clexane dr said v common.
Urs 52? Normal range 55-100. Think u need to take e jab. My vitamin D b4 ttc detected abit low so taking vitamin D 2 tablets a day den stable already dr still scare ask to take all e way till birth. I think u shld c expert on these 2 problems than diff dr saying diff thing. All e best
Mine is 63. Actually still within average range. Not sure wht Prof says i got thick blood. He mentioned my thyroid level is also out. All these can result to miscarriage n early losses.I saw so many pregnant women waiting to c my dr n all buying clexane dr said v common.
Urs 52? Normal range 55-100. Think u need to take e jab. My vitamin D b4 ttc detected abit low so taking vitamin D 2 tablets a day den stable already dr still scare ask to take all e way till birth. I think u shld c expert on these 2 problems than diff dr saying diff thing. All e best
I hope by treating this problem, i have higher chances to keep my baby. I really have the fear to get preggy now.
Yes, i am taking baby aspirin now. I took a very detailed pregnancy loss test so protein S is being covered. I have start aspirin last month. Prof says i hv to take all the way. I still need to take something for the thyroid.
Dear lost angel, its a good time to rest and stay home. How long is your HL? In fact i extended my HL to 1mth plus the last MC to get a total good rest. I feel that my mood is still very fragile after 2wks. Kept crying in the office during 1st mc. In fact, nobody can really understand what we went through unless they themselves experience the pregnancy loss before. Even then...the pain is different in everyone. I once read an article saying we are grieving for a baby who has not seen the world and nobody knows them yet. Dont even have a name. So naturally others do not even feel that its a loss of life. Only we feel so hurt n painful because we can feel our little baby growth and heartbeat before. Any comforting words from friends n family are not able to make u better. Only time can slowly heal. Do something to divert your attention. Like watching dramas, brisk walking at the parks or reservoirs, go for a resort stay. All these are wat time did to bring myself back to normal. Stay strong sister.
Give a hope
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Prof said even within e range but on lower side no pregnant ok pregnant not ok. Cos mine now at 70.
Give a hope
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I know how u feel. But w treatments e chances definitely higher than try an error. Cos we r not risk taker. E fear is too strong but thinking of hub I try again. Don't worry prof know what to do n he has all e list of test for every stage to do to ensure all in order. He is not risk taker he will not go next step if this stage test nv go thru.
Give a hope
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My ex col told me his friend on e day of delivery they go hospital only realise bb pass away n need to deliver e bb out. Super sad case but now they have 1 dau w them even throughout pregnancy live in fear.
Take good care of urself n nurse ur body back.
pinkfuchsia
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@Give a hope and @mangoyoyo, both of u under prof PC wong at nuh?
from the report i got back, normal range is 59-118. however the main reason tt i was not able to have a successful pregnancy was due to abnormal chromosomes. my dr didnt give me anything to solve the protein s problem. she only gave me vit D and told me if i get pregnant again then wil prescribe aspirin during pregnancy wor.I saw so many pregnant women waiting to c my dr n all buying clexane dr said v common.
Urs 52? Normal range 55-100. Think u need to take e jab. My vitamin D b4 ttc detected abit low so taking vitamin D 2 tablets a day den stable already dr still scare ask to take all e way till birth. I think u shld c expert on these 2 problems than diff dr saying diff thing. All e best
63 sounds ok ley hee...i asked my dr if this watever protein s thick blood thingy has anything to do with my super high cholestrol, she said no.but to me, sounds like there is a link hahha..i like to b my own dr at times .very bad
btw give a hope, may i check with you wat is the difference between D2 and D3 vit D tablet? u were given D2. i was given D3I saw so many pregnant women waiting to c my dr n all buying clexane dr said v common.
Urs 52? Normal range 55-100. Think u need to take e jab. My vitamin D b4 ttc detected abit low so taking vitamin D 2 tablets a day den stable already dr still scare ask to take all e way till birth. I think u shld c expert on these 2 problems than diff dr saying diff thing. All e best
OMG this is horrendously terrible! I am speechless. Admirable couple!
redvel
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Yes such stories of stillbirth are so painful to read, what more to be experiencing it I know of someone whose baby in tummy was already in 3rd trimester. But a scan showed baby has coiled herself in umbilical cord thus cutting her own oxygen.
Omg writing this makes my heart sank to bottom.
I know of someone whose baby in tummy was already in 3rd trimester. But a scan showed baby has coiled herself in umbilical cord thus cutting her own oxygen. Omg writing this makes my heart sank to bottom.
Yeah.. Since my miscarriage I've read all sorts of stories of ppl losing their babies in various ways. Makes me realize how fragile life is. No pregnancy is safe till we hold the baby in our arms... Then there comes the next worries of baby illness baby accidents etc.. Haiyo.Yes such stories of stillbirth are so painful to read, what more to be experiencing it
Omg writing this makes my heart sank to bottom.
I am seeing prof choolani at his pte clinic to investigate my multiple pregnancy losses. Haha sounds like CSI. But i have another gynae whom i am with for long time.
Give a hope
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Nope I w prof choolani at his pte clinic
Give a hope
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Mbe diff lab diff ba...but if got protein s deficiency aspirin definitely not enough...abnormal chromosomes do ivf to pick e best quality ones will that be another solution to it?
mine was via ivf. in singapore, chromosome check be4 transfer of embryo is not approved by MOH . 90 percent of miscarriage is due to chromosome problems .it is a game of luck even if you do ivf . they can only choose wat seem normal to the naked eyes . howevr, we all know that is not good enuf . no choice lor, keep trying hope to get lucky one day .
lost angel, my miscarriage brought my hubby n i much closer. it was difficult for us to conceive as well. we went for several holiday trips and simply relaxed and enjoyed each other's company n pursued our mutual interests. it was very rejuvenating and sometimes its good to take a short break from ttc and not give yourself any pressure. take care.
Give a hope
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Mine MD3 1000IU (2 tablets per day) not D2 I'm trying to say vitamin D (2 tablets)...lol
Give a hope
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Dont worry think positively that all good eggs n sperms picks by them...jy
Went for my post D&E checkup yesterday. Doc also nv say what's the cause, I wasn't expecting much answers... Read that 1st miscarriage they usually attribute it as bad luck or abnormal fetus. Am I supposed to accept that answer? If I dunno what's wrong then how do I take prevention for next pregnancy? But most docs won't run any tests for one miscarriage right? So am I just supposed to pray and pray that I won't be 2nd time unlucky if I get pregnant again? I dunno if I can deal with a 2nd miscarriage...haha think so far.
LostAngel, after my D&C dr also did not recommend any test for me apart from poc kryotype. i went to see a private dr , she suggested a few tests to be done and i went back to my dr in sgh to do the tests. most drs wil attribute miscarriage to chromosomal abnormality, which is almost 90 percent true . they will always say not pregnant is due to bad chromosomes thus not implanted, pregnant and miscarriage also chromosomes problem . for my case the tissues sent for lab test did show chromosome abnormality. i however, went for further test so that i can try correct other problems before getting pregnant or be more careful if pregnant. u can tell your dr tt you want a detailed checkup for miscarriage
oic hee...
dolly_gal
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Haven't been logging into this thread n saw so many posts n some new names..
I m so sorry about u ladies losses as I had went thru once mc where I saw heartbeat twice at 2 visits. First time seeing my hb cried in front of me makes me feel tat I fail him badly.tats aso part of the reason I agree to another round of ivf try which is our 7&8th tries. Enduring all the Jabs n side effect (my hair loss was so much tat stylist warn me)...
Finally we saw 2 hb n overjoyed but lost one twin few weeks later. Now I have my bb gal 5 mths old now in my hands. Everything is worthwhile but I will not forget the day I was push into the ot to do d&c.
I m so sorry about u ladies losses as I had went thru once mc where I saw heartbeat twice at 2 visits. First time seeing my hb cried in front of me makes me feel tat I fail him badly.tats aso part of the reason I agree to another round of ivf try which is our 7&8th tries. Enduring all the Jabs n side effect (my hair loss was so much tat stylist warn me)...
Finally we saw 2 hb n overjoyed but lost one twin few weeks later. Now I have my bb gal 5 mths old now in my hands. Everything is worthwhile but I will not forget the day I was push into the ot to do d&c.
bunnymuimui
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dear all, I would like to know what are your steps u took after u experience miscarriage. My gynae confirmed my miscarriage when he did ultrasound(the one that goes thru down under). He saw the sac that was out and confirm that was it. After that, he only gave me 2 days MC(which happens to be wkend). No follow up appt fix after tat. My friends who ever had miscarriage told me that i need to go and see gynae after few weeks to see that everything is back to normal (uterus wall lining etc).
I did not go for D&C (what is that btw) or any washing as my gynae say i dont need to. Any of u experience similar? How many days MC were u given and did u meet ur gynae again for follow up?
I did not go for D&C (what is that btw) or any washing as my gynae say i dont need to. Any of u experience similar? How many days MC were u given and did u meet ur gynae again for follow up?
urara
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I did went for d&c and my next appt was 3weeks later... D&c is a procedure to clean the uterus lining. I was also given 2 days mc since it was a long weekend after . How many weeks were u? Hope u are coping well and take care!
Hi thanks..this happened last fri. I was on 8 wks. When he did ultrascan, it was empty. Nothing was shown on the screen. The sac was already out on my pad when i see the gynae. Hence, he tell me no need to go washing since its out. Is that what u refered to as D&C?
urara, same fate here..stil trying to cope with the news. this was my 1st pregnancy.
i went for a check at 8 weeks but doc said it should be only 6 weeks and cannot detect anything.
he tried using virginal scan but also nothing detected. I google and think my sac is empty base on the scan he printed to me ....
He did not mention anything but i can feel something is not right.
He request to go back 1 week later but i postpone to 2 weeks....
I have been crying for nights ...
I think i am mentally prepare for D&C .... Is it done in KKh or private hospital or clinic?
Roughtly how much it will cost ?
he tried using virginal scan but also nothing detected. I google and think my sac is empty base on the scan he printed to me ....
He did not mention anything but i can feel something is not right.
He request to go back 1 week later but i postpone to 2 weeks....
I have been crying for nights ...
I think i am mentally prepare for D&C .... Is it done in KKh or private hospital or clinic?
Roughtly how much it will cost ?