Support group - Miscarriages

hi princess & Kris,
thks for ur encouragement
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I appreciate it.

yes,exactly,stress is a major cause of illness,esp.cancer.Recently,i read an article that emotional stress causes tumours,other than our lifestyle,diet.

If we think positively,m/c forces us to rethink our lifestyle/diet.If not bcoz of my m/c,i probably will take my health for granted.
 


Hi all

Used to come in here when I had my 3 mc earlier during 2008-2009.. Afterwhich in 2010 I came in to share my good news on my second child been delivered... Now I am here again not to share good news.. Just has another ( my fourth) mc ytd n will b going for evac later. This bb was unplanned.. Tho I somemow had an instinct and knew chances of bb pulling thru is slim (my history shows bb heartbeat norm stop btw wk 8-10), still feel sad at the thot of my bb's demise.. I dun dare to get preg again...
 
Aileen...i don't know what to say..here's a hug for you..have you gone for any blood test or such doc appointment or not?


sisters here..hope everyone is taking care ok!? drink more water(preferably room temp. or warm)in this super hot weather!
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hi aileen,
dont give up..i understand what you are going through and definitely you will still feel upset over what happen..sometimes we just have to leave to God..at least you have two kids..i wanted one but...so consider you are stil bless
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focus on tuning your body first..and put all your concentration on your kids first..i believe look at them will make u forget what u are going thru..just dont give up...keep trying!
 
Aileen,

So sorry to hear that. Hugz~~
Dun give up, ok? You are blessed with 2 kids, I believe there's still hope. Take care, dear.

Its been quiet here these couple of days, how's everyone doing??
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hi princessleopard,
do u have any children at the moment or trying for the first?

thanks for Dr Su contact but too far for me as i stay in the East
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forumbb,

I am trying for the first for 4 yrs now.
I also travel all the way to Dr Su, I stay north. No choice, if its good, I go all the way.
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I see..i saw your earlier post about thyroids.. one of my friend having same issue but manage to give birth to 1st but been trying for 2nd too..

what does the doc say? how to increase the chances? me too having some issues and been trying for 5 years...hais...
 
forumbb,

My thyroid under control now, so gynae din see this as a prob. My tests result are ok. My hb's semen all are fine except for the normal form part. Dunno is it that. He's on medi for that. Dr Su said my kidney & spleen a bit weak, which makes implantation difficult. So, now perhaps that is the prob? Gynae & tcm check so differently. I just take medi and see how lo. If not all these yrs gynae only say its unexplained infertility.
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princessleopard,
totally agree with you, gynae always use scientic terms to tell us unexplained infertility..only tcm can help us tune our body but this takes alot of time...and especially if miscarriage too many times, super hurting to the body until womb become cold..

today quite quiet...probably Fri all busy rushing
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angelic,
i have heard of this before and shouldnt be affected pregnancy..there are cases people got preggy.
 
forumbb,

I really hope tcm can help then and can conceive naturally. I already spend so much time, effort and money, yet every month is disappointment. Finally, conceive yet mc....

So, do u plan to see any tcm?
 
forumbb
im in the east too and dr su is rather far for me too so currently im going to a tcm doc zou in AMK you might want to try
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Hi Avocado,

Thanks for the link. I have none of the symptoms stated there, weird huh? I am going back to tcm on sun. Have been seriously ill for 2 weeks now, just started to get better. Hope to get a more accurate pulse.

u mentioned our spleen, so ur hb also same prob?
 
My first menses finally come. This time round very heavy.

My menses used to be very light, two to three days only.
This is also symptom of weak spleen n kidney, blood not able to flow to womb. Very crucial for pregnancy bcos if blood nv flow to womb, bb will not survive.

Now really v glad tt my menses become heavier than before

Looks like tcm really helps
 
hi princess,
the sinseh said I've digestive & autoimmune prob once he chk my pulse.which is very accurate.I suffer fr. gastric for years.Recently,situation got improved after i take probiotics.

As I've thyroid,he said it is due to spleen weakness and thyroid is one of autoimmune disease.He said in tcm,autoimmune relates to hormone too. I find him very smart,he can even guess what kinda food i eat daily.

Hi JHW,
Same! my menses also very light,last the most 3days.After 3days,spotting for another 4-5days.
I think ur explanation is correct,if blood flows no good,bb will not survive.That's why the sinseh said my bbs all not last more than 3mth preggie.

U r very hardworking,it is very far to travel fr. bedok to bt batok.I feel so ashame coz i stay near holland which is quite near to bt batok.But now,I am seeing a sinseh at Pandan gdn,recommended by my ex-colleague.As my timing cannot match Dr Su.My son is in PM school,but Dr Su only opens in the morning.
 
Avocado..

ya , like piky mentioned... you can visit dr su on Sat afternoon and Sunday morning.... Some sisters here visited her on friday nights too....

your menses was as light as mine !!
did your sinseh give medicine that help to regulate your menses?

actually i am a very lazy person.... but this time round, i really feel a great blow hitting back at me after my m/c....i never expect that it is so devastating.... i really hope to get my health back and try again.... like you mentioned above, our m/c let us see the hard truth and it is a blessing in disguise ,at least we know our health is not good and start to work hard on it.

thanks for sharing the article !!

oh ya something to share,
Dr Su told me that While you are trying to Conceive, please do not attempt to do Jogging or Yoga.... Just Brisk walking will do if you really need to exercise.
 
Avocado,

Glad to hear u found a good tcm. Hope can get back to health soon.

jhw,

Every week u went to see Dr Su, did she change ur medi? cos this round she gave me 3 weeks medi, so no need go back so often, as the medi work well for me.
 
Jhw,
Congrat!! Finally ur menses arrive.
My first AF also came very heavy aft the MC.
Dr Su mention it a good sign but must ensure there no headache etc. If u feel any discomfort, then best to go back see her.

Princess,
Good for u!
I'm still on the weekly visit. Haiz! Duno when my body will recover.
She keep changing the medicine each time I see her. Althought it look the same but content is different.
Oh... She also mention to me, best to see her few days before ur menses arrive.
 
For the first two weeks, i was given same med, and next two week different one.
then first three weeks, i need to visit weekly. Yesterday, she give me two weeks med so i no need to go back le. However, my hb one month med finishing, so i ultimately may need.to go back...

My menses this time round only heavy, no other discomfort,
 
celest,

For me, very diff to predict when AF cos mine is 27-32 days. And she din mentioned that to me. Yesterday, AF jus came, so though she gave me the medi, I cannot start eating till AF completely finish. So, that why I 3 weeks no need to go.

jhw,

I see. Ya, sometimes very difficult to blend in well. I will need to go 3 wks later, hb's medi is 25 days. See, by then can go together get medi anot lo.

I think its really good not to eat cold stuffs/drinks. cos Dr Su said my womb condition is not cold type. I told her I completely stop drink/eat cold things for 9 mths now. She said very good.
 
Cold things are not good one. I remember reading an article saying cold drinks will solidify the oily food u eat n cause cancer....
i find that i become more energetic after taking her med.... and really can feel the difference..
 
jhw,

I read that article before too. It's also better not to drink water before and after meals I heard. Else nutrients cannot be absorb readily.

I am the opposite, I feel very sleepy after taking the medi. Every night I start to get very sleepy at 9pm. very weird.
 
Princess... oh i heard that before from the professor tortoise children education show too....
Ok i will try not to drink water too near to my meals.
 
Wa! Avoid water before n after meal. That hard wor.
I can stop drink water during the meal but after that it a must.
Now I will takes Dr Su's medicine after meal, no water how to drink. Lol...

Just went to see Dr Su.
She say my headache is causes by the wind entering my womb during my menses period. Was given medicine n hope to expel the wind n headache. Can see that Dr Su quite disappointed with my health. Haiz!
 
Celest,

Before meal abt 15 mins is ok, but after meal preferably an hour. I do not take my medi immediately after meal.

Dun be disheartened. ur health will get well, just follow her instructions.
 
Celestine, princess
i usually take dr su medicine one hour after my meal.....

Dr su taught me to cook black sugar red date tea to drink during menses, maybe u gals can try too

Dun worry celest, as long as u continue tcm and refrain from taking bad food, ur condition will improve....
 
Jhw,
I thought Black sugar drink is only after menses end?
She mention it to me before but I was to tired n forgot to ask the recipe. Dun mind share with me too? *^^* I'm not worry, I just have to continue taking her medicine. "wink" Only the migraine is killing me now.

Today I went for appt to my gynea too.
He did a scan n I successful form 4 egg. Horrey! But still not big enough, the larger egg is only 1 cm. He say best is 1.5cm. After the scan it did boost my fighting. Have to Jiayou Jiayou!
 
Hello ladies I am back. Having my mc for a month and a week has past. My first af is still not here and after the operation the gynae said might take another six weeks before it comes. Meaning which my af is delay for twelve weeks.

Hope everyone is well.
 
Ling,
It been 12 week since ur D&C?
Best go back ur gynea to have a check.
Might be ur hormones that causing the delay.
 
Ling, maybe because u just had operations, so there is delay. Try not to think and relax. Sometimes the more we worry, the more it dun come.... jiayou!!!!

Celest,
Oh i din know gynae can check our eggs hehe ...
i also din know we shld chk too.... but i really abit scared to see gynae...
dr su told me to drink during menses leh.
i just put a handful of red dates and two table spoon of black sugar. And boil. My mum also help me add ginger n wolfberries, up to your indivdual preference ... also cook in slow cooker
 
Celestine,
Sorry but can I ask?
This wind is caused by food you’ve taken? Or example of using fan or air-con?
Or bathing in cold water etc.? Did you do something in extreme?
I’m just wondering because recently have been using air-con and can’t help but drink some cold water and food. I just can’t continue taking warm food as the summer here is really killing me. I am starting to have sore throat and ulcer too. My 2nd AF has just ended and I’ve to brew ba-zhen and take pak foong pills, these will further add up to the heaty-ness.
It’s so difficult to balance our life. How much is OK or what is consider as moderate? For how long we need to take warm food?
Btw, I’m not going back SG so can’t get to my body tiao. I can rely on ba-zhen, pak foong pill only. So sad …
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Minnieluv,
Where are u residing at now? Hotter than sg ah?
If u sleep aircon, then better make sure u wear long pants n socks when sleeping .
 
jhw,

Usually gynae check follicles unless we are not ovulating, or taking clomid or iui/ivf. It usually internal scan.

Celest,

Does Dr su knows u drinking LRD tea already? I told her I am drinking and she say continue to do it. She din mentioned abt changing my recipe. maybe u should check w her first before u change recipe as every individual problem difference. So we need difference boost.
 
Jhw,
Princess is right.
Im now taking Clomid, that why im having a scan to see any follicles and the size of it to ensure the Clomid works on me. ^^

Wa.. need to add 2 tablespoon of black sugar?! That consider alot wor.
Each time i will only prepare my LRD in a thermal flask, wondering, if i can add into it instead.
Will ask Dr Su for my next visits. Thanks!!

MinnieLuv,
Which country are u now?
Aircon is totally fine, as in a aircon room tend to be more dry. That why often we need to drink plenty of water after staying inside aircon room for a long time. For the cold food and drinks. Best is to totally avoid it. Last time i use to can't live without cold water but once u get hang on it, u wouldn't feel a thing, It all abt the habit we have. Now i will hate taking cold water, it will make me chills.

For me, i totally stop taking cold food or drinks but my cold womb is still there. My body does not have enough energy to expel the wind during the stage of my period. Dr Su saying once i feel any headache, i will need to see her.

Does not mean that everyone body is tend to be so Yin like mine. So if u are drink/eat too much heaty food and causes ulcers, try to drink the LRD every alternate day. Best is to see a TCM and tell them ur condition. Then will able guide u more.

Princess,
Yes, she knew abt me taking LRD everyday.
It abt my nasty cold womb and body that causes so much problem. She wanted me to stop drinking LRD, for 2 days n concentrate taking the medicine she gives. Hope to expel the wind in me. Cross finger!
 
Shoppixe,

Sorry to hear that. The whole thing came too fast for u to react. Feel free to share your feelings here. We are here to listen. We can understand how u feel. Mine is bb not growing, heartbeat stop at 10th week.

Are u on mini confinement now?

Take care!!
 
Hi Shoppie, I had an ectopic pregnancy last August. Only discovered at 7 weeks when I went to the gynea for the first check up. Has my left tube removed as a result. However, I conceived in Jan and now am 7 months pregnant.. So not lose heart. Take good care of your health and try again when u r ready.
 
Princess,
Hm.. She say that medicine expel my wind, works best on my menses period but she will continue to give me the medicine for only 2 days. Today already Day 3, still have bad headache. She given me another medicine to continue aft I finish this dosage. Hope it works. Cross finger.
 
Shoppie,
Big hug! We understand n feel pain. I lost my bb heartbeat at 10 weeks.
Feel free to share with us here, as it does help relieve abit.
 
Hi all, saw you gals were talking about prenatal yoga. I have attended one and will like to strongly recommend it to all of you. My backaches are greatly reduced and I definitely have improved in my spine alignment which prevents me from slouching due to the weight. Her breathing techniques really helps me to manage my stress level and anxiety attack so much better. And pelvic strength training works really well as well. Personally, I really like the teacher as well. She is very dedicated and also explains the reason behind some poses and that motivates me to try to do even better. I saw someone recommended her through another forum and I tried her and now I am strongly recommending to all of you. Ohmsantih yoga is the name of the school and teacher's name is miss war war.
 
Princess,
I wouldn't give up on TCM, Seriously believe it will works.
Everyday I'm faithfully taking her medicine. Jiayou!! *^^*

Girls,
Isst alrite to take Ba-Zhen soup during ovulation period?
I'm trying to start drinking but dun dare to start now, as I finally start to ovulate. Hehe!
 


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