working_wife
Member
Hi Grumpus,
Yeah, saw yr post. I think before this I was too adamant at wanting everything but now I feel for my own sake (and sanity), I need a little bit of control over this. I can't just bf and not know if its enough. Today so stressed I told cl that I will not bf for rest of the day, she feed formula, I pump. Then later can feed the ebm to them tonight.
And both hubby and I have decided to give up the cup n spoon feeding. Seems like my bbs are always falling asleep when doing feeding, that in the end, end up not drinking much. I think bottle feeding will be better and hopefully can help increase their intake. I will still try to latch them on first then followed by top up and pump. Hope this works!
For those who latch n pump, what is the right interval to pump? Also, today is one week 2 days since I started bf. I dun feel like my breast full of milk and engorged type leh. How long does it take for that to come in? Now, I pump 15 mins can get 40ml. Is that too little?
Yeah, saw yr post. I think before this I was too adamant at wanting everything but now I feel for my own sake (and sanity), I need a little bit of control over this. I can't just bf and not know if its enough. Today so stressed I told cl that I will not bf for rest of the day, she feed formula, I pump. Then later can feed the ebm to them tonight.
And both hubby and I have decided to give up the cup n spoon feeding. Seems like my bbs are always falling asleep when doing feeding, that in the end, end up not drinking much. I think bottle feeding will be better and hopefully can help increase their intake. I will still try to latch them on first then followed by top up and pump. Hope this works!
For those who latch n pump, what is the right interval to pump? Also, today is one week 2 days since I started bf. I dun feel like my breast full of milk and engorged type leh. How long does it take for that to come in? Now, I pump 15 mins can get 40ml. Is that too little?
working_wife
Member
Grumpus, wishing u a safe and smooth delivery!!
happyhippo
Member
singapoh
my boy is just past 1mth. during nites he wakes up between 2-4 hrly for feeds.
daytime he cant seem to entertain himself in cot for more than 15 mins then will start crying. now thinking on how to train him for a routine.
gan
at least ur gal can entertain herself in the cot, my boy cant leh.. such a attention seeker. wonder if its becoz he knw we will pick him up once he cries... but very hard to let him cry and don't pick him up leh.. like very poor thg, esp when he can't communicate, can only cry to call us
my boy is just past 1mth. during nites he wakes up between 2-4 hrly for feeds.
daytime he cant seem to entertain himself in cot for more than 15 mins then will start crying. now thinking on how to train him for a routine.
gan
at least ur gal can entertain herself in the cot, my boy cant leh.. such a attention seeker. wonder if its becoz he knw we will pick him up once he cries... but very hard to let him cry and don't pick him up leh.. like very poor thg, esp when he can't communicate, can only cry to call us
ilovemoomoo
New Member
Grumpus
Have a smooth delivery
Pandawife
I pass the left over ebm to other twin to feed so no wastage.
Singapoh
did u bring ur twins to pd for vaccination ? I was told if one mth yet to do hep b jab then second mth can do 6 in 1 jab ? Quite confusing what 5 in 1 , 6 in 1 jab ...
Have a smooth delivery
Pandawife
I pass the left over ebm to other twin to feed so no wastage.
Singapoh
did u bring ur twins to pd for vaccination ? I was told if one mth yet to do hep b jab then second mth can do 6 in 1 jab ? Quite confusing what 5 in 1 , 6 in 1 jab ...
rostrum,
its huaxia e-naming centre, along d shops towards childrens tower fr foodcourt. got caligraphy brush, seal making too.
basic naming:
analyze ba zi n five elements, provide 5 names n 20 auspicious characters for selection - 88 bucks (got hardcopy n
results within 24hrs)
i hav seen some online or outside master charge ard 68 bucks, so depends which one you prefer or find it convenient.
its huaxia e-naming centre, along d shops towards childrens tower fr foodcourt. got caligraphy brush, seal making too.
basic naming:
analyze ba zi n five elements, provide 5 names n 20 auspicious characters for selection - 88 bucks (got hardcopy n
results within 24hrs)
i hav seen some online or outside master charge ard 68 bucks, so depends which one you prefer or find it convenient.
happyhippo
Member
grumpus
hv a smooth delivery. update us soon !
hv a smooth delivery. update us soon !
Happyhippo my gal can entertain herself in the afternoon but sometimes she also wants to be carried and cry real bad. Like just now after 6 pm feed she didn't sleep was wide awake and after leaving her in the cot, she cried loudly so CL went to carry her and she quiet down. I took over after my dinner and when she sort of fall Sleep, I put her back in cot n within 10 mins she cried again!! Have to carry her.... And she didn't fall asleep till 10pm. Daytime no such problem but lately night time she fuss alot. CL told me last few nights in wee hrs when baby is not sleeping, she wants to be carried . I m worried this wld become a habit n everynight I need to pump and carry. =s
Gan, do u hv a rocker or carrier tht bb can sleep in? i read tht babies would sleep better in smaller enclosed space as compared to a big cot as in the tummy, they are very enclosed.
it works for my ger..when we put her in the cot, or playpen, she will fuss... but once she is in the rocker, she will doze off on her own...
u can giv this a try...
it works for my ger..when we put her in the cot, or playpen, she will fuss... but once she is in the rocker, she will doze off on her own...
u can giv this a try...
Baby,
Thanks for sharing your story. How long did you breastfeed? Do you feel any side effect after taking the pill to stop production of BM? You find that your breast shrink in size?
Seems like if I want to wean the natural way in a short time, lumps can recur and I may get engorgement again..sigh..but I don't wish to take medicine to stop the flow cos I've heard of many side effects it will give.
Pandawife,
Our situation are really quite similar. But yours is even tougher than mine as you have to feed 3 babies instead of 3! Hang in there! Don't give up yet as your milk supply is still building up. As for me, mine has almost stabilized.
How's your blocked ducts now? Have you recovered completely now? I'm also taking Curam now. The LC at KK told me that I may need 2 weeks to clear my blocked ducts. I'm now latching my boy, pumping the remaining milk out and massaging my breasts every 3 hr. It's really tiring as I can hardly rest at all! So I can understand your situation well. Don't worry about not being able to take care of your babies. You should rest more during your confinement and just leave everything to your parents and in-laws.
Just like you, I used to express my BM and feed the babies FM only at night. The 2 babies would each get a bottle filled with BM for their breakfast. I would be so happy watching them drink cos that's the only time they could get a full feed of BM instead of having to top up with FM. However, ever since I had mastitis last Tue, I started to latch my boy again as the LC said that our babies are the best pump to empty the breasts.
Fashion spree,
I only had 1 massage session and I started to develop mastitis. Her massage was good but I couldn't continue as I need to solve my engorgement problem first. Did you manage to slim down further these few weeks? How much is your baby drinking now?
Thanks for sharing your story. How long did you breastfeed? Do you feel any side effect after taking the pill to stop production of BM? You find that your breast shrink in size?
Seems like if I want to wean the natural way in a short time, lumps can recur and I may get engorgement again..sigh..but I don't wish to take medicine to stop the flow cos I've heard of many side effects it will give.
Pandawife,
Our situation are really quite similar. But yours is even tougher than mine as you have to feed 3 babies instead of 3! Hang in there! Don't give up yet as your milk supply is still building up. As for me, mine has almost stabilized.
How's your blocked ducts now? Have you recovered completely now? I'm also taking Curam now. The LC at KK told me that I may need 2 weeks to clear my blocked ducts. I'm now latching my boy, pumping the remaining milk out and massaging my breasts every 3 hr. It's really tiring as I can hardly rest at all! So I can understand your situation well. Don't worry about not being able to take care of your babies. You should rest more during your confinement and just leave everything to your parents and in-laws.
Just like you, I used to express my BM and feed the babies FM only at night. The 2 babies would each get a bottle filled with BM for their breakfast. I would be so happy watching them drink cos that's the only time they could get a full feed of BM instead of having to top up with FM. However, ever since I had mastitis last Tue, I started to latch my boy again as the LC said that our babies are the best pump to empty the breasts.
Fashion spree,
I only had 1 massage session and I started to develop mastitis. Her massage was good but I couldn't continue as I need to solve my engorgement problem first. Did you manage to slim down further these few weeks? How much is your baby drinking now?
Soon to be,
I have been breastfeeding for 10weeks . You took quite long to stop breastfeeding but it seems like that's the best way to stop without taking medicine and can also prevent engorgement. Perhaps I should start now but I'm really in a dilemma now. I want to give the best to my babies and breastfeed as long as possible. But once I return to work at the end of the month, I definitely won't be able to afford the time to keep expressing milk. I'm also very scared of getting engorgement again..
I have been breastfeeding for 10weeks . You took quite long to stop breastfeeding but it seems like that's the best way to stop without taking medicine and can also prevent engorgement. Perhaps I should start now but I'm really in a dilemma now. I want to give the best to my babies and breastfeed as long as possible. But once I return to work at the end of the month, I definitely won't be able to afford the time to keep expressing milk. I'm also very scared of getting engorgement again..
Pandawife don't have a rocker .... Maybe will go buy one once my confinement is over or maybe someone will give us as a gift this sat during baby shower .=p where did u buy ur rocker? Is it ex?
My gal is sleeping now and I am waiting to pump for her 1am feed.... Hopefully she will sleep and not fuss after the feed
My gal is sleeping now and I am waiting to pump for her 1am feed.... Hopefully she will sleep and not fuss after the feed
Gan, i got the fisher infant to toddler rocker as gift from sil for the bbs.. its very useful .. bbs enjoy sitting in it.. we hv 2 sets now.. might get a 3rd set soon...
if i remember correctly, it shld b about $150.. its the only rocker in the mkt tht can be used until toddler stage.
bing, my blocked ducts are alot better... coz these few days i latched my bbs more frequently.. indeed they are the best way to clear the ducts. today i latch 4x, pump 4x..going to pump 5th round in another 30mins... totally exhausted ! everytime latch bb i struggle to stay awake.
i can understand how u r feeling now.. as mothers we all want the best we can giv to our little precious! my hb has been asking me to consider stop bf once i finish my confinement..coz i will not hv so much help round the clock.. he feels tht if i continue pumping 3hrly, i will not hv the energy to look after the bbs .. its really a struggle...i try not to tink so much abt it now..just focus on pumping n latching....i suppose the output at the end of the 1 mth will help me decide if i shld continue or not.. coz if still miserable amts of it.. then might not be worth the energy n effort...esp when it has to be shared among 3...
if i remember correctly, it shld b about $150.. its the only rocker in the mkt tht can be used until toddler stage.
bing, my blocked ducts are alot better... coz these few days i latched my bbs more frequently.. indeed they are the best way to clear the ducts. today i latch 4x, pump 4x..going to pump 5th round in another 30mins... totally exhausted ! everytime latch bb i struggle to stay awake.
i can understand how u r feeling now.. as mothers we all want the best we can giv to our little precious! my hb has been asking me to consider stop bf once i finish my confinement..coz i will not hv so much help round the clock.. he feels tht if i continue pumping 3hrly, i will not hv the energy to look after the bbs .. its really a struggle...i try not to tink so much abt it now..just focus on pumping n latching....i suppose the output at the end of the 1 mth will help me decide if i shld continue or not.. coz if still miserable amts of it.. then might not be worth the energy n effort...esp when it has to be shared among 3...
Hi mummies using medela pumps, how do u get rid of the water in th tubing? I realized some bm got into the tubing too... If I wash how do I clear the water in the tubes? Can we buy spare tubing ? If yes, where?? Thks!
Rose try sleep, else once Bb here u can't sleep thru the night in the beginning stage. There is no chance to remove my dark eye shadow as of now ... I m a panda.
Rose try sleep, else once Bb here u can't sleep thru the night in the beginning stage. There is no chance to remove my dark eye shadow as of now ... I m a panda.
ilovemoomoo
New Member
Maid n baby
Initially i got a maid to help do housewk n cook simple meals, but I realized after cl leaves I will sure need her help to care for the bbs. I not fang xin to let her carry my bb but if both cry n need feeding for example then how ? Haiz...
Mummies w maid, pls share to what extent u let the maid handle ur bb.
Gan
I try to swing the tubes to get the trapped water out. But sometimes not totally possible. So usually rinse the endings only inside of the entire tube. Btw do u sterilize the tube as
well ?
Initially i got a maid to help do housewk n cook simple meals, but I realized after cl leaves I will sure need her help to care for the bbs. I not fang xin to let her carry my bb but if both cry n need feeding for example then how ? Haiz...
Mummies w maid, pls share to what extent u let the maid handle ur bb.
Gan
I try to swing the tubes to get the trapped water out. But sometimes not totally possible. So usually rinse the endings only inside of the entire tube. Btw do u sterilize the tube as
well ?
grumpus
Active Member
Gan,
BM used to get into my swing tubes as well. I just flush the tubes with water, blow through one end to get as much of the water out as possible then air dry. Or u can connect the tube to the pump without the funnel, bottle etc and let the pump just run. Basically just pumping air through the tubes so it'll dry out.
Mums n babes at united square is an official medela distributor, check with them for spares or get online.
Nancy,
I dun bother to sterilize the tubes cos it doesn't come into contact with the milk that is fed to bb.
BM used to get into my swing tubes as well. I just flush the tubes with water, blow through one end to get as much of the water out as possible then air dry. Or u can connect the tube to the pump without the funnel, bottle etc and let the pump just run. Basically just pumping air through the tubes so it'll dry out.
Mums n babes at united square is an official medela distributor, check with them for spares or get online.
Nancy,
I dun bother to sterilize the tubes cos it doesn't come into contact with the milk that is fed to bb.
working_wife
Don't be too stressed up with bf. Asian woman are slower to get their milk supply in. I'm no different, my boy was on a 100ml by day5, now day7, he is already on 120ml. My bm is just not enough for him. I think my supply is now just a pathetic 10-20 ml 3 hrly. So just top up with fm.
Compared to my neighbour in hospital, she could get 100ml each time leh, so envious.
It is however important to continue to let them be on the breast first then fm, so bb knows he needs to work for milk. Otherwise, if you give them bottle first, they will be used to getting milk fast and may not want to suckle. Then if not feeling too tired, then pump for another 10 mins just to stimulate supply, may not get anything but just trying to stimulate supply.
The LC told me, its important to feel relax about bf, if too tired and stressed, at night then don't bf, once a while its ok.
Another thing is if u think u are taking too long to establish supply, can try to get medication(motilium) from your gynae to increase supply, see if that works. I think one sister here, tickles, correct me if I'm wrong is taking that and works for her.
rose,
There are alot of sleepy souls out there like us that cannot sleep..... U going to join the club soon.
ladies with older kids
I now feel like I'm having twins, my #1 is also asking for milk middle of the night, then 2 hrs later #2 cry for milk....urghhhh
I think my #1 is a little jealous of her little brother. She is so sticky now.
How do u pacify your older kids so that they know that they are just as well loved ?
Don't be too stressed up with bf. Asian woman are slower to get their milk supply in. I'm no different, my boy was on a 100ml by day5, now day7, he is already on 120ml. My bm is just not enough for him. I think my supply is now just a pathetic 10-20 ml 3 hrly. So just top up with fm.
Compared to my neighbour in hospital, she could get 100ml each time leh, so envious.
It is however important to continue to let them be on the breast first then fm, so bb knows he needs to work for milk. Otherwise, if you give them bottle first, they will be used to getting milk fast and may not want to suckle. Then if not feeling too tired, then pump for another 10 mins just to stimulate supply, may not get anything but just trying to stimulate supply.
The LC told me, its important to feel relax about bf, if too tired and stressed, at night then don't bf, once a while its ok.
Another thing is if u think u are taking too long to establish supply, can try to get medication(motilium) from your gynae to increase supply, see if that works. I think one sister here, tickles, correct me if I'm wrong is taking that and works for her.
rose,
There are alot of sleepy souls out there like us that cannot sleep..... U going to join the club soon.
ladies with older kids
I now feel like I'm having twins, my #1 is also asking for milk middle of the night, then 2 hrs later #2 cry for milk....urghhhh
I think my #1 is a little jealous of her little brother. She is so sticky now.
How do u pacify your older kids so that they know that they are just as well loved ?
babyhopeful
New Member
Grumpus,
Take care and hv a smooth delivery!
Take care and hv a smooth delivery!
Bing, if u wan to stop by the time u need to go back to work, u prob wan to start slowly cutting down the # of ur pump or direct latch-on sessions.
I can understand ur dilemna. Before delivery, I told my hb and families that I wan to bf till bb turns 1 yo......my bf journey wasn't v smooth either....though my supply kicks in pretty fast and I was having more than enuff supply for my son in the start, my son was (1st) having difficulties to direct latch on in the 1st mth, (2) reflux issues....he wld always vomit out in large vol after feed, which he didn't hv the same prob with FM...thus, after hb n I discussed, we concluded that let's stop bf and jus let him drink FM though I was still determined to give him partial BM. I didn't stop pumping but definitely not as diligently as before as I felt heartpain whenever he vomitted after drinking my BM....and when he was able to take in my BM better, my supply had already started to drop.....I was desperately trying to increase my supply then...instead of the usual 15 mins pump, I pump for 30 mins....and I realised that the volume either remained unchanged or lesser to keep up with the demand for baby....n my hb, in a way, wasn't as supportive as before since my son was growing v well w partial bf.....in actual fact, he kept asking me to stop bf-ing n simply give him total FM....I was feeling quite demoralised and tired....1 fine day, I jus made the decision to stop pumping and give my son total FM....it wasn't an easy decision, I felt sad and guilty...I cldn't even push myself to the 6 mth mark......but I kept telling myself, tt's it! I need to feel better to be a better mum to my son.........I know that I hv done my best....till today, I still tell myself I have done my best....and I've made that decision which is good for both for us......8)
I can understand ur dilemna. Before delivery, I told my hb and families that I wan to bf till bb turns 1 yo......my bf journey wasn't v smooth either....though my supply kicks in pretty fast and I was having more than enuff supply for my son in the start, my son was (1st) having difficulties to direct latch on in the 1st mth, (2) reflux issues....he wld always vomit out in large vol after feed, which he didn't hv the same prob with FM...thus, after hb n I discussed, we concluded that let's stop bf and jus let him drink FM though I was still determined to give him partial BM. I didn't stop pumping but definitely not as diligently as before as I felt heartpain whenever he vomitted after drinking my BM....and when he was able to take in my BM better, my supply had already started to drop.....I was desperately trying to increase my supply then...instead of the usual 15 mins pump, I pump for 30 mins....and I realised that the volume either remained unchanged or lesser to keep up with the demand for baby....n my hb, in a way, wasn't as supportive as before since my son was growing v well w partial bf.....in actual fact, he kept asking me to stop bf-ing n simply give him total FM....I was feeling quite demoralised and tired....1 fine day, I jus made the decision to stop pumping and give my son total FM....it wasn't an easy decision, I felt sad and guilty...I cldn't even push myself to the 6 mth mark......but I kept telling myself, tt's it! I need to feel better to be a better mum to my son.........I know that I hv done my best....till today, I still tell myself I have done my best....and I've made that decision which is good for both for us......8)
happyhippo
Regarding your question about whether I have joint pain. In the 3rd trimester, I did feel the fingers abit ache. But thought maybe its occupational hazard. But after delivery, those feelings miraculously gone down with the swelling. So I think this must be pregnancy related. So I think if your aches are pregnancy related, it is only temporary, it will slowly go away, just different people different rate.
I'm not a confinement follower. I do not have cl, just my mum is helping me for confinement. So most of the time, I need to do things myself. So I touch alot of tap water. I also bathe everyday. So I won't know whether I will have problems later in old age...haha. But if u think about it, who doesn't have problems when they get old. So I feel its very subjective.
I eat confinement foods, drink red date tea and DOM, but I do not take them everyday, will eat normal food also. But even after the confinement period, my mum will also cook confinement food on and off.
Regarding your boy not sleeping during the day, don't carry him too much and too long so that he does not get used to being carried. He will fuss but hopefully he will eventually get tired and doze off. Having some rocker time also help to settle bb. Works for me.
Regarding your question about whether I have joint pain. In the 3rd trimester, I did feel the fingers abit ache. But thought maybe its occupational hazard. But after delivery, those feelings miraculously gone down with the swelling. So I think this must be pregnancy related. So I think if your aches are pregnancy related, it is only temporary, it will slowly go away, just different people different rate.
I'm not a confinement follower. I do not have cl, just my mum is helping me for confinement. So most of the time, I need to do things myself. So I touch alot of tap water. I also bathe everyday. So I won't know whether I will have problems later in old age...haha. But if u think about it, who doesn't have problems when they get old. So I feel its very subjective.
I eat confinement foods, drink red date tea and DOM, but I do not take them everyday, will eat normal food also. But even after the confinement period, my mum will also cook confinement food on and off.
Regarding your boy not sleeping during the day, don't carry him too much and too long so that he does not get used to being carried. He will fuss but hopefully he will eventually get tired and doze off. Having some rocker time also help to settle bb. Works for me.
Girls the lochia flow will just stopped like menses? Mine seems to stopped last week but once the blood stopped o had yellowish discharge and quite Alot (sorry for TMI) have to wear panty liner.... U have that too? I m afraid I have infection but dun feel pain or itch down there
working_wife
Member
Thx bubbybear!
Singapoh,
since u mentioned u direct latch yr son and pump for dot, when do u do the pumping? If I only have 40ml now in second week, does that mean my supply is low? Do I still have hope that it will kick in and become more if I diligently pump?
Singapoh,
since u mentioned u direct latch yr son and pump for dot, when do u do the pumping? If I only have 40ml now in second week, does that mean my supply is low? Do I still have hope that it will kick in and become more if I diligently pump?
Working wife,
Dun worry. U can increase supply by stimulating yr breasts. At 1 point, my supply seems to drop but I manage to increase again by working harder.
My boy only latch 1 side so after bf, I pump both sides. When he was younger and doesn't move so much, I latch and pump at the same time.
Most of the time I had to combine milk from 2 or 3 pumping sessions to make 1 feed. When she latch on, it's enough after 5 mins or so.
Now that they r having solid. I pump during that replacement meal so that I dun hv to set my alarm to pump in the middle of the night.
Dun worry. U can increase supply by stimulating yr breasts. At 1 point, my supply seems to drop but I manage to increase again by working harder.
My boy only latch 1 side so after bf, I pump both sides. When he was younger and doesn't move so much, I latch and pump at the same time.
Most of the time I had to combine milk from 2 or 3 pumping sessions to make 1 feed. When she latch on, it's enough after 5 mins or so.
Now that they r having solid. I pump during that replacement meal so that I dun hv to set my alarm to pump in the middle of the night.
miracle_baby
Member
hi singapoh
Is it normal for 8mth plus to get 3-4 times non-watery stools? and red anus even with numbers of diaper rash cream use? Is alright to leave it be? I have visited the PD thrice for it! Is solid foods sensitive?
Please advice as you are experienced of 3 kids.
Is it normal for 8mth plus to get 3-4 times non-watery stools? and red anus even with numbers of diaper rash cream use? Is alright to leave it be? I have visited the PD thrice for it! Is solid foods sensitive?
Please advice as you are experienced of 3 kids.
Working wife,
I pump exclusively for my girl. That's why I can know how much she is taking. It all started when she was in NICU. So I just pumP n feed her. I do latch her every night before she slp. But it's more of comfort for her than really drinking. I've tried latching her on for 1 hr to feed her but I find it not as effective as she's still hungry n needs her bottle after that. Make me more tired. So I only latch her on every now m then, not really for feeding but just a human pacifier for her. She hates pacifier but she loves to latch on when she wants to slp.
I pump exclusively for my girl. That's why I can know how much she is taking. It all started when she was in NICU. So I just pumP n feed her. I do latch her every night before she slp. But it's more of comfort for her than really drinking. I've tried latching her on for 1 hr to feed her but I find it not as effective as she's still hungry n needs her bottle after that. Make me more tired. So I only latch her on every now m then, not really for feeding but just a human pacifier for her. She hates pacifier but she loves to latch on when she wants to slp.
Nancy,
I bring my twins to Private Chilren clinic in kkh for vaccination. At first I was confuse why take both 5 in 1 and 6 in 1. I thought only take either 1. I asked the staff at the counter. She gave me a list. It's correct this way. I lost the list.
As I m giving all the vaccination on the list so I just follow doc's appointment given to me.
I ever tc of twins myself coz my ex maid appeared "busy" all the time with housework. It was super tiring. I didn't let her bathe, just change diaper once in awhile and watch them while I bathe/eat.
I bring my twins to Private Chilren clinic in kkh for vaccination. At first I was confuse why take both 5 in 1 and 6 in 1. I thought only take either 1. I asked the staff at the counter. She gave me a list. It's correct this way. I lost the list.
As I m giving all the vaccination on the list so I just follow doc's appointment given to me.
I ever tc of twins myself coz my ex maid appeared "busy" all the time with housework. It was super tiring. I didn't let her bathe, just change diaper once in awhile and watch them while I bathe/eat.
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