Childless Not By Choice Group

Rostrum,
the bloatedness that you feel is it daily for the last 3 months? For me, I will have that bloatedness only during the "ovulation period" though I din ovulate.

As for dryness after taking TCM, i only have it if I'm too heaty after the tcm.
 


Hi elle,

How are u?

Yes, bloatedness before O and abt to O.....aft O I will feel better....y issit lidat? Is this normal?

Tt means the dryness is due to too heaty? I want to ask Dr Zou bt feels paiseh....
 
elle, sometimes I wonders whether my bloatedness is cause by so many drinks and supplements and TCM to take...feel so sad wheneva koligs come walking to me tt I put on weight
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hi Rostrum, nope, KKH already scheduled me to use May's menses which will come last week of May so will be quite near June also. Ok, will try not to think so much esp -ve thoughts!
 
Rostrum,
I'm not sure whether it's normal or not because i've been having tat type of bloatedness for years.I ever ask Dr Zou about the bloatedness and she says it's normal.

Dun be paiseh with Dr Zou. Just ask her whether it will cause dryness because for my case, only when i'm heaty or hormone imbalance, i will have it.

I'm ok but just had an infection which causing very bad cramp till I can't move. Doc suspects it's UTI but I dun think so,cos the symptoms totally different with UTI. So meanwhile I'm on antibiotics, waiting for the urine test result
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Rostrum,
just ignore ur colleague's remarks on putting weight. u can always tell them, ya lor, my hubby pampered me too much tat's y gain weight
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sunflower, jia you!!!
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elle,
Thanks for the clarifications....
I tink I will muster the courage to ask Dr Zou the next time I go to her...
I feel so sad wheneva kolig ask me I like putting on weight kind of question and at the
same time sounding out whether I m preggie which I m not lo
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So u r safe to take antibiotics? Did the gynae give u clearance?
 
Rostrum,
i know how it feels especially when we try so hard to conceive. maybe i've been struggling with infertility for so long till it no longer really affects me. after yrs of treatment cum hormone imbalance, i gain weight for almost 15kg in 8 yrs and very difficult for me to lose it. Starting those around me asking whether i'm preg but slowly, they know i'm merely fat and stop asking.
Just ignore their remark. Maintain a healthy lifestyle and mind are more important.

The gynae says it's fine to take antibiotics so I just continue to finish it. But for the painkiller, i only take it on the first day when i really cannot tahan the pain. but onwards, i din take it anymore.Now i only hope it's not some serious infection.
 
Sisters, i will write a proper posting over weekend, these two days cannot access forum from co. Writing from iPhone now.

Lyn, take dang gui is good, it's also a herb for general womans health. Maybe can take immed after menses once and once just before ovulation. Don't exceed twice also. If u don't mind, what is ur day 3 reading and day 21 prog with range of ur lab at dr foong and at nuh. Just want to see if can
detect any thing can suggest direction forward.

Rostrum, yes, infact my frequency of soya intake is quite regular like at least one serving (a cup of soya milk fr mr bean) every alternate day.

Elle, did the gynae do a urine culture for u to grow any bacteria that can be found in urine? If not, after u finish antibiotics, ask him to do urine culture for u. U need two test. One to see if urine is infected n second test to grow any bacteria to see what strain. When u pregnant, easy to get infection. Try to destress as stress can weaken immune system that is needed yo fight infection. Since u oredi cover by antibiotic, don't worry. Just check urine again after that. Also do hvs (high virginal swap) after antibiotic for a peace of mind

Rostrum, u going to meet dr loh soon izzit? Hope u have a encouraging meeting k.

Gan n miraclebaby, wish u girls luck n remember, symptoms are not a prerequisite for pregnancy, proven by history.
 
Sunflower, Can understand, it's always scary to embark on a cycle, frozen or fresh, and u have us to share ur "scariness" k. We always around to shelter some for u.

Meow, remember to drink pinky ensure. Jia you!
 
Rostrum, it could be effect of cycle still. Two months after my cycle, I look bloated, put on weight, serious water retention until my friend as me abt my swollen eyes. If that is also the case for u, u will eventually get better, eat a lot of fruits to detox. Beet root and berries are especially gd for detoxing.
 
elle,
Yes, guess I hv to slowly accept it...hving the fat comments and hopefully one day I can be immune like u...
Hope yr infection is nothing serious....Take care yeah...btw, do u noe the gender of the bb already?
 
babyG,
Yes, I m miting him in end of May...hopefully he dun hv attitude plm...U mean the bloatedness cld be the cycle effect? Bt it has been 3 mths le leh...scary....hormones still inside?
Btw, I managed to c some EWCM today....quite sticky...I guess must "talk" to u then it will appear...hehe...
 
Poor girl meow...hang on there....Jia you! Please up yr protein intake ok?

Gan,
If u wan to noe the chances of yr BT results, an easy way is to take bbt...though it might not be accurate...
 
Rostrum, won't do BBT coz i did that for fresh cycle, actually no accurate.
Guess will use HPT bah though got phobia due to past experiences. my hubby just bot 4 HPT back. abit siao hor
 
Gan,
When is yr Bt supposed to be due? So u bringing forward to Mon? Will it be too early to test?
It takes a lot of guts to test HPT...I hv a HPT inside my drawer and it is expiring in Jul...
Tt day jus take out and hv a lok and wonders when I will hv a chance to test?
 
Babyg, its only 2day that i sat down and read thru all the postings carefully that u r really a very very good advisor for the diet change... u did alot of research. For me i did progesterone test 2 years ago and lost the report. For my recent ivf, dr f didnt change progesterone level coz he given alot of progesterone support. But when i was trying with clomid and clomid iui my period always report before even i can use HPT so its a sign of short luteal phase problem which is always associated with low progesterone right?
I m not on tcm herbs too coz like u i felt it didnt benefit me ... I have decided to take my mind off abt ttcing.. U r right that we have to improve our own health,lifestyle and mental health before embraking on a new chapter in life... I admitted that i m very stressed up during ttcing and even bfore, during this ivf i m quite depressed which indeed didnt bring good results but now that everything is over i m more relaxed and my conscience is clear that i have tried my best....
 
Babyg, can i know whether u buy ur bee pollen and royal jelly? My mil say royal jelly take those pure ones better, capsule one not as good?
 
Ladies, side track abit again.... its abt my BIL again. Remember i told u all abt this BIL and SIL getting married next year and now looking for flat? Yesterday MIL said my BIL wants to lend 20k from my hubby for renovation hor.... I feel angry not coz i m self fish and dun want to help.. We juz spent 10k on ivf last month so who is gtg to help us huh?? Damn angry like me and my hubby earning tons of money... then later i overheard BIL also lend money from MIL and also wants to lend from us.. her wife has lots of money to spend on Lv bags wat so why must lend from us?? I told myself not worth getting angry over this coz my hormones already imbalance so cant get angry.. but i m not gtg to lend lor..
 
hi ladies

thanks for all of your concerns! im feeling better already.

however the daily progesterone jabs are painful leh! muscle aches now.
 
Lyn,
Its good tt u decided to take yr mind off ttc now...I tink I m jus like u...v stressed even before embarking to another cycle and sometimes I wonder whether I shd go ahead first or wait further? Hv been trying to tel myself to stay +ve and calm...bt sometimes I can be quite emo...

Lyn, dun yr BIL and SIL hv savings? Their reno v exp ah? Cos all of them duno u 2 hv been spending alot for ttc, tts y they tort u r rich cos u r DINK....Same for me...my ILs also tort we are well to do since we hv no kids...Bt they duno we are saving and scrimping for all fertility treatments, supplements and TCM.
Jus tel them u al no money lo....mabbe a few thousand lo...cos if borrow so much, will take hw long to repay back? Relationships hurt wheneva $ is an issue...
 
Hi rostrum

i answered ur qn Liao hor.
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actually can ask GP to jab also der. But u got to pay if u go to GP. N hopefully ur GP knows how to do it loh.

I choose to go KKH for the jabs cos then I hve an excuse to walk a bit. So bored at home leh!!!
 
Hi ladies.

For those who opt for progesterone jabs. Pls get the nurse to jab into upper thigh. Not as painful as compared to lower thigh. N it really helps if u distract urself when the nurse is jabbing.

I jus went for my daily jab at 24hr clinic. The nurse who did it for me tdy was GOOD! she kept distracting me... HahA. I'm like a kiddo hor. Then b4 I knew it, she already done w the injection.
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. Oh they can actually do the injection while u r sitting down.

The nurse who did it on my lower thigh yday left a very sore muscular pain.
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squat dn to sit in toilet also pain now.
 
Meow, best to jab on the butt but kk must let u sign a consent.. thats very rigid..

Rostrum, even if we are DINK so wat? We also have our own plans right? My MIL keep asking us to buy pte condo coz she know we have plans for that and saving up now then if she knows shld ask my BIL not to borrow from us coz we have our own plans also right? Ya u r right if few k ok la no choice but they want 20k! Borrow is easy if u wanna ask money back from ppl must look at their face i hate that!
 
Lyn - only lend your BIL the amount u r comfortable with. Once my hubby's friend borrowed money from him and i told him lend only the amt he won't feel too upset if his friend never return him. Like what Rostrum said, $ is a sensitive issue in relationship.

Miraclebaby - Don't see you "talking" in this thread. How are you doing? All the best to your BT tomorrow.
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Dear sisters, I think I BFP.
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But will wait for my BT on Thursday as a confirmation before i spread the bb dust to all. Not sure if i mentioned in this thread, i had very bad bloating through the night on D10 post transfer, so i was alittle worried as i am thinking FET should not have bloated feeling as there is no simulation. So I went kk 24 hrs on Friday night after work. The young doc press around my tummy said i am ok. Her pressing actually freaked me out coz i was telling her "dun press so hard u are hurting my babies!" Although she assured me that pressing won't hurt my babies but i was not convinced and told her she didn't understand how we felt going through ivf. anyhow i told her i wanted a BT for HCG. She told me it's still early as it is only my D11. but i insisted, so she took my blood. got her call late at night and she told me "You have some reading, it's 38.8. it's low, doesn't mean anything now but u could be in early pregnancy. go for your BT on 6 May" I was happy to hear some reading, but worried abit why so low. but i guess this reading is normal as it is only D11 when i went for BT. So been telling my baby/babies to continue to grow healthy and that hcg levels will go up up up.
My hubby bot HPT yesterday. Tested using watson HPT yesterday afternoon got 2 lines, though faint. Tested this morning using clear blue and see the cross very clearly.
I am very happy as first time i see a positive on a HPT. took pictures of them.
So sisters who are cycling, or waiting to cycle, don't give up. I am sure all of us will be blessed with our heart desire.
 
Lyn,
Bt ppl dun understand tt we DINKs also hv other commitments...In their eyes, we are damn rich which is not...cos fertility treatments are exp....Hw they understand when they can hv bbs easily?
Dun get agitated bcos of all these ppl...not worth....jus "eng Siu" them wif a sum will do...
 
Gan,
Upon reading yr post, I cannot help but keep smiling away....I duno y...cos u r giving me a boost to try out KKH...I m sooooooooo happy for u.....And I wld like to CONGRATS u in advance first!
I still tink hving symptoms during 2ww is a good sign of BFP!!!
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U made it....yr efforts paid off....
Take good care ya...Hope u pass yr interview and u will hv double happiness...
 
Lyn and Rostrum, thanks.
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I hope i can have a good HCG reading on Thursday

Rostrum, actually i dun have much symptoms for the FET besides burping and farting more. =P but that bloatedness that night was really bad, worse than during my fresh cycle, which i expected more bloatedness since i had so many eggs retrieved. That actually got me worried. I do have mild cramps on off during the 2nd week.

I am glad I have given you the confidence to try out kkivf. Go for it, sister. I hope to hear good news from you soon.

Lyn, as u are taking a break from ivf but eating the correct food as advised by babygalore and trying out naturally, I believe with less stress from ttcing, you could strike naturally. Jia You sister.
 
Gan, I tink burping is one of the symptoms though it might not applies to all, bt it applies to u!!! I keep telling dh abt yr good news and he is happy also esp u r Dr Loh's patient...it is a boost to our confidence at least to try out KKH.

Let me go and hv the 1st appt wif Dr Loh first and c wat he say...

U take good care ok?
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elle,
I ask Dr Zou today abt the bloatedness before and during O and she says its good to hv bloatedness when abt to O cos it shows tt our hormones are high...

Gan,
Did u take Dr Zou's medi thru out yr cycle including aft ET?
 
Gan, congrats!! all the best for your blood test nx wk
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Very inspired by the success stories in the forum. My menses coming liao, i gg to use this cycle to ivf le... finally after considering for sooo long... my first time, also feeling nervous too. Hope everything goes smoothly....
 
Tigi,
So u finally decide to embark on the cycle using this mth's AF...tts good! U hv make the first step out....JIA YOU!
 
tigi, jia you! All the best! =)

rostrum, i didn't take dr zou's med when i started the progynova for the medicated fet. But when my lining didn't grow during 2nd scan, i was really stressed and desparate as there is chance the cycle will be cancelled. That's when i took dr zou's med as she said got med to 'bu' lining. 3rd scan my lining just made the bare min and was given go ahead to et. Dr zou said some girls' lining 1 day grew 1mm....mine took 1 week to grow 1mm.
 
Gan, ok thanks...Dh is rather concerned abt my 2ww...he tel me its good to take TCM during my 2ww for more support as my last cycle, my AF reports during the 1st week.
Dun tink I will take her medi during jabs in my next cycle...v stressful...
 
Gan, recently dh has been talking abt IVF issues wif me eva since we decide to go c Dr Loh...he seems v kan cheong...sometimes make me stress up also...Hopefully we can go on a trip before our next cycle starts to loosen a bit...
 
rostrum, yes i think it is good to go for a short trip before the cycle, so that both of u can be relaxed. actually ur dh being interested in the process is good as after all ivf is teamwork between dh and u.
For 2ww, i know some sisters take dr zou's med, like nancy, tickles. But dr loh doesn't believe in tcm. When i went for review with him after my failed cycle, i asked can i take tcm, he said can but not during simulation.
My af for fresh cycle also appears 5 days before my bt. Let dr loh knows ur concern and see what he advice. But i think progesterone in kk during 2 ww is more than nuh right? My inserts was 3 times a day
 
Gan, ROstrum thanks. ya finally hor... :p
Lyn i m doing ivf at nuh prof wong ba if he not on leave. Elsc i understand stand in doc is called Dr stephen chew.
 
tigi, when i was doing fresh, i took 2 egg whites during lucrin and 4 a day during gonal f stage, also drank ensure milk. Just load more protein food, it helps in follicle growth and also minimise any bloatedness after er. Take vit C daily to keep urself healthy.
 
gan, omg i am never an egg lover... i remember i had very bad bloating after the HCG trigger jab during my SOIUI and it lasted one week. The bloatedness is gone immediately about one week after IUI. SHould have know that it wasnt successful then, since continued bloating is good right.... i ought prepare myself for ivf since the stimulation will be more severe... gulp ... thanks for your sharing
 


Hi Lyn,

Hang in there. Don't give up. Take a break, Tiao first then try again....you may strike naturally like babyG and Elle. They are my motivation.

If you are keen to try DHEA, I can pass the 1.5 bottles that I have to you. I don't intent to take anymore so you are welcome to them.
 
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