Childless Not By Choice Group

meow
his fats well hidden....
alamak.. every one also busy mah.. so terrible that lady.. anyway, it's normal... those meds really screw with our emotions.. well at least your hubby let u pinch him... hahaha

gan
can eat papaya. but unripe ones are a no-no... u know like the kind in thai salad. but eat in moderation as papaya is high in vit A. it is harmful to foetus if u are preg.. so cannot eat too much lah.
 


lyn, cannot go on 2nd apr, hb n i decide to take a r n r in a batam resort .... packages so hot becos of the hol peak season!
 
Jude, the venue to decide later.. Where do u stay?

Meow, i m on day 3 of BCP too and i feel my mood swing very bad.. I m easily irriated by ppl around me and find myself very impatient with my husband and also bite him to let go of my frustration but he is kind of used to it coz during 1st of years of marriage I also take BCP for family planning and my mood swing was also terrible... poor men they also have to take our nonsense..

Liz, ur hubby play golf u accompany him too? My hubby used to play golf on sundays but i keep complaining that he neglected me coz sunday is the only day i dun need to work so slowly he stopped playing liao and also becoz more overseas trip now...
 
lyn
cannot lah. he go with his friends and they are quite good. very stressful to go with them. hahaha
so lyn... u starting your cycle soon? Good luck!!!
 
Gan, dr f will usually want his patient to take BCP before a new ivf cycle. If i m not wrong this is to help him to catch the best wave whether to start ivf this month or not...
 
Gan,
Next time dun go acu on empty stomach..at least 1/2 filled...
Bananas is ok? Those Del Montes? I tort is cooling wor...
 
Lyn, u starting ur cycle, all the best!

Rostrum, i think i will try go weekend coz really tiring to go weekdays after work.
 
Liz,
Hmm...perhaps next time I tap on meow first, then hopefully u happen to be there and we can meet...
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Fyi, my dh also quite fat de...hheheeee....bt u jus go there swim ma...so its ok la...

meow,
I noe which lady u referring to....Dr Zou told me before...say she is v kan cheong one, die die also must be the 1st one to be acu at 9.10am....cos she need to rush off to fetch her children...I never seen her though...

Lyn,
Dr Zou's TW trip is sponsored de...by a drug factory. They invited a grp of TCMs there...bt I tink spouse need to pay. She go there to view their factory and hv fun at the same time.
 
Lyn,
I guess u dun wan to reveal much abt yr cycle...bt I understand..anyway good luck!!! Hope to hear good news from u soon...
 
Gan,
Ya, tts y now I go every Sunday unless I m on leave on weekdays, if not, definitely Sun....
Somemore I stay so far wor...by the time I reach there is already 730pm!
 
Rostrum, i didn't know Dr Zou was to visit a drug factory, tot was a pleasure trip. U know Tickles, she was sitting next to me yesterday, i didn't know until today when we chat in forum...kekeke
Normally for weekdays, i make 8pm or 830pm appt as i usually leave office around 7pm or later
 
Gan, Orh tickles also went to Dr Zou ah? Wah, seems like we actually can meet each other at Dr Zou there, jus too bad we dun recognise each other!
U leave the office so late?
 
Gan, hope this cycle has the number of follicles dr f wish to see so can start lor....

Rostrum, at this point in time nonthing to reveal yet..
 
rostrum, i didn't know abt the shower part until today when i read the other thread!!..geez i think sometimes i shower less than 2 hrs after the accu...geez but done liao, next time will keep at least a 2hrs gap.
Yes, have to work late coz too many things to do. but sometimes when i get fed up i will leave like 630pm. =P
 
Lyn, my menses still not here yet....i wait until abit sian le. but not willing to take meds to induce....breast been tender since last week but somehow don't know why still dun come.
I tested HPT too yesterday as expected BFN.

Dr f will check the number of follicles before starting? Hope u will start this mth, and we be buddies.
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Gan, ya he say actually if we take bcp ovaries r actually resting during the whole mth. So when menses abt to come he will do a scan to see how many potential follicles as a baseline.
 
Lyn, no, these few times I c her she never prescribe any med for me. Yesterday she just told me wait for the menses to come.
anyway i have not been taking Dr Zou's med deligently, sometimes take once a day coz forgotten to take. =P
Are u seeing Dr Zou now?
 
Lyn,
Jia you!

Gan,
Its ok la...jus rmb to shower at least 2 hrs aft acu next time...and rmb hor, please dun acu on empty stomach..my ex TCM told me if acu on empty stomach is like doing nothing...
 
Tigi, is it? I only know its not easy for her to conceive her first child leh... Maybe like ppl say once u conceived before its actually much easier to conceive?

Noi, babygalore had been trying to contact u but to not vaild...
 
Tigi,
Tt time I saw Zoe Tay in the newspapers and discover a bulge on her tummy...and I still commented to dh tt Zoe is preggie again? He still dun agree wif me...So I m right?

Wah...so envy hor...I tink she is hopping for a daughter la...
 
read it from channelnewasia.com... she is supposed to play a female cop in a new drama, but reject the role due to "personal reasons" and the replacement is chen liping...

Ya lor, envy envy.... have 2 sons already.... and not young but still have another....

Anyway, i went to see another tcm near my place.... (dr zou too far and reading from other post, seems like her queue is very long now)... he advises getting good egg quality and good sperm for a healthy bb even if decide to go for assisted reproduction methods... also measure low blood pressure ytd, he said fatigue can be one of the cause.... starting to worry now... whether to do ivf in april or postpone...
 
Girls, i think my af is here this morning....not full flow but coming...FINALLY the FET that suppose to start in Feb.
 
gan, busier becos progress in some project moving.... but not very busy.... it is a zheng yi shi, in south area...
you can embark on your fet liao! i m still waiting and thinking whether to do ivf or tcm to improve the body.
 
ros, i am the kind who feel tired easily... actually, these days been toying the idea of quiting job to help ttc... just a thot...

this sinseh doesn't seem to be into ivf... cos when i say i dont ovulate on my own, then he said how to do assisted reproduction ? Huh? then i got to supplement my words with ... need injection for ovulation... anyway i discount his words when he said can get pregg in 1.5 months fastest.... 6 months slowest... having seen somany tcm, i find that comment exaggerating liao...
 
Tigi, I am like you felt tired easily. Last time I can work to 9pm daily and still ok but these few months, i just want to go home when it is around 6.30pm. Felt like brain not functioning. Is it possible to apply for no pay leave in your co? so that you can take break to ttc, take up a hobby etc. But also at the end of the day you don't have to worry if you would get a job after the break.I have friends who took no pay leave for ttc.

Rostrum, yes. was actually very frustrated after testing BFN the menses still never appear. I think my cycle is "siao" already, since no menses in Feb. At least now i can move on, will apply for 1 week leave to stay at home as kkivf nurse told me yesterday only 1 day MC given for FET. hmmmmm the strange thing is the nurses gave me different instruction on taking aspirin. 1 told me take after ET when i pass the memo from Dr Loh abt starting FET in early march, the one yesterday through phone told me start on D4 of my menses. Ask them to check with Dr Loh and give me the right instruction.
 
Tigi, I tink royal jelly or chix essence will keep us awake if taken regularly...I tink the red dates drink also keep us awake...not tired easily...bt cos of u must take lotsa of water and fruits to prevent "over heating".

Actually most TCMs dun encourage us to go IVF...except Dr Zou...the previous TCMs I went keep telling me to try naturally....

Cannot O on our own is ok ma...we got the hormones jabs to help ma..if not call assisted reproduction for wat? Perhaps he dunno much abt IVF la...tts y...
 
Gan,
Well, at least now u can finally embark on it! Good luck!
Y dun u email Dr Loh on the aspirin thing? He will be the best person to advise u...
 
Haiz, jus came back from my uncle's hse...My cousin whom is 10 years younger than me is expecting their 2nd child...Their 1st child is shotgun de...Though they need my uncle's help to raise his 1st child, cos he dun earn much and his wife does not work cos both of them hv little education, bt they still can conceive easily lo...Mabbe no stress from work la..haiz..I feel v out of the place jus now..cos they must be wondering hw come I so old le still dun wan to give birth?
 
Rostrum, although they conceive easily but if u want me to choose i will not want to choose a life like ur cousin coz there is no quality of life and i feel its very irresponsible to depends on ur uncle to raise the child. Ur uncle also need to save up for his own retiree years right?
 
gan, i doubt my co. will allow me NPL.... my work is project based... and with the current economic outlook and my co. freeze hiring plan ... very tough ....

ros, the sinseh also says things like if parents condition not good, bb may have many problems after birth even if assisted methods successful... make me scared scare
maybe i go see r zou for second opinion ... i need some words of assurance now...

Agree with lyn that must be responsible for own children and not depend on ur uncle... if financially not stable, and i am in their shoes, i would consider family planning lor... afterall still young right... take birth control conception or smthg like tt... will think of the future and not just for the moment of initimacy or sexual urge lor...
 
Tigi, u will be surprised that there are more and more very young couples like 20-25 years already having 2 kids or more and somemore wife can be full time housewife... I was wondering fiancially can cope meh? Or they simply depends on parents or dun even have to give parents money? I think if i dun give my parents money i will feel very bad coz they have used their earning to feed and educate us in the past but yet i have no returns for them... its juz not right morally..
 
Ros/tigi, i also agree that if our egg/sperm quality is poor even if conceived maybe high chance of m/c or baby healthy not in good condition
 


Rostrum, agree with Tigi and Lyn that we should be responsible audlts, i.e. to be financially stable at least no need depend on others for financial support to have a kid lor.
 
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