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Lyn: I am suspecting that I have hyperthyroid. Sigh... I have been having heart palpitations (96 pulse rate per second) when I am resting/lying on bed! I can feel my heart pounding. And I have been losing 5kg since few months ago, which never happened to me despite dieting and exercising so much. And I eat like a giant - so the weight loss is unusual. I just had blood test this morning, will get the result end of this week. Can share with me your symptoms? And how did u manage to conceive? I hope my problem is nothing serious.
 
Hi cheeka, my onset of hyperthyroid was abt 10 years ago and I remembered I had weight loss despite eating more then usual n yes palpitation too. Other symptoms includes heat intolerance n short temper. I conceived thru ivf. Yes, u took the right step to hv a blood test. It's gd to find out early n take med to balance up the thyroid hormones, with the purpose correction u hv better chance of conceiving.
 
Thanks Lyn. It's just that our ttc journey has been difficult. But I guess, who else doesnt?
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Jia you!
 
Hi lyn and princessleopard,

Would like to check.. Cos i've had a miscarriage this yr.. Was looking up on thyroid symptoms but some are kinda common symptoms.. Was wondering is it possible that one will not be aware that he/she has thyroid? I was looking thru the blood test reports which i did in jan before my iui.. There was this test done - Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH).. If the result for that is normal, does that mean most probably i don't have thyroid problems? TIA!!
 
Hi min81,

Yes, sometimes thyroid can go unnoticed. For me, I was diagnosed when I am teenage. One day, my granny suddenly ask me to sit up straight and lift up my arms and fingers. I am trembling then. She ask me go for a blood test. Apparently, my hyperthyroid was very very serious, it had been around for many years with no symptoms. Thyroid runs in my family, thus my granny knows a lot about it.
Normally thyroid blood test consist TSH, T3 and T4. I am not sure if TSH alone is sufficient.
 
Princessleopard,

Thanks for your reply
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I don't have a family history of thyroid or other autoimmune issues.. But have been thinking about it after i did some reading up after the mc.. I'm wondering if it's possible cos i hardly ever fall sick and have been pretty fit.. I've also had quite a big appetite from young but never put on much weight, which i read could be a symptom too.. Do u think i shld just go to the polyclinic and get the TSH, T3 &T4 test done just for peace of mind? Hope it's not too exp..
 
min81,

Me too, I hardly fall sick, I think about once a year. In the past, I really can eat a lot yet dun put on weight. In teenage, I weigh 39kg. No matter how I eat, just cannot even put on 1kg.

Yes, you can go to polyclinic first for blood test. Its not expensive there, I used to pay $10 for blood test, not sure they have increase the price now.

Dun worry, symptoms sometimes can be confusing. Hope its not thyroid.
 
Princessleopard: Wah... polyclinic only $10? So cheap!!! I went to 24 hour clinic type and cost me $80 plus consultation just to do Thyroid test. The problem is, I cant go to poly cos I cant take leave. At least the 24 hour can do after work.
 
Cheeka,

Mine is different from yours. My company only recognise government clinics. So, I go there lo, can claim the consultation and medical leave. Usually, I paid around $20. Consultation $9, blood test $10, medicine $2. But these are 4-5 years ago, if there is price adjustments, still won't be very expensive.
 
Cheeka,

Maybe u can go polyclinics on sat morning? But gotta be very early cos will be crowded..

Princessleopard,

Thanks.. Okie then i'll go check.. Do u know if need to fast before the blood test? If no need, i can just go after my gynae check up tmr morning and get it done asap..
 
Hi Lyn,

Thanks for your encouragement. The treatment that the doc recommending is to inject some medicine before the Ivf procedure. Each tube is costing SGD2k and 3 tube is required before IVF procedure (total SGD6k). The purpose is to "tie up" my antibody and this medicine will last in my body for one month. This can allow time for my embyros to be implanted and stabilised.

May I clarify, is having high antibody results on the thyroid test means having high nk cells?

Is there any good suggestion for thyroid+ fertility specialist? I am thinking of looking for second opinion on my blood test. Thanks.
 
Princessleopard,

Just saw my gynae.. Told him i was thinking of getting blood tests to check for thyroid.. He flipped thru my records and showed me he had already pre-empted that and tested that before so he knew my mc was not cos of thyroid.. He said not to think too much since that's already ruled out.. So i guess i feel more relieved now..
 
Princessleopard,

No leh, the test was done before iui in feb.. No wonder he got me to go for so many blood tests.. I also dunno what are all the things i tested.. Haha.. I remember paying quite a lot for blood tests..
 
Princessleopard,

Ohh.. I tot it's usual pre conception check so didn't ask much also, just went for the blood tests.. I'm not immuned against hepatitis though.. He said that one is fine and can do after have bb cos that vaccination is 3 doses over a number of mths..
 
min81,

I din go for pre-conception check. Its only after trying for a couple of years without any good news then we go for semen test and HSG.
 
thanks cheeka and jhw for being so caring, really means a lot...

cheeka, yea I eat as much yogurt and all, i am on probiotics and have done parasite cleanse and am on the candida diet, using homeotherapies, i think everything that you can find on the net i've tried. even the doctors just keep shrugging. i wonder why there isn't another patient like me who has recurrent infection for more than one year? i wish there was past examples then maybe that would help. can't be i'm the only person in singapore who has it? so strange...

anyway the doctor said that i should try to have a kid as soon as possible before all my conditions make it impossible for me, and i looked at her like, huh, you're kidding right, i just came to you with my problem that i cannot have sex, and you are telling me to try for a kid ASAP? how?

anyway i decided to do what she said so now we are trying but i am in a lot of pain every time, i am bleeding and insides are tearing and it seriously hurts like hell, but i suppose just got to live with it and hope and hope and hope...?
 
Hi krazimitzi, I tried sending you a pm but was unable to. Pls contact me via pm as I might be able to help regarding your condition. Cheers!
 
Hey everyone this is Em,I am new here..glad to have found this tread as I am looking for support and to make friends who could really understand my sadness deep down inside..I think going into a depression soon as I don't have support from family and friends...
My case is hopeless as I was diagnosed with early menopause at the age of 30 and now I am 34 getting old...
I have taken time to read all of your posts and I totally agree and understand..and I believe you gals still have hope to be mothers not like me!
Please don't give up "jia you"
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Krazimitzi: JTS, I used to suffer from chronic infection, too. At some point, my gynae even did a biopsy; and at the end recommended that I go for a procedure to remove the infected cells. Not sure if our cases are similar, but if you want more info can PM me.
 
Dear all... Im just so sad... I just got my blood test result and it's confirmed. Hyperthyroid.

I dont know what to do... any natural cure? Will I be dependent on drugs forever? Will I be able to get pregnant? All questions in my head. Im just so sad... Our ttc journey is just so difficult.

Any good hyperthyroid doctor to recommend?
 
Hi em, u still hv a chance to be pregnant dun be disheartened by doctor words sometimes. May I knw based on wat the dr diagnosed u menopause? Perhaps u hv the same experience as me.
 
Hi cheeka, hyperthyroid is nonthing serious n I swear I hv
many frds with hypo thyroid hv children w/o difficulties! C a endocrine dr n take med, it's not for life but depends on person to person respond to med. my endo dr is in mt e, I find him gd.
Another big thing to do is to reduce ur stress level, as stress is the biggest cause of thyroid problem. Try yoga n try to relax n relax.
 
Hi Cheeka,

Dun worry. You should stay relax and calm, else no good for thyroid.

I did not see a endo, I went to polyclinic, cos my family members all went there. No necessary to take the medi for life. Once a dr took a detailed blood test for me to see what kind of thyroid I had, and its Grave's disease. He say it will follow me to my grave. But after taking medi for about 6 years (cos mine is serious case), I am now out of medi for 5 years now. I still do regular blood test to ensure there is no relapse. My gynae recommend to start ttc after thyroid is treated, which I listen to her. But I had friends who go ahead to ttc and gave birth to healthy babies when they had thryoid.

So there is still hope!!
 
Hi Lyn so glad to receive your reply.I think my case is very rare..my mensus has stopped totally at the age of 30..actually it has been very irregular since I was 22.Doc said was due to stress..I think from my accounting work and also living all alone in Singapore before I got married..I am from Malaysia.I know I am also to be blamed as I didn't take it seriously at that time..only took hormone pills occasionally.Only when I turned 30 then I wish to have my own baby but it is already too late
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I have done much tests and the scan(I cldn't remember the name)shows that my uterus has shrunk or dried up and the doc said that the wall inside is very very thin..no ovulation at all..so sad
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Hi all, came across this thread and read a few posts from u ladies. I was feeling depressed (woke up in the middle of last night & cried my heart out in DH arms...he was shock as I had been my usual self for the past months & so this outburst came unexpected even to me) but after reading your encouraging posts, especially from babygalore, I feel that I am not alone and if you ladies can live life to the fullest without focusing on TTC, I can do it too!
 
Thank you all for the encouragement. I went to my tcm doctor who is helping in my ttc journey. She prescribed me medication to be eaten twice daily. But she said TCM is a bit slow. But if I eat western medicine, I might have to stop ttc until it's treated. For now, I just go with the flow and see how it goes.
 
Just to add on... I think about how I got hyperthyroid and what could have triggered it. I think back... and what I did differently in the past few months... BODY SHOP came into the picture. I have nothing against Body Shop and I love their products. But…

I read somewhere that excessive IODINE could lead to over-active thyroid a.k.a. hyperthyroidism. I have not been taking excessive iodine-salt. Or seaweed… except for the occasional sushi meals. SEAWEED Yes! I have been taking seaweed facial products for the past 2-3 months before I started losing weight – one of hyperthyroidism symptoms. That is the Body Shop's seaweed series, especially the serum and moisturizer, on a daily basis. Then I started having bad heart palpitations….

So I did some reading on the internet. Basically, this is what I got.

“Seaweed is rich in iodine, essential for a healthy thyroid. Iodine is 100% transdermal, meaning it has the ability to be absorbed through the skin. Our skin absorbs the iodine and minerals in seaweed and stores them in the lower skin layers, then releases them into the bloodstream.”

A paragraph about seaweed soap “Some manufacturers claim their seaweed soap can also detoxify the body, increase metabolism, reduce cellulite and even have a slimming effect by stimulating the thyroid with the iodine seaweed contains. Research has not been done to prove or disprove these claims, but many users report success with certain soaps for these purposes."

And from Body Shop: Our wild–harvested seaweed comes from our fantastic Community Trade partner in Ireland, the Roaring Water Bay Seaweed Co–operative. Bladderwack is a type of brown seaweed that grows on the northern Atlantic and Baltic coasts of Europe. It has the largest trace mineral content of any known single source of seaweed and contains high levels of iodine , antioxidants and vitamins….

Needless to say, my conclusion is… <u> it is highly possible that Body Shop’s seaweed products have caused my hyperthyroidism – to a large extent. </u> That is what I believe. While I have no scientific data/research to prove that, I would prefer to err on the side of caution. I would stop using Body Shop’s seaweed products and see how it goes. If you pour over the internet, there are many “hate Body Shop” websites. The reason I’m sharing here is not to bad mouth Body Shop, but to share to all the ladies who are ttc-ing that this could hamper your ttc journey, just like it did mine. Better be safe than sorry.
 
Hello, I am admitted to hospital and felt my body is very weak. I couldn't moved my hands. Doctor said it could be due to thyroid level problem or stress (I told him I had hyper and now hypo and taking thyroid med and aisiprin.and had a number of failed ivf)

After blood test shows normal results,he said I am having depression and suggest me to see mental doctor. The doctor also has advised me a lot. Told me that there are a lot of imperfections in life. If you want something,once you get it, you may want something else. He said some time we just need to accept what we have and what we don't have. He told me his doctor friends have kids with defects, and friends with adopted kids and spent million to treat their illness. All he wants to do is to console me as I am very depressed and having a lot of worries and stress in work.he told me sometimes it may be a blessing if we do not have certain things or lost somethings. no matter how, he told me that myself have to let go things and willing to accept things and move on.

My hands can move now. Still figuring what to do next for my ttc journey and my mountain of works and travelling.
 
One more thing, I just had a packet of seaweed a few hours before my body felt low energy and short of breath. I better stay away from seaweed to be on the safe side.
 
Hi Ladies,

I hope to be able to help you all by sharing with you a supplement that can let thyroid get better and same time let u all conceive. It is proven and it is even used by a popular TCM who give it her patient and they managed to conceive naturally despite the fact that they belong to the hard to conceive naturally type.

u can email me at [email protected] if u are interested to know more.

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Hi Riana,

I suffers from hypothyroidism. I do believe it have something that affect my 3 pregnancies resulting in miscarriages. My level for thyroid are only minutely out but my Thyroid antibodies are sky high.

I believe the medication you are talking abt is IVIG which I had to go thru every 4 weeks when I manage to get pregnant at the 4th time. It is expensive but it seems to work for me. My daughter is 22 weeks old now. Very expensive baby because every month is 2 k on ivig not inclusive of doctors fees! But I felt it was very worth it.. I was just desperate enough to try anything.
 
Hi Ling,

How many times did u have to do ivig in total?
I did it once before my IVF transfer and I just got my BFP a few days ago. Was it nuh?

I have high thyroid antibodies too. Were u on thyroid medication throughout?
 
Hi Egg,

I did probably 5-5 times. When my NK cells reading stop climbing and my thyroid tpo stabilizd they stop me on it.

Only Nuh is doing this now from what I understand.

I am suffering from hypothyroidism and is essential we take our thyroxine as it can affect fetus. If hyperthyroid may need to change medication from what I know.

I have been writing to ministry of health to seek their approval to use medisave to no avail. I just cannot understand why thy do not want to reply all te emails. If you are doing ivig I also urge you to write in to moh.

Congratulations and stay positive!!
 
Lyn,

Thanks
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! I was just very very lucky to be able to have my girl...

I see you too have a hale and hearty boy
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congratulations too!!
 
My heartful congratulations to you all(Lyn,Ling,babygalore n the rest of you) who have gone through so so much and finally have a baby of your own..it's so so wonderful &amp; miracle
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Lyn,just wondering did u have the same experience as me as you mentioned earlier?? Do you think in my case,is there still any chance for me???
 
Hi Riana

Sorry to hear about your condition..hopefully you are much better now.I think I'm having a bit of depression too due to the thinking of I can never have someone who will resemble me..I have been trying to do more exercise to release stress and joining more CC activities..many people see me like very happy but actually I'm just trying to stay positive and cheerful however deep down inside I can't help it but still very sad..therefore I do understand your feelings..I'm trying to convince myself that it may be good too to live a childfree carefree lives if we are really not bless with one..do take good care of yourself first and come out from depression
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Pardon me I'm not good in writing...
 


Hi Mitera

Same here that sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the night and then I cldn't sleep back..thinking about all my sisters/frens have kids or having babies soon! Yes you definitely not alone as it already make two of us and some of other sis. in this tread..if you need someone to talk to that really understand n will be supportive as I do need, you may PM me
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Take good care yuh!
 

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