2WW - for those TTC-ing

Hi ozoc,

You are doing so-iui at kkh, may i know if u got take blood test before doing?
i'm now with a pte gynae and failed my first so-iui but no blood test is taken before doing.

Hi Ladies,
Is it necessary to take blood test before doing?

i really appreciate advices from u all.

Thanks.
 


HI Just Faith,

Alamak! Pls don't say u have no one with u on ur ttc journey.1st of all,u have ur hubby.u said ur hubby and u monitor BBT like monitoring shares.there u go.if u wanna compare,my hubby doesn't even care.all he wants is a baby.juz deliver the baby to him,end of story.2ndly,u have so many of us here.so hang in there.
 
Dr Loh

I was with TMC before I switch to Dr LOh at KKH. I usually standby alot of questions to ask him whenever I see him. I find him friendly and very experienced. At least he agree that I shouldnt go for ovaries drilling (i also have PCOS).. intially, he wans us to try natural for 3 mths before proceeding for other treatment. But after he saw me clear of blocked tubes on 11th August, he straight away suggest me not to waste time and start SO-IUI if I dun kena this month (try natural + HCG). FYI, the gynae that I used to visit at TMC keep pushing me to go for ovarian drilling. But lucky Dr Loh is against it.

He is a popular gynae - hence, longer waiting time is acceptable to me. Tell you hor, I have been in and out of Tan Tock Seng Hospital since 2006... the waiting time at KKH is chicken feet to me.. the waiting time at Tan Tock Seng Hospital (orthopaedic) is chicken feet to me. hiak hiak hiak!!!!!
 
Pauline,

I suppose you are referring the blood test for rubella resistance.

FYI, when I had two IUI at TMC, no blood test was drawn. Except to test for hormones.

Now I am with KKH. I already went for my rubella blood test le. But havent seen the result.

No harm going for blood test since it is part of TTC....
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Hi pauline
i only did bt to test for hormone once. After that when do my iui twice, no more bt are required.. So is ok for u that need not always do bt for every soiui done..

Hi ozoc
did ur embroye grow around 2mm everyday when u go for scanning? If yes then is ok.. Jus waituntil it grow to ur correct size.. Jiayou !!
 
hi just faith
How's ur bbt today? If still high, i tink u strike le!! how abt testing on hpt and letting us know the good news? good luck!
 
hi all,
not sure wat am i suppose to do.
i had miscarriage in Mar09 now still TTC but no good news..
wat shall i do? buy ovuation test strip? wat can it help?
many thanks
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Oh no, Joanne, I still purposely go & drink danggui twice during my 2ww.
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Hope it will not affect my chance. Will stop drinking from now.

Btw, which TCM you go to? Will you recommend it?

Today is D26, approaching the next cycle soon. Really very worried by the day, so scared to see my AF come.

ozoc: I'm also with Dr Loh, me also have the same feelings as you, always feel he very rushed when seeing me. Wait v long, but go in v fast come out. But since he's quite reputable, will just stick with him. Ya, he's not involved in the SO-IUI. I also don't really like the part when the nurse is the one who prescribe the dosage, duno if they will know the best. But since KKH is the biggest gynae hospital, think they shld have enuf experience.

Cutejojo: Sorry to hear that. If you are still young, maybe try natural. If not, maybe see gynae.

All the best to all your ttc journey.
 
roxy,

woke up from the wrong side of the bed today. keep sneezing and coughing. I did not measure my bbt as I keep having disturbed sleep. woke up at 4am, then 6am, then on & off...

since u reminded me, i m going to measure my bbt now... wait for 30 seconds.... 36.91, it says.

I still dun think I strike. I think AF reporting anytime - i have this "menstrual" cramp feeling... but it is on & off... in fact, i keep having this feeling since I had my HSG.

Nevertheless, thanks for asking.. i will keep everyone posted.
 
cutie,

sorry to hear abt your m/c.

how abt arranging a visit to gynae one of these days? relate your problem to him/her. and see whats the experts recommendation.

i know u are anxious to have baby... but sometimes certain things cannot be rushed... :D
 
Hi bb
my tcm doc is a very nice and experience one.. She is not so expensive compare to eys which lets me save alot of $$..
I do accupuncture by her too to help conceive..
Her name is dr zou yumin base at blk 505 ang mo kio ave 8. Her tel is 64560833. Till now, am still drinking her chinese medicine-安胎药。。

hi cutie and gals
still hv some lovalution strip at home intend to sell away and also hope to give u some of my bb dust at same time.. ;)
if u intend to buy, pm me , then let u know the price k.. (price: less than 50cent per pc) will sell cheap cheap to u gals since
hope it will help u bfp too..
 
Hi ladies,

I dunno how to put this across and I thought it's not something nice to share but I have no other 'outlets' and i think i may just sink into a depression if i keep bottling up.

Ever since we embark on this TTC journey, I have been the one initiating all the tests, visits, procedures. I'm starting to feel tired and discouraged again as it's me who wants a child more badly than him. He always tells me that it's ok if we don't have a child of our own. That we can still lead a happy life. I don't disagree with him but why can't he 'help' me out?

There is little fun left in BD and sometimes, esp. the crucial days, he's just not in the mood. I'm not sure if it applies to all guys but isn't 'doing it' only when HE is in the mood kind of selfish? Given that our fertile days are just that few in a month and missing that means it's gonna be a one month wait drives me nuts.

He did agree on having ivf but i feel that;s really the last resort cos it's not as simple as iui, and that we shld therefore still continue trying naturally before year end. Mom and MIL are all supportive (haven't really told them abt ivf plan). MIL even bought some lucky charm figurine for us to make one precious wish which she said will come true. When people ask us to 'jia you', i'm always the first one who replies with a loud 'YES", not him.

I know i'm not the only one stressed up by all these matters and getting stressed up is not going to help at all. TTC-ing aside, he's a wonderful guy. Am i getting obsessed with TTC? Am i just craving for attention cos i want him to know how it feels to be poked by needles, taking TCM med, charting BBT, paying attention to CM, responding to friends' questions about our progress, 'still no news?' etc etc.

Always thought I have a high threshold for stress but i guess i've proven myself wrong. The body is strong but the mind is weak.
 
muski
chin up! can totally understand how you feel. sometimes i also feel like giving up on ttcing, on life in general and also feel that I am going into depression soon..

but anyway to share my experience.. Men are like that.. same for my hubby.. initially he didn't care much also. But after all the failed IUIs and IVFs.. he is much more pro-active in taking his meds and seeing TCM (even though the prob lies with me). men are like that.. have a heart to heart talk with him. Tell him what you need from him. men are a bit dense sometimes when it comes to TTC as it doesn't affect them as much.

For my husband, he doesn't say anything or show anything.. but inside he is also feeling sad and stress with the whole TTC process. But he still puts up a non-chalence way of dealing with it and that's how they deal with it. I only knew how he felt when i told him off..

And don't belittle yourself by thinking that you have a low threshold for stress. the ttc journey is not an easy one... let me rephrase.. it can be an extremely hard road to take for some.. it is mentally and physically very straining and it is worse esp when IVF is involve. it is not an easy road to take but we still need to soldier on..

just my 2 cents worth..
 
hi liz, thx for sharing ur experiences.
my DH is a man of few words while i'm the chatterbox. he'll realise something's not right with me if i clam up. he did mention once abt the stress of having to perform on those crucial days so i thot it'll be better not to inform him when those days are. the drawback is, i'm the one getting anxious abt missing the opportunity. haha.
i agree with what u said abt men putting up a brave front or try not to let his feelings show. wish he'd loosen up.
i must think of how to phrase my tots b4 any heart to heart talk for fear of hurting him...
 
muski
no worries. men are like that. lack the ability to express how they feel or understand how women feel. they handle emotions differently from women. my DH much better after i talked to him abt how I feel.. now very pro-active liaoz.. bought multi-vits himself to eat..

haha.. tell you a joke.. one way to help him not to feel stress abt performing is to deprive him before those crucial days.. sure can perform one hahah since he will be hungry for it.. oopss.. just kidding.
 
Muski: Men like to bottle up their feelings wan..try talking to him how you feel and asking him how he feels about the whole TTC-ing process. My DH and I used to have the same issue, I am always taking the iniative and feeding him with all the info till one day when I couldn't take it, I totally lashed out on him. Datz when he said he feels stress too and didn't wan to push me either so that I will feel more relax. I know he likes kids too..but oh well.. Before we started on IUI, I told him we must tell each other everything, no matter how small the matter is,so that we can understand how each other feels. TTC journey is a hard one, so we must give lots of patience and love...JIAYOU!

Just Faith/bb: The problem is I dun tink my eggs are growing at all. I started @ 50IU for 6 days, den 75IU for 2 days, den 125IU for another 2 days, still no much growth..the most is 7.5mm (only like 0.5mm more than m first scan). Went for scanning today, Dr increased dosage to 175IU. We asked him is there any use of tryin since I dun seem to respond, but all he said is if we dun try we wun noe. Then proceeded to rush us off to the nurse to write the dosage. MAJOR sianz.
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Pauline: Yup, both me and DH needs to do blood test before proceeding with SO-IUI. But if you have done rubella test before, you could ask the nurse if it is necessary for you to do again.

Question to all doing/who have done SO-IUI: Any particular symptons? Can share/advise? For me, my stomach always feels bloated and hard, and have increased discharge.

JIAYOU and KEEP THE FAITH!!!
 
ozoc

from wat i gather, it is normal to feel bloated and "gao wei".. especially PCOS sufferers like us. Be careful of OHSS. If pain get too sharp, you must inform Dr Loh....Dun forget you are now on 175IU..... how to feel good?
 
Hi ladies

let me share my experience too: Pardon me saying this, but i think many men are juz "jian gu tou", including my DH. Tell him nicely to seek treatment, dun want. He told me things like just keep trying, if dun have, then it's god's will...Until the day when we failed SO-iui and that the problem lies in him, he's convinced enuf that there is really a problem...After consulting the gynae and it seems we had come to a dead end (other than embarking on ivf), i cried for the rest of the day. Gave him cold shoulder, refused to talk to him and MADE him feel guilty that he's the one causing me all the misery. Then he started to wake up and ask me to get him supplements to try....see, i just understand why men can't be as pro-active as us, esp when it's HIS problem...Well, ttc is a tough journey as we all know. If only we get more support from DH, that will lessen the stress.

Ozoc
i had loads of clear discharge after 2-3 injections to grow eggs. after so-iui, i oso had a bloated stomach, nurse say it's normal. Dun read too much into symptons. it's just adding onto the stress. A sympton is only a reaction of your body and as long as AF doesn't report, there is still hope..
 
Just Faith: You are right, really feels pek chek with 'stone' stomach. Like preg 3 mths liao..kekeke...(I wish). AF symptoms and preg symptoms are quite similar, dun give up! This is your 1st SO-IUI?

Crafty: Thks. Just wanted to know if itz normal. Totally agree that men NEEDS to be pushed and pushed to get things going....
 
hi ladies,

I really appreciate all your answers.

I done my iui during may but doc did not ask me to do any blood tests or sa for my hb. maybe he based on my past medical reports from kkh only.As for my failure, he concluded that my hb's sperms is not gd so he prescribed some vits for him to take for two mths.

As i intend to do another iui next mth with my doc again but my hb said he rather spend some money to do the sa and blood test to see got any improvements or any problems.my iui cost is nearly $2k cos dosage is 125iu then 175iu. i think this time, the cost will be much more higher as i dun really respond well with the dosage as i dun feel bloated and during the procedure, only 1 egg is gd.

i dun know whether to go to kkh to do my iui or to stick to my current doc first. if i fail this time, i intend to do ivf next yr.

thanks and regards
 
Wow the thread seems so active today.

Joanne: Thanks for the info. Will try the TCM if I dun strike tis month, and I tink chances are very low for me. Went toilet jus now & noticed a sliver of blood on the tissue. And I just cried when I saw that, I feel so useless that I can't contain my disappointment. Though I keep telling myself to be positive but at the same time dun set up for high hopes, but when it comes to the crunch, I always feel disappointed if it's not positive.

Muski: Don't feel alone, I feel exactly the same way as you do, esp everytime when my AF reports. But I'm lucky in the sense that my hubby coordinates with me quite well most of the time. Actually, he also wants the baby as much as me, if not more. I always feel very bad when my AF reports. Most of his married friends have kids already, and I really hope we can have a kid of our own.

I'm very glad there's these forum friends to share TTC woes. If not, I believe I may really go into depression. Also, some of the gals here have been pretty positive and inspiring like bbdust, monster and encouraging like joanne, and of course many others. Whenever I feel like giving up, I'll think of all these pple and tell myself not to give up hope,until maybe I reach 40 years old ha.

ozoc: Dun despair. I rem my eggs grow by quite a bit towards the ovulation day. Stay positive or just dont tink too much about it.
 
Hello ladies,

WOW! this thread is indeed active today.wow,so many of u ladies commented on ur hubby.u know wat? it makes my hubby seem normal coz he's like that too! EXACTLY as all of u described.I think it must be the Y chromosome.

For u ladies who have listened to my grumble,i'm sure u all know my hubby is quite unco-operative too.so u are not alone.he said exactly the same thing.no need to have kids,no need to compare,he'll be happy w/o kids etc.and then on the other hand,he said he loves kids,would like kids of his own etc.BUT he refuses to co-operate.the time he really co-operated,i struck gold,baby gold.hehe...too bad it didn't last long.well,9 wks is not a bad time to be happy.and it gave me a break,and consolation knowing i can conceive naturally.

so gals,hang in there! vent ur frustration here and be a sexy angel in front of ur hubby to cajole them.it seems to work for me...but only sometimes.haha
 
Hey bb dust to all,

U don't seem to be able to accept PM.I'm interested in the O strips.How can i contact u? Can u pls activate ur PM?
 
Dear gals,

Yup... guys are somehow MCP... my dh also didn't do anything much... jus cooperative when i need him... other than that... i go see gynea alone, see tcm alone... at most he fetch me back home only...since shun lu... so i thnk all guys are the same... hope u gals dun take it too hard and dun quarrel with ur hb over ttc... as if stress him also, think more diffcult to perform and conceive successfully...right?;-)

Hi bb,
dun be disheartened... if is not full flow... there may be pregnancy spotting so all is not gone yet k...

Hi monster...
oops... sorry... u may PM me now... thanks...
 
Hi ladies

Hubby and I trying to conceive for about a year but no results. Wanted to go for a checkup to see if there is any wrong. Any good docs to recommend?

Thanks
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kalaferns,

i think there are other threads discussing abt gynaes. maybe u would like to find out out more info on other threads.
 
ozoc,

I had IUI at TMC for consecutively 2 months. Din strike. That time only clomid + HCG, no jabs. Procedure was $200 - $300 only...

Then we rested.

Now I m back to clomid + HCG at KKH. He sent us back to try natural after HCG (since u know pcos cannot ovulate on our own). So today into Day 31 le.. AF havent report... but i think it is on its way ... lol
 
Hi kalaferns
i like my gynea alot after changing five top gynea(lc cheng, sf loh, peter chew etc). None of them help me after try 7yrs.. My current gynea is the only gynea who gives me confidence and he told me hope that he is the last doc i see to help me conceive. And he really did it.. ;) And his success rate of helping pp conceive is quite high..according to the blood test nurse..maybe u dun need go to the extreme of doing iui.. If jus checkup, u can go to any gynea...jus want share with others abt my diffcult ttc journey for so many yrs..
Also my gynea is gentle, wun hv any discomfort when do iui.. Monster, crathy, muski, jus faith, bb etc, my ttc journey last for seven yrs and am glad i didnt give up so that now my son can hv a sibling now( wish now is a smooth pregnancy n bb is healthy)...if i can last for so long, am sure u gals will succeed in the end too.. Dun ever give up k.. ;) jiayou!!
 
Hi crafty
am still seeing him till today so of course can tell u now..;)
he is dr foong fr o & g partner at gleneagles.. U wun regret.. My dh say we will hv save alot of $ if we come to him earlier.. Sigh.. He wun anyhow waste our $ to spend on unnecessary test.. Unlike p.chew.. Who asks my dh go for operation when actually he is perfectly fine after see my current gynea.. Lucky that time we didnt go for his operation.. Phew.. Who is ur current gynea now? U intend to change?
 
Muski,
Men think with their balls (sorry for being crude) but its true..the little brain there when it comes to TTC will take over the function of the actual brain...my DH also same is not supportive at all too though I made a BIG and BIGGER fuss over the whole issue. He always say nothing wrong nothing wrong, its just me who kan cheong and stress too much.

Eventually i felt that this is not the way to go so I changed my mentality and from then became a happier person
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Also maybe cause I feel that if I try naturally for more cycles and there is no news there will always be ART to help me.

You are not in this alone
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more imptly is we must not give up.... pls don't when u are down cry over it then pick urself up and continue walking. Jia you Jia you ~~~~~~
 
Joanne
i'm seeing Dr LC cheng..He's pefectly fine and i like him..But it seems that we've come to the option of ivf only, which i'm still hesitating. I'm trying natural till the end of tis yr, and maybe if still nothing turns out, i will turn to other gynaes for a second opinon.

bb_dust_to_all
yes, that's what i did. I cried, blame and curse over the matter..then picked up and start all over again...There are many occassions when i just wanted to let go. But I believe we can make changes by changing our mentality. So i will hang on, maybe i turn 40... :0
 
Crafty,
yupz... everyday i will just cry and cry .. cry until my DH bo bian cannot do anything abt me so just let me be... I told him why dont we divorce at least i no need to be so stress abt the whole thing.. well..its really extreme loh...

But after 1 yr of crying i really have enuff liao.. hate myself for it.. so i changed myself, just concentrate on stabilising my thyroid disorder cause my condition got worse when my emotions are not in control which makes it even harder to conceive. This year after my thyroid conditon stables we also begin to try naturally again to try our luck but it was not as stressful as before cause subconsciously I already plan to go for IUI or IVF if it still dont work out
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Do nt give up .. whether u are trying naturally or going thru ART... the day will come when all ur hard efforts are being paid off ...
 
gals,

my bbt dropped to 36.5 today... just saw some blood spotting.. think AF reporting le..

alittle disappointed. but what to do??
 
hi jus faith...
hugz hugz... new cycle new hope k... wht's ur next plan? All the best to you in whatever is your decision is.;-) JiaYou!

Hi Hope4bb,
Are you ok? what happen? wht illness u hv? Do take care orh...
 
roxy
Just dropping a note. So how have you been? this round boy or gal? How's ceraine? Have not seen her for sometime liaoz...
 
ladies,
still weak and tired....feel very legarthargic....hopefully will recover full strength soon.

i got a preexisting condition call lupus.
 
Jiayou Just Faith,gambate!

Hope4bb, get well sn!

Just went for another scan today,no change in size, still 7.5mm despite 13 injections already. Increased dosage to 250IU for 3 days, if still dun grow, tink mayb shld give up. Sigh, feeling sad and dissappointed. Dun understand how it did not even grow a little...
 
bb_dust_to_all & all,
Thanks for giving me the support i need! It felt much better knowing that you gals know exactly what i'm talking about unlike guys!
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The night after my post, he suddenly told me that he'd buck up and not add to my stress. It's really hard to get words like that out of his mouth so i was glad.

cat quek,
although i dunno much about lupus, but i'm sure you need to concentrate on recuperating for now. take care!

just faith,
don't be disheartened. whenever i read your posts, they remind me to be as positive as you and i admire how you could take this TTC thingy in good spirits. jia you!

joanne,
how have you been? hope all is well!

it's a sad day for me cos i'm mourning the loss of my beloved chinchilla who have been with me for almost 10 years. Not long after the pet cremation service returned her ashes, i received an sms informing me of the birth of a friend's a baby girl. what an irony in life...
 
Hi joanne, my iui not successful, AF reported. Really feel very disappointed. I can sense my hubby disappointment initially too. He ask me if my flow a little or whatever, I can feel he is very disappointed that the SOIUI also no result.

To be frank, no doubt I always tell myself to be positive, but everytime AF reports, I feel like my confidence drop to an all-time low, especially tis time. But, I will still pick up myself and continue on this journey. My hubby told me he read somewhere emotions also affect pregnancy, this is something that I think I should really control, cos I tend to be quite emotional.

Cat quek: Hope all's well for you. You just need to rest, but can still TTC, so there's hope. Take this time to "bu" your body.

Crafty: I'm also considering IVF at the end of this year if try natural no result. Though I also don't wish to go down this route, but I'm not young already, so think if wana try IVF, try at a younger age also higher chance of success.

bbdust: Hope all's going well for your bb. Do share us your udpate ok
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dreamz,
Yes, do pick yourself u again. It's not going to be easy i totally agree. If you are considering IVF during this year end like me, you should make your booking soon. When i went for my first consultation 2 weeks ago, the slot given is the Nov/Dec slot. Must secure a booking first at least. just my 2 cents worth
 
bb
*HUGz* i fully understand the degree of your disappointment. Since we've already done what could be done, the rest is fate lor. 첻, we juz have to keep trying. Maybe our perserverance will move үone day...
 


Joanne03 & lovely mummies out there..

I m going for my 1st SO-IUI with KKH this cycle. Already 2nd day of 50iu. I really brave gal... poke myself. hubby just watched to see if i have missed out any step. he looks helpless.... his eyes tell me... "it's okay if we dun have baby, i dun wan to see you going through this".

frankly, i m not really stressed out over this baby making. i know as long as "we" dun give up... i dun see how god can deny us of having our own child.

just hope, only hope, this will be my first and last SO-IUI.
 

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