(2010/07) July 2010 MTB

hi jaclyn, thanks for the info. wah u will throw away ah. currently my milk supply still on the low side so I really can't bear to throw away any milk. guess for the time being i'll have to be diligent and carry more stuff with me when i go out. when i have more milk then i will most prob follow your method which is so much simpler =) btw, where did u get to know about the 4-4-4 rule? From MAH prenatal class and a BF guidebook from mumsfairy, it says 4 hr room temp, 48 hr (2 days) fridge and 3 month freezer.

 


Rachel,

well, depends on weather also. 1 way to check whether bb is too hot/cold is to feel the tummy. feel the feet no use but if you find feet are cold, then wear socks. my baby's feet used to be quite cold but i wd feel her tummy to see whether she's cold. if tummy feels warm, that means she's not cold



my baby is 1 mth old but has been wearing those holey tops since 2 wks old, when weather is just too hot

 
My bb loved to latch on my breast for milk until recently she rejected to latched on, she will cry & gets cranky..dont know whats wrong.



Anyone experienced too?

 
GT-- welcome! Handling infant alone is tough enough and u have to handle 2. Not easy. Re latch on, think need to let my boy practice more so that he can get used to it.

 
Sito: sry haven't experience tat. Think pass motion? Mine cranky everyday nowadays but put near me latch awhile will slp.. But mom dun like so always ask CL handle as she wan me rest. A few time is tummy upset bah, see he pass motion until like wat. Others is jus nth, CL will talk to bb which I find abit loud, ask bb slp night alrdy, drink le mus slp, than give pacifier, play music try all sort of things. Usually I dun like to talk to her latershe sure say put ru yi oil. Though bb cord drop but I read alot say dun put scared bb sensitive or uncomfy cuz hot.



Yah, I told her 2days up tmr faster use emb tdy she like lazy go take than keep ask me bf or pump? I alrdy say use pump. so she dilibrately take the bottle up n pour out 70ml than put there rust. Finish feeding than say wanput back etc. I find not fresh n ask her throw la. Her face like dread going down. Not her milk she find I easy to pump ma. Supply low Liao she think enuff.. I got 3 more bottle tdy pump one.. Dunno wat trick she gonna up to. Now pumping put freezer than on off she wan I transfer to fridge thaw than within the dayask her use. Can't bear throw unless my ss high la. This method is after talk msn with shann than know de. Hah.

 
ceres,

Freezing milk n thawing would be the last thing we want to do. Best is to give bb fresh bm. If u pump n gg to use it within the next 4 hrs, just leave it at room temp will do. No need to heat up bm n tats the best, no heating. But if gg to use after 4 hrs, just leave it in the fridge, but not in the freezer. So if wanna use within the next 48 hrs, just heat it up, no need to thaw.

 
ceres, put in fridge can last 48 hours, i also think give fresh one better.. was thinking to freeze my EBM cuz i am ahead of bb chloe by 1 1/2 day, today she has been drinking the EBM which i pumped out yesterday, then tmr will drink the EBM i pumped out today, i don't like lei.. like not fresh though i know it's still within 48 hours. So CL and I decided to give her EBM even at night and stop giving FM.

 
Seems like lesser n lesser mum in battle. Bb start to grow n ve more routine? My boy been having flu n cough. Can hear he got phlegm stuck inside. So poor thing!

 
my bb refuses to slp tonite!

cuz he knows his daddy is here to visit tdy...

I went to slp cuz I was so tired.. n husby came to mum's pl to acc us tdy.

but bb seems to kno, keep staying awake, like very 'teh' twds daddy.

now he finally ko-ed. hopefully he'll slp till morning. then we find ways to handle him.

 
I'm finding that my baby girl on total BF, poos really regularly. My confinement lady changes diapers 3 x during the night. We can usually tell when she poos, cos she farts really loud. I'm wondering whether anyone changes diapers once after poop, or wait a little longer. Sometimes, straight after changing diapers, my girl poops again!!

 
ladies,my boy turning a mth old soon n u noe wat? CL went 2 brush teeth juz nw n i heard frm e bb monitor sum funny noises n CL nt there 2 coax him? (normally she will). Decided 2 cum out n saw e beansprout pillow was on his mouth! Tis boi even we swaddle him n lie è pillow below his hand,he wil use his strength n kick n kick! So scary! Any1 nv use it n bb wil stil sleep well?

 
cheese: my girl oso like that...swaddle tightly liao but when we woke up saw her...all 4 limbs are out but i'll still swaddle her till min after manyue no matter wad

 
Cheese,

my boy too! Cover his whole face twice! If he din cried out loud I won't have notice it. Now have to keep checking on him, n I place the beansprout pillow only on his chest without pressing over his hand.

 
rachel.im stil in e shock.mine nv cry bt got sum funny noise frm him.then i go his rm n see then realise!wil try 2 c if nv use it can a nt.it was cövering his nose n mouth.even put at chest,he wil use his strength n move up e pillow.gosh!

 
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Shann n suntan: my CL hor at night I slp she Kay siao give fm. She lazy go downstairs get the ebm n say wat the bottle warmer avent no gd. My fridge is quite cold so when warm must warm 2time. Warm base on fridge than base on rm temp. She lazy so.. Make fm or ask me latch. Than I pump out one redundant. She even say I got record so tell her can le. Tell le still same.. Keep ask me u got milk? Meaning ask me latch. Than 1 day I can pump 4 bottles abt avg 100+ ml to keep cuz night he drink fm. Than within 2 days must use.. She keep ask me latch later wasted leh the bm. Just waste the ebm n bf? Dunno wat to do now leh.. I still got 4 bottle avg 130ml to be used by tdy lor..



Hubby thinking ask her go off early.. But scared my mom can't manage. Dilemma lor..

Just to check ask her go off early no need pay her full right?

 
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Cheese-- my boy also like that. Guess most babies don't like to be swaddled and kept moving/frigeting here n there. So we must always keep an eye on them every moment.

 
Cheese,

Me not using beansprout pillow and baby sleeps ok. But usually will carry & rock her to sleep 1st then put her down in the cot. When putting her down, I'll put my hands on her hands and legs to make her feel secure before completely letting go. Same concept as the pillow- babies just wanna feel secure



Since 2 wks old, only half swaddle my baby ie. her hands are free coz she din like being wrapped up tightly. Now also got problem coz even when we swaddle her legs tight, she'll be kicking away the swaddle cloth and keeps pushing up

 
ceres: y not u today all use ur EBM then u pump out n store in the freeze instead....after 1mth she leaves u got more supply to feed bb mah

 
Swaddling

I only swaddle my boy for night. Day time he naps with beansprout pillow onhis chest but under his arms so tt when he throws up his hands, pillow won't land on his face.



I find there is no need to put pillow on the chest when bb is swaddled. In fact it is dangerous as some if u have mentioned, it ended up on bb's face.



Happened to my #1 too. I swaddled him then placed pillow on his chest. When I didn't hear anything (he wascrying), I ran to bedroom only to see the pillow covering his face and he was struggling to get it off.



Must becareful

 
Last 2 nights quite alright with sleep training. Boy seems to know it is bedtime and will feed more to store for the night.



Last night he fussed a bit but I still didn't carry him nor rock him to sleep. Just let him complained for a good 15 mins. Funny thing is he complained with eyes tightly closed. The minute I stroke his legs and called out quietly his name, he fell asleep!



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Ceres,

I agree. U shld freeze the bm for later use. As for cl, ask her get her butt moving to warm up ebm to feed bb.

 
Can I check amt of ebm bb is drinking? Wonder if I have been too stringy in giving boy.



Age : 30 days old

120 ml for bedtime and thereafter

 
My Boy since come back alrdy kick leg & hand so we dare not put bean sprout on him. He like to turn here n there swing hands etc than hit his face (wonder later will become blue black or not). Got once cover blanket for him.. my mom saw the blanket flip up cover his face, she scream and sort of raise voice at CL. Haha.. i slp like pig so dunno. Next day CL tell me not her fault wat. She cover him blanket cover leg, kick than expose leg than cover top the blanket flip also not her fault.



I just spoke to her regarding EBM. Ask her use up todays one tonight. She like ok than tell me all sorts of reason, like climb up & down outside dark ar.. i say can on light? She say dunno on which light so nv on & is scary. -.-

Than i say dun waste my BM so night dun feed FM feed EBM she ok lor.. than complain bottle warmer need warm 2 times. I guess my fridge is colder that is why need warm 2 times. Than she complain ppl who invented this nv invent properly.. than she bargain somemore say leave the water boiled before inside bottle warmer, she will top up on the next warming. Like this also lazy. Just pour & later if need warm than add water..

I confirm at night ar she sure slowly go down & warm milk. She wan BB to irritate my mom and later mom will say just feed EBM. She know my mom pattern liao. Gonna see how tonight. Sigh~ complain complain.

Worse still ask me a stupid qns just now. Just now i BF my BB, than BB cry she ask me "u got feed him full or not". Wow! If all mother know this than gd lor. Than she insist feed BB so i say go down get EBM, she say 70ml i say 60ml she not happy but still listen. BB just drank less than 60ml lor..

Think this CL dun suit me. My Hubby hates ppl sit on our bed especially ppl he dunno or dun like. So we buy CL a mattress & give her a chair. Past few days if BB on bed she will carry without sitting on bed & go to BB cot & change diaper. Recently, she sit on our bed & change without putting change mat below lor. than on off sit n fold BB diaper cloth & cloths.. sometime she just sit n see BB who is slping on bed. My hubby see liao face black black lor. I also dun like & just ytd she half lie down to see BB got urine or not.. wah! i am so afraid lor when ytd she say my mom upstair slping = nobody slping this bed hor than she sit on the bed half lie down! i stare at her.. than lucky mom came in. Phew!

 
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sillyhp: so ur cry it out method works now? B4 ur bb wanna slp, u need to carry him awhile? or u just place him on bed with him full awake?



My boy is 44days. I checked with my pd n she say 110ml is enough. Urs 30days n already drinking 120ml?

 
Jolyn,

My boy's bed time routine which starts ard 7plus

bathe

massage

on zircon

music

dim lights

ebm 120ml

cuddle and walk ard room then to his cot and stay there. Kiss. Goodnight then when I see him stoning, lay him in his cot facing inwards. Pat a bit talk a bit then leave the bedroom



if he does cry, will pat pat him.



Ya I tot 120ml alot for him but if I feed him less, he will not settle in well. Sure get up after a short while. Then I gotta latch him.



Have not weighed my boy since polyclinic visit. He was 3.8 kg 2 wks back

 
Jolyn,

first day he cried for 30 minutes before I carried him and repeat the walking ard the bedroom then lay him down facing inwards. Ended up he wanted more milk. Second night hubby gave him 120ml and he fell asleep inhis cot on his own. Last night I gave him 100 ml and he got up after 10 minutes whimpering then escalated to hungry cry.



Conclusion to me, must give him 120ml

 
sillyhp: well done for u!! Good job. Think now he roughly know all these are meant to be slping already. Now my boy also ard the same.



Milk at ard 7.30pm. Talk abit, music on. Carry him burp him n pat him. Stoning n i place him in cot. Pat pat n i leave. So far i feed him 120 to 130 for the feed at 7+ also to make him full. He always wake up ard 10pm for next feed. Urs? I will latch on for the rest of the night feeds.

 
silly: ur way of guaging is gd. Mine, CL straight give alot until BB puke milk from mouth n nose than she say not cuz drink alot is common. I ask her reduce than she face black than she reduce.

Should from below to top not straight stuff BB alot than see reaction lor.

This CL think feed alot more she can slp peacefully..Slp somemore snore.. my BB on off wail abit when she snore. Haha.

 
My CL not happy liao... cuz she climb up & down get EBM. Just now ask her bottle 3 left how much she keep saying feed her wat i pump. Bottle 3 tonight must use but i wan see left how much. she dun wan to check insist bring up warm it or pour 50ml up & warm it. can bargain one lor... I got pay her leh. she do lesser chores liao (no need wash my cloths) still bargain. irritating!

 
sillyhp: EBM it's ok if bb wana drink more coz BM contents alot of water....they pee more will drink more.....most of the time it's FM that causes overfeed problems

 
ceres, since CL has so many complaints climbing up and down, for nite feeds, why not put the ebm into the ice cooler box?



what i do is take a ice cooler box, put 2 ice cold pack along with 3 bottles of EBM . so no need to climb up and down

 
Now my CL super.. now she go test my warmer. I told her how to press she still dun get it than anyhow 50ml drink she press 85ml than say eh temp ok leh. i try temp like abit cold she say OK leh! I ask her go warm again lor at rm temp.



Si bei keng.. press wrong than say test & it works but temp still not ok say ok cuz lazy re-warm it up.



She nv consider for BB. Think she feel that BB drink come out ma so drink wat temp also ok. My BB not her's lor.



I ask her take 50ml out. Cuz BB just now drink liao. i dun wan talk too much so din explain. She bring up than say BB like dun wanna drink leh... i told her ya! cuz she just drank some from me of cuz no need give full amt. she quiet.

 
Pillow: Ice cooler box with 2 ice pack last how long? Later whose gonna throw the water etc.. Later she flood my rm haha!

The more we give in, the more she think she's big and the more she request for stuff lor.. or complain. Zzz. Told her diaper night use when we slp. she 6pm go use liao... -.- She keep quiet now she even worse on off will use diaper without saying if we happen see she say no sun or raining etc or no more diaper cloth etc.. So we learn to dun keep quiet tell her wat to do.

 
Suntan: i got to thru a frd. wanted my frd CL but she alrdy booked so she intro her sister to me (which i think not sister just a bunch of CL all together one).

Jia lat lor.. got complain before so now she ask her before she do things then worse.. will even ask stupid qns like "u got feed him full" when i BF him. If i know than i can advice all the mothers le lor.

wanted to change but dun wan malu her la. Now abit regret but only left 17days more! Ren! Think she also ren me now! haha..

My hubby even say should ask her wash my cloths also.

That say she told me after me 2 days later another confinement to do at msia side. But ytd her daughter call her say 31 wanna ask her go out she say ok. Lol... Dunno she say real or not one.. she even say the msia confinement far from her hse.

 
Sito: I had similar experience but yet to find out the real root cause. At first we thought it is because we bottle feed him with EBM at night but after testing we realized that is not the reason. My boy started getting cranky and need to struggle for an hour before he will latch. It started after I start drinking Yomeishu at night just before I sleep. I drank for 2 nights and my bb boy was cranky for the 2 days after I drank the wine. After I stopped drinking, he seems better. But we are also not sure if that is the reason but I don’t dare to drink for the moment. Another possibility is that my bb do not get hungry so fast nowadays. Last time we feed him every 3-4 hr. Now when we try to latch him ard 4 hr, he will reject and sometime will fall asleep. So nowadays, after trying for sometime if he don’t want to latch then we just let him rest and try again in half to an hour time. Usually by then he can latch better.



Julie: my boy like to poo again after we change his diapers too. Happened quite a few times already. He usually do that while I am feeding him and I know he poo cos can feel it and he also farts very loud haha. Nowadays we will wait for a while after he poo before changing unless he crys and gets cranky.

 
Jolyn,

same as yours. After ko, myboy will wake up ard 10 plus for feed. If he doesn't, I'll still give him a dreamfeed at ard 11 to 1130pm. He will get up ard 3 plus for 1 feed then ard 6 plus for another.

 
Phy & Jolyn: Ur BB how many days old? Mine only like 11days but his feeds are funny. Sometime can 2hr - 3hr (rarely) and often is 1hr to 1 & half hr will ask for Milk.

My mom say feed BF is watery so very fast digest one. She mention if FM BB can tong longer.

I understand but sometime he drink and 30mins he poo he wan milk liao.. is it common?

Mine if talking abt 24hr a day can poo 6-7 times..

 
ceres: my girl oso like that but she poo oni abit....comes out together w her fart lor then no choice hv to change but lucky she pees alot so still not so waste....coz she v small size so can't use nappy yet s the cover too big for her now

 
Suika: Mine poo quite often & Pee also. once pee or poo must change if not he cry until face red & frown until the forehand very white like blood clog cannot pass through.

& like what others said, when poo, a loud fart sound. My hubby always say atomic bomb lai liao.. haha.

 


Ceres,

my boy will be exactly one month old tomorrow. I latch him during the day and 2 bottles at night. So can't really tell how much he drinks when I latch him on. Some days he also wants milk every 1.5 hourly. Rarely over 3.5 hours during the day. Think it's ok coz bm has more water content so easily digested.

My boy poos either once a day or once every 2 days... My #1, whenhe was a bb, pooed few times a day. Ha, save $ spent on diapers for this one [IMG=http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/forumboard/clipart/happy.gif]

 

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