(2009/09) September 2009 MTBs


shelled
That consider alot right? If I don't remember wrongly, you latching more than 1 kid, right? Chiam... Memory failing. Haha...

For me, I pump in office 3.5hrly. Each time only 200ml and need 45mins to pump leh.

Medela Freestyle
Btw, I bought the medela freestyle. In the end, I do not like it. Not used to the suction. Anyone wants to take over? Only use like 2 times.
 
Hello mummies... guessed most mummies are returning to the workforce very soon... actually i am supposed to start work in early january too but due to some problems, i have to reject the job opportunity. On the good side is, i already gotten my keys... i am so happy that i am going to shift out in march... no need to see hear listen to rubbish... hahahaha... bad side is i gonna be super duper busier as compared to now lah.. hahahaa.. cos i have to do housework liao.. i cannot imagine myself having to do housework, look after baby, prepare school stuff, go to work, pump milk.... omg! Seemed interesting lah but i am so scared i cannot cope lor... now i am already so busy and tired... i think i am getting old liao! >.<

Enough of my complaints!

Heee...

Does most of your babies now sleep through the night??????? As in after last feed, they will wake up in the morning to drink milk? My boy machiam very hungry leh... few nights he drank for 40-80mins in total.. really drinking la... then 4 hours later he wake up and drink again leh.... initially i just pat pat him make him sleep back but he kept flipping his hands on my face leh....... till i latch him 15mins.. then he sleep again.... -.-"
 
<font color="119911">Berrypie</font>
Did you try massaging your bb's stomach? Gently massage with your palm clockwise, will help bb to poo poo.

<font color="119911">Expressing milk</font>
Gave up months ago. Ian refuses to use bottle and also reject to drink EBM so I gave up fighting with him. Direct latch also more convenient. But recently he seems to have lost weight and my boobs dun feel so 'engorge' too, wonder if my supply has drop.


<font color="119911">Rach</font>
U power! Can sling Rayanne 4-5 hours when you're out. I can't even last half an hour with the sling. Have to use the stroller. Can't wait for him to be able to walk.


<font color="119911">princessxiaomei</font>
Ian still wakes up to feed 2-3 times every night. Initially I tot maybe it's just habit so I tried pat pat him to sleep, but he simply won't fall asleep till I feed him. He really seems hungry so now I just feed when he wakes up.
 
itsy - So similar with my boy lor. I also tried to pat him... but it's really useless.. cos i think he's really HUNGRY!!!!! I'm still feeding on demand lor... i have no idea the amount of milk he drinks each time too!
 
Itsy> 4-5hrs is short trip.. Usually I go out is at least 8-10 hrs..
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waiwai,
so i'm not e only one. my son born in jun'08 n gal in sep09. How u take care of them both?

i have problem jagar both. then MIL moved in but she don want sleep wif my son, end up she sleep wif my gal and my gal don want me lor. no more latching after 7 weeks as I'm back to work. not sure how..
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">Prettymums</font>
Don't worry, too many moms here, I don't think any of us can remember everyone.
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I'm only latching #2. #1 has long forgotten how to latch.
So I've had to give him FM again, cos my daily output is not enough to feed him lah.
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If you're not using Freestyle then which pump are you using now?



<font color="ff3399">princessxiaomei</font>
If you are old, then what am I?!?! You are the last person here who is allowed to apply the word "old" to yourself ok?!

Kee has been sleeping thru the night since a mth ago. (I was right about my kids' magic mark to be at 4 mths old.)
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Nowadays, his last feed will be ard 9-10pm, latest ard 11pm. Then he will sleep until ard 9-10am.
When he wakes he will suck both my boobs dry! Which should be ard 200-250ml.
But he has a VERY bad habit. He like to wake up and pangsai ard 5-6am, then go back to sleep. If it's alot of poop, then he will grunt (softly) hoping someone will go change for him.
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<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">itsy</font>
Just out of curiosity hor, are you using wide-neck bottles?
Cos I realise with Kee, he won't take standard neck bottles, but he's more bearable towards the Pigeon wide-neck. I think the size feels more similar to the breast?
Also, maybe it's the size of the teat hole? If your BM flows fast &amp; furious from your boobs, the bottle sure cannot fight mah!


(By the way, paiseh that day you came over I was still sleeping. Wkends are my time to sleep in late! Hurhur.)
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michelle

actually i'm filling up my very small freezer too. but dunno y the milk like kena stuck??? i can feel got milk but just nvr come out! ##$%%$@@

shelled

massage meaning? i got rub rub b4 pumping if that's what u mean? or massage = heavy duty all the time even when not pumping?

prettymums

i pump abt 800-900ml. no latching.
 
princess

congrats! u can have freedom soon

er.. if ur boy was sleeping thru then suddenly need to drink in the middle of the nite, it can be growth spurt. temp only, after a while will be ok.
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">Jul</font>
Like REALLY massage. Like how the LCs do it so mercilessly.
I was wondering I wanna go TMC ParentCraft for "spring cleaning" or not. Mrs Wong said she has moms coming in every 3-6 mths for "spring cleaning" of milk ducts.
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Your pump amt is my previous before-taking-pills amt.
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I hate my hormones.

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shelled

er.. no, i din do the spring-cleaning massage. maybe i shd pop over 2moro coz gog tmc for jab.

aiyoh urs very drastic hor? drop to one-quarter ah? poor thing *pat pat*
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">Jul</font>
Ya lor, drop jialat jialat. Plus we all took turns falling sick for FOUR rounds, so that affected my SS as well.
But never mind lah, enough to feed Kee can liao. Josh is old enough anyway. Giving him BM is like additional bonus, not a must lor!
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shelled

yeah lah, basic thing is to feed keegan. anything else is a bonus.

actually, i can feed sam is a bonus to me liao!
 
Paige,

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tis the lotion very good. u use cotton ball and wipe over ur bb face.. u can see the effect next day liao.... california baby not as good as tis one seh
 
<font color="119911">Shelled</font>
Ya lor, I was thinking ur hubby and boy watching TV, u so good life, can sleep in the day. .
Ian was ok initially using Pigeon wide-neck bottle, but after a few weeks he rejected. I was using the right teats for his age leh.. maybe i should try using a bigger one. Cos hahaha you're right! My flow is fast and furious!
 
<font color="aa00aa">shelled</font>
LOL okok... maybe my body is 'old' lah... really mah.. i need to sleep a total of at least 8hours to feel fresh or else i really like humpty dumpty at night time during night feeds! YOur kids all sleep earlier than mine... wake up later than mine... -.-" middle of night when feed and change diaper... i am like a blind cow changing baby loh... my eyes cannot open one lor... Your K damn cute loh.... feel like pinch pinch! hahahaa... my sumo will have massive shit at least once a day... once in the noon once in the evening... really is massive shit lor!

NOw i still feeding once every 3-4hours and sometimes 2-3hours leh.... i keep wanting to feed once every 4-5hours with longer time each feed but cant leh... even if he drinks for 30mins, next feed will be about 3-4hours... he seemed to be 'eating' like how i 'eat' during pregnancy!

BTW why will have milk ducts when you're on total BF?

<font color="aa00aa">jul</font>
Yeah man! But initially my FIL wants us to shift in JUNE!!!!!!! when my reno can be completed by Feb... siao siao siao!

Ehh... it's like almost every night leh... can't be growth spurt liao right??? Last weigh him was 2 weeks ago.. and he weigh 7.2kg liao le... should be on average weight right?
 
Prettymum,
i think u shld ask rather daily how much can u pump rather per pump how much u pump leh.

i have test for one week, i totally pump &amp; bottle for one week. i notice per day i only can pump 1.5litres.. and its does not depend on how often u pump...

example. i can pump 5hrly or 3hrly , end up total pump per day is still 1.5litres..

am i right to say tat. or maybe i am wrong to think tat way..
 
mummies,,
can help me to see if my baby sleep habit.. wat goes wrong ah?

wake up at 830am wake up for milk
sleep back at 9am.
wake up 1130am
drink milk at 12pm
sleep at 130pm
wakeup at 2pm bath &amp; drink milk
sleep at 430pm
wake up 5pm
drik milk at6pm
sleep at 8pm
wake up at 830pm
sleep at 930pm
wake up at 1030pm.
sleep at 12am
wake up at 1am
sleep at 230am
wake up at 5am for milk &amp; sleep back
wake u at 630am milk again &amp; sleep back
wake up 830am..

have my son realy have proper sleep ah?
when he sleep he really deep sleep but not long
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">itsy</font>
Josh is generally quite independent, just need help with showering, preparing his food, and adult stuff like that. Otherwise he's quite happy to self-entertain for a few hrs everyday.
He needs his "me time" one lor.

Babies don't usually follow "by the book" one lah. Even my #1 and #2 also have very different developmental patterns. If Ian needs faster flow, then you should up the size lor. Maybe even L, if that is more similar to your BM flow. No hard and fast rule one lah.
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<font color="ff3399">princessxiaomei</font>
My boys are lazy mah!!
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It really does sound like a growth spurt. Mine just did that last week. Would wake up at 2am for a feed, for no reason.
7.2kg is damn good weight lor! My bugger losing weight (I think) cos he doesn't drink much milk nowadays cos he sleeps so much. Now alrdy 5 mths old, only 7.5kg approx. (I weigh using bathroom scale at home, so can only approx.)


<font color="ff3399">flower</font>
Wah, your bb very good leh! Eat sleep eat sleep!
How old is he now huh?
Josh was like that also, until he was about 9 mths old. As long as he's generally happy, it's ok one lah. Drink more milk, sleep more, then will grow big big mah!

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<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">flower4</font>
You're welcome. I know how it feels when your baby sleeps alot, then you wonder if baby got problem or something...
Josh also gave me the same worry. But it was my MIL who assured me that my Hubs also slept ALL THE TIME until he was almost 2 yrs old! Some kids just more sleepy/lazy than others.
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Then true enough, when Josh was turning 2, he suddenly just don't sleep so much anymore. But he still naps 3-4 hrs everyday, instead of the common 2 hours.

Generally as long as your bb is happy and responsive when he is awake, then everything is fine!
Don't worry so much, k?
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berrypie> keke. i dunno leh. juz now i smash de apple with a fork, den give bb the juice, he so excited =x but i nv feed him water yet =p

jul> aha. erms. try offing the pump in btw pumps, den massage again den start pumping again, i olways do tat n can get letdowns very quickly

ur supply is pretty ok too la. i oso get abt 850ml with 2latch on.
 
Hi mums,
I have a question about pigeon teats.
There's S, M, L and Y. I guess S, M, L is self explanatory. S being smallest hole so slow flow whereas L is the biggest hole so fastest flow. But what about Y. how does it compare with the other 3. The only thing I note is Y says leak proof but the rest don't. Sothe rest are not leak proof?
Puzzled!
 
<font color="0000ff">Kiki, Rach</font> What time waffles on tuesday? I think I will also have late brunch then have waffles for my early tea
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<font color="0000ff">Kiki</font>, ok, i sms you my number later when i check my pm
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Enjoy Bintan
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<font color="0000ff">flower4</font> THanks, thanks for the picture, oh, so its a moisturising cream. I'll go look for a small bottle to try, thanks
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Connie:
last year my MIL helped to look after #1 when i work... in the beginning of this month, i sent #1 to childcare centre, but she had high fever for 1 week, mainly due to flu bugs from my hb. then our parents comment that we send her to childcare too early, so now my MIL looks after her again and she stays with MIL during weekdays. then my mum comes to my house to look after #2.

i can still recall how tiring i was in the beginning of this month, when i started work after maternity leave, gotta send #1 to childcare centre... mad rush in the morning... looking after both kids after work. with MIL's help in looking after #1 now, i'm less stressed.

u start working liao? who else other than your MIL is helping u look after 2 kids when u go to work?
 
pigeon teats
y is used when bb start to play wif e teats. like mine will just play n let milk flow out then split. y will only flow once bb latch
 
printz n such,

tat day i heard the pigeon supplier saying to the kiddy palace staff tat L and Y is actually about the same, jus the cutting of the hole slightly diff.

i bought the Y teats, the flow is too fast for my boy, keep leaking. end up change back to S.
 
wai wai
i got a maid as i really cant jagar. 2 bb 2 dogs. so maid n mil take care of e bb
i q for e child care n hope can get it by jun. sendin no 1 as no 2 still too young. hopes no 1 wont get sick so easily.
so now ur mother do house work for u too?
 
hi sorry to interrupt here..I have the following brand new fm and organic cereal for sale as my bb stops taking them:

1. Enfapro A+ stage 2 400g
Expiry date:26 Dec 2010
Selling at $10

2. Friso Gold 2 900g
Expiry date:28 July 2010
Selling at $16

3. Earth Best Organic Whole Grain Oatmeal Cereal
Expiry date:22 July 2010
Selling at $6

All are brand new(i.e unopened). Self collect at Whampoa Drive.
Interested pls email me at [email protected]

Thanks!
 
rach &amp; paige
ok, waffles for tea sounds good too...so maybe say meet around 3.30-4pm? how's this timing for you both?
 
kam and jassie,
both of my boys do all their immunizations and checkups at the PD. i've only bought #1 to the polyclinic twice before for jaundice checks ... and somehow my impression about the polyclinics are that they employ a lot of foreign doctors (the ones i saw are fom hong kong and from myanmar) and they don't impress me with their pediatric knowledge. so i'll happily fork out the extra cash and get my boys to go to the PD at the hospital instead. at least i can comfort myself that i'm paying subsidized PD rates.

princess,
7.2kg is a very good weight. mine's only 6.5kg at his 4th month assessment yesterday.

flower4,
wah, you sat there and observed him for a 24 hour cycle? i just agar agar my boy's sleeping and drinking time. if rub eyes, i will help him get to sleep. if cry even after i've changed him, then i will offer him milk. i don't even know how many hours he sleeps a day actually.

waiwai,
so #1 is withdrawn completely from the school? or she's going back after she gets well? you have to psycho yourself (and your MIL and family members) that <u>all</u> children will fall sick when they start childcare. it's only a question of how long and how sick. have to just grit your teeth and let them go through it if you've decided upon the childcare route. no use going through it halfway, let your girl suffer then next time enroll her for school again she have to suffer the initial get sick cycle all over again. then she have to go through it twice.
 
Shelled, your boy is only 7.5kg??? He looks "muscular".

My elder one hasn't put on weight since 2 jan. Infact, he lost 0.1kg since last sat. I will bring him to pd if this continues. My babies have been on milk strike since before 2 mths and it has gotten worse. They have been drinking lesser and lesser for each feed. Now with longer sleeping hours at night, they are drinking one feed less. When they were new borns, it used to be 7-8 times a day. Then now only about 5-6 times. Sometimes, they can drink only 400ml in a day.

Mummies whose babies are sleeping through the night, what time is their last feed and first feed? Mine used to be able to drink a lot when dream feeding but recently, they also drink less and most times, will drink till wake up and throw tantrum. I am thinking of doing away with the last feed which is also dream feed (usually around 12am) because I find that it disrupts their sleep. Howevere, as it is, they are already drinking so little during the day, if I cut down one feed, how are they going to put on weight?

I am worried but don't know what else I can do.
 
shelled,my boy sleep often but not long, ya he is vry alert &amp; happy when awake...

Paige, i duno got small bottle anot.. give try. u try apply the lotion with cotton ball

sandwich.
i do tat becos my son nvr sleep thru the nite one lor.. so worry his total hrs sleep per day.

u got two kids to look after &amp; worry mah. u alredy managing very well lioa lor..
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">bbq98</font>
My boy does look big, but he just looks like a slim older baby lor. Not chubby at all. Especially if compare to Josh when he was this age, Keegan is far far behind!!

Keegan is only having 3-4 milk feeds a day only. Each time ard 150ml. It's probably the reason why he's not been putting on weight or growing, still happily fitting into M size Pampers, and strangely, the diapers seem to be getting bigger lor!
Hopefully his food intake will help him grow lah, but I seriously doubt it.

Don't think you should be too worried about weight gain or not. After all, as long as your babies have doubled their birth weight, and developmentally on track, nothing much can go wrong.
Some babies like milk, some like food, and some just have better appetite than others. Some I know don't like milk, nor food, and just like candies. They all grow up fine anyway.
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bbq,

my #1 oso on milk strike when she is around 3months old.. and she only take in more milk around 6months old.. and i understand how you feel... drink little and worry they never grow etc.. and even my pd ask me to spoon feed her, cup feeding, syringe feeding and i done it all. but she just refused to drink.. so i just let it be. as long as she is not dehydrate, i'm ok. dun stress urself... my ger have been abt 25 or only 10 pecentile growth haha and till now she still skinny and small size. But the main thing is she is happy, healthy, active. Thats the most impt thing!
 
<font color="aa00aa">milkyway</font>
LOL! Your gal really of superb good weight..! LOL! Mine haven't 4th month took 2nd dose weighed about 7.2kg so i think also around your gal's weight.. but boys usually heavier than girls.. so your girl is sumo lah! Hahahhaaaaa...

<font color="aa00aa">bb198</font>
Milk strike? What you mean by milk strike? Mine at newborn feeds about 9-10 times in every 24 hours, 2-3hourly. Then now 4months old liao... drinking at about 3-4hourly in day/4-5hourly in night...sometimes feed about 6-7 times in every 24 hours. Each night feed can last from 40-80mins and it's me who break the latch cos i'm sooooo sleepy already! >.< I am wondering if my milk not full for him or what lor.... really no idea!

<font color="aa00aa">sandwich</font>
I assume my sumo is of average weight so i never think of supplying him with formula milk at night time (FIL insist in this cos he claims i not enough milk so he always hungry). I only wants to feed him with breastmilk. But again, FIL claims that his grandson is too thin. CRAZY right!

<font color="aa00aa">shelled</font>
Hmm.. growth spurt? I will monitor to see if it's really growth spurt.. cos it has been like this for few nights.... i also hope it's growth spurt and not my milk insufficient for him... i have been latching him since birth so i think my supply should be enough for him?
 
<font color="aa00aa">michelle</font>
I think they are not comparing weight and height.. LOL! think they are concern about these issues.. LOL! Like me, i am thinking if my boy's weight is of average and if my milk is enough for him cos till now he still drinks 3-4hourly even at night despite drinking for long duration!
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">Michelle</font>
I guess when it comes to babies, mostly compare ht/wt/milestones cos that's the only way we can tell if they're growing normally mah. Cos no exam results yet!
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food shears from tinybites:
i'm thinking of getting this. any mummy from the sept thread want to share a pair? prefably a mummy from the west so that we can meet up and share the set.
http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/forumboard/messages/581296/3509621.html?1263524096

i'm currently using the combi noodle cutter (comes with a box and a spoon) for cutting up pasta and noodles for my boy. but i find that it doesn't cut up meat very well. hence, am curious to try this out.
 


princessxiaomei> lol. my boy is thin, only 6.5kg n abt 64cm at 4mths old. but he is drinking alot, n is happy. so i dun really bother how big how small etc =p

shelled> lol. grow healthy is when dey look happy, react n play with u when u play with them ma =p ya, maybe height n weigh is like exam results =x

ya, my pump really died. de motor juz on n off itself even when i set the cycle n vacuum to the max. stops like 5times itself within one pump session -_-"

heng hubby's colleague stopped breastfeeding a mth ago n uses de same pump as me. so i borrowed hers n i can actually feel tat it is stronger den my pump even first time i use it. so i think all along i've been using a ko-ya pump =x

heng she lend me hers, else i dunno how to go wk. bring my boy to wk maybe =x cos too bz cannot take leave -_-

tml is her gal's 1yr old bdae party. think i need give her gal a big pressie lo. cos her mum lend me a pump =p

sandwich> there is no pic of this food shears in the thread? but this is for bigger kids isit? not for babies right? i am still lookijng for something cheap to smash de apples. hubby nearly fainted from crushing apples with de fork last nite =x
 

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