(2008/06) June 2008

roxy,
do u put them in a lock lock container or u stuff it in a corner of your fridge? or u have a dedicated freezer for ebm??
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Hi Roooller & Fennie, thanks for sharing on the pouches over at MIM. I will probably drop by next week (Tues to Thurs) and ask them to teach me the sling thing. Mine is a deluxe sling given by my cousin. Not cotton sling... a more cooling material but I also use until sweat when I tried it. like Zuen, I see my baby in a awkward position thou he can still sleep. but also scared not good for his development.

Zuen, I also just started taking 3pills trice daily after advise fm ladies here on Fenugreek. My MS haven't increase. I will wait a few more days and see how. Right now, I am feeding baby 2 FM feeds a day... the times when after latching, he is still hungry. Samsoon, pei fu your determination! Still got goat's rue, etc to increase MS!

Btw, we were talking about menses the other day. I started to have menses yesterday lei. Tot BF won't have menses... anyone can advise what's happening? Can still continue to bf right?
 
i fold mine up then place in a normal plastic food container, once frozen, transfer to ziplock bag...anyway my collection only 50mls to 110mls...long way to go but storing up bef i go back to work..

btw, can the lock lock container be frozen?

roxy, i'll get the blue egg milk bags fr u then, how much for postage?
 
shern,
zip lock bag? thats a good idea.... then i can stack my milk bags higher.. hee hee. coz I'm now limited by the size of the lock lock. and it's quite bulky.

weekend go ntuc to buy ziplock bag. homeware got 20% discount now.... hee hee....

i guess when u buy, must see whether can freeze or not. i buy those cheapo ones from popular bookshop. not lock lock brand. those can freeze one.... maybe depends on brand.
 
<font color="aa00aa">fennie/ riz, thks for the info on the shipping. I realised i cant wear most of my bra, so must get some new bras asap.

iamsnow, if liner cant use to store EBM then not useful to us at all leh. So better check 1st.

samsoon, thanks for your explanation on the liner.
But hor, dont said like tat. Now i look like a cow to u all! haha......

roxy, so boots only in BKK. Maybe we shld do a BP when someone go there. haha....
Me now using Gerber milkbag, oso store it flat, as easier for storage.</font>
 
iamsnow n rooller
No ah, coz bb doesnt really drink alot, so i store excess EBM...n that time he was on 2 FM feeds each nite, hence had excess EBM, now going back to TBF, doubt have excess EBM to store anymore
I dun have a separate freezer to store EBM, find it too expensive. And I dun put into ziplock bags/lock n lock container too, just freeze/dump at a separate fridge compartment. Are we supposed to put them inside ziplock bags? So far, bb drank the thawed ones when i was in bkk, no LS.


hi shern
I think $1 for postage should be enough? Or do you want to collect from me at Jurong?
 
<font color="aa00aa">menses: my menses suddenly came yest in large amt, but today seems like stop liao. I think my body hormone 'sot-sot' liao. I still Bfing leh, coz i remember my gf she still continue her BFing even her menses came.

ok, going to be a cow now!</font>
 
rooller, he is 8.5wks now.. sometimes only drink 50ml per 2 hrs, now only 4.9kg
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but just brought him to see PD today, he says ok leh... haiz
 
roxy, think $1 enuf, u pm me ur acc no &amp; i'll do transfer. no need to store in ziploc bag jus tat i dun like the fridge smell so bit ks

btw any omommies got input on the 3 qns i posted?

wen u say menses u mean post-natal bleeding already stopped &amp; now it's the menses proper? my boy 5wks old liao &amp; my discharge still not clear...sian can't even do pap smear yet

if have menses still can bf
 
shern, PM you liao... pls pm me your address also and I will mail out today/tmr thanks
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1) read bout bb's fussing in the evening &amp; it's usual. my PD was saying shld be colic, i it true? Not sure what do you mean by fussing? <font color="ff0000">When Isaiah is awake, he always stretch till face very red,have grunting noise also n kicks hands n legs, PD says this is normal n all babies after 1 mth old do that...so not colic?</font>

2) anyone's bb like to extend neck as in prefer to look up &amp; wen head is on the side sleeping, also facing upwards..PD was saying his neck ok but i'm jus curious <font color="ff0000">that seems ok to me too... sometimes my bb does that too, babies are just curious</font>

3) overstimulation in the evenings will cause bb's to wake up suddenly &amp; cry super loudly...whole body stiffens up as well... <font color="ff0000">not sure about that, could it be he is having a nightmare? Isaiah sometimes suddenly cry very loudly n wake up, my mum always says "ham bing" Just pat him n reassure him n bb will go back to sleep</font>
 
iamsnow, felicia...
yes the liners can be frozen...
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and they hv been pretty durable... after using 2 boxes, oni 1 has leaked. i usu dun store my ebm in large quantities, so they hv lesser chance of leaking oso. i usu store in quantity of 50ml, oni sometimes 100ml.

here's how they look like when frozen...
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Hi Christina, yes, I'm still BF. I'm also curious why my menses come so fast. Not alot but still have. My lochia ended completely earlier this week. Yesterday start having more fresh red discharge so shld be menses. I will still continue to bf. Just want to see if any of u also like tat.

On MIM showroom, it's at 40 Jalan Pemimpin, #04-10c. Opening hrs: 11am - 4pm. (Open on Tues, Wed and Thurs). I haven't cfm when I will be gg. Depends on hubby's work schedule. When u intend to go?
 
mlp...
for some who are not on tbf or fully latching, it is common that menses will come early. i rembr when i had my #1, my menses came when bb was 3MO, i was partial bfg then cos bb was taking supplement fm.

one thing for sure i know... everytime 1-2 weeks b4 menses come, ss will drop... very sad one...
 
iamsnow...
i use clips to clip the milk bags. after they are frozen, i take out the clips and use those metal wire to tie them. the kind of wire u can use to twist and tighten loose cables and wires. can be bgt at any handy shop.

here's another pic to show the clip... see the yellow color one? ikea has such clips.

i been using tupperware and lock lock to store my ebm. but running out of them! so now i use big ziploc bags to store the packets of ebm after they hv been freezed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bebechic/BM-10jul-2.jpg
 
roooller...
i had to freeze cos my gal was drinking much less than wat i pumped. nowadays i cant store as much already, cos she is drinking almost the same amt as what i am pumping.
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i used to be able to store abt 200ml a day imagine... now no more such luxury...

anyway now every few days i will take out the oldest frozen ebm and let her drink and i store the latest bm i pump, so that i maintain the same amt of frozen ebm. tis is to ensure that i will hv enuf ebm when i go back to work too.
 
soyabean,

your freezer quite big hor. hee hee.... my freezer a bit small. so must find the most efficient way to keep my precious ebm. hee hee.... wah, u can store 200ml a day ar. so good... so much surplus.

my ms very imbalance. now one side pump 100ml, the other side pump 30ml. aiyo.... i scared wait dry up!!!
 
Jenny
How do u want to provide ur bank a/c to us? Post here? Cause want to close the nursing tea spree as 2molo wkend most mommies dont cum online, will giv them time to tt so tat u can order Ameda &amp; the tea 2gether.

shern
yes, both spree done by Jenny. So u can collect/mail both 2gether save time &amp; cost ya..
1)if bb cried very loud(louder then usual) it cld be colic. U need to more or less study how thy cry. Mine is soft cry then loud cry wif mouth moving=milk milk. Medium cry=bored/diaper change. Loud cry=colic/stomach wind
2)mine bb also turn her head while sleeping like super model posing for shoot.
3)old folk tale but i believe also. Once a while i will bath her in the evening for better sleep but must be a fast one.

roxy
we want to do a BP on ur milk milk... kekeke

mylittleprince
2day my avg EBM went frm 130ml to 160ml. Morning frm 160ml to 230ml. Maybe fenugreek + more water is finally working? Its my 7th day taking, still on 3pills.

Felicia
I also hope to be a cow... kekeke
Playtex liner can store EBM...
 
iamsnow...
my freezer not v big... hehe... cos i dun cook so freezer no other things, so look big. used to be able to store 200ml... now no more. i hope i dun hv to start taking fenugreek...
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samsoon...
jia you... looks like fenugreek plus water is working for u...
 
iamsnow...
forgot to mention. try to pump slightly longer on the lower side. it will help to increase abit, but not nec be the same amt as the other side.
 
Veniz,

Thanks for inviting
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My last day of confinement is on 27/7. Think can't make it, you guys just go ahead and enjoy. Will join other gathering next time
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Ellysia,

The old folks very funny one, my BB already crying desperately for milk, somemore my MIL still ask her daughter to go get water and want to feed my BB water first. I got so angry and rush out of my room (half way pumping) and ask them to just feed my BB EBM since she was so hungry already. Then, my useless hubby show me black face for the whole night. Because whatever his old folks say is sure right one.
Next time, I am also going to use this :DOCTOR SAY NO NEED TO FEED WATER!!!!
 
Hi Christina, the place is near Bishan. I let u know when I confirm when i'm gg...

Hi Samsoon, WOAH! Congrats! I also hope I can JIA NAI after taking the fenugreek. hehe... so far today is my 2nd day of 3pills trice. So u don latch ur bb? Feed bb with EBM?

Huggy, YES, the edict of "Doc says..." is very useful when talking to old folks. then they will really listen.
 
huggy
Very often, elderly will say
'last time tis is how i raise up u/ur hubby'.
Then we can tell them
'doc say nowaday our water are diff frm last time, got case of infant death, its report on TV last mth, u dont knw meh"
 
Hey Soyabean, No wonder. Me on partial BF... gotta supplement with FM. alamak, supply already not enuf liao still will drop before menses? *faint* but I latch bb on. so can't see when ss will drop. SIANZ man... find pad changing so ma-fan after no menses for so long. hee....
 
<font color="aa00aa">soyabean, the playtex liner dont had those zip seal? Can we store in flat? Coz it seem very bulky and take up lot of space leh. My freezer had no more space of my EBM liao.
Now my ger drink about 80ml, so everytime we just let her had 100ml, coz most of my EBM was keep at 100-120ml.Everytime will throw about 20ml, seems wasted but no choice oso.

samsoon, jia you! Soon going to be a very productive cow liao. haha.....</font>
 
samsoon,

CONGRATS!!! 230ml.... wah.... i think i only once managed to hit that. it was the 1st pump in the morning...

u taking fenugreek for 2nd day and the ms become so good? hm... how many u taking? 3 pills x 3 times a day?
 
mylittleprnce
Very seldom latch cos wan to observe how much bb drink &amp; also hows my supply.. Yes JiaNai!! But hor i still standby FM just incase... hehe
 
Felicia
Yeah.. i dreamt to be a moo moo... keke

iamsnow
No lah i oledi took 7day at 3pills 3x daily. Hope to maintain, dun 'scar lee' 2molo drop bk haha..
 
<font color="aa00aa">MLP/ Soyabean, i was TBF, but my menses still came leh. After delivery, my menses (lochia) came for almost more than a week before it was gone. Then i was 'clean clean' for for few days before i see 'red' again. Then it stopped for days, but yest suddenly it came again in large amt. I had to sit in toilet bowl for sometimes to let it flow. But today it seems like stop liao. I oso not sure wat went wrong.
I'll call my gynae if this happen again.</font>
 
Roooller,

I didn't get your reply. Anyway, I am going to buy from you, just let me know how much to transfer to you and your bank a/c. Will pay you the postage fee after you have posted can?
Will pm you my mailing address.
 
Felicia,

I think that is not menses, but the lochia that was not fully flush out. 1 week is too short to clean all dirty blood in the womb.

Now about 3 weeks liao, my still not 100% clean ler, still have some light brown or yellowish discharge. I think my CL at least got some good thing, she is good with tonic soup and chinese herbs, so every night she will prepare one type tonic soup for supper for me to clear blood clots, dirty blood, wind and etc
 
felicia...
no... the playtex doesnt come with zip lock. cant reali store it flat... but it oso depends on how u place the bag when u 1st put in the freezer... if place upright and squeeze abit with other bags, can be flatter.

wat u can do wif ur 20ml is u keep in chiller fridge... when next pump u hv another 20ml, u can then store 40ml. but dating of the ebm will be using the earlier 20ml.

ur menses doesnt sound normal... good to check with ur gynae...
 
I am so sad, my BB dunno how to latch on, she keeps biting my nipple and use her tongue to push until only nipple was left in her mouth. Because of this, I have sore nipple for almost 10 days.
So now use Ameda to pump exclusively, but also very painful. I can get average about 240ml each pump. My BB is drinking about 110ml every 3hrs. She is just 3 weeks old and she is 5kg already.

Use to woke up twice at night to pump, but very tiring, feel like dying, so now only wake up once. Just have to endure the pain of engorged breast. In the morning, can get up to 280ml to 290ml.

Funny thing is, I do not drink enough water, not enough sleep also, but still can maintain supply. Maybe my CL's cook really help my supply a lot and also her tonic soup. She cook "Pork Leg Vinegar" very nice and she told me that drinking the soup of it will create a lot of BM, maybe it is true.
 
<font color="aa00aa">huggy, during my #1, my lochia only fully clear when almost a mth. This round so fast, i oso bit surprised. Maybe like wat u said, mine is not fully flush out, tats why on and off had the menses like flowing out.

soyabean, normally we just throw away the 20ml as it had been 'touch' by baby saliva. If only keep 80ml then storage wise seems bit waste oso.</font>
 


<font color="aa00aa">Huggy, u r a cow oso! hehe.....
Pig trotter's vinegar will help to increase BM? But i cannot stand the vinegar smell, too strong for me.
U can bear the engorgement pain? Me cannot leh, sure will woke up by the pain if i fail to pump after 4 hrs. So far my highest record only 260ml.

I always feel thirsty but can only drink red dates +longan. Sometimes wondering if this drink make me feel more thirsty.</font>
 

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