(2008/06) June 2008
- Thread starter avoros
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Hmm... I think there's some confusion about the DS tests. Maybe this link will help clarify issues.
http://www.kkh.com.sg/SharedCMS/Templates/Singhealth%20Generic%20Template.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fPatientHealthLibrary%2fWomensHealth%2fFirst%2bTrimester%2bScreening%2f&NRNODEGUID=%7b727896BF-19C4-425B-898D-B6F519D98A5E%7d&NRCACHEHINT=Guest#premier
SUMMARY POINTS
Ultrasound scan of nuchal translucency (NT) at 11-14 weeks is the single most accurate test for the screening of Down Syndrome.
The packages are :
Package
Tests
Detection Rate
Results available on
Price
A
Ultrasound scan at 11-14 weeks
80-85%
Day of scan $157.50
B
Ultrasound scan at 11-14 weeks
Blood test at 11-14 weeks
90%
2 working days after blood test $315.00
C
Ultrasound scan at 11-14 weeks
Blood test at 15-20 weeks
90%
2 working days after blood test $245.40
Note :
The blood test in Package B measures PAPP-A and free beta-hCG. The blood test in Package C measures alpha fetoprotein and beta-hCG.
http://www.kkh.com.sg/SharedCMS/Templates/Singhealth%20Generic%20Template.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fPatientHealthLibrary%2fWomensHealth%2fFirst%2bTrimester%2bScreening%2f&NRNODEGUID=%7b727896BF-19C4-425B-898D-B6F519D98A5E%7d&NRCACHEHINT=Guest#premier
SUMMARY POINTS
Ultrasound scan of nuchal translucency (NT) at 11-14 weeks is the single most accurate test for the screening of Down Syndrome.
The packages are :
Package
Tests
Detection Rate
Results available on
Price
A
Ultrasound scan at 11-14 weeks
80-85%
Day of scan $157.50
B
Ultrasound scan at 11-14 weeks
Blood test at 11-14 weeks
90%
2 working days after blood test $315.00
C
Ultrasound scan at 11-14 weeks
Blood test at 15-20 weeks
90%
2 working days after blood test $245.40
Note :
The blood test in Package B measures PAPP-A and free beta-hCG. The blood test in Package C measures alpha fetoprotein and beta-hCG.
So I think there are 3 DS tests which we can opt for.
(1) NT scan at 11 to 14 weeks (KK charges about $150 for this)
(2) NT scan PLUS blood test at 11 to 14 weeks (KK charges about $300 for this)
(3) NT scan at 11 to 14 weeks, blood test at 15 to 20 weeks (KK charges about $250 for this).
I think (2) is called the OSCAR or Combined test.
(1) NT scan at 11 to 14 weeks (KK charges about $150 for this)
(2) NT scan PLUS blood test at 11 to 14 weeks (KK charges about $300 for this)
(3) NT scan at 11 to 14 weeks, blood test at 15 to 20 weeks (KK charges about $250 for this).
I think (2) is called the OSCAR or Combined test.
I think these are the different tests which the restructered hospitals offer MTBs. Not all hospitals/labs/doctors may offer all 3. Also, package C may be the least popular cos essentially, it is as accurate as (B), but need to wait for a bit before doing the blood test. I don't think most women would be prepared waiting to know the results of the test. Most pple will just go for Package A or B. If we think we are low risk (from age alone, accuracy is 30%), we can just choose Package A first. If scan is not desirable, then just add on the blood test (making it package B).
I asked my friend who is a dr (not specialist) - she says that although if age 35 and above then the risk of having DS bb is much higher, lots of obgyn will screen all their patients regardless of age. this is cos altho risk is higher if >35 yrs old, there are more women in the < 35 age group who are pregnant. hence it makes sense to screen all regardless of age
ellysia
Active Member
I read on forum that the Oscar test give a lot of false results cos it is more on the safe side, giving people anxiety bec' they gotta wait for 1mth to take another test for 100% accuracy results.
My LS is really bad, i hope is not food poisoning. Gone to toilet 4 times ored
My LS is really bad, i hope is not food poisoning. Gone to toilet 4 times ored
teragram
Active Member
Take care, Ellysia. Remember to drink lots of fluid as LS can lead to dehydration. Did your company doc give you mc for the day? Try to go back early and rest.
Cactus/Kylene,
Thanks for the info on the NT scan/DS test. I will be going for OSCAR on 5th Dec. Kylene, I realised we have the same EDD. You going for your test on 4th Dec ya?
Cactus/Kylene,
Thanks for the info on the NT scan/DS test. I will be going for OSCAR on 5th Dec. Kylene, I realised we have the same EDD. You going for your test on 4th Dec ya?
linda_thea
New Member
hi Ellysia
How much is ZTP selling for one bott of concentrate?
iamsnow,
Could be the longan you gotten. I normally put abt 5-6 longan, same amt of red dates without the seeds into metal container and pour boiling water inside, cover, then ready to drink after it had cooled. No need to boil. But taste preference differs from person to person.
How much is ZTP selling for one bott of concentrate?
iamsnow,
Could be the longan you gotten. I normally put abt 5-6 longan, same amt of red dates without the seeds into metal container and pour boiling water inside, cover, then ready to drink after it had cooled. No need to boil. But taste preference differs from person to person.
ellysia
Active Member
Hi Teragram,
I have ored max my MC for this year and thus i didn't take any MC.
Really v jiat lat this year, max my MC cos i done eye operation, then take out wisdom tooth, plus now easily sick.
Company policy is if no MC, have to take leave. As i have ored take leave for travel, if i need to take MC i have to cancel my leave (i.e. my trip).
So if really food poisoning i dunno how. Cos feel wanna vomit but everyday ored nausea how to tell? Stomach a bit pain here and there but everyday stomach also not comfortable due to air, so again confused messages.
I just hope it won't affect tmr test then i can at least rest tmr at home after test, and hopefully everything is ok.
I have ored max my MC for this year and thus i didn't take any MC.
Really v jiat lat this year, max my MC cos i done eye operation, then take out wisdom tooth, plus now easily sick.
Company policy is if no MC, have to take leave. As i have ored take leave for travel, if i need to take MC i have to cancel my leave (i.e. my trip).
So if really food poisoning i dunno how. Cos feel wanna vomit but everyday ored nausea how to tell? Stomach a bit pain here and there but everyday stomach also not comfortable due to air, so again confused messages.
I just hope it won't affect tmr test then i can at least rest tmr at home after test, and hopefully everything is ok.
ellysia
Active Member
cactus,
doc got give me salt (dissolve and drink). Maybe i take that later.
Linda,
I dunno how much, didnt ask the person.
I may only buy at January cos i still have those normal bottled ones at home.
Anyway bb will absorb the most frm week 20 onwards, frm wat i know.
babycupid,
ya lor, if u see the thread on Oscar u will see how people grumbling. Then the "chou yan shui" test will have some risk in MC mah. Maybe this test is trying to avoid the risk, cos if take and is ok then no need to take any more test mah.
doc got give me salt (dissolve and drink). Maybe i take that later.
Linda,
I dunno how much, didnt ask the person.
I may only buy at January cos i still have those normal bottled ones at home.
Anyway bb will absorb the most frm week 20 onwards, frm wat i know.
babycupid,
ya lor, if u see the thread on Oscar u will see how people grumbling. Then the "chou yan shui" test will have some risk in MC mah. Maybe this test is trying to avoid the risk, cos if take and is ok then no need to take any more test mah.
teragram
Active Member
aiyo Ellysia,
my heart goes out to you. cos i ever got food poisoning before and it's horrible.
ok, rem to take the medicine doc give and take more fluid in the meantime. one alternative is to drink the isotonic drink H20, good for replenishing salt i think. then go back on the dot later (hopefully u can la). and rest well tonite. ya, it's tough to differentiate the food poisoning and MS now. hang in there!
my heart goes out to you. cos i ever got food poisoning before and it's horrible.
ok, rem to take the medicine doc give and take more fluid in the meantime. one alternative is to drink the isotonic drink H20, good for replenishing salt i think. then go back on the dot later (hopefully u can la). and rest well tonite. ya, it's tough to differentiate the food poisoning and MS now. hang in there!
ellysia
Active Member
It is tough to differentiate any sickness now! Even fever, also hard to differentiate. Doc keep saying v hard to tell, so dun want to give fever medicine even though i feel feverish.
If mild fever i prefer to sleep on bed then let it sweat out, much better than eating medicine.
I took u all advice, i take the salt now. Seems better leh dun feel vomit leh, maybe is MS hor.
If mild fever i prefer to sleep on bed then let it sweat out, much better than eating medicine.
I took u all advice, i take the salt now. Seems better leh dun feel vomit leh, maybe is MS hor.
linda_thea
New Member
Hi catcus/ Ellysia
Wow, so if buy 4 free 1, then one bott less than $60. Quite ok mah, no need cook somemore. I dun mind eating now, hahaha... vain pot me wanna look nice mah, esp when I normally dun eat when not pregnant. An excuse to indulge myself.
hi Ellysia
Take care... Now we feel sick more easily also cos our body very easily tired. Now I have flu every other day lor. Very sian to have blocked nose.
hi Ellysia
Take care... Now we feel sick more easily also cos our body very easily tired. Now I have flu every other day lor. Very sian to have blocked nose.
teragram
Active Member
kylene,
actually, i am a little confused about my EDD cos in my 6th week, the gynae told me it's 15 June 08. then on my 8th week visit, i realised that she had referenced the EDD on my ultrasound scan which states 12 June 08. Will check with her the next time i see her which date it should be.
don't worry too much, believe things will be ok.
do keep us posted. but the 2-week wait is quite long huh, sigh. I was pretty tempted to bring my next apptm forward. hee!
actually, i am a little confused about my EDD cos in my 6th week, the gynae told me it's 15 June 08. then on my 8th week visit, i realised that she had referenced the EDD on my ultrasound scan which states 12 June 08. Will check with her the next time i see her which date it should be.
don't worry too much, believe things will be ok.
linda_thea
New Member
Hi telegram
EDD during 1st trimester is calculated on our LMP (last menstrual period). However, conception takes place after ovulation which we are not able to pintpoint exactly when. Hence, EDD is usually not confirmed during 1st trimester and is subjected to changes measured by baby size. Normally after 2nd trimester will have no more changes liao.
Hi catcus
Well, pregnancies are getting more 'troublesome' and slightly 'unreasonable' in our generations IMO. Or maybe we are having too many types of chemicals in our daily living products & produce.
Like in older generations, got fish eat very good lo, now people still cannot eat deep sea fish. My mum's time got bird nest eat laugh until mad lo, still scare this and that. very diff lah.
Up to personal belief, I still continue to use my daily products, eat my daily produce except those I find irritating now tt my sense of smell changed. Moderation and happiness ARE the key words. Happy mummy = happy baby!
hi ellysia
Yah!!! tell me abt it!! I looked like AUNTIE now lor. Keep complaining to my hubby regarding it esp when yesterday he commented I look "bloated" everywhere.
Kekeke... now I can eat I very happy lor. I think able to eat is a fortune...esp when MS hits. Never mind, pregnancy is an excuse to be fat, after delivery then diet bah!
take care of baby yourself, sure slim down fast!
EDD during 1st trimester is calculated on our LMP (last menstrual period). However, conception takes place after ovulation which we are not able to pintpoint exactly when. Hence, EDD is usually not confirmed during 1st trimester and is subjected to changes measured by baby size. Normally after 2nd trimester will have no more changes liao.
Hi catcus
Well, pregnancies are getting more 'troublesome' and slightly 'unreasonable' in our generations IMO. Or maybe we are having too many types of chemicals in our daily living products & produce.
Like in older generations, got fish eat very good lo, now people still cannot eat deep sea fish. My mum's time got bird nest eat laugh until mad lo, still scare this and that. very diff lah.
Up to personal belief, I still continue to use my daily products, eat my daily produce except those I find irritating now tt my sense of smell changed. Moderation and happiness ARE the key words. Happy mummy = happy baby!
hi ellysia
Yah!!! tell me abt it!! I looked like AUNTIE now lor. Keep complaining to my hubby regarding it esp when yesterday he commented I look "bloated" everywhere.
Kekeke... now I can eat I very happy lor. I think able to eat is a fortune...esp when MS hits. Never mind, pregnancy is an excuse to be fat, after delivery then diet bah!
ellysia
Active Member
cactus,
Birdnest not cleaned properly, maybe is referring to those feathers? I know if feathers or any feather components is the one who may cause allegy.
Eu Ren Sheng told me actually nowadays those birdnest sold are all cleaned properly, so actually not v hard to cook too.
Birdnest not cleaned properly, maybe is referring to those feathers? I know if feathers or any feather components is the one who may cause allegy.
Eu Ren Sheng told me actually nowadays those birdnest sold are all cleaned properly, so actually not v hard to cook too.
Ellysia,
Hmm.. i still find it hard to believe that feathers or feather components cause allergy or asthma loh.... I thought allergy or asthma is caused by an over reactive immune/self defence system of our bodies. Perhaps the TCM reasoning for allergies and asthma is different from western medicine .... 4 of my aunties and my mom took bird's nest throughout their pregnancy. Only 2 out of 13 children have allergies/asthma. That is below national average, I believe. Further, one of my uncles have asthma so it could be an inherited thing and not a feathers thing. Then again, if we hear of something, it's better tobelieve if it doesn't cause us too much inconvenience hor. For me, I can't give up bird's nest... I'm quite a glutton.
Yes, these days bird's nest is better cleaned.
espeically those sold in the box are better than those sold in loose form.
Hmm.. i still find it hard to believe that feathers or feather components cause allergy or asthma loh.... I thought allergy or asthma is caused by an over reactive immune/self defence system of our bodies. Perhaps the TCM reasoning for allergies and asthma is different from western medicine .... 4 of my aunties and my mom took bird's nest throughout their pregnancy. Only 2 out of 13 children have allergies/asthma. That is below national average, I believe. Further, one of my uncles have asthma so it could be an inherited thing and not a feathers thing. Then again, if we hear of something, it's better tobelieve if it doesn't cause us too much inconvenience hor. For me, I can't give up bird's nest... I'm quite a glutton.
Yes, these days bird's nest is better cleaned.
teragram
Active Member
Linda,
Thanks for the clarification on my EDD. I guess it won't be fixed till my 2nd trim then.
Like you, I also v happy when I can eat now. I still rem I was super satisfied with the Ya Kun kaya toast and teh-c I had last week. Cos that was one of the rare times I actually enjoyed the food. Hehe.
Cactus,
5 more min to you knocking off. I can only go off at 7pm. Then again, I started work late, at 10am.
Thanks for the clarification on my EDD. I guess it won't be fixed till my 2nd trim then.
Cactus,
5 more min to you knocking off. I can only go off at 7pm. Then again, I started work late, at 10am.
ellysia
Active Member
cactus,
Yup i also won't give up drinking bird nest. Anyway it is nice tasting.
Just tat again, take our gynae advice - to take in moderation.
I think through and finally realise tat the reason for my LS is bec i forget to wash the red dates & longan when i use it to brew drink on sat evening! No wonder been having LS since sunday.
Yup i also won't give up drinking bird nest. Anyway it is nice tasting.
Just tat again, take our gynae advice - to take in moderation.
I think through and finally realise tat the reason for my LS is bec i forget to wash the red dates & longan when i use it to brew drink on sat evening! No wonder been having LS since sunday.
Teragram - I officially start work at 9am.. but informally start work at 815am....
Ellysia - ai yoh!!! You need to wash and soak the red dates before you cook lah! Poor thing! LS since sunday. Next time must be more careful k?
I'm leaving office liao. catch up with you ladies tomorrow!
Ellysia - ai yoh!!! You need to wash and soak the red dates before you cook lah! Poor thing! LS since sunday. Next time must be more careful k?
I'm leaving office liao. catch up with you ladies tomorrow!
linda_thea
New Member
hi teragram
yeah! Now that you mentioned Ya Kun Kaya... aiyoh the thot of crispy bread in my mouth... yummy.
Into dry stuff these days like fried bee hoon, fried chicken, toast etc... My MS is such these days tt I can eat breakfast and lunch but not dinner.
I also knock off at 7pm. Where do you work?
Hi ellysia
Aiyoh!!! Pregnancy does make one more blur... Do be careful next time yah?
yeah! Now that you mentioned Ya Kun Kaya... aiyoh the thot of crispy bread in my mouth... yummy.
I also knock off at 7pm. Where do you work?
Hi ellysia
Aiyoh!!! Pregnancy does make one more blur... Do be careful next time yah?
teragram
Active Member
Linda,
haha, oh yes, the crispy bread was yummilicious!
that nite i had it, i was actually going to get a jollybean soya milk but Ya Kun which was just next door was too tempting so told my DH "eh, let's have ya kun instead la"..hehe.
I work in millenia tower, near to suntec/marina sq area. Oh, u knock off at 7pm too?
Whereabout is your office?
Ellysia,
Pregant woman tends to be more forgetful. Must rem to wash the next round hor?
haha, oh yes, the crispy bread was yummilicious!
I work in millenia tower, near to suntec/marina sq area. Oh, u knock off at 7pm too?
Ellysia,
Pregant woman tends to be more forgetful. Must rem to wash the next round hor?
linda_thea
New Member
Hi teragram
I thot offices in that area normally work till 6pm one? kekeke... Me in kampung ulu industrial park lor... that's why the working hours so funny... kekeke
Ya kun bread...have to wait till weekend lor, then I go Causeway Point to eat... Hey! Can I tempt you with McDonalds milkshake? ahahaha
Yummy!
hi Kylene
That's ok too... sometimes baby smaller leh? Anyway, wont know till later. Also, most women dun deliver on their EDDs lor. 
I thot offices in that area normally work till 6pm one? kekeke... Me in kampung ulu industrial park lor... that's why the working hours so funny... kekeke
Ya kun bread...have to wait till weekend lor, then I go Causeway Point to eat... Hey! Can I tempt you with McDonalds milkshake? ahahaha
hi Kylene
