TOA PAYOH mummies

re playpen/play yard

i happen to see tis is WTS.

http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/forumboard/messages/449183/3128650.html?1255972485

jfoo.. wun be joining you all. am going bintan on wed. there is also a playground at 99 area, with benches at the playground, near a basketball court also? or if u can leave your children alone, you can sit under the void deck to get out of the sun. there usually not very sunny cos its surrounded by the tall blocks, but think also depending on weather ba.
 


Are & J_foo,
Thanks for the info. I'll probably mk a trip down again this weekend.
Are - does the lamb chop has a strong taste of yang2 shao1 wei4?

J_foo - Yeap, Blk 97 Playground is near the baskeball court. There r benches available at the playground. I like to bring my gal there on Sunday morning coz if she's tired of this playground, there's always an alternate one infront of the PCF facing the road.
The owner of Baba King, Philip is a very pple orientated person. He used to be a highflyer in a coy but quit to set-up his own eaterie biz.

Last weekend went to Lor. 5 Hawker to 'tabao' the famous fishball noodles and also went to chk out the Sensory playground its nice but no shelter thou, good to go there in the evening or early morning.

Mummies, we can also arrange another playdate on of the weekdays nxt wk in the evening say 6.30pm? Anyone keen?
 
Hi mummies,
been really busy, not able to log in.
jfoo, I should be able to come also on Friday, either 4.30pm or 5pm coz the girls have a dental appt that afternoon.

Sam, regarding piano classes for kids, I agree with jfoo. For music, we can expose the child to music as early as possible through listening to various types of music, singing etc. For a child to start learning the piano, it really depends. There are many classes now for kids, but those with piano/keyboard generally start at 3 yrs.These are usually group classes, as kids at this age learn a lot through play. It is pointless to have individual class for a child that young unless the child have an aptitude for it.Not to mention, kids remember many things through play, touch and feel.
Its also about teaching discipline and focus for children. Some kids focus better than others, and they tend to be at an advantage.

I don't know about you jfoo. I notice, now , many parents want kids to do grade 1 piano exam at Pri 1 level.Personally, I feel that only some kids can do that, not all. Well, if you start the child say about 5 yrs old or slightly a little later, maybe possible.But then too much focus on exams can kill the interest on music.Its really being able to balance and communicate with parents well who are overly anxious.

Bottomline, it depends on the child as well as the teacher. I use to start kids as young as 4 yrs, or 5 yrs for individuals.(Few years back,my mum and I used to teach gp classes to 3 and 3.5 yrs old).I use to have a few young students, and each student is different. When their learning styles are different, you need to approach the lessons in a way that will fit their learning curve and not the other way round. Here, the child may benefit from 1-1 lessons.

Lessons need to be fun, at the same time,they are learning about piano playing and music progressively. As parents, we can help by introducing the world of music to them.By bringing the children,to attend concerts.Expose them to lotsa classical music,etc. In fact, for both my children, especially when they were infants, I play classical music of all sorts for them, when they sleep or awake. Unless the TV is on, most of the time, I will expose them to classicals. Hopefully, they will develop an interest and not reject "this kind" of music right from the beginning.
OK, I think I've written too much. I'm so long winded.
 
babe,

in the morning, basically is send the kids to school. 545am gotta wake eldest son up, sent him down for school bus, back home ard 630am, eat bfast n read newspaper for half hour then gotta wake gal up for school, she take school bus to kindy too, then would be ard 8am whereby i get the lil one ready for his school too.
i used to bring my piggy to GUG at United Square but he is to clingy to me, so i changed him to a montessori school at whampoa. when he at school, i will be home doing housework and prepare for lunch. gal and piggy will be home by 12, so settle them for lunch/bath, then boy will be back too.
afternoon is pretty much homework for the 2 eldest and nap for piggy.
i do not cook for dinner as piggy is always sticking on to me, and also i'd been breastfeeding him. recently, i wean him off the afternoon feed so that i can be free to guide the big ones and probably do some cooking too.
i had been ordering tingkat.
 
dor... in my opinion, i dun think the lamb shank got smell. the meat is will fall off the bone kind, bagus! hehe..

jfoo... think we toking abt the same playgrd. 2day i walk past then realise 97/96 is the other side. ha!
 
ARE,
thats a nice one play yard/play pen. I wonder where to get? I ask the person if she is selling. But i tot see how much is a new one.

Anyone know where to get a lindam easy fit playpen
 
thanks to both JFoo and Kin, for your opinion on learning piano. SOrry to JFoo, I forgot to thank you earlier. I had been thinking about your comments since u responded to my questions and had asked around for other parents' opinion.
Even though he’s still too young, I thought since I happened to ‘bump’ into two professional piano teachers, I should grab the opportunity to ask!

Like JFoo said – depend on individual, personality and maturity. Er… how do I decide? Or I bring to the piano teacher and she/he decides if my kid is ‘old’ enough to learn? What about ‘cultivating an interest in music’? what does it mean?

Since birth, we let him exposed to music that we like (Papa likes English pop, Mummy likes classical music, instrumental music, English oldies and Mandarin/Korean/Japanses pop) and the good old radio. He ‘sleeps’ with instrumental/classical music since birth. Initially, it was more of I wanted him to get used to a noisy environment so that if there was a sudden loud thud, he would not be startled. The ccc he’s attending also does that – they play music during nap time.

He seems to enjoy music (or so I hope! Haha!) – he moved his arms before he was able to sit up, he ‘danced’ when he was able to stand, now as an established walker/runner, he could dance in coordinated moves). He ‘sings’ too. He remembered the lyrics of Wheels of the Bus and Happy Birthday quite well and could verbalise them. But he didn’t handled the different notes well la. E.g. while the lyrics are all the same, the first sentence in Happy Birthday song and the second sounds different. But he would sing all 4 the same.

I had also ‘introduced’ toy piano to him by trying to play some of the pieces that he’s familiar with. But I novice la, can only 1 finger dang dang dang only. One piece that I always do for him it’s this: (dunno the title but here’s the notes) do do mi so so so so mi mi.

I had always wanted to learn piano (like any other little girls) but my parents could not afford it. Hence, I really hope to give my child an opportunity that I didn’t have in the past. If he’s not interested, then I would not force him. But I am not sure how to get him started. I believe that initiating a kid into something (e.g. to love reading) needs a good and smooth kick start. If I didn’t do it correctly, I might scare him off for good.
 
Ivy,

I think that play yard is available at Toys R Us (this brand sells in Toys R Us). But really, this one can wait till your baby about 6 mths then decide.
 
kin, I would say... no choice lah, we r responsible for their well being until they r grown up.

orangeymum, it's above the new NTUC, named Maris Kidz Montessori. They accept kids from 18mths onwards, which is why I send my piggy there. Can't find any that take in such young toddler except childcare. Also, my gal attended the school when she was 2.5yo too. I like their teaching of phonics, my gal can read at age of 3 which was a great diff from my eldest. However, there r some changes of teaching staff and I would say they r not as good now but i think for a start it's fine. The school do not teach proper chinese too, that's the reason why I pulled my gal out when she's in nursery.

ivy, if i add on the schedule of enrichments and tuition, think u will be scared... hahaha. It's really not easy to handle schedule for 3 kids, and i need to plan the schedule that is feasible even when hubby not in town... luckily i'm a professional project manager... hahaha.
 
Samantha,
ya i tot only when baby older, bring her shopping! But if the person selling at forum really cheap then i might get it now.

Sue,
u are a SAHM now?? I really really salute u...
 
Hi Sam,
Let me clarify, when I say its pointless to start individual lessons. I'm referring to parents who send their 3-4 yrs old to individual piano lessons.I'm not saying parents are wasting their money sending kids to individual piano lessons. (which are the most 30 mins for this age) ACtually, you can always start them with group classes when they are youngm where they can enjoy and grow to love music, and when they reach an age where their fingers are stronger say 4.5 - 5 yrs, then they may be more ready to start learning the piano. Many schools teach keyboard in groups, and yah, there are a few that attend booster classes, like jfoo's.So no harm starting them young. Do try to get recommendations when it comes to piano teachers , coz its good to have a correct start when picking up piano!!! Jfoo, anything to add??
 
Side track a bit hehe, after delivery, u all use any good firming cream to remove the loosen skin around our tummy?? Do recommend...!!!
 
btw ladies, if anyone is keen to get Angels Baby Wet Wipes or Gain IQ 900g, let me know.

"Usual SMH.com price" for Gain IQ 900g $25/tin (exp 2012) and for Angels Wet wipe is less than $5 per bundle (3 x 80pc/pack)
 
ivy,
my view, firming cream does not remove the loosen/xtra skin ard the tummy area it all depends on individual. worst scenario need ops to remove.
 
yeah ivy, i'm SAHM.

haha, after 1st birth, I did all sorts of thing, wrap or whatever. after 2nd, went for slimming center too. now after 3rd, really cannot see liao!
 
Dor,
my poor sis who had 3 C-section. And her 1st 2 babies are really big!! 4.13 kg for 1st, and about 4 kg for 2nd. She had a big lump of skin now and she is so sad.
 
Hi Sue,

What do you mean by "really cannot see liao"? As in you are so busy with your kids that you slim naturally?

Ivy,

Your sis's case - that big lump of skin is DUE TO c-sec????? Is it? Like that wan ar - c-sec will end up having a lump of skin?!
 
ivy,
wow, her boys r big. understand how she feels....one of my gf also has the same prob she showed us her tummy and we tld her is either she go for ops or live wif it. another of my gf's sis after giving birth to 3 (all bf) her bosoms were almost 'flat'. she was quit depreesed and went to one of the beau ctr to get them fix.
After hearing that i massage mine almost every time after a shower.
 
Samantha,
her lump of skin is not due to C-sec. Its due to baby very big and also they are conceive too close. So i think her tummy dun get to rest the skin keep getting stretch.

Dor,
1st is boy, 2nd is girl, the girl is now very tall for her age. So when her 3rd boy came out 3 plus kg, she keep asking why so small -.-

Dor,
Ur gf boobs flat becos of breast feeding???
 
Samantha,
the xtra skin is perhaps due to tummy stretch after birth.
another of my gf after giving birth her tummy still looks like 5mths preggy. her's is quite serious coz the muscle tore and was unable to contract, she'll be going for an ops soon nxt month. We were kidding wif her to ask her surgent to give her a flat tummy with 4 abs muscles.
 
ivy,
tat am not sure is my gf sis and tat's wat she says. further to that hers is not big in the 1st plc but has a lot of bf thou.
undstd regular massage does helps to firm up.
 
abutthen....these r scarifies one has to make. but then again nothing can replace the happiness and fulfillments of witnessing the process of your child growth.
 
haiz... sad.

Thanks for the explanation, Ivy and Dor.

DOr ah, why after birth tummy still stretch ar?*scratch head*

Frankly, I also very surprised when I heard Dor saying breasts went flat. I was like WTF?! I only heard of sagging or become bigger. Flatten?!

Haiz... if only that's (become flatten) happening to the tummy....
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Samantha,
Thats what i tot leh, if my sister after birth, very hard working go for massage with firming cream etc, dunno whether it will be better. Cos now a bit too late to salvage, can only go for operation.
 
Samantha,
'Flat' is jus a form of description if u wanna be precised....is more like sagging.
'after birth tummy still stretch' usually tks abt few mths to reduce, if it still stays like 5mths preggy it cld be a 'Diastasis recti' case.
 
Sam, you probably can't really tell whether he has a strong interest in music, or more specifically in piano, so soon. It's normally after a few years or so when things start "to get harder" then the ones who really enjoy will pull through, the others will leave or be forced by parents to continue. Generally kids will enjoy music, moving around, dancing. Like what Kin mentioned, a good teacher is a good start. At this age, you'll need to look for a teacher who can cultivate and preserve whatever interest the child has and to try and develop that further. Then as the child progresses further the emphasis changes and sometimes the teacher will have to change too, depending on whether the teacher is able to cater both sides of the world.

Firming cream - Clarins is good though personally I didn't use. Friends who did use have good things to say about it.
 
Sam,

Cannot see meaning haha, dunno what to do with it.
Think this is partly due to gene too, I always have difficulties reducing fats/weight but gaining is ez, and i eat when i'm stressed and i'm stressed everyday, LOL! Yes, i do hv lots of "exercising" at home, but hungry easily too... I'm not too big at limps, only the abdomen area and this area needs either diet or specific exercise. As I am still breastfeeding, so i do not diet so much, and i try not to else no energy to do housework. so is a chicken and egg story again.
 
Sue,
we share the same sentiment hee! i'd stop bf but gets hungry easily especially taking care of the lil one and doing hse chores, hence i'll eat more. try to take less for dinner (meaning no carbo) but always ended up eating snacks to curb my hunger (very sinful).
 
<font color="ff6000">Ivy</font>
Kiddy Palace also sell. Yes, you can consider to get it after she is 6mths, meanwhile bb cot would be nice for her.

<font color="ff6000">jfoo</font>
4.30pm might be too early for me. I will give you a call if I am able to make it.
Are you walking there, or taking a bus?

<font color="ff6000">babe</font>
I won't be joining you this evening.
Just recovered from 3 days of high fever :-(
 
Precious,
ya i tot of going kiddy palace and toy'r'us to see if happen to pass by, cos the online person selling cheaper.. unless i dun want that brand, then i will get later.
 
JFoo and Kin, just wanna to check where is a good place to kickstart music classes. My child is 2 years old this year. Was thinking of Christofori school at central when he is older at 3.5 yers old to do the 'Mozart in the Making' class. But not too sure if it's a good place though.
 
Swimmy
Frederick &amp; Inch by Inch
Best for ages 3 to 8
Nov 10 to 15
by Mermaid Theatre of Nova Scotia, Canada

The theatre company brought the story Eric Carle's The Very Hungry Caterpillar last year.

Interestingly, they have a performance in Mandarin.
Check out Act3 website
 
Precious, I'll be walking there with the kids. Sorry need to have it early cos I'll have to come back and prepare dinner.

Sam, Cristofori ain't a wise choice...Yamaha's JMC runs a better program. The main problem with these big schools is that teachers are not consistent. Some teachers do a good job, others not so.
 
So Jfoo, is there any other choices other than Cristofori and Yamaha?

So my road map should be: when Junior is around 3 or 4 yrs old, sign him up in group classes. Then start to monitor and see how he progress?

I was reading my son's ccc newletters today and there is this christmas activity that the ccc will be involved in. Of which, there will be one <u>solo violin performance by a K2 girl</u>.

I was very very surprised that a kid so young can perform, and violin some more!

Jfoo and Kin, being established music instrument teachers, is this something of an exception? Maybe she's a genius?
 
sue,
really salute you for being such an efficient mum. not easy to multi-task with 3 kids and having to wake up so early to prepare everything.

re: become flat on the top
after BF the boobs will sag and will shrink in size.

my gal likes to dance and sing and i too was wondering which music school would be good to send her to.
 
Char,
My gal 2+ also likes to do tat too and am souting ard for music, dance or speech &amp; drama ctr.

Undstd fm my colleague, if the child is enrolled in some CC for music lesson, at times they will have an opportunity to perform in front of an audience at Victoria theater etc., which i find it is a good exposure for the child, as well as, build-up their confidence lvl too.

Am not sure if Yamaha or other ctrs does have this kinda arrangement.
 
re: boobs after bf
it's actually like the tummy, after expanding to store more stuff, once it's vacate, it'll sag, hence exercise to regain the firm. as of size, i do not see any shrink in my case.

re: music for young
recently came across this in a magazine, looks interesting, interested mum may wanna look look see see
www.mycsingapore.com.sg

any mum have any recommendation on mandarin programme for 2 yo? Julia Gabriel needs to waitlist...
 
mommies,
my hubby want to get this thermometer, instead of the braun ear thermometer, any one use before??

he say the name is - ThermoGuard thermometer
 
ivy,
we bout 2 diff types one is used to measure tempreture by ear canal and the other (coventional type) by the oral/armpit. however, we bth find the latter more effective as measuring thru ear canal u need to insert at the rite angle otherwise u'll have different reading each time. fyi, the conventional type u need to add 0.5ºC after the final reading.
 
Hi Ivy

I have the braun ear thermometer and recently, bought the Thermoflash one, I think same like ur thermoguard

I prefer the non contact one, coz my son refuse to let us insert his ear canal and it is very difficult to get his temp.
 
Sam, the word "perform" nowadays is so widely used. Anyone can perform, take a look at American Idol or America's Got Talent or an such shows and you'll get the idea. Not saying that it's not good, cos it is a way of encouraging people to step up and "perform" to boost up confidence level. So, back to this CCC child, she could well be gifted, who knows, but she could also just be "a child who knows how to play a simple tune".

Dor, nowadays, music schools do give the opportunity to perform at least yearly, if not half yearly. Even individual teachers do that now. I started getting my students to give "mini concerts" (though just internally) since my teaching days in UK. Even the little ones "perform" - and that is just simply playing a piece they love to other kids.

Yamaha the organisation is too big so I think they only have space for the "better ones" to perform, but then the performance is open to the public, which of course mentally raises it to a different level for the performer.

Ivy, I have a Chicco forehead thermometer if you're interested. Used it a few times only. Personally I prefer the ear thermometer but it is difficult to use only a baby. And that's why I bought the Chicco.
 



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