Prof PC Wong - IVF with Norethisterone


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Jia you @pinkfuchsia ... hope everything is well...
Hello... Thank you. The reading was exactly doubled, no more no less. Still 50/50, hv to retest this thurs. But I tink its nt looking too Gd. POAS this am and the positive line kinda look fainter than the last I took on sat. I have to be prepared for the worst to happen...
 
Hello... Thank you. The reading was exactly doubled, no more no less. Still 50/50, hv to retest this thurs. But I tink its nt looking too Gd. POAS this am and the positive line kinda look fainter than the last I took on sat. I have to be prepared for the worst to happen...
When will the next appt/test be?
Stay positive dear
 
Oh I overlooked... Your next test on thu.. Jia you!
Meanwhile stay hopeful.. Pregnant unless proven otherwise!
Hi there gal, things are really not looking hopeful.. I want to hv a conclusion asap especially now I gather some hints that it's not looking positive. I doubt I can get a bt done today right? Coz nuh hv to order a bt before we can do it.. I'm supposed to get my proluton jab today...
 
Can!! Can do walk-in bt!
2 weeks ago I was spotting and cramping. So when I went for my jab, I approached sharon to request for bt. She said ok. I got my results within hrs.
 
Can!! Can do walk-in bt!
2 weeks ago I was spotting and cramping. So when I went for my jab, I approached sharon to request for bt. She said ok. I got my results within hrs.
She suggested thur since I be getting my jab again.. I just tested on sat, if I test again today will it be too early?

How are u now??? Why spot and cramp? Everything ok?
 
Oh ya usually they don't repeat BT within 2 days.. Previously I could maybe cos it was a week interval.
My cramping stopped but on & off still see pink on the crinone that falls out.
My next scan is in a week's time at 7w. Hope to see hb by then.
I'm worried cos I'm having ZERO symptoms & not feeling preg at all.
 
Oh ya usually they don't repeat BT within 2 days.. Previously I could maybe cos it was a week interval.
My cramping stopped but on & off still see pink on the crinone that falls out.
My next scan is in a week's time at 7w. Hope to see hb by then.
I'm worried cos I'm having ZERO symptoms & not feeling preg at all.

Yalor it could be too early to track so I can only rely on HPT and see if the positive line gets fainter and fainter by day. My crinone looks greyish brown, it cld be blood! All the best to you.. Haiz I can't even pass thru my first hurdle here so I can imagine forthcoming obstacles!
 
Yalor it could be too early to track so I can only rely on HPT and see if the positive line gets fainter and fainter by day. My crinone looks greyish brown, it cld be blood! All the best to you.. Haiz I can't even pass thru my first hurdle here so I can imagine forthcoming obstacles!
I sometimes have grey/brown too.
Dr chew said it could come from anywhere, esp when using crinone we keep poking our fragile parts.
Anyway, I calculated previously, my BT doubled every 2 days also.
Are u having your 1st u/s scan soon? Should be able to see location at 5w to rule out ectopic.
U wanna try testing with clearblue digital HPT? The one which indicates how many weeks preg. Normal HPTs it's quite subjective to decide darker/lighter. I read that many worried preggies use that for peace of mind in early preg.
 
Jia you all mommies-to-be. @pinkfuchsia previous day's HPT may have drying line, i.e. it gets darker after a while. So might not be comparable with the current one you just took. Don't be stressed, take it easy yah...

@remembeRainbow I think in the main IVF thread, there is a mommy who thought that her cycle was going to be wasted, no symptoms at all and she went to drink alcoholic drinks, all day walking and shopping, but in the end, she got pregnant. So don't worry about zero symptoms. The symptoms will come as the pregnancy progresses further. Enjoy it now that you have no symptoms yet.
 
I sometimes have grey/brown too.
Dr chew said it could come from anywhere, esp when using crinone we keep poking our fragile parts.
Anyway, I calculated previously, my BT doubled every 2 days also.
Are u having your 1st u/s scan soon? Should be able to see location at 5w to rule out ectopic.
U wanna try testing with clearblue digital HPT? The one which indicates how many weeks preg. Normal HPTs it's quite subjective to decide darker/lighter. I read that many worried preggies use that for peace of mind in early preg.
Oh you are with dr chew? He's quite a cheery doc.. I wasn't given any date for scan coz duno if my pregnancy is viable or not. I was testing with clearblue and although not the digital one, I can see the line is fainter! Ok I will try to purchase the digital one later, thanks.
 
Jia you all mommies-to-be. @pinkfuchsia previous day's HPT may have drying line, i.e. it gets darker after a while. So might not be comparable with the current one you just took. Don't be stressed, take it easy yah...

@remembeRainbow I think in the main IVF thread, there is a mommy who thought that her cycle was going to be wasted, no symptoms at all and she went to drink alcoholic drinks, all day walking and shopping, but in the end, she got pregnant. So don't worry about zero symptoms. The symptoms will come as the pregnancy progresses further. Enjoy it now that you have no symptoms yet.
I snap photo and compare within 10 mins it's tested for both...
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Oh you are with dr chew? He's quite a cheery doc.. I wasn't given any date for scan coz duno if my pregnancy is viable or not. I was testing with clearblue and although not the digital one, I can see the line is fainter! Ok I will try to purchase the digital one later, thanks.
I'm with Prof, but cos Prof on leave last week, dr chew was covering. Ya he's not as serious as Prof & more chatty also.
I still won't trust the shades of the lines since it's not the same urine. The amt of water u drank, no. of hrs u hold etc may affect concentration of HCG a little.
I'm not trying to raise your hopes but many factors come into play. The most reliable is still BT.
Even with the clearblue weeks indicator, it's based on urine & the range is like 1-2w, 2-3w, 3w+ which is not for close interval use also.
 
I'm with Prof, but cos Prof on leave last week, dr chew was covering. Ya he's not as serious as Prof & more chatty also.
I still won't trust the shades of the lines since it's not the same urine. The amt of water u drank, no. of hrs u hold etc may affect concentration of HCG a little.
I'm not trying to raise your hopes but many factors come into play. The most reliable is still BT.
Even with the clearblue weeks indicator, it's based on urine & the range is like 1-2w, 2-3w, 3w+ which is not for close interval use also.
Ya I saw dr chew twice and find him quite chatty too. Yea u do make sense and yes I will not be overly hopeful as well. Everything on the Internet spells doom abt my situation
 
May be a gd idea to stay off this forum & the Internet for the next few days.
I did that during the last week of my 2ww when I started spotting.
I ALWAYS spot 5 days before AF (be it ivf/natural cycles). Everything on the net spells doom until I decided not to look at it anymore. I cried like anything... Then bam! A nice surprise during BT!
 
May be a gd idea to stay off this forum & the Internet for the next few days.
I did that during the last week of my 2ww when I started spotting.
I ALWAYS spot 5 days before AF (be it ivf/natural cycles). Everything on the net spells doom until I decided not to look at it anymore. I cried like anything... Then bam! A nice surprise during BT!
Haha a bit tough to stay off this forum, U guys are so encouraging!
 
Eh actually come to tink of it, if hcg increases day by day, the concentration will be more right? So no matter wat time and when we test, the line ought to be much darker? No?
 
Too many possibilities dear... But so long as I see the 2nd line, I'd keep my hopes.
This ivf thingy is really absurd!! No woman deserve to go thru all these nonsense we're having.. arghhh
 
Too many possibilities dear... But so long as I see the 2nd line, I'd keep my hopes.
This ivf thingy is really absurd!! No woman deserve to go thru all these nonsense we're having.. arghhh
Girl we are on IVF for some reasons, not tat we want to.. But sometimes we just dun hv a choice. So we just hafta accept our fate.

Hmm mb I hv nthg to hang on to in the midst of waiting for my next BT so tats y lingering over how dark my lines are day to day...
 
Yup plain waiting is totally insane!
I also doing all kinds of stuff.. Drinking milk twice a day, talking to bb, listening to classical music, deep breathing, stroking tummy, watching cartoon channels, praying... praying..
Anything that makes me feel gd & "helpful" to bb. That's all we can do right?
 
Yup plain waiting is totally insane!
I also doing all kinds of stuff.. Drinking milk twice a day, talking to bb, listening to classical music, deep breathing, stroking tummy, watching cartoon channels, praying... praying..
Anything that makes me feel gd & "helpful" to bb. That's all we can do right?
Drop U a pm :)
 
@remembeRainbow This is just the beginning... there will be many more worries along the pregnancy journey. Every scan would feel worry, is the baby okay? is the baby growing per normal? Weight, head circumference, abdominal circumference okay? Then come the blood test to determine the risk of abnormality in our baby - another HUGE worry! Then the baby's kicks and movements... some days she was quiet, some days rather active. But when she was quiet, another worry! Then, baby's position, head down or breech? Placenta position okay? I prayed regularly when I was preggy, prayed for healthy baby. That's all I could do... plus counting kicks! Sheepishly admitting that I don't pray as regular anymore now. :oops:

@pinkfuchsia I thought first morning urine is the best for POAS? So to be consistent, maybe you test on fmu instead every day?
 
@remembeRainbow This is just the beginning... there will be many more worries along the pregnancy journey. Every scan would feel worry, is the baby okay? is the baby growing per normal? Weight, head circumference, abdominal circumference okay? Then come the blood test to determine the risk of abnormality in our baby - another HUGE worry! Then the baby's kicks and movements... some days she was quiet, some days rather active. But when she was quiet, another worry! Then, baby's position, head down or breech? Placenta position okay? I prayed regularly when I was preggy, prayed for healthy baby. That's all I could do... plus counting kicks! Sheepishly admitting that I don't pray as regular anymore now. :oops:

@pinkfuchsia I thought first morning urine is the best for POAS? So to be consistent, maybe you test on fmu instead every day?

Gosh @cheeka, hearing what u've said, it seems so scary...!! I kinda completed My starting and finishing line alrdy I too, pray pray pray even go temple draw divine lot.. Just to make myself feel better..

Yup both hpt I posted is tested using first morning urine. I cheated once last fri at 4pm and it's equally dark la!
 
At this stage, I wouldn't try anything "out of the ordinary". And probably Prof Wong wouldn't agree to it as well. He asked me to stop all tcm from the beginning of the cycle, excluding acupuncture though. But it's up to you... if it makes you feel better, then go ahead. ;)
 
@remembeRainbow This is just the beginning... there will be many more worries along the pregnancy journey. Every scan would feel worry, is the baby okay? is the baby growing per normal? Weight, head circumference, abdominal circumference okay? Then come the blood test to determine the risk of abnormality in our baby - another HUGE worry! Then the baby's kicks and movements... some days she was quiet, some days rather active. But when she was quiet, another worry! Then, baby's position, head down or breech? Placenta position okay? I prayed regularly when I was preggy, prayed for healthy baby. That's all I could do... plus counting kicks! Sheepishly admitting that I don't pray as regular anymore now. :oops:

@pinkfuchsia I thought first morning urine is the best for POAS? So to be consistent, maybe you test on fmu instead every day?
LOL thanks for pre-empting me what's coming up next :p
 
At this stage, I wouldn't try anything "out of the ordinary". And probably Prof Wong wouldn't agree to it as well. He asked me to stop all tcm from the beginning of the cycle, excluding acupuncture though. But it's up to you... if it makes you feel better, then go ahead. ;)
Tats y I'm struggling whether to do it or not.. At times I feel like giving up but I see my embbie still fighting to survive.. So... Haiz so emotional..
 
At this stage, I wouldn't try anything "out of the ordinary". And probably Prof Wong wouldn't agree to it as well. He asked me to stop all tcm from the beginning of the cycle, excluding acupuncture though. But it's up to you... if it makes you feel better, then go ahead. ;)
Ya Prof don't seem to like tcm. Last time during iui when I insisted i ovulated cos bbt increased, he didn't seem to believe.
I think better not take any chinese herbs while on hormones support. May clash.
 
Ya Prof don't seem to like tcm. Last time during iui when I insisted i ovulated cos bbt increased, he didn't seem to believe.
I think better not take any chinese herbs while on hormones support. May clash.
Ya I know prof is anti-tcm haha... I'm still tracking my bbt daily too, still high but it could be due to all the progesterone inserts, right? So ok, I think I will just stay normal, I've tried my level best...
 
Ya I know prof is anti-tcm haha... I'm still tracking my bbt daily too, still high but it could be due to all the progesterone inserts, right? So ok, I think I will just stay normal, I've tried my level best...
Aiyo throw away the thermometer lah! I read that once preg, bbt will fluctuate. Don't scare yourself!
Last week I had sorethroat & flu so I kept measuring my temp, trying to prevent fever. Temp fluctuate like anything. Even can drop to 35.6
 
Aiyo throw away the thermometer lah! I read that once preg, bbt will fluctuate. Don't scare yourself!
Last week I had sorethroat & flu so I kept measuring my temp, trying to prevent fever. Temp fluctuate like anything. Even can drop to 35.6
Hahaha okok but 35.6 still considered above cover line right?
 
I went thiong chai for almost 2 yrs, then went for IUIs.
Then went euyansang for a few mths. Then went to some well-hidden bugis tcm for 9 mths before started ivf.
 
None of the 3 TCMs I saw could solve my follicle problem. My body just wants to LH surge & ovulate early when follicle is still small.
So far only clomid & western meds could solve my problem. No guts to try accup though.
 
At this stage, I wouldn't try anything "out of the ordinary". And probably Prof Wong wouldn't agree to it as well. He asked me to stop all tcm from the beginning of the cycle, excluding acupuncture though. But it's up to you... if it makes you feel better, then go ahead. ;)
@cheeka,
You mean prof asked you to stop all tcm from beginning whicg is the injection started?
I visited tcm and took chinese medicine after ER and i am thaw cycle, FET will likely in Apr, i did acupuncture twice a week now, at the same time i took supplements too. Not sure if too much for my body
 
At this stage, I wouldn't try anything "out of the ordinary". And probably Prof Wong wouldn't agree to it as well. He asked me to stop all tcm from the beginning of the cycle, excluding acupuncture though. But it's up to you... if it makes you feel better, then go ahead. ;)
@cheeka,
You mean prof asked you to stop all tcm from beginning whicg is the injection started?
I visited tcm and took chinese medicine after ER and i am thaw cycle, FET will likely in Apr, i did acupuncture twice a week now, at the same time i took supplements too. Not sure if too much for my body
 
@cheeka,
You mean prof asked you to stop all tcm from beginning whicg is the injection started?
I visited tcm and took chinese medicine after ER and i am thaw cycle, FET will likely in Apr, i did acupuncture twice a week now, at the same time i took supplements too. Not sure if too much for my body
I took tcm and accu for FET, also folic and conceive well... Together with progynova too !
 


Ya Prof don't seem to like tcm. Last time during iui when I insisted i ovulated cos bbt increased, he didn't seem to believe.
I think better not take any chinese herbs while on hormones support. May clash.
@remembeRainbow,
I have 2 friends started the injections and tcm stopped giving them chinese herbs, agreed with you better not take chiness herb while on hormones support.
I did show 2 supplement bottles with ingredients to prof, he read it and told me to stop one when i started injection. Till now i dare not take that supplement.
 

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