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Hi Second, can i check. When did u start your round 2 jabs and how many days later is the 1st and 2nd scan? I'm going to kkh tomorrow for my first scan tomorrow. I have yet to start my jabs for stim.

Hi Ginger, my 1st scan is on CD3, 2nd scan on CD 10..1st scan they will advise on the jabs
 
I am not sure but this is the read up. Iwantahealthybaby, Portia and myself did intralipid.

Intralipid infusion therapy?

Intralipid infusion therapy is a treatment, which is administered through an IV drip in the arm made from soya bean oil, egg yolk, glycerin and water. Intralipid Infusion therapy provides the body with essential fatty acids that help to lower the activity of Natural Killer (NK) cells.

Ok mesara and Portia i wil try intralipid for next cycle. When we must take it ?how many days before et? Shall I try endo scratch also? Is it painful? how much it wil cost?
 
Thursday, 12dp3dt. My fresh red bleed continues. However, all my hpt shows +ve and lines darker than previous day.

Friday, 13dp3dt. HCG level only increased by 62% In 2 days to 104. l was stressed up badly. Dr Loh was expecting it to be 200 or more. with my continued bleeding and a less than double increase in HCG, the situation didn't look good. l cried hard that night.

Saturday, 14dp3dt. l woke up In tears fearing the worse, l woke my DH and decided to bring forward our blood test with KKIVF on Monday , 19 May to that morning. l need to see the doubling in HCG from 11dp3dt. The HCG count was 116- I was devastated. The increased was only by 12 in 24 hours and it was slightly below double compared to 3 days ago (64). l was so depressed and was losing hope.

Sunday, l5dp3dt. The bleeding lightened to pinkish stain with occassional tiny clots. My hpts continue to show darkening +ve lines. l was still depressed. I prayed hard for my HCG test the next day.

Today, 16dp3dt. The pinkish discharge remains but seems lesser. I went to TMC for another HCG test. l prayed very hard before I left. upon my return, I called my DH to call Dr Loh's office for the results in 2 hours time. l did not want to be the one hearing the result fearing the worse.

DH called and told me that the number had more than doubled at 314.In fact, it tripled from 3 days ago at 104. My stress left me at that instant and l managed to let out a laugh after so many days of fears , tears and Stress.
hi portia!!! wow!! so happy to know that u have finally BFPed!!! i remember cycling with u in ur previous cycle...
Congratz!! u can finally put ur mind at ease :)

As for me, today is 7dp2dt and i started having bad cramps at lower abdomen in the morning..now its back to normal...hopeful this is my last cycle as i dun wish to go thru the jabs again...praying hard that the the embbies are getting implanted!! :)
 
Ok mesara and Portia i wil try intralipid for next cycle. When we must take it ?how many days before et? Shall I try endo scratch also? Is it painful? how much it wil cost?
Anamika,

Do speak to yr doc abt endo scratch. It's suppose to up thd chance for the embbie to stick but it is not proven yet. The procedure takes 5 min but u can feel the scratching pain n cramps when it is being done. The cost is about $200++ as it is done in thr clinic.

As for intralipid infusion, you may want to go to dr loh at tmc and ask him about it. He will advise when to do. The cost is around $200++ each time as well.
 
I am not sure but this is the read up. Iwantahealthybaby, Portia and myself did intralipid.

Intralipid infusion therapy?

Intralipid infusion therapy is a treatment, which is administered through an IV drip in the arm made from soya bean oil, egg yolk, glycerin and water. Intralipid Infusion therapy provides the body with essential fatty acids that help to lower the activity of Natural Killer (NK) cells.

Ok mesara and Portia i wil try intralipid for next cycle. When we must take it ?how many days before et? Shall I try endo scratch also? Is it painful? how much it wil cost?
Anamika,

Do speak to yr doc abt endo scratch. It's suppose to up thd chance for the embbie to stick but it is not proven yet. The procedure takes 5 min but u can feel the scratching pain n cramps when it is being done. The cost is about $200++ as it is done in thr clinic.

As for intralipid infusion, you may want to go to dr loh at tmc and ask him about it. He will advise when to do. The cost is around $200++ each time as well.

To see doc loh do I need to take appointment before? My next appointment with Dr sadhana is June 10th can i see doctor loh before that or later?
 
Congratulations @portia3 That was a rollercoaster ride indeed! Are u still continuing your HL?
I personally would especially if you're working in a stressful environment. And i know how it feels to be cautiously happy.
Please take care of yourself ok!
 
hi portia!!! wow!! so happy to know that u have finally BFPed!!! i remember cycling with u in ur previous cycle...
Congratz!! u can finally put ur mind at ease :)

As for me, today is 7dp2dt and i started having bad cramps at lower abdomen in the morning..now its back to normal...hopeful this is my last cycle as i dun wish to go thru the jabs again...praying hard that the the embbies are getting implanted!! :)
Thanks, santhiya. I remember u too from the last cycle.

To be honest, when i first realised my bfp on 9dp3dt on last Monday, I was really over the moon. But very quickly, the happiness was overtaken by stress and worry. I only managed to heave a sigh of relief this afternoon when i recieve my latest hcg test results. Now, i am cautiously happy and just hope for the staining to go off entirely soon and for the hcg to double for the next test 3 days later.

I hope u will get yr bfp this cycle too. Then we can all join the same thread for new moms later on. :)
 
Thursday, 12dp3dt. My fresh red bleed continues. However, all my hpt shows +ve and lines darker than previous day.

Friday, 13dp3dt. HCG level only increased by 62% In 2 days to 104. l was stressed up badly. Dr Loh was expecting it to be 200 or more. with my continued bleeding and a less than double increase in HCG, the situation didn't look good. l cried hard that night.

Saturday, 14dp3dt. l woke up In tears fearing the worse, l woke my DH and decided to bring forward our blood test with KKIVF on Monday , 19 May to that morning. l need to see the doubling in HCG from 11dp3dt. The HCG count was 116- I was devastated. The increased was only by 12 in 24 hours and it was slightly below double compared to 3 days ago (64). l was so depressed and was losing hope.

Sunday, l5dp3dt. The bleeding lightened to pinkish stain with occassional tiny clots. My hpts continue to show darkening +ve lines. l was still depressed. I prayed hard for my HCG test the next day.

Today, 16dp3dt. The pinkish discharge remains but seems lesser. I went to TMC for another HCG test. l prayed very hard before I left. upon my return, I called my DH to call Dr Loh's office for the results in 2 hours time. l did not want to be the one hearing the result fearing the worse.

DH called and told me that the number had more than doubled at 314.In fact, it tripled from 3 days ago at 104. My stress left me at that instant and l managed to let out a laugh after so many days of fears , tears and Stress.
Wow!.. Congrats @portia3..
 
Portia3,
Please fully bed rest since your pregnancy still not stable.

Sorry not to make u worry but i got bt reading of 722 for my FET but mc after 6 days. I have it and yet lost my precious baby after 6 days of happiness. Totally no spotting during 2wwk, thought our hope for live birth baby finally can reach after so many IVF unsuccessful but it just gone within hrs of bleeding.

So please please take care.
 
Portia3,
Please fully bed rest since your pregnancy still not stable.

Sorry not to make u worry but i got bt reading of 722 for my FET but mc after 6 days. I have it and yet lost my precious baby after 6 days of happiness. Totally no spotting during 2wwk, thought our hope for live birth baby finally can reach after so many IVF unsuccessful but it just gone within hrs of bleeding.

So please please take care.

Precious Babies,

This is what i fear too.... hence i always need assurance from blood tests, hpts, support med, and second opinions to keep me going. I have made it passed 7 days after my first positive find in hpt. Will take special care and bed rest this week till i see my next blood test result in a few dsys. My next milestone is to see the the ultrasound scan for the heart beats and sac.
 
rest well portia.. take care!! congrats but u muz really take care of ur health..
this is a very crucial stage.
Thank you, baby_sparkles.

I will bed rest and try to eat and sleep well in the coming days.

U also take care of yourself and do quiz your doctor on the possibilities for not succeeding this time. Try and explore some ways to better yr chance next round.
 
yeah i will grill him but im sure he will say he doesnt have a reason for the failure :(
can only change dosage next round. i think i have 坏蛋
If you aldy have blastocysts, quality can't be that bad. Maybe it is due to implantation issue? Ask him about endo scratch and intralipid. Although not guaranteed but they ate both suppose to help with implantation.
 
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@portia3, you are welcome :) I'm really happy for mesara and you.... that both of you got BFP results... Even though I'm just a reader of this forum.. Can roughly imagine all those ladies knowing they have BFP at that moment... All of them must be thrilled... Stayed cheerful in these 8 months.. ;) :)
 
Hi sisters, like to check with you all... I'm going for TCM for the first time to tiao my body... Should I bring any medical reports for the sinseh to see? Can advise what are the reports to bring so that I can request from KK medical records centre?
 
@portia3, you are welcome :) I'm really happy for mesara and you.... that both of you got BFP results... Even though I'm just a reader of this forum.. Can roughly imagine all those ladies knowing they have BFP at that moment... All of them must be thrilled... Stayed cheerful in these 8 months.. ;) :)
I wish i can be more relax and happier but the truth is i am still having jitters and butterflies in my stomach becsuse of the spotting and bleeds. Will probably be a lot more relief when i see the sac and heartbeat in the utetus next week at the u/s scan.
 
Hi all.

It's been a long while since my last visit ( 6 mths I assume).
Anyway, a huge Hello to all who hv been der for me and to new friends.

Just wanna update.
My last gd bye was after my 3 failed FET, in oct 2013. Aft that dh n I took a break. I started work at a new workplace and enrolled in sch,
A lil history- married for 5 yrs.
Did hsg and lap n countless test, I hv chromosomes issues.
Dh has sever vericocelle, vericose veins at his scrotum wic cause low motility, low mortality and low morphology.
He was referred to urologist at TTSH from the andrology dept Dr Matthew Lau.

Well, Dh finally took e plunge and had day surgery to remove the vericose veins on February 2014. We were told by the expert that significant sperm results can only be seen 2-6mths post surgery. So we tot ok if by that period we don't conceive we ll go back to kkh ivf for our second fresh.

God is great, I'm 8 weeks pregnant currently..
Big big shock to us, our families and close buddies who hv known our journey and prayed for us.

So now I have stopped work (it's freelance anyway) and postpone sch. Morning sickness n sleepless nights due to backaches has been a permanent resident. Basking in my joy, embracing my miracle.

I wish I can inspire other ladies who hv a similar situation. Maybe we shld give ourselves a break and let our men do their tiny bit and hopefully wld safe us from anymore painful and costly triumphs at e fertility clinic.

Nevertheless, my prayers are with all of u. All the best in ur journey. May u all be blessed too.
Baby dusts to all :)
 
Hi sisters, like to check with you all... I'm going for TCM for the first time to tiao my body... Should I bring any medical reports for the sinseh to see? Can advise what are the reports to bring so that I can request from KK medical records centre?
Hi chubby,

Bring the SA report and if you had fibroids removed or other reports pertaining to ailments of the reproductive organs. These will help.
 
Hi all.

It's been a long while since my last visit ( 6 mths I assume).
Anyway, a huge Hello to all who hv been der for me and to new friends.

Just wanna update.
My last gd bye was after my 3 failed FET, in oct 2013. Aft that dh n I took a break. I started work at a new workplace and enrolled in sch,
A lil history- married for 5 yrs.
Did hsg and lap n countless test, I hv chromosomes issues.
Dh has sever vericocelle, vericose veins at his scrotum wic cause low motility, low mortality and low morphology.
He was referred to urologist at TTSH from the andrology dept Dr Matthew Lau.

Well, Dh finally took e plunge and had day surgery to remove the vericose veins on February 2014. We were told by the expert that significant sperm results can only be seen 2-6mths post surgery. So we tot ok if by that period we don't conceive we ll go back to kkh ivf for our second fresh.

God is great, I'm 8 weeks pregnant currently..
Big big shock to us, our families and close buddies who hv known our journey and prayed for us.

So now I have stopped work (it's freelance anyway) and postpone sch. Morning sickness n sleepless nights due to backaches has been a permanent resident. Basking in my joy, embracing my miracle.

I wish I can inspire other ladies who hv a similar situation. Maybe we shld give ourselves a break and let our men do their tiny bit and hopefully wld safe us from anymore painful and costly triumphs at e fertility clinic.

Nevertheless, my prayers are with all of u. All the best in ur journey. May u all be blessed too.
Baby dusts to all :)
Congrats, missyz!

May i know why gynae are you seeing at the moment?
 
Hi all.

It's been a long while since my last visit ( 6 mths I assume).
Anyway, a huge Hello to all who hv been der for me and to new friends.

Just wanna update.
My last gd bye was after my 3 failed FET, in oct 2013. Aft that dh n I took a break. I started work at a new workplace and enrolled in sch,
A lil history- married for 5 yrs.
Did hsg and lap n countless test, I hv chromosomes issues.
Dh has sever vericocelle, vericose veins at his scrotum wic cause low motility, low mortality and low morphology.
He was referred to urologist at TTSH from the andrology dept Dr Matthew Lau.

Well, Dh finally took e plunge and had day surgery to remove the vericose veins on February 2014. We were told by the expert that significant sperm results can only be seen 2-6mths post surgery. So we tot ok if by that period we don't conceive we ll go back to kkh ivf for our second fresh.

God is great, I'm 8 weeks pregnant currently..
Big big shock to us, our families and close buddies who hv known our journey and prayed for us.

So now I have stopped work (it's freelance anyway) and postpone sch. Morning sickness n sleepless nights due to backaches has been a permanent resident. Basking in my joy, embracing my miracle.

I wish I can inspire other ladies who hv a similar situation. Maybe we shld give ourselves a break and let our men do their tiny bit and hopefully wld safe us from anymore painful and costly triumphs at e fertility clinic.

Nevertheless, my prayers are with all of u. All the best in ur journey. May u all be blessed too.
Baby dusts to all :)
Wow!.. That's great news @missyz and thank you for your prayers.. May you have a blessed full term pregnancy.. GBU :)
 
Congrats, missyz!

May i know why gynae are you seeing at the moment?
I used to be with Dr Sheila Loh at kkh clinic d and the ivf clinic dr I forgot haha. So long ago.

Now for this unplanned, natural pregnancy I hv chosen Dr Su Lin Lin at NUH due to my current residence.
 
after reading all these BFP n BFN stories, i cant help lamenting tat conception is nvr about science or statistics...at the end of day it all boils down to FATE...

TCC has been a lonely journey for mi as my hubby didnt like me sharing with my fren (due to face issue) although i feel tat i need to talk to someone...pple who can understand, pple who has been through this TCC route...definitely nt those 'anyhw touch also can preggie' pple for they wil nvr understand hw i feel...so glad i found this page..beside learning more abt the ivf process, i oso found an avenue to share my journey...

thanks ladies!
 
after reading all these BFP n BFN stories, i cant help lamenting tat conception is nvr about science or statistics...at the end of day it all boils down to FATE...

TCC has been a lonely journey for mi as my hubby didnt like me sharing with my fren (due to face issue) although i feel tat i need to talk to someone...pple who can understand, pple who has been through this TCC route...definitely nt those 'anyhw touch also can preggie' pple for they wil nvr understand hw i feel...so glad i found this page..beside learning more abt the ivf process, i oso found an avenue to share my journey...

thanks ladies!
@second, you are not alone in this journey.. Stay cheerful...As for fate.. I think our willingness to try and work hard towards our goal - BABY... also do play a part... :)
 
after reading all these BFP n BFN stories, i cant help lamenting tat conception is nvr about science or statistics...at the end of day it all boils down to FATE...

TCC has been a lonely journey for mi as my hubby didnt like me sharing with my fren (due to face issue) although i feel tat i need to talk to someone...pple who can understand, pple who has been through this TCC route...definitely nt those 'anyhw touch also can preggie' pple for they wil nvr understand hw i feel...so glad i found this page..beside learning more abt the ivf process, i oso found an avenue to share my journey...

thanks ladies!

Don't be discouraged second. I am taking my BFN very positively this round. (had my first failed IUI). I have told myself that I want to take a break for at least a cycle and I think I want to try naturally again. I think my body is not suited to take those injections and drugs, I break out into rashes apparently. I will contemplate if I should go for TCM but am afraid of acu and don't want to risk taking the medicine. Dilemma...
 
Congrats to @portia3, pls take a lot of bed rest and eat healthy,dun think too much as it is not good for u n ur bb. Come to here if you would like to find someone to talk to.
Congrats to @missyz as well, it is such a wonderful gift from god :)

Today is my cd4, went to visit my doctor this afternoon, blood test result come back is normal and the cyst found on cd2 seem to shrink and get a greenlight to go ahead with progynoya support to start prepare for FET this round. Hopefully my lining is good and can do the transfer in early June. Will start to drink red date plus wolf berries drink from tmr. Jia you for all the sisters here!
 
Congrats mesara and portia!! Portia, I'm especially happy for u! I just log in after a few mths and am reading so many good news! For the rest who r trying, jiayou! I'm also still trying.. trying for natural now. Just got an appt w tsb in June and will be planning my next cycle a few mths later.

Btw I'm thinking to try out intralipid infusion at tmc. Do we need to inform the kkh ivf doc? Need to do 2 times? When do we need to make appt?
 
Hi gals, I am out of e game too. Back to clinic as requested by them to go back on d10 past transfer to do blood test n got a phone call from them in late evening tt e preg test is negative. Me and hubby went for a buffet treat after on a clean diet for 6months to eat to make us feel better.Menses didn't come yet though but I think it's gone case le.sore boobs feeling and bloatedness gone 2 days ago.

I am glad to find this forum as my hubby n I is fighting this battle alone as we didn't tell our friends n relatives on this ivf journey as we didn't want additional stress..

Good luck to e rest of e gals who are trying.
 
Don't be discouraged second. I am taking my BFN very positively this round. (had my first failed IUI). I have told myself that I want to take a break for at least a cycle and I think I want to try naturally again. I think my body is not suited to take those injections and drugs, I break out into rashes apparently. I will contemplate if I should go for TCM but am afraid of acu and don't want to risk taking the medicine. Dilemma...
Oceandeep,

When I failed my 1st fresh cycle in Jan, I was devastated. However, I also told myself that it should not be a surprise since I did little preparation before going for it. When I decided to go for a 2nd fresh, l tell myself that I must do whatever humanly possible and within my means to improved my chances.

That is when I decided to try TCM, acupuncture (even though l fear needles), Endo Scratch and intralipid infusion. None of these treatment will guarantee success but if they will help to increase my chances or lessen the odds, I will give it a go.

I tell myself that I have to give the best shot and try my best. If I succeed, the pain, time , effort and $ spent will be worthwhile. If I don't, although I will still feel sad but at least I can tell myself that I have tried all ways possible. There will be no guilt on my part.

If you are keento try out TCM, l recommend that you go to TSB. Her herbs really help. Both DH and l could feel the difference after taking the herbs. Actually, I think her herbs helped me to lessen the bleed since l started drinking on last Wed.

For acupuncture, I go to Dr Zuo in AMK. Like TSB, She has a long queue of patients too. l find that my abdomen is warmer after acupuncture.
 
Congrats to @portia3, pls take a lot of bed rest and eat healthy,dun think too much as it is not good for u n ur bb. Come to here if you would like to find someone to talk to.
Congrats to @missyz as well, it is such a wonderful gift from god :)

Today is my cd4, went to visit my doctor this afternoon, blood test result come back is normal and the cyst found on cd2 seem to shrink and get a greenlight to go ahead with progynoya support to start prepare for FET this round. Hopefully my lining is good and can do the transfer in early June. Will start to drink red date plus wolf berries drink from tmr. Jia you for all the sisters here!
Thank you, Tinga, for your kind words. l will be going back to KKH today to see Dr S. Will probably ask her to extend my HL for bed rest.

Red bean soup is good for lining, You may want to eat it twice a week. Good luck for your FET!
 
Congrats mesara and portia!! Portia, I'm especially happy for u! I just log in after a few mths and am reading so many good news! For the rest who r trying, jiayou! I'm also still trying.. trying for natural now. Just got an appt w tsb in June and will be planning my next cycle a few mths later.

Btw I'm thinking to try out intralipid infusion at tmc. Do we need to inform the kkh ivf doc? Need to do 2 times? When do we need to make appt?
Mbb hopeful,

good to see you back here! l hope that n will conceive naturally and skip all the pain!

For intralipid infusion, there is no need to tell dr at KK. I did it once on day 7 of stim and another time last week after l BFP. Will do again in 2 weeks time as recommended by Dr loh. You can make an appt with Dr Loh first and check with him when u should do.
 

Ok mesara and Portia i wil try intralipid for next cycle. When we must take it ?how many days before et? Shall I try endo scratch also? Is it painful? how much it wil cost?


To see doc loh do I need to take appointment before? My next appointment with Dr sadhana is June 10th can i see doctor loh before that or later?

You need to make an appt if you want to see dr loh. The wait can be terrible if u walk in.

Also, i will be very discreet about the 2nd opinions and treatment i get from dr loh when i see dr sahana. Reason being, dr Sadhana is still the head of kkivf and the dr in charge of our cycle at kkh. It prob doesn't make her look good if we directly tell her that a 2nd opinion was sought from dr loh who was the previous head of kkivf before dr sahana. There will also be differing opinions between the 2 if them and u need to mske yr own judgement on whoose advice u r more comfy in following. At tims, you may also need very skillful influence and persuasion to get yr dr in charge to do what you believe in. In short, everything is about discretion and tact when communicating with both doctors so that you get the best advices out of both.
 

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