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Hi Noy, i guess so, but I'd hope to have as many mature follicles as possible to maximise chances. Really hope that the smaller ones will catch up quickly!
 


Hi all

I have went to Ban Choon Chan this morning. The sinseh advise is preferably not to do accupunture at the same time. He said that if do two things at the same time, he may not know if the medication is effective.

I thought it should be more effective this way. Anyone have done both at treatment at the same time?

Also as I have retroverted uterus, the sinseh say it is quite hard to conceive naturally. Anyone is of the same situation as me?
 
I don't think they will wait for the rest to grow if the leading follicles meet the size. As if the leading follicles get too big, then can't be used (if I remember correctly).
 
Chrisl

That is gd news. Meanwhile take gd care.

Ladies

Does your ovulation occur after failed Ivf or will it only happen in the next cycle.

Has been 14 days past the first bleeding when Ivf fails but doesn't seem to see the long stretchy clear mucous yet (sorry for being graphic)...
 
Had my ER yesterday and today having diarrhea :-( Don't know why?

Btw, do you know whether I can start drinking the longan tea now or after ET?
 
Oh yeah, just realised you were the one who posted the question abt diarrhoea. Sorry, I'm not very sure abt this since I'm new to this!

Longan tea shld be okay anytime right? Just that it may be a little heaty, from what i understand. Ladies, pls correct me if i'm wrong.
 
Noy,
I dunno abt diarrhea. Maybe it's a side effect from the anaesthesia? As for longan drink, u can drink any time but if it's the first time drinking, dun drink everyday for a start cos u might get too heaty. Drink on alternate days.
 
Hey eskimobaby,

I have 15 follicles growing, but only 4 are 11mm or above at the moment. The rest are between 8 - 10mm. Is that considered slow?

Mind if you share your experience too?
 
Luvnhope,
During my first cycle, I didn't care abt numbers... Only follow instructions to do things... Ask me to jab I jab ask me to scan I scan hehehe... But u do have a good number of follicles. The smaller ones r not too far off. Did u start taking ur egg whites? Can increase if u wan... Follicles need protein to grow.
 
hi LuvNhope

Your follicle sizes are actually quite close. Sizes of 16-20mm can be use so do not worry too much. Most impt is they continue to grow nice nice
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When doc order HCG for me, I had 2 follicle around 18mm and the rest all between 13-16mm only. Nurse said they will continue to grow after HCG shot and will be of just nice size.
 
Dear gals,

Been a silent reader the past week. This TTC journey is really a roller coaster ride for almost all of us.

I myself been through M/C in 2009, failed fresh IVF cos no embryo with NUH. I have adenomyosis, not conducive for pregnancy. NUH doctors even suggested adoption and surrogacy. That's like death sentence in conception? pretty demoralized, sorry for being emo today.

now 2ww with kkivf dr Loh, BT next Monday. Anyone else BT next week?

Also, if BFN, anyone knows usually the menses will come how many days after ET? It's my D14 after ET today. Appreciate all advice
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Hi eskimo and pinkdoll,

Thanks very much for your words of reassurance and advice! Feel more optimistic after reading your posts.
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So during ER, do they take out all the follicles? Even the ones less than 16mm?
 
Hi luvnhope,

I have abt 30 hpt strips since 2 years ago. So I test for fun everyday since day 8 although I was still on pregnyll. Since day 9 there has been a very faint line beside the dark control line, up til today, day 14. The last pregnyll jab I had was last Sunday. I don't take the reading seriously, it's the super cheap test strips and I had the jabs.

Now am just waiting for menses or BT on Monday, whichever comes first. Just wondering usually how many days after ET will menses come.
 
Elanie : I hv retroverted uterus and my Tcm says the same thing. But just more difficult only doesn't mean impossible..

Shashamama : good luck! U can test hpt now!
 
LuvNhope, heard from nurse that doc will retrieve all that can be found and of good size. Not sure if will take out the small ones also.

Sigh... I seems to have put on a lot of weight during this 1 week. Another week to go. Need to control my diet already :p But I will sometimes feel very hungry. Anyone feeling like this?

These few days suppose to be implantation. Will there be any symptoms? So far i don't feel anything since ET.
 
Elaine,

My first gynae said i had retroverted uterus too, but i managed to conceive naturally. The doc also said that retroverted uterus is simply another "version" of the female reproductive system and should not affect conception. During subsequent checkups after the birth of my DD, the gynae said my uterus was no longer retroverted. Strangely enough, maybe the pregnancy tilted it back?! Anyway, just wanted to say, don't worry, just stay stress free!
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pinkdoll,

I see. Well, I'll ask them when the day comes then!
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But hope all the follicles will be a good size by then!

Let's hope your putting on weight and feeling hungrier than usual is a good sign!
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Hi pink doll,

Supposedly there's implantation spotting for some gals. But some gals who BFP did not have any spotting too.

I feel hungry but can't eat much due to bloatedness, side effect if pregnyll jabs. You took pregnyll jabs? But as of yesterday, the bloatedness improved slightly. Dunno good sign or bad sign
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Elanie: Dr Tan Kian Sing at Clementi - Tel. 6872 3237. Can call to make acpuncture appointment but it's usually very full unless can make it during weekday day slot. Btw he is a guy. If u mind guy and prefer lady doing acupuncture, then Dr Zou more suitable.
 
Elaine - ya no worries abt the retroverted uterus. My colleague also has this condition and has 2 kids both conceived naturally.

LuvNhope - thanks. i certainly hope so
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Any idea when is the earliest we can test HPT?
 
Elaine,

The wait at Dr tan clementi is horrendous despite making appt. I gave up after a few months especially when I was staying at Tampines.

I also visited dr zou based on reading recommendations here but also gave up as my condition is too severe, the adenomyosis. And dr Loh gave me the ten-week Lucrin so I stopped acupuncture.

I also visited expensive TCM at bao Zhong tang at SGH. The senior consultant also said my condition too jialat for TCM to do anything much. One appt I spent over 300 dollars plus only 1 week worth of herbs.

For ban choon chan, I heard many success stories including my best friend. The wait is also horrid. The medicine need to brew. And there's no privacy there, no room, if you don't mind
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For the jurong east TCM, I heard not so good stuff before 2 years ago, something about almost everyone diagnosed with pcos and need to do surgery with dr Chris chen or something. Sorry if I have the wrong info. Been two years since I read that thread.
 
pinkdoll, since natural conception can be tested by D14/15, if you're not on hCG support (that would give false positives), shld be able to test by then?
 
Hi sistas, just wish to share with you I am BFP
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For my 2WW, the cramps came in the 2nd week and I was generally quite tired, bloatedness too. I spent most of my days either seated or lying down. I don't go out at all except to KKH for my daily injections. TCM has definitely helped me a lot.

All the best to all of you out there TTC naturally and via IVF. There is surely light at the end of the tunnel, stay positive and the good news will roll in.
 
hi Sashamama, may i know what treatment you have received when IVF under Dr Loh; actually i have almost the same situation like yours, eg adenomyosis (i have went under the knife to removed 5mm of blood tissue), not conducive for pregnancy, and SGH Dr Yu suggested me for adoption and surrogacy....
can share?
 
LuvNhope - the HCG support that you're referring to is the HCG trigger shot is it? I did take that 2 days before ER. I just purchase a HPT kit online. Intend to test a day before my BT to be mentally prepared.

Tromso - Congrats!!! catching your baby dust!! May i know what daily injections are you taking?
 
pinkdoll, no, think some ladies have support in the form of hCG too while others have progesterone if i'm not wrong. Not sure how long the trigger shot hCG wears off too. Think Hazel mentioned this b4. Two weeks? Anyway, since you've decided day b4 BT, go with it!
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Tromso - can share your dos & donts during your 2ww?

LuvNhope - i was given duphaston which is a type of progesterone i think. look forward to BT day
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Sashamama,
If u tested today n got faint line should be bfp since ur last jab is on sun. I got a faint line previously during my 1st pregnancy around the same time. I also use those hpt strip. Then after that ask my hubby to get a clear blue one since I couldn't believe my eyes but guess what? The kit was faulty with the control line darken halfway only so I gave up n waited till BT. Be positive ok?
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Tromso,
Congrats!!!
 
Elaine, me too have retroverted uterus. I also seeing TCM - Ban Choon Chan. 1st visit he also told me retroverted a bit difficult to conceive, 2nd visit he did explain to us which "style" during BD shld avoid in order not to leak out. So he ask us try naturally n work hard.
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He say he got lot patient success just b4 going for IVF. Jiayou...
 
I tried to google from website what is the best position for retroverted uterus. Apparantlt doggy and missionary style is recommended.

However there's different version to whether we shld lie on our back or stomach after sex. Any comments on that?
 
Thank you ladies.

Hi LuvnHope, my hCG level is 3000+
Now just focusing on the upcoming HB scan, hope can clear this stage smoothly.

Eskimobaby, I stayed away from liang food, I order tingkat during 2WW for lunch and prepare simple dinner with lotsa vege and kampong chicken/ fish. I also avoided using the knife throughout 2WW (superstitious), hence got my mum to chop up all the vege and fish/ meat slices kept in containers.

I take about 7 brazil nuts each day, drink daily Ensure milk powder + oatmeal+ bran+ amway protein powder+ immunocal + LRD, organic egg whites and conceive well supplements.

TCM is probably the 1 that helped me most as I was suffering fr bad OHSS after ER, herbs cleared my breathlessness and dizziness immediately and raise my body temperature.

I also avoided carrying heavy things, eg. no ntuc bags, hubby does the pouring of herbs outta herb pot cos it's quite heavy. I wear slippers around the house all the time, wear socks when the day is cool, cover my tummy with a rug almost entire day when I'm home.

I also move about slowly, avoid bending down and raising the arms (advised by TCM dr). I nap daily and go to bed before 11am everyday, stayed home everyday (besides my daily jabs at KKH), to prevent catching viruses/ bacteria from outside, actually getting very super bored at home.

Hope this helps
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Sashamama, I just failed my FET and my menses came 30 days after last menses (i.e., 31 Oct and 1 Dec). Yours is very likely BFP. Good luck!
 


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