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maggiemee22
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HI Ladies... hope all of you enjoy your SUNDAY time with your family! Lets' put aside our worries for awhile and enjoy our times with family!!
Me going to mum's place for dinner later.. so meanwhile juz relax at home...
Me going to mum's place for dinner later.. so meanwhile juz relax at home...
Hello Die and Aris,
You all must jia you !!( brace yourself and be strong)..... get your life back ! That is the word. Exactly !!
Btw, I visited dr Zou yesterday and was reprimanded by her. She says that I am highly anxious and that is not good for conceiving... The thing is even hubby agress with her... but all i did was to ask her am i to do FET with KK or Fresh cycle with NUH. I also want to know the possible reason why my IVF cycle 1 failed.
Now, i am taking her medicine to tiao my body. She is glad that i didn't insist on starting fresh cycle ivf right away..
Develyn... where are you ?...
You are expecting twins under her charge? U are my idol...I am doing FET at the end of the year.
You all must jia you !!( brace yourself and be strong)..... get your life back ! That is the word. Exactly !!
Btw, I visited dr Zou yesterday and was reprimanded by her. She says that I am highly anxious and that is not good for conceiving... The thing is even hubby agress with her... but all i did was to ask her am i to do FET with KK or Fresh cycle with NUH. I also want to know the possible reason why my IVF cycle 1 failed.
Now, i am taking her medicine to tiao my body. She is glad that i didn't insist on starting fresh cycle ivf right away..
Develyn... where are you ?...
You are expecting twins under her charge? U are my idol...I am doing FET at the end of the year.
Cherie and Greenie,
Wow!!! great to hear that both of you are pregressing to next stage. Wish you both smooth ET on Monday. I guess Minnie,ttno2, Dec, sunflower, Fandz, ivftwins and myself will be following behind you all very soon. that's 9 of us in total for 2WW then plus the 4 Ms. btw does anyone know if Miracle is already in 2WW?
Wow!!! great to hear that both of you are pregressing to next stage. Wish you both smooth ET on Monday. I guess Minnie,ttno2, Dec, sunflower, Fandz, ivftwins and myself will be following behind you all very soon. that's 9 of us in total for 2WW then plus the 4 Ms. btw does anyone know if Miracle is already in 2WW?
kudos to all the strong mummies/mummies to be on this thread. I'm very motivated by all your tales of perseverance.
I'm still suffering the effects of OHSS after the ER. Although disappointed, I am a bit relieved that we chose to postpone our ET. Now, I can barely keep any food now and feels bloated, like 5 months pregnant. I think it would be worse if I had proceeded with ET.
I would attempt the FET in another 2 months time. BTW, can any experienced ladies share the FET process again? I assume less jabs to do?
I'm still suffering the effects of OHSS after the ER. Although disappointed, I am a bit relieved that we chose to postpone our ET. Now, I can barely keep any food now and feels bloated, like 5 months pregnant. I think it would be worse if I had proceeded with ET.
I would attempt the FET in another 2 months time. BTW, can any experienced ladies share the FET process again? I assume less jabs to do?
I have only 1 grade 5 embryo and the rest are all grades 3 & 4. Although the doctor consoled me by saying, all are good to transfer, even grade 3, so not to worry. How do you ladies at KK know the details about the grading, and whether it is poor sperm quality or egg quality that causes the grade? Will the doctor share during the review or do we check with the embryologist?
ttc_no2,
Are you back at home now? How many eggs u have that cause the OHSS? FET very straight forward. Just wait for ovalution time then ET then inject/insert the pergestron during 2WW. The embryologist is the one that tells you what grade. If you have qns abt the grade can always ask them.
Are you back at home now? How many eggs u have that cause the OHSS? FET very straight forward. Just wait for ovalution time then ET then inject/insert the pergestron during 2WW. The embryologist is the one that tells you what grade. If you have qns abt the grade can always ask them.
minniestar
Member
Hi Greenie,
I hope I can join you in 2WW too....at the moment I only have 2 eggs that look promising..*SIANz*
Ya, I was the one wearing specs sitting at the inner corner with my DH...I smiled but I think cos I was wearing mask, couldn't see...hee hee
Glad that the pregyl jab no pain for you....I am afraid it might be painful.
All the best to your ER on Monday!
Cherie, all the best for your ET on Monday too!
I hope I can join you in 2WW too....at the moment I only have 2 eggs that look promising..*SIANz*
Ya, I was the one wearing specs sitting at the inner corner with my DH...I smiled but I think cos I was wearing mask, couldn't see...hee hee
Glad that the pregyl jab no pain for you....I am afraid it might be painful.
All the best to your ER on Monday!
Cherie, all the best for your ET on Monday too!
Leobaby,
Yes, we did the chromosome/genetic testing both came back normal.Previously I conceived naturally 4 times. Each time I had spotting either before or not long aft I found out BFP. One of the times, a heartbeat was detected at six weeks than lost at seven weeks. The other 3 times scan revealed pregnancy sac but fetus did not develop(I think they call it blighted ovum).I always spot and bleed despite jabs and medication right up to the D&C. Testing was done on the miscarriage materials but to no conclusion why this is happenning repeatedly. My one side fallopian tube is blocked and husband sperm is low morphology 0-3% normal. Dr cannot determine is it sperm problem, egg problem, embryo or lining problem causing this. As a last resort, we try IVF. Now seems like going to be the same outcome so nothing works for me. Dr cannot confirm until week 6 or 7 scan thats why I am on jabs and all these med..but the meds are just playing tug of war with my menses trying to come. I know my own body as this is the exact same experience the previous 4 times so I know what the outcome will be and I have accepted it..just wish it could be over quickly. I will be considering adoption next but need to go back to work and save up first.
Yes, we did the chromosome/genetic testing both came back normal.Previously I conceived naturally 4 times. Each time I had spotting either before or not long aft I found out BFP. One of the times, a heartbeat was detected at six weeks than lost at seven weeks. The other 3 times scan revealed pregnancy sac but fetus did not develop(I think they call it blighted ovum).I always spot and bleed despite jabs and medication right up to the D&C. Testing was done on the miscarriage materials but to no conclusion why this is happenning repeatedly. My one side fallopian tube is blocked and husband sperm is low morphology 0-3% normal. Dr cannot determine is it sperm problem, egg problem, embryo or lining problem causing this. As a last resort, we try IVF. Now seems like going to be the same outcome so nothing works for me. Dr cannot confirm until week 6 or 7 scan thats why I am on jabs and all these med..but the meds are just playing tug of war with my menses trying to come. I know my own body as this is the exact same experience the previous 4 times so I know what the outcome will be and I have accepted it..just wish it could be over quickly. I will be considering adoption next but need to go back to work and save up first.
maggiemee22
Active Member
Hi Leo... yes miracle is in 2WW but guess she is resting well so hardly appear here..
miracle_baby
Member
Hi Leo Baby
Yup now in 2WW since last Friday.
Hi Maggie
How smart of you to guess I was already in 2WW.
Not well on & off on alternate days. Had to lie on bed alot.
Still feeling very down.. Sadly I lost 7 eggs. Is too many already? Feel like I worked hard for nothing. Only 2 frozen and I had 2 embroys inside me. Total 4 out of 11 retrieved eggs.
I must not think of it anymore. Have to hope for my precious 2 embroys will develop well.
I too hope the same for 3Ms and those going for 2WW soon. Take care!
Yup now in 2WW since last Friday.
Hi Maggie
How smart of you to guess I was already in 2WW.
Not well on & off on alternate days. Had to lie on bed alot.
Still feeling very down.. Sadly I lost 7 eggs. Is too many already? Feel like I worked hard for nothing. Only 2 frozen and I had 2 embroys inside me. Total 4 out of 11 retrieved eggs.
I must not think of it anymore. Have to hope for my precious 2 embroys will develop well.
I too hope the same for 3Ms and those going for 2WW soon. Take care!
miracle_baby
Member
Dear May,Meow & Maggie "3Ms"
When is your BT?
When is your BT?
Hi miraclebaby
dun be sad, I dun even have frozen embies. The remaining 3 didn't make it past d5. So now I visualize the 2 embies in me is developing well. Out of 8 mature eggs, I have 5 fertilized. 2 of good quality, remaining 3 satisfactory.
I feel ok, got lots of food I wanna eat.
no more bloated but just sore boobs.
dun be sad, I dun even have frozen embies. The remaining 3 didn't make it past d5. So now I visualize the 2 embies in me is developing well. Out of 8 mature eggs, I have 5 fertilized. 2 of good quality, remaining 3 satisfactory.
I feel ok, got lots of food I wanna eat.
no more bloated but just sore boobs.Hi cdah,
my ER was done by dr Stephen chew. 1 of my scans were done by him too cos that time prof was away.
Nvr seen his full face before cos he was masked during both times. But I think he is very experienced too cos I didn't have any bleeding after my ER. He is also more patient than prof towards the inter doc.
is his clinic at emerald clinic too? Cos nvr seen his name at nuh prior. But the nurses told me he is very experienced n he has his own group of ivf patients too.
my ER was done by dr Stephen chew. 1 of my scans were done by him too cos that time prof was away.
Nvr seen his full face before cos he was masked during both times. But I think he is very experienced too cos I didn't have any bleeding after my ER. He is also more patient than prof towards the inter doc.
is his clinic at emerald clinic too? Cos nvr seen his name at nuh prior. But the nurses told me he is very experienced n he has his own group of ivf patients too.
greenie_09
New Member
Leo Baby
Thanks.. come soon oh..
Minnie
Don't worry so much.. for sure your eggs will grow tomorrow..and ER on Wednesday for you.
Thanks.. come soon oh..
Minnie
Don't worry so much.. for sure your eggs will grow tomorrow..and ER on Wednesday for you.
greenie_09
New Member
Hi Cherie
I dont have to go for ER already feel bloated.. I have diarrhea for the past 2 days and now no appetitle, tasteless at mouth..
I dont have to go for ER already feel bloated.. I have diarrhea for the past 2 days and now no appetitle, tasteless at mouth..
happyhippo
Member
hi ladies
does anyone here know where i can go for massages that can help you to prep for ivf?
thks
does anyone here know where i can go for massages that can help you to prep for ivf?
thks
Hi babygalore,
Thank you for ur encouragement.i cried when i read wat u wrote.i think women like us who have been hoping/had multiple loss will feel it emotionally.i've never been such a cry baby until now,but i cry silently,when night falls,when the darkness can hide my emotion and tears.
Su_yana,
I agree with u.a loss is a loss,no matter at wat stage.u know,surprisingly,the 2nd loss was a lot easier to cope with.i think the only thing that can kill me again is another stillbirth.somehow,i coped very well with the 2nd loss.i was juz consoled i managed to get preg naturally.but it took 9 mths.it's a long time for a person who has lost a baby.it seemed like eternity.after going thru' a stillbirth,i really mentally prepared myself for the ardous journey ahead.i know i will not slp well until the day my baby is born.and i know,even if my baby is born,i will worry for the baby every day and night.a friend of mine with 2 miscarriages and a successful 3rd preg actually wakes up in the middle of the night juz to make sure her baby is breathing.i can understand her anxiety.
Ladies,
Something interesting...Did anyone watch 'Wombs for rent' on CNA last night(sat night)? hubby and i have disussed the possibility of going thru' surrogacy coz multiple unsuccessful preg may mean my body cannot carry the baby.surrogacy means we can have a child who is genetically ours.our last resort is adoption.we didn't mean to deliberate tune in,but it happened that when hubby turned on the TV,it was on.i've read abt a surrogacy story in the straits time (sat) when a feature report was done.very interesting.it seems like god is trying to tell me something.hubby was very captivated,coz i think deep down inside,he knows we may have to take that route.he was very attentive,like a good student in class.haha.i fought very hard to hold back my tears when i watched the programme.the indian doc said,"when a couple has kids,they will now be invited to weddings etc".how true even in our context.my hubby has been missing out for the past 1 yr coz we lost our baby.can u imagine those sort of friends he has? and on sat,his 'best' buddy (who offered us a HPT kit when his wife got preg with no.2) arranged for dinner.but he didn't go coz he had a party to attend.in the end,i found out the reason his best buddy arranged the dinner was coz his wife and daughter were at United Square attending lessons.so everyone invited to the dinner had to go to united square.how idiotic,right? so it was out of convenience for tis 'best' buddy.i'm glad my hubby didn't go,otherwise it's like slapping oneself in the face.
coincidentally,a couple of days ago,i checked out the indian website for the surrogacy clinic.sigh.is god/nature really trying to tell me something? hubby commented he'll rather do surrogacy than to go thru' IVF.WTF?!?!! surrogacy is almost like IVF.i told him i still have to take jabs to stimulate my egg production and i still have to go thru' the process of egg retrieval.out of all this,i'm still glad i had a chance to progress with the 1st preg until 29 wks.at least i knew how it felt to have a baby move in me,at least i knew how it feels to wear maternity clothes (and i quite enjoyed it!),at least i knew how it feels to have ur tummy grow big,and last of all,at least i knew how it felt to put on wt during preg.haha.
And ladies,i'm so proud of myself for the past 2 days as i could curb the urge to talk to hubby abt ttc again.i'm always the planner.i believe in planning to maximise opputunity.but the talk of ttc always ends up in a quarrel and irritates my hubby.i wanted to ask him when he's keen to try again.but somehow,i managed to hold my tongue.i'm glad there's this forum for me to vent my frustration.at least i can vent my frustration here and cajole my hubby when it's time to get his act together.
someone (i think babygalore) mentioned i should show my hubby this forum.once i have our 1st child,i will.i think if he's human,he'll feel his heart being torn apart.as for IVF,if i do go thru' with it,i really have no faith in him staying by my side during the procedure.i'm so independent,i can even jab myself.i wanted to remove the stitches fr the surgery by myself,but i tot i'll involve him.btw,i'm a dentist,and i remove stitches for my patients,so i can do it by myself either at home/at work.so maybe if i go for IVF,i will let him jab me.then he will feel the pain.i took a jab during preg no.2.WAH! if anyone has a progesterone jab b4,i'm sure u all know.only 20cc,and i was momentarily paralysed.doc wanted to jab me on the butt,i was a bit shy,so i asked y can't jab on arm.he said i won't be able to work if jab on arms.HOW TRUE! and i wished my hubby was there to c me go thru' all this,but i went by myself coz hubby was bz.always so bz.even the doc said my hubby better love me more knowing wat i go thru'.a bystander can see it,and comment on it,but my hubby doesn't feell it.it's really a bit disappointing.sometimes i juz wish my hubby will give up his stubborness and admit that for us,having a child is not easy.1st,it's not easy for us to conceive.2nd,i couldn't keep 2 preg.only then will he throw in all his resources and co-operate.but tonight was good,we actually took a stroll after din.i'm learning how to hold back with all this ttc in front of him,and strike when the time is right.it sounds so bitchy,but i would really like to have a child to call my own.
Thank you for ur encouragement.i cried when i read wat u wrote.i think women like us who have been hoping/had multiple loss will feel it emotionally.i've never been such a cry baby until now,but i cry silently,when night falls,when the darkness can hide my emotion and tears.
Su_yana,
I agree with u.a loss is a loss,no matter at wat stage.u know,surprisingly,the 2nd loss was a lot easier to cope with.i think the only thing that can kill me again is another stillbirth.somehow,i coped very well with the 2nd loss.i was juz consoled i managed to get preg naturally.but it took 9 mths.it's a long time for a person who has lost a baby.it seemed like eternity.after going thru' a stillbirth,i really mentally prepared myself for the ardous journey ahead.i know i will not slp well until the day my baby is born.and i know,even if my baby is born,i will worry for the baby every day and night.a friend of mine with 2 miscarriages and a successful 3rd preg actually wakes up in the middle of the night juz to make sure her baby is breathing.i can understand her anxiety.
Ladies,
Something interesting...Did anyone watch 'Wombs for rent' on CNA last night(sat night)? hubby and i have disussed the possibility of going thru' surrogacy coz multiple unsuccessful preg may mean my body cannot carry the baby.surrogacy means we can have a child who is genetically ours.our last resort is adoption.we didn't mean to deliberate tune in,but it happened that when hubby turned on the TV,it was on.i've read abt a surrogacy story in the straits time (sat) when a feature report was done.very interesting.it seems like god is trying to tell me something.hubby was very captivated,coz i think deep down inside,he knows we may have to take that route.he was very attentive,like a good student in class.haha.i fought very hard to hold back my tears when i watched the programme.the indian doc said,"when a couple has kids,they will now be invited to weddings etc".how true even in our context.my hubby has been missing out for the past 1 yr coz we lost our baby.can u imagine those sort of friends he has? and on sat,his 'best' buddy (who offered us a HPT kit when his wife got preg with no.2) arranged for dinner.but he didn't go coz he had a party to attend.in the end,i found out the reason his best buddy arranged the dinner was coz his wife and daughter were at United Square attending lessons.so everyone invited to the dinner had to go to united square.how idiotic,right? so it was out of convenience for tis 'best' buddy.i'm glad my hubby didn't go,otherwise it's like slapping oneself in the face.
coincidentally,a couple of days ago,i checked out the indian website for the surrogacy clinic.sigh.is god/nature really trying to tell me something? hubby commented he'll rather do surrogacy than to go thru' IVF.WTF?!?!! surrogacy is almost like IVF.i told him i still have to take jabs to stimulate my egg production and i still have to go thru' the process of egg retrieval.out of all this,i'm still glad i had a chance to progress with the 1st preg until 29 wks.at least i knew how it felt to have a baby move in me,at least i knew how it feels to wear maternity clothes (and i quite enjoyed it!),at least i knew how it feels to have ur tummy grow big,and last of all,at least i knew how it felt to put on wt during preg.haha.
And ladies,i'm so proud of myself for the past 2 days as i could curb the urge to talk to hubby abt ttc again.i'm always the planner.i believe in planning to maximise opputunity.but the talk of ttc always ends up in a quarrel and irritates my hubby.i wanted to ask him when he's keen to try again.but somehow,i managed to hold my tongue.i'm glad there's this forum for me to vent my frustration.at least i can vent my frustration here and cajole my hubby when it's time to get his act together.
someone (i think babygalore) mentioned i should show my hubby this forum.once i have our 1st child,i will.i think if he's human,he'll feel his heart being torn apart.as for IVF,if i do go thru' with it,i really have no faith in him staying by my side during the procedure.i'm so independent,i can even jab myself.i wanted to remove the stitches fr the surgery by myself,but i tot i'll involve him.btw,i'm a dentist,and i remove stitches for my patients,so i can do it by myself either at home/at work.so maybe if i go for IVF,i will let him jab me.then he will feel the pain.i took a jab during preg no.2.WAH! if anyone has a progesterone jab b4,i'm sure u all know.only 20cc,and i was momentarily paralysed.doc wanted to jab me on the butt,i was a bit shy,so i asked y can't jab on arm.he said i won't be able to work if jab on arms.HOW TRUE! and i wished my hubby was there to c me go thru' all this,but i went by myself coz hubby was bz.always so bz.even the doc said my hubby better love me more knowing wat i go thru'.a bystander can see it,and comment on it,but my hubby doesn't feell it.it's really a bit disappointing.sometimes i juz wish my hubby will give up his stubborness and admit that for us,having a child is not easy.1st,it's not easy for us to conceive.2nd,i couldn't keep 2 preg.only then will he throw in all his resources and co-operate.but tonight was good,we actually took a stroll after din.i'm learning how to hold back with all this ttc in front of him,and strike when the time is right.it sounds so bitchy,but i would really like to have a child to call my own.
Hi Die,
Aiyoh,u have such a depressing nick.try changing it to something happier.i juz read ur post abt ur 4 miscarriages.
I'm in a similar situation.on both occassion,i managed to conceive naturally,but i'm not sure y my body couldn't protect my babies.esp the 1st one,i carried the baby up till 29 wks.for the 2nd preg,i lost the foetus at 9 wks,it's still 1st trimester,i accept it's natural selection.
have u considered surrogacy? india is a very good place.i've read on some websites and they are very detailed.u can google it.i guess surrogcy means u can have children who are genetically urs.whereas with adoption,the children are not genetically urs.my hubby is very strong on having kids of our own.now that surrogacy is quite socially accepted,u and ur hubby may want to consider it b4 adoption
Aiyoh,u have such a depressing nick.try changing it to something happier.i juz read ur post abt ur 4 miscarriages.
I'm in a similar situation.on both occassion,i managed to conceive naturally,but i'm not sure y my body couldn't protect my babies.esp the 1st one,i carried the baby up till 29 wks.for the 2nd preg,i lost the foetus at 9 wks,it's still 1st trimester,i accept it's natural selection.
have u considered surrogacy? india is a very good place.i've read on some websites and they are very detailed.u can google it.i guess surrogcy means u can have children who are genetically urs.whereas with adoption,the children are not genetically urs.my hubby is very strong on having kids of our own.now that surrogacy is quite socially accepted,u and ur hubby may want to consider it b4 adoption
Dear Leo baby
today is my day 4 puregon with kk, Dr Loh. so far no obvious side effects except with some gastric at times. is drnking ensure so far.going for scan on thurs. when is your scan?
Monster, the surrogacy procedure is very expensive from what i gathered. on top of the IVF injection cost,you have to pay a sum of money like $10-15k to the indian surrogate mother for carryinkg 9 months for you. (on top of the IVF cost)...unless you are very rich, of course its a good idea.
just my 2 cents worth
today is my day 4 puregon with kk, Dr Loh. so far no obvious side effects except with some gastric at times. is drnking ensure so far.going for scan on thurs. when is your scan?
Monster, the surrogacy procedure is very expensive from what i gathered. on top of the IVF injection cost,you have to pay a sum of money like $10-15k to the indian surrogate mother for carryinkg 9 months for you. (on top of the IVF cost)...unless you are very rich, of course its a good idea.
just my 2 cents worth
mayleo2000
New Member
hi miracle baby, my BT is also on 31 aug, same at meow. when's yours?
wish the best of luck to those who r going for their ER & ET!!
wish the best of luck to those who r going for their ER & ET!!
Die
I am so sorry to hear about your situation. I wanted to let you know, if you have recurrent miscarriages, you might want to check out and see if you have any autoimmune problem. I live in the US, and over here in the very good clinics like Sher and CCRM, they would definitely check you out to see if you have antibodies such as Natural Killer cells that attacks the system and prevents a successful pregnancy. Dr Alan Beers from the US is a pioneer thinker in that area. You can google and find out more details on this if you are interested. The only problem though is I believe in Singapore, its hard to get doctors to listen to this theory. Their focus tends to be more narrow. Hang in there!
I am so sorry to hear about your situation. I wanted to let you know, if you have recurrent miscarriages, you might want to check out and see if you have any autoimmune problem. I live in the US, and over here in the very good clinics like Sher and CCRM, they would definitely check you out to see if you have antibodies such as Natural Killer cells that attacks the system and prevents a successful pregnancy. Dr Alan Beers from the US is a pioneer thinker in that area. You can google and find out more details on this if you are interested. The only problem though is I believe in Singapore, its hard to get doctors to listen to this theory. Their focus tends to be more narrow. Hang in there!
maggiemee22
Active Member
HI Miracle... My BT is on 2 sept.. so 2 days aft meow n May.... crossing fingers all the way...
Hi Judebabe,
I m here.. u have msn or fb ? U can add me...
Hi Die/Meow/Fatbabe/Greenie/Sunflower ,
How r all of u getting along ?
Juz remember to jia you... IVF is not an easy process.. but it makes u stronger on every stage.. soon u all will be mother to be n next a mummy too.. my journey is a roller coaster too.. but we juz have to bite the bullets n go !! =)
I m here.. u have msn or fb ? U can add me...
Hi Die/Meow/Fatbabe/Greenie/Sunflower ,
How r all of u getting along ?
Juz remember to jia you... IVF is not an easy process.. but it makes u stronger on every stage.. soon u all will be mother to be n next a mummy too.. my journey is a roller coaster too.. but we juz have to bite the bullets n go !! =)