IVF/ICSI Support Group

Thank you sunflower. Dunno why but my emotions are like roller coaster rides these few days.... not sure if it's the hormones acting up. I'll be starting stimulation sometime early May.
 


WK,

oic.. so many hormones we need to take note..haix..one may be improved, the other may be rising, hard to satisfy our own hormones.. yup, just started 2ww..
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Daffodils,

maybe your menses reporting soon?
 
Thanks Baby for your reply. I've actually been on TCM for a few years now to improve my immunity and it did help my follicles to grow to optimum size for ovulation. Before that my follicles do not grow big enough.... not sure if any of you has that problem.

Kymmie, prior to our IVF attempts, we tried IUI (I think close to 4 times over a few years) despite the hospital's recommendaiton to head straight to IVF, cos we wanted to go for the cheaper option first. Back then the diagnosis was perhaps I wasn't ovulating although I was having my menses on the dot every month and the sperm prognosis was similar to that of your hubby's. No reason was given for the failure, except that perhaps my eggs were not good enough.

I dun see any harm in trying IUI if you really wish to now, just dun try too many times like we did as it's costly too. .... but on hind sight I think we should have gone straight to IVF, while I was still in my mid-30s, and if there was any problem w me, it would have been better for me to address it back then while I was younger and the chances would have been better, even if it's small.That's what Dr Loh said to me pertaining having a endometriosis surgery in when I was 35 instead of now.

In any case, you have until July to discuss w your husband and decide.
 
Thanks Liby.

Have been reading and found lots of useful info. Can't help feeling that my last ivf cycle would have been successful if I had discovered this forum earlier.... anyway, will try to be as strong as the ladies here.
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Itjabi, I did my polyps op in Feb. 1 month before I started IVF.

Serene, I told Dr Loh that for thw whole IVF process, only the high dosage of puregon I cannot tahan. Too painful for me and he say no choice. If you can, try to exercise more frequently before you start your puregon injection.

WK Yoo, BT is a must when undergoing IVF. So not my choice to take or not. But I am fine with injection for BT as I don't find it painful. So far based on my existing results, the main problems I have now is 1 blocked tube & high FSH. The rest of my results seem fine as I am ovulating well with regular mense. At this stage, my mentality is I won't keep continuing with IVF if still no god news after maybe another 2-3 tries. Cos it is for me to take long leave, even for 1 week MC.

juju78, it really depends on individuals. Having baby may be my top few priorities now but not my top priority yet. Somemore I am the type who cannot tahan without a job. If have children, then quit job is fine. Time will be spent in taking care of the baby and it is worth it. But definitely a "no no" to quit job just to concentrate on IVF or baby planning. Cos I will never know when I will strike. Better to have a job to keep myself occupied
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I believe you got tell your boss you are going for IVF right? I think if I were to tell my boss, he will understand too. But I am not comfortable letting my colleagues, including my boss know that I am going through IVF as there will be stress when the cycle failed. Everyone will keep asking one after another non-stop.. No point give myself unnecessary stress. Peace at work is the best *wink wink*

libby, that is very encouraging indeed
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Thanks for sharing.. by the way, is it not advisable to exercise straight after a failed cycle? I suddenly feel very weak after exercising just now.. hmmm.. planning to go jogging tomorrow morning. Then prepare some chicken soup to drink.

Hazel, so far for my previous visits to Dr LC Cheng at thomson, he mentioned that my follicles grow well to good sizes for ovulation. He also mentioned that the shape of my uterus is good, lining is good also.. So I thought only problem is my blocked tube. But now that I understand on FSH, I think I don't have many follicles last time during scanning. And I also don't know if my eggs are good or not also. Think difficult to know the quality of the eggs.

Ling, Daffodils,
Welcome to the thread
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hi Ling, Daffodils, Hazel and kymmie
welcome to tis thread
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hi daffodils
when u be starting ur ivf? at which ivf centre?

hi kymmie
since both of u all results are quite ok..maybe u can discuss with dr loh, will IUI oso be a gd choice?

hi ling
dun worries..many of us include me only start knowing tis forum at the end of my gonal f injection.. and i shd say i m glad i foung tis forum cos u actually knowing each ivf centre practices , diff medicatons, and charges..so u can compare and pose questons eventually to ur gynae which i did ....hehe...
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hi ladies
just came back from work at 1130pm jus now, wat a busy day today and somehow became a bit disorientated after a long long HL since 5/3..
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and guess wat i had done sth in my workplace was i asked my colleagues to take blood for me, and i went to A&E dept to register my name in order to get a dr's order to order HCG BT for me.. reason is i wan to find out whether my hcg level had went down completely or not after the last friday drop.... and 1 hr later, the A&E dr went up and look for me and told me my hcg result is less than 25 liao which i do have a good relief...
so my next plan is to wait after my AF report tis month and start to embark lose weight program in May till august..;)

hi baby and juju
thanks for letting me know the kkh charges..
 
Hi baby,

Wow may i know which tcm u are with? heehee cos she sounds like the one i visit in hougang previously. The one in Hougang also many young couples seeing her and my mil recommended say she is very gd with fertility, but me and hb find her very traditional thinking and not very open with ivf. She's quite nice and charges are much cheaper than Dr Zou just tat she dun do acupucture tats why i switch doc lor.
 
Hi baby,

Altho i dun have blocked tube but my left tube is scarred cos 3yrs ago they did a incision on it to remove the foetus it it (ectopic pregnancy) and also with my serious endo condition and scarring tissue tats also one of the reason why dr loh recommended ivf as he finds that iui and so-iui is a waste of time and $$$.
 
Hi baby,

Hehee my appt with Dr loh is next saturday. I'll have alot of qns for him cos till now didn't know abt the grade of my embies etc. Will update you.

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Hi Baby,

Maybe you can try to take couple of mths of unpaid leaves? This may also be another alternative and will lessen your stress level on what excuse to give to your boss. However, it will also depend on the company.
For me, I've finally pick up my courage to inform my direct boss that I wanted to request for 1 yr unpaid leaves to try babies. Currently, pending for approval from HOD and HR.
I've failed IVF last mth and have made my 1st visit to Dr Zou yesterday night. I plan to tiao my body before trying again.
BTW, what is FET and OHSS?
 
Hi Yong Wei & Richard,

I've finally went to see Dr Zou yesterday with my hubby. According to her, I will never conceive natually or IUI. IVF is our only chance. She has also mentioned that i'm only 33 this yr and it is quite a rare case when i told her that my doc said that my eggs are aging and need to do IVF within these 2 yrs. If not, I will run out of eggs soon.
The acupuncture is different from what we did in Raffles Hospital. I've done about almost 1 hr acupunture (front & back).
I will go back again on Wed evening to do acupunture.

Hi Ladies,

Any ladies going to do acupunture at Dr Zou's clinic on next Wednesday evening? Understand that she will come back in the evening to do acupunture for those who are preparing to do IVF in the next couple of days.

I would like to say hello to you.

I saw 2 ladies at Dr Zou's clinic around 8pm yesterday and wondering if they are also from this thread. I've got a strong feeling that they are but i've got no courage to ask...heheheh...
 
Hi Yong Wei & TNT,

The thread is too fast...busy with work....didn't log in for more than a week...

Glad to hear that both of you made it.

Congratulations!. Eat well and rest well
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Hi All,

I just have a failed IVF last mth and my menses is late this mth by a week plus. Is it normal to have a late menses after a failed IVF? Kindly advise...Thanks many2!
 
Hi babydremzy,

Yes, your menses will go abit haywire as the hormones is still in your body. It has not totally flush out yet. If you have been injecting the crinone gel and if it does not absorb properly during 2ww, you may also experience a lump of it coming out if you exert too much strength when u da pian.
 
Baby
I think swimming will be the best exercise as it is low impact, would you like to try this than jogging for time being?

Babydreamzy
After my failed IVF, my menses is late for 2 months, so that is still normal.

Nesnes
Good to tiao your body first, and embark on new journey. Good luck to you.

TNT
Glad to hear your BT is back to normal. Take Care..
 
baby
eh, i only cry when i am sad/scare, not when i am happy... i am anxious b4 the scan, i scared the dr told me something no good... i think we will always be anxious / worried until we see the bb f2f cos IVF baby is more fragile and of course very precious!
u must continue to jia you, ok!
 
Thanks NesNes for the reply. I thot so too. I guess i shd just have to wait for it to come. Was intending to do 2nd IVF this mth but since it is late and heywire..i shall maybe wait till next mth.

How long does shd we wait before embarking on the next IVF again?
 
juju, are you resting at home or working now since u r at 36w already? must be very excited lor... a few more weeks and u can see the bb liao. wish u a smooth delivery
 
WOW, the thread is so long.. haha..

Sunflower,

Normally purgeon they can push max up to 2 weeks to increase the size of the eggs.. they will give normal dosage until the last 4 days they will boost up the level of purgeon. If the Doc as IVF side say cannot, you can ask them to seek Dr Loh's advise on the spot. You can choose to boost further if still within the 2 weeks frame. Normally I will ask them to seek Dr Loh's advise then decide. Cause the IVF side after 1 week, if your egg still about 13-15mm, they will ask you to abort.. that's what happen to my first cycle. My second cycle I insisted to ask Dr Loh and I continue and manage to take our 4 eggs.. give it a shot...

Now resting feeling quite weak. Seeing the TCM next week as menses stop liao...tio body back first then see Dr loh the following week to ask all I want to ask...
 
just to share, my gynae recommended us to go IVF straight and not IUI after 3-4 cycles of unsuccessful clomid because my left tube could not be unblocked tho my septum has been removed successfully + my hubby sperm quality not so good. she said usually if the problem lies only on one party, IUI will be recommended... for our case, it will be a waste of $$
 
Babydreamzy
Ya.. super long. last time period will come between 30 to 36 days usually lor.

Humbug/Chris
Rem to write down all you want to ask, else on day itself may forget.
 
Hi libby,

Thanks. hehee. This time round hb going with me so will be better cos i absent-minded always forget to ask then go home liao remember, too late liao. Yup got alot of qns to ask such as quality of embies, why icsi, when to start fet...etc Btw libby, are you same like me quit job to make babies ???


Baby,
My menses very little, normal flow leh.. no cramps..I had cramps for 3 days b4 BT. My gastric better now, no more nausea
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Hmmm i maybe going back to Dr Zou next week. How abt you, when are you going?
 
Hi humbug,baby

After ur menses have ended u may consider taking 八珍 to "tio" ur body as it consists of 8 kinds of herbs such as dang gui etc. U can buy it from as Eu Yan Seng or neighbourhood medical halls. U can add an egg and maybe meat/chicken to brew together. It's suppose to be very gd as it helps to strengthen our body and makeup for all the blood loss.
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Chris
Ya.. after 1st failed cycle, quit my job for FET. But still failed.

Gals
I've confirmed with nurse ytd, she said for ICSI, additional $600.
 
Bee
Cannot compare between private and govt hosp. Last time at care also cost more than $1K. Think is for all eggs right?
 
<font color="0000ff">Hello gals, for those who had taken Lucrin jabs b4, how many days yr menses started to arrive after u started on e Lucrin jabs? My menses arrived today, jus over a week since I started on my Lucrin jabs.

Libby, i tink yr menses came 16 days after u started yr Lucrin jabs rite? Then my menses really came very early than others lor. My usual cycle is 26-28 days.

Not sure if my menses came earlier than others, probably kk wun stretch my Lucrin jabs till 3 weeks jus like wat happen to other gals? I hope my Lucrin jabs remain as 14 days so tat i can quickly start on my Puregon jabs.</font>
 
chris: U had bleeding when u were on the pills during ur 2ww rite? did u ask nurse y u had bleeding?N did u have crampings throughout ur 2ww or onli the last part?
 
Equin0x
My menses for last month was 36 days, this time round during lucrin jab also 36 days. When is your D14 scan at KKH? think if your menses come before D14, they might ask you to start puregon early.

Itjabi
How you feeling today?
 
Chris, not the same cos mine is at Novena there.
But my friend changed to see the TCM at Hougang after she managed to conceive her 1st child as the TCM at Novena always super long wait. And she got pregnant 2 times after seeing TCM at hougang for few years liao to tiao her body. Now she got 3 children liao. I think hougang one is also good. My friend got ask me to consider seeing the hougang one also but I never try.
 
tnt, my hubby say so far we have only pay cash for the BT and our 1st purchase of lucrin. That's all. The rest all pay through medisave and govt grant.
 
Chris, I don't know how the hougang TCM works but my friend has been taking taking herbs for years with her. No accup done for her case. She conceived naturally after seeing these 2 TCM. Very lucky for her as gynae has confirmed that she is unable to conceive naturally. So sometimes I fel that TCM is good.. very confusing also.. I think really depends on individuals' baby luck.
 
NesNes, I am unable to apply for unpaid leave. My boss won't allow one. I will see how..
How come Dr Zou say you are unable to conceive naturally?

babydreamzy, I read before from this thread that some ladies did have late mense after the failed cycle. So I think it is normal.

libby, I don't know how to swim leh
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Your mense late for 2 months ah.. very long leh. So that means for that 2 months, you did not ovulate right? Your mense is regular every month type?

bee, I weeped when I am too happy sometimes.. haha..

Humbug, your mense stop already? I am still having spotting.

Chris, Humbug, yes do jot down what you want to ask. Actually I have a lot of doubts to clarify but forgot most when I see Dr Loh.. sigh...
 
Baby
I also don't know if I ovulate that time.. I only hope my menses come quickly, at least after 2 AF, then I can start a new cycle.
 
<font color="0000ff">Libby, so yr menses came on the 16th day since u started on yr Lucrin jabs? My menses came today, day 8 after I started on my Lucrin jabs. So did KK extend yr Lucrin jabs to 3 weeks b4 tey started u on e Puregon stage?</font>
 
Equin0x
You are right, my menses came on 16th day of Lucrin jab. So, on my day 14 scan, they told me to extend 1 more week, to see them on day 21th. My puregon start on day 23th of lucrin jab. I guess you shd be able to start on day 14-16..
 
Hi Babydreamzy,

Maybe another few mths, I guess. For my case, doctor said that my eggs are not good and slow in developing multiple cells. Therefore, I've to tiao my body at TCM before embarking the next IVF. I'm prepare to do another IVF until Dr Zou gives me the green light.
Therefore, I guess it depends on case to case basis. You may want to find out with Dr what's went wrong in the IVF if the Dr is able to tell you. Then you may want to access from there how and when to embark on the next IVF.

Hi Libby,
Thank you for introducing Dr Zou to me
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Hi Baby,
I've got entrometriosis for the 3rd time which is considered very fierce and my hubby's sperm is bad too. Therefore, she said IVF is our only hope and chance. I've heard alot of negatives remarks but still keep on going
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failure after failure
Hoping that my company will allow me to go for unpaid leaves for 1 yr. Just wanna to try while I still can and don't wanna to regret it later. If I've tried my utmost best and still don't have then no choice lor. Have to accept it. At least I tried. Try for 1 yr then if don't have, go back to work and concentrate on career path liao.
 
Hi humbug,

but my first scan was done by Dr Loh, he was the one who told me the rest couldnt catch up with the big follicle leh..so he say there is no need to increase. i think by D8 may be too late for some of us if the first runner already too far away from the rest.

Hi baby,

the hougang one isit this address?

Teck Chua Medical Hall
Ms Tan S.L
Hougang Ave 5 Blk 322 #01-84
tel: 62810373 (call to make appt)
hours: tues/thur 6-9pm; sat 2-5pm
 
NesNes, don't lose hope with all the -ve remarks. My friend also very upset when the gynae told her she is unable to conceive at all. But after seeing TCM for a few years, she got 3 children now. So keep your hope high.

I think staying away from work is good for baby making. At least no stress from work while trying. But I am not as courage as you. Although I thought of resigning my job to concentrate on baby making, but I don't have the courage to do so. I cannot imagine myself staying at home everyday, very bored and no income.
 
Chris, I also not sure of the exact address as I don't have the intention to go to that TCM. But let me check with my friend again and I let you know again
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libby, so if my mense don't come next time, I also cannot start my FET. In that case I just relax for this month and don't bother too much bah. Wait till my mense come then I start to think how to explain to my boss for the MC again.
 


Hi Baby,

Initially, I don't have the courage too. I've been considering for about 2 weeks after the failed IVF late last mth. Same like you, I'm afraid that after resigning my job, there is no guarantee that I will conceive. No job no baby in the end. During 2ww, i felt so bored and can't keep still in bed. I've started moving around house after 2 days (ET) and feeling bored after 4th day. I feel heart pain for the lost of my income too. Need to change my lifestyle for this 1 yr if company approved as expenses will continue while income has stopped.
BTW, I've also told my boss yesterday only...suddenly dying to have babies thought that made me plick my courage to inform her of my request.
So Baby, JIA YOU!
 

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