IVF/ICSI Support Group

Eneres

New Member
I’m on d12p5dt and 2 days later will be my blood test. However I’m experiencing spotting now brown red when wipe and on a liner. My menses is supposed to be due ytd. Use the watson kit to check ytd is negative. Is this my menses or implantation bleeding? Cos day 12 seems very late for implantation to happen.
both of my fails are like this. I also started with spotting before bleeding heavily on 13d or 14d. both ended up in chemical. but brown usually is old blood leaving the uterus, spotting is also common during BFP. do wait for the BT for more accuracy! think positive and good luck!
 


risther

Active Member
both of my fails are like this. I also started with spotting before bleeding heavily on 13d or 14d. both ended up in chemical. but brown usually is old blood leaving the uterus, spotting is also common during BFP. do wait for the BT for more accuracy! think positive and good luck!
Thank u dear! My normal menses also begin with spotting for few days then AF. Already mentally accepted the failed cycle but will continue frozen next after a small break. Baby dust to u too if u r trying now!
 

Salgoodies

Member
Hello everyone! It's been a while since I log on to the forum.

Had a failed IVF ( all 4 oocytes failed to fertilise - disintegrated upon ICSI) in Oct last year. Wanted to do IVF in Feb 2020 but CoVid happened. In Mar, got pregnant naturally for the first time in 38 years! Unfortunately resulted in ectopic pregnancy.

Did IVF cycle in Nov, only 5 oocytes retrieved, 2 failed to mature, out of 3 matured, 1 failed to fertilise, out of 2 fertilised embryos, one was a "giant embryo" which apparently had extra chromosomes. So left with 1 very good embryo which was "growing beautifully".

Day 3 post ER, embryo was 10 cells, on its way to blastocyst so we did a ET. Everything went smoothly and now I am on my tww.

We have never gotten this far in IVF before and so I am trying to be calm, and stress free (so hard!). I am given Endometrin 200mg vaginal inserts × 3 times daily. Biweekly, I have to inject Proluton 250mg in my butt.

With all these progesterone, I have backache, tender breasts, sensitive nipples and so hormonal

I have always worn socks to sleep, especially after the first pregnancy and today have given up coffee (I'm an addict!) Plus trying to eat clean.

Anyone else going for the tww?

*3dp3dt*
 

Ms Soh

Member
Hi ladies,

I did transfer last Friday (4 Dec) as of today I feel sleepy, tired easily, keep yawning while I was driving, gets hungry also..i feel bloated n slight cramp here n there at the lower tummy. Having sore boobs also . I keep going to toilet to pee also. I didn’t really bed rest this time round n went for slow morning walk for 30 mins. Is this normal or am I thinking too much?
Thank u for the advice !!!
 

Ms Soh

Member
Hello everyone! It's been a while since I log on to the forum.

Had a failed IVF ( all 4 oocytes failed to fertilise - disintegrated upon ICSI) in Oct last year. Wanted to do IVF in Feb 2020 but CoVid happened. In Mar, got pregnant naturally for the first time in 38 years! Unfortunately resulted in ectopic pregnancy.

Did IVF cycle in Nov, only 5 oocytes retrieved, 2 failed to mature, out of 3 matured, 1 failed to fertilise, out of 2 fertilised embryos, one was a "giant embryo" which apparently had extra chromosomes. So left with 1 very good embryo which was "growing beautifully".

Day 3 post ER, embryo was 10 cells, on its way to blastocyst so we did a ET. Everything went smoothly and now I am on my tww.

We have never gotten this far in IVF before and so I am trying to be calm, and stress free (so hard!). I am given Endometrin 200mg vaginal inserts × 3 times daily. Biweekly, I have to inject Proluton 250mg in my butt.

With all these progesterone, I have backache, tender breasts, sensitive nipples and so hormonal

I have always worn socks to sleep, especially after the first pregnancy and today have given up coffee (I'm an addict!) Plus trying to eat clean.

Anyone else going for the tww?

*3dp3dt*
Me!!! All the best to u too!!
 

risther

Active Member
Hello everyone! It's been a while since I log on to the forum.

Had a failed IVF ( all 4 oocytes failed to fertilise - disintegrated upon ICSI) in Oct last year. Wanted to do IVF in Feb 2020 but CoVid happened. In Mar, got pregnant naturally for the first time in 38 years! Unfortunately resulted in ectopic pregnancy.

Did IVF cycle in Nov, only 5 oocytes retrieved, 2 failed to mature, out of 3 matured, 1 failed to fertilise, out of 2 fertilised embryos, one was a "giant embryo" which apparently had extra chromosomes. So left with 1 very good embryo which was "growing beautifully".

Day 3 post ER, embryo was 10 cells, on its way to blastocyst so we did a ET. Everything went smoothly and now I am on my tww.

We have never gotten this far in IVF before and so I am trying to be calm, and stress free (so hard!). I am given Endometrin 200mg vaginal inserts × 3 times daily. Biweekly, I have to inject Proluton 250mg in my butt.

With all these progesterone, I have backache, tender breasts, sensitive nipples and so hormonal

I have always worn socks to sleep, especially after the first pregnancy and today have given up coffee (I'm an addict!) Plus trying to eat clean.

Anyone else going for the tww?

*3dp3dt*
Baby dust to u!!!
Tomorrow is my blood test I got spotting and period cramps yesterday though.

Just chill & have ample rest with a nutritious diet. All the best to u dear!
 

JOJO_POS

Member
Hello everyone! It's been a while since I log on to the forum.

Had a failed IVF ( all 4 oocytes failed to fertilise - disintegrated upon ICSI) in Oct last year. Wanted to do IVF in Feb 2020 but CoVid happened. In Mar, got pregnant naturally for the first time in 38 years! Unfortunately resulted in ectopic pregnancy.

Did IVF cycle in Nov, only 5 oocytes retrieved, 2 failed to mature, out of 3 matured, 1 failed to fertilise, out of 2 fertilised embryos, one was a "giant embryo" which apparently had extra chromosomes. So left with 1 very good embryo which was "growing beautifully".

Day 3 post ER, embryo was 10 cells, on its way to blastocyst so we did a ET. Everything went smoothly and now I am on my tww.

We have never gotten this far in IVF before and so I am trying to be calm, and stress free (so hard!). I am given Endometrin 200mg vaginal inserts × 3 times daily. Biweekly, I have to inject Proluton 250mg in my butt.

With all these progesterone, I have backache, tender breasts, sensitive nipples and so hormonal

I have always worn socks to sleep, especially after the first pregnancy and today have given up coffee (I'm an addict!) Plus trying to eat clean.

Anyone else going for the tww?

*3dp3dt*
Can I ask why need to inject Proluton 250mg in the butt? I only asked to take vaginal inserts x 3 times a day and oral progynova x 2 times a day.
 

Uptheair

Active Member
Hi ladies,

I did transfer last Friday (4 Dec) as of today I feel sleepy, tired easily, keep yawning while I was driving, gets hungry also..i feel bloated n slight cramp here n there at the lower tummy. Having sore boobs also . I keep going to toilet to pee also. I didn’t really bed rest this time round n went for slow morning walk for 30 mins. Is this normal or am I thinking too much?
Thank u for the advice !!!
The symptoms are totally normal because of the progesterone pills. It is too early to feel any symptoms actually. But good luck!
 
Hi ladies, is it possible to ovulate but not detect smiley face on clearblue OPK? I have this issue about twice so far this year... other months can detect the smiley face... does it mean 2 months didn’t ovulate? Thank you
 
Hihi, can i check anyone taking the Cheong Kwan Jang red ginseng with pomegranate to help with the lining during IVF? instead of taking those pokka pomegranate juice (i think is too sweet).

pls advise
 

Apple05

Member
Hi ladies, I am on my 2WW. Currently 7dp5dt and today I have brown discharge. Am wondering is it the old blood from implantation bleeding or my mens is coming? My blood test is on 11dp5dt. Tks!
 

Ms Soh

Member
Hi ladies, I am on my 2WW. Currently 7dp5dt and today I have brown discharge. Am wondering is it the old blood from implantation bleeding or my mens is coming? My blood test is on 11dp5dt. Tks!
Hi, I’m currently 7dp5dt. Had light spotting (staining ) yesterday also. Called clinic n doc asked me back for support jab. He mentioned it’s too early for menses to come anyway. Maybe u want to call the clinic or hospital to check ? I’m feeling nausea also dunno if it’s from the medication.
 

Apple05

Member
Hi, I’m currently 7dp5dt. Had light spotting (staining ) yesterday also. Called clinic n doc asked me back for support jab. He mentioned it’s too early for menses to come anyway. Maybe u want to call the clinic or hospital to check ? I’m feeling nausea also dunno if it’s from the medication.
Thanks for your reply! Based on the instructions given to me (govt hospital) not required to call the clinic, it states bleeding could be implantation or period is coming so no need to panic. :( I only have mild cramps. My previous 3 transfers no brown discharge unlike this transfer. I am quite worried.

U r with private clinic? When is ur blood test?
 
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Ms Soh

Member
Thanks for your reply! Based on the instructions given to me (govt hospital) not required to call the clinic, it states bleeding could be implantation or period is coming so no need to panic. :( I only have mild cramps. My previous 3 transfers no brown discharge unlike this transfer. I am quite worried.

U r with private clinic? When is ur blood test?
Yes. With private clinic. Blood test next Thursday .
 

risther

Active Member
I have failed 2 fresh transfers with good lining but not sure why implantation did not happen. Can anyone advise what tests u do after this to check on possible implantation failure? Thanks!
 

Apple05

Member
I have failed 2 fresh transfers with good lining but not sure why implantation did not happen. Can anyone advise what tests u do after this to check on possible implantation failure? Thanks!
I have failed 1 fresh cycle (3 transfers). Currently on my 2nd cycle, 10dp5dt. Just tested postive on my home pregnancy test kit (day 6 blasts grade BB) Waiting for blood test to confirm tomorrow. For my 3 failed blastocysts transfers, Dr said my uterus not receptive so even my good quality can't implant. She suggested embryo gen and blastgen (something like gel glue for the embryo to implant) to be added in my 2nd cycle. I guess is working? U can try asking ur Dr?
 
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Uptheair

Active Member
I have failed 2 fresh transfers with good lining but not sure why implantation did not happen. Can anyone advise what tests u do after this to check on possible implantation failure? Thanks!
Sometimes it could be an issue with embryo quality, uterus condition, body and health issues or maybe just luck. There could also be a combination of factors so I am not sure if you or your doctor have any idea what to start checking with?
I also failed 2 transfers with good lining previously, only to succeed on my third with twins. My first round was bad embryo quality, second I believe was non-readiness of uterus condition because I bled quite some amount after ER and did a fresh transfer that same cycle despite using good embryos. So both transfers had different reasons for that failed cycle.
Maybe for a start, check with your doctor and embryologist what issues do they suspect?
 

Advika

Member
I have failed 1 fresh cycle (3 transfers). Currently on my 2nd cycle, 10dp5dt. Just tested postive on my home pregnancy test kit (day 6 blasts grade BB) Waiting for blood test to confirm tomorrow. For my 3 failed blastocysts transfers, Dr said my uterus not receptive so even my good quality can't implant. She suggested embryo gen and blastgen (something like gel glue for the embryo to implant) to be added in my 2nd cycle. I guess is working? U can try asking ur Dr?
May I know which doctor you are with?
 

Ms Soh

Member
Hi ladies, is it possible to ovulate but not detect smiley face on clearblue OPK? I have this issue about twice so far this year... other months can detect the smiley face... does it mean 2 months didn’t ovulate? Thank you
I have failed 1 fresh cycle (3 transfers). Currently on my 2nd cycle, 10dp5dt. Just tested postive on my home pregnancy test kit (day 6 blasts grade BB) Waiting for blood test to confirm tomorrow. For my 3 failed blastocysts transfers, Dr said my uterus not receptive so even my good quality can't implant. She suggested embryo gen and blastgen (something like gel glue for the embryo to implant) to be added in my 2nd cycle. I guess is working? U can try asking ur Dr?
congrats !!! Do u have any symptoms ?
 

risther

Active Member
I have failed 1 fresh cycle (3 transfers). Currently on my 2nd cycle, 10dp5dt. Just tested postive on my home pregnancy test kit (day 6 blasts grade BB) Waiting for blood test to confirm tomorrow. For my 3 failed blastocysts transfers, Dr said my uterus not receptive so even my good quality can't implant. She suggested embryo gen and blastgen (something like gel glue for the embryo to implant) to be added in my 2nd cycle. I guess is working? U can try asking ur Dr?
Which clinic are u with? I’m with KK doubt they have such service.
 

Happy001

Member
Hi, I just did a frozen transfer on Saturday, but now having flu n cough, any flu medicine to eat? I am allergic to Panadol. Can I eat the yellow sleepy flu medicine, chloramine, during this 2ww?
 
Hi, I just did a frozen transfer on Saturday, but now having flu n cough, any flu medicine to eat? I am allergic to Panadol. Can I eat the yellow sleepy flu medicine, chloramine, during this 2ww?
better check with GP, telling them that you just did the transfer.

Pls take plenty of rest.
 
Hey girls,
So Aunt Flo visited me after 67days after my last unsuccessful IVF.
This is the longest I have missed my period.
I had spotting around the 30th day. Took a test around 35th day but not pregnant.
I have been taking my basal temperature since my last cycle and prior to this flow; for two weeks my basal temperature had been on a high side (35.5•c - 36.8•c) which I thought, “Hey, maybe I’m getting pregnant naturally?”.
I had symptoms like sore boobs, bloated and fatigue but this morning my temperature dropped to 36.2•c and my flow started.

- Should I still take a pregnancy test? I don’t have the test at home currently. Any advice?

- That two weeks of high, does it mean that my egg have been fertilised but failed to implant? Anyone knows?

Feeling a tiny little bit shitty with the cramps and waste of time. Haha.
 

Blurple

Member
Hi ladies, I’m going to have my 2nd FET next month. My 1st was a natural FET, but it was a failed cycle. For my 2nd FET, I opted for medicated FET, cos natural FET is too tiring and stress for me. Would like to know what will the procedure be for medicated FET? I’m with kkivf by the way.
 
Hi Ladies,

I’m currently in my 2ww since last Friday (11 Dec) from a FET cycle. It was my only FE left after my 2nd fresh cycle in April’20. It’s a C grade blastocyst but I believe the genes are more important cos though I managed to get pregnant during the fresh cycle with a B grade blastocyst, it ended up in a MC at 7 weeks. Seemed like it is getting more difficult than the first fresh cycle when I managed to conceive on the first round and gave birth to a healthy baby boy.

So now it’s about 7dp the FET but no obvious symptoms at all. No spotting or cramps.. I wonder if anyone had such experience before, whether is it normal. Cos the last fresh cycle, I had spotting since day 6 till even after BT.. This time round it just feel totally normal, no discomfort at all.

Sometimes I think I am so paranoid.. like the last round when I had spotting, I worried, now when there is nothing I also worried.. lol..

My BT is on 24 Dec next week at Kkh.
 
Feeling defeated. Did my 5th fresh and today is blood test day. Hcg is negative.
After so many rounds, I am no longer as optimistic as I just started out to be. This retrieval was my worse with only 5 eggs, 3 mature and 1 fertilized.

A lot of people I have seen on the forum has since graduated and I am still right where I started. No longer have the courage to try but maybe when I feel ready again I will go for my last frozen egg.

I probably will plan for a life with no kids but it’s still a bitter pill to swallow after all the tcm, acupuncture and supplements.
 

connie_hopeful

Well-Known Member
Feeling defeated. Did my 5th fresh and today is blood test day. Hcg is negative.
After so many rounds, I am no longer as optimistic as I just started out to be. This retrieval was my worse with only 5 eggs, 3 mature and 1 fertilized.

A lot of people I have seen on the forum has since graduated and I am still right where I started. No longer have the courage to try but maybe when I feel ready again I will go for my last frozen egg.

I probably will plan for a life with no kids but it’s still a bitter pill to swallow after all the tcm, acupuncture and supplements.
Hi, just coming in to root support. Dont be sad, there are people in forum who have not graduated but we just keep quiet. I understand your feeling.

But i think if you have been blood test positive before and as long as there is ok sperm and egg n ok womb n medical condition for conception n age ok, there is still chance.

Perhaps wat is needed is to let your body have a little break and mind to unwind first, before trying again. Dont give up on natural trying also if both u n hubby doc, anything can happen before u knew it. According to wat i read.

Or perhaps is you havent met a doctor that can help you yet.

Jiayou!
 
Feeling defeated. Did my 5th fresh and today is blood test day. Hcg is negative.
After so many rounds, I am no longer as optimistic as I just started out to be. This retrieval was my worse with only 5 eggs, 3 mature and 1 fertilized.

A lot of people I have seen on the forum has since graduated and I am still right where I started. No longer have the courage to try but maybe when I feel ready again I will go for my last frozen egg.

I probably will plan for a life with no kids but it’s still a bitter pill to swallow after all the tcm, acupuncture and supplements.
You are very brave to have tried for so many cycles already. Just continue trying! Be it naturally or assisted.
Just take step by step and be happy with your partner, with or without kids.

You don’t have to compare yourself with others. Everyone has an ordeal to go through in life.

You won’t know how the future will turn out to be, so just be positive and be happy.
 
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Hi ladies, I’m going to have my 2nd FET next month. My 1st was a natural FET, but it was a failed cycle. For my 2nd FET, I opted for medicated FET, cos natural FET is too tiring and stress for me. Would like to know what will the procedure be for medicated FET? I’m with kkivf by the way.
i am keen to know too.. same here..starting medicated FET soon..waiting for AF.

medication of mediated FET starts on D2 or D3 ?
 

Hope2021

New Member
Hi, I am 37 and couple of months ago found out that I have high FSH (0.45) and low AMH (0.88), also having irregular periods for one year - the first doctor I consulted told me i dont stand a chance for IVF at all and should consider other options. Thereafter, I have consulted two other doctors who said there may still be a possibility. Got my second blood test done recently and now FSH is 0.26 but AMH is still not showing any improvement. This has come as a shock to both of us as this would have been our first time trying for a baby. I really want to feel positive but it's very hard. Dont know what to do and if I have any chance at all? Please advise.
 

cutiechar

New Member
Hi, I am 37 and couple of months ago found out that I have high FSH (0.45) and low AMH (0.88), also having irregular periods for one year - the first doctor I consulted told me i dont stand a chance for IVF at all and should consider other options. Thereafter, I have consulted two other doctors who said there may still be a possibility. Got my second blood test done recently and now FSH is 0.26 but AMH is still not showing any improvement. This has come as a shock to both of us as this would have been our first time trying for a baby. I really want to feel positive but it's very hard. Dont know what to do and if I have any chance at all? Please advise.
Hi

Not sure if the doctors recommended this to you. I know of someone who has low amh and is doing ivf now. the doctor told her to do a few rounds of egg retrieval, meaning collect eggs for a few round and freeze it. meaning dont transfer fresh. do a few rounds to collect eggs and then store it. this is also a good way cos since the amh is already low, good to faster retrieve it and freeze it first. As we age, our reserve will diminish further.
Dont give up! you just need one golden egg! ;)
 

towkayneo

Well-Known Member
Hi Ladies,

I’m currently in my 2ww since last Friday (11 Dec) from a FET cycle. It was my only FE left after my 2nd fresh cycle in April’20. It’s a C grade blastocyst but I believe the genes are more important cos though I managed to get pregnant during the fresh cycle with a B grade blastocyst, it ended up in a MC at 7 weeks. Seemed like it is getting more difficult than the first fresh cycle when I managed to conceive on the first round and gave birth to a healthy baby boy.

So now it’s about 7dp the FET but no obvious symptoms at all. No spotting or cramps.. I wonder if anyone had such experience before, whether is it normal. Cos the last fresh cycle, I had spotting since day 6 till even after BT.. This time round it just feel totally normal, no discomfort at all.

Sometimes I think I am so paranoid.. like the last round when I had spotting, I worried, now when there is nothing I also worried.. lol..

My BT is on 24 Dec next week at Kkh.
If you want to have a glimpse at the answer, you can try HPT. Not 100% accurate, but more or less there. Good luck
 

towkayneo

Well-Known Member
Feeling defeated. Did my 5th fresh and today is blood test day. Hcg is negative.
After so many rounds, I am no longer as optimistic as I just started out to be. This retrieval was my worse with only 5 eggs, 3 mature and 1 fertilized.

A lot of people I have seen on the forum has since graduated and I am still right where I started. No longer have the courage to try but maybe when I feel ready again I will go for my last frozen egg.

I probably will plan for a life with no kids but it’s still a bitter pill to swallow after all the tcm, acupuncture and supplements.
What I suggest is, up your protein, cut down on your sugar and carbs.

Study your past cycles - if the failed cycles are mainly fresh and of day 2/3, you can suggest to your doc that you want to do frozen with a blasto (if possible). Studies have shown that blastos have a higher chance of implantation and survival. https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/20/11/3198/2913825

Stay positive and keep trying. If you try, you have a chance, if you don't try, you don't have a chance. We have been there, done that. Just keep trying and do some changes every now and then, you will get the right formula.

Good luck
 


Hi, just coming in to root support. Dont be sad, there are people in forum who have not graduated but we just keep quiet. I understand your feeling.

But i think if you have been blood test positive before and as long as there is ok sperm and egg n ok womb n medical condition for conception n age ok, there is still chance.

Perhaps wat is needed is to let your body have a little break and mind to unwind first, before trying again. Dont give up on natural trying also if both u n hubby doc, anything can happen before u knew it. According to wat i read.

Or perhaps is you havent met a doctor that can help you yet.

Jiayou!
Going 40 next year. Trying for very long le.
Anyway thanks for comforting words.

Hope you also grad soon too.
 

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