I did both. Just to check, you also with dr Roland? You succeeded for the 2nd FET? Will the menses come on its own when the cycle failed given that I took lupron before that?
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I did both. Just to check, you also with dr Roland? You succeeded for the 2nd FET? Will the menses come on its own when the cycle failed given that I took lupron before that?
Dreamscometrue
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Yes I was with Roland and succeeded for the second FET. For the 1st FET I did not take the jab to stop menses.
U know sometimes it’s not the dr Nor the protocol. I believe everyone have a good egg but don’t know when it will surface. There are ppl who tried many times before getting a bfp and there are some who suddenly bfp naturally after many rounds of failed ivf. It’s how Long one can persevere n wait for it to happen. Go for review. I always feel better after a good chat with my dr.
N it’s not the end until blood test date. Jia you.
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hi, can I check what is your issue? And in the end, what did dr Sheila advice? She don’t do IVF right? You only go to her for checking and continue IVF at another place?
Yes, if luck and fate is the cause of it, then perhaps I am doomed. I went to calculate my bazi with a few master and they said that I will be childless hence I am so aggressive in my treatment after knowing I have Low AMh.
towkayneo
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Actually, if you go to the fortune teller and calculate our 8 characters, we are all destined to be childless, hence we have to resort to medical science to have our kids. So take it with a pinch of salt.
towkayneo
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Opps!
Dreamscometrue
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Totally understand how u felt. I would say you’re very brave to go and calculate. I thought of going but not guts to do so.
How many years have u tried?
Aiya all masters say the same thing. All my friends who have seen master in the past are mummies now. One step at a time
Did they also say that they are childless? More like looking at their eight characters, not like those normal fortune teller only see face or palm.
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I had been trying for 2 years. Went through 2 failed IUI under dr Lc foong, 2 Fresh Transfer under KKh (1 bfn,1CP) and finally 1 FET with Dr Roland. due to Low amh, I only had 1 d2 grade 3 fertilised embryo for first fresh, 2 d2 embryo for 2nd fresh and for FET, 1 4BB embryo.
All failed. I thought Dr Roland will be my lucky stars, since a lot of Low amh or unsuccessful for many times, bfp under him. He sound confident for my case too, but it still turns out bfn.
It is financially draining, given that we just bought a car due to my husband work location and flat is coming next year. And most importantly, it is so emotionally draining.
We do not have much saving too, but we really wanted our own children.
CNY is coming also. I tot that I may have good news for my parents finally. But....
And I am 30 years old this year, no one seems to understand why I am doing to so extreme.
But you know when you are younger in age and still failed 5 times, somehow the egg quality is not good on top on Low egg counts.
i really don’t know what else I can do. Tried max dose of gonal f at 1st IvF, 1 average embryo. Tried 150 menopur,1 average and 1 above embryo, but chemical pregnancy at Super Low Beta.
Last round was a combination of gonal f and some LH injection, then lupron and endo scratch.
don’t know what else I should try.
Not forgetting that I had fever on d1 of my 1st IVF stim, water cyst found on d1 of my 2nd IVF stim then fall down a flight of stairs a few days after my ET and for the 3rd cycle, I developed fever during my stim and cough and flu during my FET.
So many things happened, I wasn’t feeling very stress for my 3rd cycle, in fact hopeful, but I also don’t know why I ended up sick during stim and FET.
Can I blame it that I am sick for the failure? But there are others that succeeded despite being sick. Some even say that sick is good, so that our body will concentrate on fighting the virus and won’t Attack the embryo. But it does not work for my case.
Dreamscometrue
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Hi I’m not sure what will work for u but I can only say have a good rest before try again.
I tried for at least 5-6 years.. even experienced mc.. it’s not an easy journey for sure. But u will definitely get what U want one day
U can blame anything for the failure but pick yourself up n try again. Financially I can understand. I was worried n did not know when I should give up. I don’t want to dump all my savings and still no baby at the end of it but yet I refused to give up. I struggled with it too. What I can suggest is build up your finances as well as your health. Bonus is a good time to put aside savings.
U are 30 time is still not running out for u. There are many things u can try.....Diet, Tcm, intralipid. Many ttc ladies suggest this book “it starts with the egg” can borrow from the library. I have not read it though. I personally believe in gluten free diet. If u can u may want to try.
I saw your question on dr Sheila vasoo. She is good but very expensive. N yes u see her for auto immune related problem but not for ivf. Some of the blood test your gynae can do for u too.
An article on this lady succeed after 8 times.
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Some yes childless n some very difficult. Master look at 8 characters and others on zi wei Dou shu. Anyway just don’t go yuan Zhong Xiu. They are the most negative n money grubber fengshui Place.
Have u taken your blood test?
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towkayneo
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Are you referring to me! Hahaha...but there was one Taiwanese master who said my ah lao would have 3 kids and well, we have 3 boys now. We never even paid money to consult him. He just looked at his palm for that second and told him.
What about you?
towkayneo
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I understand those days of being childless; you would be wondering end of the day, would you grow old and be childless? Why me? Is it because I did not do enough good deeds to have a kid, how come that colleague sitting beside me; she's not exactly one with a good heart, how come she has kids etc. We all fully understand those days. What I can say is...keep trying and perhaps you can consider a change of doc, sometimes it works. I think if I failed a few times under the same doc, it may mean that he's not suitable. Using the same kind of money, I would place my bet with another one. At least 50-50.
There was one master in particular i remember very clearly. It was 2013 I think. He said u try n try also no use. If u want to try do it in 2015. N he added u do now sure fail one!!! Just go holiday blah blah. Don’t waste money. Well I don’t believe him wor. How can I waste two yrs doing nothing. My frens were telling me aiya masters always give two yrs as buffer. I agreed with them too.
Anyway I have seen so many masters. Some say childless some say difficult some say not impossible. U know the usual.
milogal88
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Mine is thyroid autoimmunity issues and high chance becoz of that it always hinders my implantation despite good looking embroys and lining. She put me on medication i.e. euthyrox to reduce the TSH levels, aspirin, prednisolone (i.e. steroids) and vit D supplements. Yes, she’s doesn’t do IVF but she works hand in hand with my IVF doc, Dr Tan HH from KKH previously and I will be the “messenger” between them passing their memos if either of them needs to ‘speak’ with each other on my treatment plans.
so the fortune teller you went is accurate. Maybe I am really destined to be childless. So worried
milogal88
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Hmm, not that you cannot alter your destiny I feel. Do more good deeds in accumulating good karma but you gotta be consistent. Also, don’t be too affected by what the fengshui master says la. I always feel the law of attraction works in the IVF journey. If you feel that it’s gona be doomed, then you will be doomed. It’s really your mindset. You may be trying all the best possible treatment but at the back of your head, you are already giving yourself the death sentence with what the fengshui master says, then you are working towards failure instead.
so u personally went to see a master to calculate your bazi? When did you manage to conceive?
milogal88
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Did you check for other stuffs like sticky blood and vit D deficiency etc?
Hi Bunny 33, thanks for the above articles. Can share the full article in Chinese? Thks
rainbowdreams1011
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My friend tried 10 years of IVF since 2008. She was 28 years old then. She finally had her daughter in 2018.
Persevere!
how many rounds did she undergo and what condition does she had? Did she ever went to calculate her bazi?
I have been eating vit D but not tested before. Sticky blood also never cause I think dr Tan and dr Roland seems not to be a believer of that.
Hi, can check for those under dr Sheila, is it a standard list of blood tests that she gave to u to test?
Or it is up to individuals? Her next available appointment is in jan. Just thinking whether I can take the tests required to go to dr Roland and do blood tests over at dr Roland side cause maybe my company insurance can claim still within this year.
I was calling up dr suresh, but his next available appointment is at end feb. Heard his waiting time is Long.
Or it is up to individuals? Her next available appointment is in jan. Just thinking whether I can take the tests required to go to dr Roland and do blood tests over at dr Roland side cause maybe my company insurance can claim still within this year.
I was calling up dr suresh, but his next available appointment is at end feb. Heard his waiting time is Long.
Dreamscometrue
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Wow ur company is good, can claim for such tests. It will cost more than 1k for all the tests under Dr Sheila
Do you have the list of tests?
milogal88
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I see. Suggest to just do the list of test to rule out any underlying issues. Infact, Dr Tan HH is also not a believer of intralipid but I didn't rule out the possibility of having to go for that just to exhaust whatever means I have to before I give up. For me, my threshold is that as long as it's nothing too invasive, I'll go for it to up my chances.
milogal88
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If my memory didn't fail me, it was a list of BT to do to test for various stuffs and that includes NK cells, sticky blood, vit D deficiency etc. Now is already mid Dec, suggest that you wait for your apt to see her in Jan first and discuss with her? Perhaps she can write you a memo and pass to Dr Roland to follow up on the required test on his end.
U don’t have to care they believe or not. Just tell them u want it.
I conceived 2015. I anyhow walk in to any master de. Cos I was very free n lost that time.
For ttc your TSH cannot be higher than 2.5. That’s what my endocrine dr told me. Even though 3 plus is within range but not good enough for trying a child.
Sorry I lost the Chinese version. The story is the same as English one. They are the same person.
My tsh is 1.263miu/l, not sure if we are referring to the same unit.
It is in good range
Ok thanks.
which is quite true right? The master say wait till 2015.
Yes but could be coincidence too.
Dreamscometrue
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Did some time back so don’t have it already
I did at NUH under sub class so saved quite alot
towkayneo
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I'm worse ok! I went to this so-called master who described my aunt's life so accurately that she cried like mad and she was like telling me he was damn legit. The moment I sat down with him (I did not tell him what I consulted him for), he said "What do you NOT want kids?" I ji tao pengs.
towkayneo
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Could be any how luan bom. I have met up with many fortune tellers & tang ki, went to many temples etc. So who is the real deal etc, I have no idea
But I tot the one u went said that u will have 3 kids and indeed you had?
Only qualify for govt co-funding if u did ART b4 40..i did mine 1st ivf just 2 wks b4 my 40 bday last mth but doc advise to do FET at the v last min so still entitled to the co-funding.. Prior to that I did an appeal to MOH for extending the co-funding n got approved.. U might want to try?
lady081980
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I also go to fengshui master (aka fortune teller) for my new house audit. I felt that he is very knowledgeable and accurate. Strangely he told us my hubby dun hv kids life but i have. He predicted few years down the road we will hv another kiddo (which is true) base on our bazi.
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Which email do you send to?
Which fengshui master did u went to?
lady081980
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I pm u