IVF/ICSI Support Group

Is the process to do HSG pain? How much does KKH charge?

I was thinking of go straight to IVF instead of IUI. But seems like the doct prefer to ask me start on IUI instead.... but i dont want to waste time and $ if the % of getting pregnant is low.
 


choco, for me the test was pretty painful. I had to take painkiller and rest for an hour plus I think. Most people took it pretty well and only sat rested for half hour. So it's up to individuals.
I can't recall the cost... Was quite a long while ago. I think it could be around $100-200? Can't be sure.

What is your doc diagnosis for you and dh? If its minor, maybe that is why doc suggest iui? My problem is tubes so ivf is the only solution.
 
Cas: I see. I don't even need to do that. Gynae just say do ICSI. He did ultrasound, look at sperm count report only. I must admit it was quite abrupt to accept.
 
Anyone did an early BT before? Was wondering how early can test because I'm already spotting so thinking they wil test or not..to see if maybe its menses coming instead.
Will an early test be accurate?
 
Chris, what does your ultrasound show? Or is if dh sperm test?
Because icsi is if there is low motility or morphology. As if in these case, icsi is best solution. Iui or ivf still need the sperm to be in good condition.
Maybe your doc is those straight forward don't want waste time one.
 
Cas: u r right.. I think d gynae is straight-forward kind but really backfire cos the new is a bit too overwhelming. I don't know what ultrasound says but the impression is the sperm report; which led to ICSI. He just say that doing ICSI so no need for me to do any other tests.. Straight forward enough. But recently I know I have adenomyosis which they didn't told me before. I had to tell them that I know abt it.. :S
 
Cas, 3-4 days before bt if bleeding can request for early bt.
Chevy and Cas, I can't sleep at all. Been lying on bed since 10+ but couldn't zz. Just now when I bathed, I saw more brown spotting. Really sad again over my failed 2 nd fresh. Ended up sobbing n woke up hubby. Now he fell asleep again. He asked me dun try le. I really wanted to bear a kid for the man I loved. Why is it just so unfair.
 
Chris, which doc are u with? Maybe not too "gentle" with breaking the news. But most doc I encounter before at kk is like that too. If you really uncomfortable with this doc, can find another one who u feel better with?
Yeah icsi is more specific. At least now you know what problem u face. Hope you can succeed at your first try! Jia you.
 
Usagi, try too calm yourself ok... Crying is bad for both emotionally and physically. I know it's pretty hard to not feel sad.
I was pretty upset when I first spot too, cried myself to sleep. But after that, I keep telling myself.. It's going be ok. At most, I will just have to try again. As long as I still desire to have my own children, I can't give up. No matter what.

Your dh must be upset to see you cry you know. He also must be feeling your pain so he tells you don't try le. You must be strong ok! For yourself and dh! Jia you ok.... Hugs for u!
 
Chevy and Cas, I just went for early Bt. I think should bt bfn since when I poo this morning, I saw some red.

I felt a lot better after crying last night and hubby gave me a hug this morning. I told him I am debating to change job. He say go ahead and tiao my body again in the meantime.

I am thinking to change to dr Loh. Can anyone advise the cost? I have stayed with Sgh for 2 tries, maybe I should change for some better luck. I am on the heavy dosage side. Even with 3k grant, my total bill is 13-14k. Kindly advise.

Cas and Chevy, Jy!
 
usagi ..hugzz..i can understand how u feel...stay strong...tiao better and try again...change dr might be a gd idea..maybe no 缘 with the current dr..

i decided to change to kk after 3 failed iui..mainly due to cost but i also wanna change of luck..last iui, stim at puergon max only 3 follies..this time hv 7 so i think results is much much better..hopefully me and Dr Tan 有缘。。
 
Usagi, dun give up hope yet
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i spend about S$17k in TFC, Dr Loh; but i have very high dosage of Gonal F; hence, i would say the normal range in TFC is S$12k - S$17k.

is there anything else i can help here? please let me know sisters
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Cas - Don't worry, excess folic acid will get flushed out thru your urine. I was also a bit scared initially when he gave me such a high dose.

Choco - HSG is where they fill your uterus with a dye and take an X-ray of it. This procedure can also unblock your tubes if they happen to be blocked. But like Cas said, it's not as good a diagnostic as Lap. My previous gynae wanted me to do HSG but my current fertility specialist didn't.
I think it's coz I've never had any surgery or infection around that area so unlikely that they r blocked. Ours is sperm prob anyway. If you're doing IVF, tubes don't matter at all.

I also wanted to skip IUI but doc recommended it. I think he wanted to 'test the waters' and see how I respond to the low dose of injects first before embarking on IVF. Coz getting the right dosage is important.

Usagi - Sorry about what happened, good to have a good cry and let it out. I agree you should change job if you're too stressed. My health got much better after I quit my job.
 
Hi hope,
Does it work like govt hospital? Just pay cash for scans and injections. The actual er and et pay by medisave? I know there is no 3k govt grant. Now when I do a fresh, I need to standby 5-6k cash, rest by 3k grant and 5k medisave.
Need to know so that I can save the cash. Do I need to save 13-17k cash first? How high is ur gonal-f? My gonal-f and menopur already at 450. Thanks!
 
Usagi,
i paid cash all the way from the start, and the mediasave deduction on the final big fat bill on ET day.(actually is the same like SGH's billing system)

i was given Gonal-F 450 + Manopur 75 from 2-9Mar; and Gonal-F 525 + Manopur 150 from 10-11Mar.
 
Cas/usagi,hello, I just realized I also got brown spotting this morning! My by should be next tues. I called kkivf centre to check with nurse, and the nurse said is normal?! She said spotting is due to medicine?! When I saw spotting my first feeling was, oh my god menses coming! What is the spotting mean actually? Coz the brown colour discharge not like the brown colour spotting when menses coming as usual. Feeling very uncertain now....
 
Hi Usagi, dun sad okie. As long as it's not like regular flow, there's still hope! Unlike me, mine alrdy like regular liao
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Last nite, I shedded buckets of tears, let myself wallow in self pity, self reproach, self deprecating. Woke up this morning feeling much beta
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Support from dh is indeed very needed n comforting at this time. Apart from our pat-tor days, he hardly hug me to sleep but he did so yesterday hehehe.....

I shall feast n sayang myself n then try again
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Hi all, for brown spotting it doesn mean is bfn. Something it is just late implantation spotting or the old blood. I read a lot of sisters with brown spotting and bfp. My 1st bfp (although MC later) also have spotting before BT, and for my other 2 failed cycles which no spotting till BT but is Bfn. So spotting doesn means is bfn ok, sometime is +ve....
 
Cas, hope to hear good news for your early BT. It is not too late to give support if progesterone is low.

Usagi, don't give up yet. Wait for the result. Jiayou!! jiayou!!

Chevy, good to hear that DH is so supportive. It's so important as we go through this period that's so emotionally charged. Rest and relax for awhile and start again when you are recharged!
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Chevy, so sweet. Mine slept earlier than me. He got woken up as I reached for his hand as I wanted his warmth. But my hubby didn't hug me, he simply pat my head and said go sleep. He did not throw tantrum at me for waking him. Haha, that's at least some comfort. So we both sobbed last nite, haha. Cried le will feel better to have courage to continue to move on.

I think I disappointed my hubby greatly, he is the type who dun like Ivf, he said dun do le. If I continue, he won't give me financial support. But I won't give up, my last 2 rounds, he also never give me fin. Support. All I need is his sperms and a shoulder to cry which so far he can provide.

It has been nice to have u, Cas and Jeanne these 2ww! Let's all try harder again.

Lavender, if u are worried, can go for early bt. Spotting doesn't mean all lost. Like what Sarah n cool n faith said, they got bfp.
 
Usagi, when will they call about the result? Don't think too much about it ok... Just relax and rest..All the best for your result! No matter what, we are here for you.

Mine will only know later afternoon... But nurse says it was too early to take BT and that spotting is common. So maybe next week go back again. Feels like I was making a wasted trip down.

Lavender, you can ask them if continue spotting how.. Whether can go take BT earlier. Don't stress... Relax and rest more. Like what the others say, it may be good news.

Chevy, Hugs for u... Take a break and recharge yourself. Come back stronger and jia you again ok! Eat more bu..

Thanks Cool and Sarah for sharing and encouraging. It helps a lot to hear from others who have been thru all these.

I got one more thing to ask... If its ok that I didn't take the folic acid doc given me at the start of cycle? Because I was taking conceive well so I thought its ok to skip the doc one.
But I just realised the dosage really big difference. Like the doc prescribe is 5mg... Then conceive well I think only 0.5mg!
 
Hi Usagi,Thanks for your reply.Have you done your BT yet? My brown discharge become a bit red discharge now,not sure whether will turn to regular flow soon.I think wait after this weekend and see how. No matter what result,we have to take care ourselves and move on,dont be sad,ok?
 
Hi Cas,seems like few of us who have the same BT dates have spotting at the same time.my brown discharge become more red discharge now.Just have to pray hard wont become regular flow.Hard to relax now ...haha Please share with us your BT result later,ok? Do you continue spotting now?How is your spotting?brown/red?
 
Hi Lavender, yeah weird coincidence that we all having spotting before BT! You try to bed rest and relax ok. Don't be stress...
I'm also telling myself to just take it easy. Mine brown spotting... Been 3 days already. And cramps also on off.
All the best to you k... Jia you!
 
Hi Cas, I haven get my Bt results, I guess latest by 3pm. Sorry about your wasted trip. I didn't call either, just go down Sgh for bt, Sgh is ok de if 3-4 days earlier got bleeding. They are all very friendly and know us by names. I really like Sgh Care.

Hi lavender, you should continue with the supports they give u. Stay hydrated and avoid walking. Do some bed rest to avoid uterus contracting. I had more brown spotting last night, a bit of red when I poo. Otherwise, I am merely having brown spotting since I am still taking the supports. Just wait till they tell me to stop the supports. I am still holding the tiniest hope with Cool, Sarah and Faith's encouragement. Jiayou!
 
This is my advice to those with KKIVF.

If u git spotting and call the nurse the will always tell u wait and see. The best thing is go to 24hrs clinic at KK and ask for BT to be done. Sometimes tge progretrone support is not enough so spotting may happen. Sometimes we have to be firm with them if not they alwats ask us wait and see. I learn all thia with those sisters who spotting / bleeding during the 2ww and they go straight to 24hrs for add support or do BT.

To cas, chevy, usagi do take care.
 
Hi Cas/Usagi,i think brown discharge still have good hope.When i'm using tissue to clean my vigina i saw red,it's really look like menses coming kind of red.Those spotting in my pad like brown( or from red turn to brown?) now i seems confuse,not sure how to distinguish brown and red!Yes,just now i called nurse and the nurse said should continue support they gave me.
 
Usagi, u at sgh care now? Me also there waiting for my scan
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saw a couple bringing their newborn here.. The baby so cute but dunno why I suddenly feel sad n feel like tearing..

But seeing the baby also give me the hope that we can also have healthy baby as long as we believe, 1 day we will..
 
Hi Babylew, no. I went at 8am this morning. This morning, they were also talking to babies, I am also sad over my failure.

All the best for your scan.
 
Hi Usagi/Cas/Sarah,yes.I will go to BT tomorrow morning.Just now i checked my pad,seems stop spotting.Your spotting on & off? thanks all for your support and suggestion.Really appreciated and hope all of us have good news.
 
Hi Cas and Chevy,
I got my bt, is bfn. I got hcg reading of 3 only for 10days post a 3 days transfer. But they tell me to continue with the supports first and redo my bt on mon. I have accepted the results with no more tears. Thanks all!
 
Thanks Sarah. Dr Yong hopes so, so she is asking me to redo on mon and continue with the supports. Personally, I got improvements, my last reading was 0.2 or 0.3 for first fresh. I am slightly contented. I did better but just not pregnant.
 
Usagi, hugs for you...have a good rest ok..
I also bfn. Kk didn't say about reading.They just reschedule me to see Dr next month.
Do we need to retake BT? The nurse just say its negative and tell me can stop the progesterone. I was still wondering if it's too early to detect, but I guess should be accurate enough for the nurse to tell me to stop inserts. And today is 13 days past d2 transfer.
 
Hi Cas, Usagi, Cool, Shainie,
Thanks for your concern & support. Yepz, it's a definite -ve as clinic just called. Not much emotion as I have alrdy used them all yesterday! Hahahahaaa.....

Cas, as long as it' s brown spotting, high chance. U hang in there ya!

Usagi, as advised, do continue ur supports as miracle might happen!
 
Chevy, hugs for you too... I'm not sure about the process for fet. As I have frozen embryos so will be doing that. I'm seeing doc in may... But when start, no idea?
Cycle buddies!
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let's all jia you jia you!!
 


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