IVF/ICSI Support Group

Mamaleen,
How many eggs did u retrieve? Inserts will cause some bloating but shouldn't be too serious. Let ur doc know diring ur ET abt ur bloating. After ur ET pls dont use medicated oil anymore.
 


Eskimobaby....11 eggs were retrieved. Not too many eggs so by right, possibility of ohss is thin. My tummy's a lil bloated after ER but now, after the inserts, worse. I think I better alert the nurse tmrw morning cos I don't think this is normal. If this continues, I hope it won't harm the embies after ET. Hmm, so during 2ww, cannot use medicated oil on tummy?
 
Tomorrow Sunday ur doc's clinic is open? U should start increasing ur intake of egg whites n try to stay hydrated. Yes, no medicated oil during 2ww n even after u bfp
 
The clinic is not open on Sundays but I have my nurse's hp no...she can help to check with my dr. Hopefully, it'll help. Thank u, girl...will keep in mind abt the medicated oil.
 
Good morning sisters
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Good morning Luv, Hope and sisters
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Luv, presume you will go for BT tomorrow? keeping my fingers & toes crossed for you!

Hope, tomorrow your last scan right? I am sure your follicles will have grown well with all your effort. I wasn't as tough as you to eat 20 raw egg whites, I can't take raw EW at all. Keep us updated ok?

Ching, I was at RCM yesterday abt 1:45 pm. Might have actually seen you there but do not know which one is you.
 
Angelxuan,
Maybe u hv not seen me la... Coz by 1.45pm, I should be in the treatment room oredi
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Sisters,
Can put the Szechuan Vege into soup?
 
Hi ladies,
Need your advice here. If i go private for 2nd fresh cycle, i know i can only use medisave and cash for the fees. But let's say i decide to go back to the govt hosp for 3rd fresh, am i still eligible for govt grant? And what if it's 4th fresh but 2nd or 3rd attempt in govt hosp?? Anyone knows how this works? Thanks!!
 
Luvnhope,
3rd fresh if u go back to govt, yes can still get the 3k grant but as for the 4th one I dunno whether can still use the 3rd grant from govt. U thinking of going private for 2nd fresh?
 
Dear LuvnHope, eskimobaby, HOPE
Thanks for your reassurances! I will stay positive and tell baby to kick and push and fight for more space from my uterus!!!

Dear Joanne,
Dunno gender yet, cos of positioning and also my adeno always causes the scan to look blurry, cant see inside very clearly. Dr Loh gave aspirin and MC without saying they will help definitely but we don't want to miss out on anything that may help so try try lo. TCM maybe lo, Maybe Dr Tan SB since i'm free this week due to MC.

Dear Hope,
All the best for your ER & ET next week!!!

Dear eskimobaby,
Happy belated birthday!!!

Dear BigBear,
Did u try NTUC for double boiler? There's the aerogaz brand.
As for adenomyosis, you SURELY will know if u have it. Cos you will have extrememly severe menses such that you would break out in cold sweat etc and MUST be on MC for 1-2 days. The menstrual blood is basically not growing where it should be growing which is the lining, it grows on the muscular walls of the uterus and thus it is extremely painful. Also, your uterus might stick to your intestines thus causing bowel problems too. During scan, your uterus will look swollen and enlarged and it looks blurry cos the adenomyosis makes your uterus look "rough" and sometimes might be mistaken for fibroids etc. Hope this clarifies!
 
eskimo, thanks for the info! Yeah, am considering if i shld. KKIVF is easier on the pocket but really feels like a production line. And the attention from your doc is so minimal. I'm thinking if i spend more $$ but can get better culturing and more personal attention and of course hopefully results, then it may be well worth the $$ spent. Considering btwn Dr Loh's clinic and CARE. But haven't really decided whether to really switch or not.
 
LuvNHope.. I think a big advantage going private is that you do not need to queue for months. However, the trade off is $$.. I was with Mt E previously and it cost me a bomb on the stim since I hv low AMH.. heartpain and pocket pain.. So decided to give KKIVF a try.

Not sure about how much it will cost in Dr Loh's clinic and CARE.. u hv any idea?
 
Sistars, can I know how you prepare immunocal? with juice or milo? Milo need to mix with hot water right? then need to wait for it to cool before adding immunocal?
 
MC, i'm guessing in the range of $10 to $14k? But think Ching spent more than that at Dr Loh's. How did you find the service at Mt E? Which doc were u under? How much did you spend if u dun mind sharing?
 
Luv..I am with Dr Suresh Nair previously at Mt E.. I think only rich ppl can afford to see him.. my stim med alone (450 puregon) cost me at least a few thousands.. that is excluding per consultant that cost me at about $200+, excluding scan..

Anyway, it got converted to IUI due to only 3 follicies.. but its so ex already..
 
mc Suresh Nair is a good doc. Hes very friendly. My aunt gynae. She managed to conceived thru hym. My aunt has endo, fibroid.

Btw ladies, EW to consume is wat kinda EW? I read under 'Do n Donts chicken egg white is yin. Please advise
 
yalor...so i really cannot afford although I want to start again fast..age is catching up with me. When I come over to KKIVF.. everything becomes so cheap...lol..

But the disadvantage also is that you don't get to see the doctor every time unlike in Private. I am still trying to adjust to KKIVF style.
 
Yep... I was with the O & G clinic at gleneagles. Each consultation also abt $200 but luckily I found dr Loh before I did IUI with them. So I guess mt E n gleneagles will be this kind of prices.
 
Bigbear, if u have slow cooker, can use it as a double boiler. Just need to get a porcelain/ceramic pot/bowl that can fit into the slow cooker. Learned this idea from my MIL to make my chicken essence.
 
Nurul.. yes, Dr Nair is very friendly but he is also expensive..His waiting time is also crazy.. minimum 2-3 hours even with appt.

He told me that becos of my low AMH, seems like not much chance in IVF which is very discouraging. Ask me to think getting egg donor..so I decided to switch to seek other opinion.
 
mc, good to seek second opinion and to have a doc who has optimism to do sthg for us.
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eskimo, you're referring to fertility specialists at Gleneagles or normal gynaes? If normal gynae then their charges are a bit ridiculous bah...
 
Nurul, I just took all forms of cooked EW. Other ladies take it raw or semi-cooked. I don't like my food raw so took it boiled, fried or scrambled.
 
Luv..yap.. at least Dr Tan have a plan for me to mix the stim med for my condition. Although he also warn me that I wld not produce too many follicies, he is still encouraging and say there is still hope.

I am gg to "biah" this round hoping to be like Hope, having at least 3-4 good follicies. But 20 raw EW I think I really cannot make it..
 
Nurul, LRD better to brew fresh every day. But be careful if it gets too heaty for you, then maybe drink alternate or every few days.
 
Mc, actually i think they say take EW raw because of the component that can prevent OHSS. If you're taking it more for the protein and egg building, then no need to take raw i think??
 
I can take half-boil.. so I am taking 2 half-boil every morn..maybe should increase to 2 at night too in prep for next mth.

Hope recommended Immunocal so I am trying out this month too.

What about Chicken Essence? How does it help?.. I actually hate drinking it.
 
Luvnhope,
Fertility specialist in gleneagles but I haven't start my IUI or ivf mah so should be considered normal obstetric consultation?
 
arghhh... it's getting harder day by day not to read into the symptoms that i have.... especially when i know it's the pessaries that are creating them all....
 
SaShamama, thank so much for the information on adenomyosis! In that case I should not be suffering from it.

I managed to buy a 2.2L electric double boiler from takashimaya. Many Thank!
 
mc_007 and sisters double boiling chicken essence/soup yourself:

If you don't like the pure chicken essence taste/smell, you may add a red date, a few pieces of wolfberries, a dried scallop and a little bit of salt to double boil together. The resultant taste/smell is as good as the black chicken soup from soup restaurant.
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Sashamama:
have you made an appt to see TCM dr regarding your condition? Hope you can find solution from TCM. Pls keep us updated, ok?

Eskimobaby: Stay zen!

Mamaleen: All the best for your ET tomorrow!
 
Happy for u Bigbear. I am too lazy, will just drink EYS red dates chicken essence. Today just bought Ensure chocolate milk, tml morning will start to drink as breakfast!
 
Eskimobaby,
U start feeling something?
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btw, when is ur BT?

Mamaleen,
Hope your bloatedness has subsided. Good luck to ur ET tomorrow!

Nurul,
Gou Qi is wolberries. Can get it from Chinese medical hall like Hock Hua or ZTP
 
Thanks Ching. Dun noe whether I can drink it or not. I very difficult to swallow things I never tried b4 in life ESP herbs n such. So wats e taste like.
 
 
 Some sharing:
IMMUNOCAL is “food for your immune system” and ideally should be eaten on an empty stomach, so first thing in the morning works well for most people.  It is absorbed through the lining of the stomach; goes into the intestines; then into the blood stream.  This is where the precursors that help your body make more glutathione are delivered to all the cells.  Having a meal in the stomach interrupts this process.  You can eat a meal 30-45 minutes after taking IMMUNOCAL.  If you need to take IMMUNOCAL later in the day (some people take a second dose before bedtime), make sure your stomach is mostly empty.  As long as you haven't eaten anything for about 3 hours, there's probably not much food left in the stomach.  It is best not to mix IMMUNOCAL with milk or another protein source, because taking it with another protein could possibly inhibit the absorption of this specially processed whey protein isolate.
 
IMMUNOCAL is most effective when prepared in water or juice (2-4 ounces of liquid per packet is advised; you can adjust the desired consistency; it is perfectly OK to take 2 or 3 packets at one time).  If you use water, then fresh (not tap) is recommended.  Some stores carry a brand of bottled water called PROPEL, which has a natural sweetener added to it.  Or, you can use regular bottled water and sweeten it with just a few drops of liquid STEVIA (this is a naturally sweet herb you can buy at a health food store; it is also available in powdered form).  Keep in mind you do not need to add any sweetener to your fresh water unless you prefer it that way.
   
FYI:  The 2 juices you should not mix with IMMUNOCAL are cranberry (or a cranberry blend) and pineapple (cranberry is too acidic and pineapple has enzymes).  Both juices destroy the bioactivity, which is very fragile.  All other juices are OK, including orange juice and other citrus.  (Please note:  If you are taking enzymes to help with a pre-existing digestive problem, do not take them at the same time as IMMUNOCAL.  Wait at least 1 hour before taking your enzymes.)  Drink your prepared IMMUNOCAL within 30 minutes.  If you leave it sitting around longer, the bioactivity is destroyed, which renders IMMUNOCAL ineffective.
 
Heat also destroys the bioactivity, so never mix IMMUNOCAL in a household blender or anything with metal blades because the high speed creates heat.  Never use any liquid warmer than room temperature.  Do not drink a hot liquid, like coffee or tea, immediately before or after consuming IMMUNOCAL.  It is not recommended to leave the boxes or individual packets sitting in the hot sun, or in the heat of a car.
 
thanks Bigbear for the info regarding Immunocal..do you know how long after drinking immunocal can I drink coffee or tea? I normally drink them during breakfast.

Normal boiled water ok? What is the taste like if jus mix with normal water?

Angelxuan.. so I boil all these in a slow cooker? for how long?
 
mc_007, yes double boil all these together. Actually I don't have a typical double boiler, I use wmf pressure cooker to double boil. Thus don't know how long it takes for a double boiler..can other sisters advise please?
 
Thank u all...still trying to sleep...nervous for tmrw....embryologist called this morning to tell me out of the 6, only 3 made it to day 3. *sigh* Am hoping and putting high hopes on these 3 but I was so sad today...cried a lot. But now feeling much better and high-spirited for tmrw. My bloatedness has subsided but I don't have appetite and my tummy feels a lil pain if put a lil pressure on it.

Luvnhope....I'm with Health & Fertility Ctr For Women...it's private this also quite ex. Each consultation costs about 100 plus, not including the scanning and meds. Puregon itself costs me abt $2000+....all procedures done at Mt E which approx costs $9k to $14k, excluding insurance, embryo freezing etc. As much as I enjoy the service with private hosps, it really depletes my savings.
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