IUI/SO-IUI: Anyone?

[duffy_bear]

Dear all,Thks for your support...

I already sign consent form to proceed injection... Now waiting for doc in charge cos he in surgery OP now... Shld be able to discharge 2 hrs after injection... Hopefully this round turn out well for me...

 

[dian_tang]

Duffy bear : hugs hugs I hope you could get well and healthy soon . Take care .

 

[saralyn]

Duffy Bear: you will be fine.. hugs.. be strong and rest well..

 

[nicxl]

To our bravest Duffy bear, sorry I didn't check the thread until now, hugzzzzz. I know no amount of words can describe how sad u are right now. Haizzzz.

now that u've made the decision, let the dr and nurses take care of u, u must get back your health first. Nothing is more imp now.

After this, u can then consider what u plan to do. Can you actually do laproscopy to clear ur Fallopian tubes? That will give u a better chance of conceiving naturally without worrying about ectopic pregnancy.

 

[lil_ponyo]

Dear All, Thread so quiet today. Well I hope you are all having a good day and have a great weekend! Stay happy and jia you!

 

[duffy_bear]

Nicxl, I giving ivf a try after I get well... Hb is fine with my decision... Doc never give me the laparoscopy option ...

Next monday gg kkh for blood test and doc review... Hopefully my hcg level went down ....

I gg take a short nap cos feeling abit giddy ...

 

[mrswee_wk]

Hi ladies,

It's been a while since I lasted posted here. I failed my So-IUI last cycle and going to embark on my 1st IVF. I was put on Puregon and Menopur and stimulated 20 eggs, that time when found out e no of eggs was too late to convert to IVF. But I am still hopeful and believe miracles will happen.

Back again, here I always gain moral support and encouragement from all sisters.. ^^

 

[mrswee_wk]

Lil ponyo,

Remember me?

previously in Dr Foong thread.. Are u doing IVF now? Saw u in IVF support thread.. Hee

 

[depressed_gal]

Ya 2day thread seem quiet. I'm juz dn w my scanning n nw still continue w puregon jab.

Dian tang, Hw R u feelin nw?

DUffybear, hve a gd nap n rest.

 

[lil_ponyo]

Hi Claris, yes of course I still remember you! You are the first person I wrote to when I joined this forum

How are you? Yes, since then I have failed 3 IUIs (both natural & SO) so now I'm in the middle of IVF injections. Are you still with Dr Foong? When is your IVF scheduled?

Duffy, have a good rest over the weekend. I admire your strength!

Laki, how was your scan? Are your follicles growing well?

 

[mrswee_wk]

Lil ponyo,

I'm good now.

Since i had a failed egg stimulation for my 1st So-IUI, and abandoned the cycle as you know. I was very depressed and upset, Hb was worried and unhappy so decided to seek 2nd opinion. So I m with Dr Loh now and found out e cost are much cheaper. IVF will be at 10k according to him. Put aside the cost, of course I still like Dr Foong, his friendliness, professionalism and skill.

Had So-IUI last cycle, with 20 eggs thought of converting but was too late. Feeling so wasted.. this month supposed to rest and wait for Af to report. Have to wait for Af and proceed to schedule for IVF?

 

[dian_tang]

Duffy bear: rest well..

Laki gal: i was feeling fine and sleepy except some cramps at the lower abdominal. Still have to drink lots of water as the doc advise. How was your scanning today?Ur ER is this sat?

Lil Ponyo and Saralyn: Hope you two are doing fine

 

[lil_ponyo]

Dian_tang, I'm doing fine but I think I'm starting to feel the effects of the injection. I'm tired but can't sleep well for 2 nights already. Also I find that my heart seems to beat faster. I counted that I've done 7 injection and still have 39 more injections to go. Sigh...

I updated my boss and cancelled another work trip. So by now, I've already cancelled 3 trips in this 2 months. Feel a bit bad about it but at the same time it feels so good to be at home and not traveling!

Claris, a lot of ladies doing IVF are with Dr Loh and they have good things to say about him so you are in good hands. Yeah, Dr Foong not cheap. I'm paying $16k for IVF. There are 2 protocols for IVF - long or short. I'm on long and that is a 6-7 weeks process. I call doctoron D1 of AF for bloodtest on D2 and then doctor will see you and start injection on D21. The injections are for another 4.5weeks and then its ER and ET.

 

[duffy_bear]

Dear all, I wake up liao and feeling better now...

My gf ask me whether I need to do confinement ???

I already bathed with tap water... But I think I will start with diet such as ginger chicken with sesame... Long dates with long gan...

 

[dian_tang]

Lil Ponyo: wow u travelled for your work .. That is tough and tiring . I have hot flushes so I slept in aircon . Maybe you can feedback to dr Zhao and see if she can help u on that .

 

[snoopy77]

Duffy bear, u get jab ? Back to home ? Pls take good care...

 

[depressed_gal]

Lil, only 3 follicles at 8mm, d rest all below 8mm. D nurse say I hve to continue d puregon jab for 3 days n mon gg bk scanning. Any ways to make eggs grow faster? My lining shld b 8.5mm if I don't c wrongly.

Dian_tang, think my Er still quite long, d nurse say hve to monitor hw well is my follicles r growing, so mon gg bk for scanning again. How long is ur stimulation? 2nite only b D4 of my stimulation. Think serene is d 1 gg Er 2ml.

Duffybear, glad tat u r feeling better. Do tk care ya.

 

[verone_baby]

duffy bear, have a good rest!

lil ponyo, your company so good, i think if my ex-company they will show me color already..haha..that's why i opt out from traveling job but even now office job, also can't afford to take so much leave..although my boss didn't say anything but i can sensed that she's not so happy..

Claris, what's the dosage and medicine you took for SO-IUI? 20eggs seems a lot!

 

[dian_tang]

LakiGal: dun feel discourage. we are using diff drugs and diff pple react diffently to the drugs.Just follow the drug dosage by the doc and you should have many good follicies.

 

[depressed_gal]

Dian_tang, nw cn only wait for mon n c hw d rest react to it. D nurse told me need to b above 18mm then is consider gd.

 

[lil_ponyo]

Laki gal, don't worry and don't rush. Maybe your body takes more time. Continue to take care and support your body to promote egg growth. Lots of water, protein, rest and happy thoughts. You can do it!

Dian-Tang and Prosepina, ya I travel almost every month. And the trips are long too. My boss said that since I have decided to do this, I must do this properly and 100%. If need to take leave or whatever, just do it. Don't do this journey, half hearted - i.e. half the heart is still stress about work. I thought that was very nice of him but still feel a bit bad.

Have a good weekend, ladies!

 

[depressed_gal]

Lil, wow ur boss v gd. Haiz 2ml I still need to go bk work coz feel bad about taking half day n have to clear my work first
Before I feel I can rest freely

 

[min81]

Duffy bear,

Hope you're feeling better.. Ya it'll be good to do a mini-confinement.. You can join us at the thread which i PMed you the link.. Many of the ladies there seeing tcm and can guide you for the things to be done during confinement.. Take good care k.. Hugz..

Laki_gal,

Don't worry k.. Everyone reacts to medication at diff pace.. Jia you!

Lil_ponyo,

That's very understanding of your boss.. I believe with all the support, you're definitely going to succeed!

 

[mrswee_wk]

Lil ponyo,

U do take care, rest well, stay happy and eat healthily.

wish u a smooth journey ahead ya and hope to hear ur good news real soon! And spread ur baby dusts to us ya.. ^^ may I know what is the difference between long and short protocol? And do we have to pay extra for ICSI or it's included in the total cost?

Prosepina,
For my So-IUI, the stimulation medicine are Puregon and Menopur. Puregon D2 to D7 50Iu, D8 to D9 75Iu, D10 to D12 100Iu. I wasnt respond well to Puregon till now only 3-4 eggs so the doc give me a 75Iu Menopur on D13. D14 100Iu Puregon again. On D15 found out got 20 eggs, on that day i finished remaining Puregon dosage. Mainly because of my Pcos condition, sometimes no eggs at all, if have can have a lot more if the right medicine triggered. Doc said e haywires can have good and bad.. ><

Which stage are u in now?

 

[dian_tang]

Laki gal : ya the size of folicies must be at least 17.5 mm . Dun be surprised the folicies may grow quite fast . Try not to do any exercise including yoga as it may affect the folicies.

Lil Ponyo: wow ur travel is intensive . Sometime my DH have to travel for long period and I feel lonely too.

 

[verone_baby]

Claris, I'm trying naturally now after failed ivf cycle.

Lakigal, what's ur dosage now? I think still early for ur case, lining must reach at least 11-12mm for ivf egg size at least 16mm. My case even 16mm also not matured..I got 10days of stimulation, then inject HCG. Don't worry ya, you still got very high chance. Eggs grow ard 2mm per day so ur 8mm will become 20mm..

Eat more protein, eggs, or milk. Are u taking immunocal, maybe can take 2-3packet a day..

 

[nurul_huda]

Lakigal eat more protein. Eg Immunocal n egg whites. Ideal lining is 8-12mm once ur follicles reached 18mm.

 

[rainy1978]

Hi ladies. Will like to seek some advice. I decide to embark on SO-IUI next mth. Can e IUI procedure be done on D10? Is it considered too early or have to see whether the egg reaches ideal size?

 

[depressed_gal]

Morning ladies.

Prosepina, my puregon now is at 150iu daily. I think my lining is now around 8.5mm (if I didnt c wrongly), will it b too thick by d time for er? D nurse told me d eggs hve to rch at least 17mm n d best will b 18mm.

Nurul, yup im taking ew daily but only d most 4 per days haha already sick of tking it. My dh say he gve all d 'gd food' to me. lol. Hmm i think i saw my report tat my lining is 8.5mm now wonder will it b too thick. Think mon when i go bk for scan, will double confirm w d nurse.

rainy, iui will based on case by case. It depend on how big ur follicle grow, once it rch d certain size, dr will arrange for d procedure. Last x, i hve my iui done on my D14.

 

[dian_tang]

Rainy: dr also have to test when you are ovulating using the ovulation stick .

 

[lil_ponyo]

Laki, quickly finish your work today and go home and rest! Don't worry too much about your egg size and lining as it will not help the situation. Just keep feeding your body with all the good food and good rest and see how your scan goes on Monday. If you are sick of egg white, try to supplement with other types of proteins. Remember, happy thoughts!

Min81 and Claris, thanks for your well wishes

Yes, I am fortunate to have the support. Like all the girls here, I'm giving this my best shot but I try not to think too much into it. Dh and I know there is no guarantee and we are just buying our best chance for a baby.

Dian_tang, I know how you feel. Besides my travels, my Dh actually travels a lot too. Sometimes in a month, we only see each other for 5 days. The good thing is that we hardly fight because we are always so happy to see each other. Ha ha!

Claris, my IVF already includes ICSI. Dr Foong said he will do ICSI straightaway and not wait and see if the sperms will fertilize the eggs on their own and then decide. He said there is no point wasting the time. If I am not mistaken, ladies please correct me if I am wrong, the difference between short and long protocol is that short protocol does not have suppression stage. It goes straight to stimulation. Whereas long protocol, you suppress for 2 weeks and then stimulate for 2 weeks. What I don't know is how doctor determines which protocol is best for each individual. Long protocol is so loooong...

Rainy, the doctor will scan the size of your follicles and thickness of your lining. After that, he will determine the best day for the IUI procedure. Timing is key because it has to be done during the time you ovulate. The day can even differ from cycle to cycle for the same person.

 

[depressed_gal]

Yes mdm Lil =b

Lil, u r rite. For short protcol, it will skip d suppression and go st to stimulation. Short protcol will start on D2 whereas long protocol will start on D21. Lil u rching to stimulation soon ya.

 

[rainy1978]

thks ladies. during my last IUI, doctor only scanned my follicles. didn't tell me to test for ovulation. D10 is too early for my ovulation as mine always happen ard D14. but i'm thinking whether SO-IUI will help the follicles to grow faster &amp; maybe ovulation will happen earlier??
i'm not sure as this will be my 1st time doing SO-IUI.
i'm actually hoping to have my IUI procedure done on a particular date &amp; if my menses come on time, it will be my D10 but it really depends on the follicle size. haiz...hard to have perfect time matching of a 'good' day with the ideal follicle sizes

 

[saralyn]

Hello ladies!

I was so busy yesterday and so tired.. Couldn't come here to chat..

Dian tang: I'm doing fine. Just started my 2nd shot which is puregon on Thursday night. Finally I'm at stage 2 of my ivf. Another 1+ week will be ER. Fingers crossed that my ovaries cooperate with me and the medication.. Hopefully they produce many good follicles and also my lining be thick. The last round of scanning, dr commented my lining is thin.

How are you doing now? Feeling any symptoms now? So excited for you!

Duffy bear: it will be good to do a mini confinement. Remember to take good care of your body. Health is more important than anything.

Claris: welcome back! I am with dr loh for my ivf.. So far, I find him good but doesn't talk much or tell you much unless you ask. I do feel he is very experienced in what he does. You are in good hands. Don't worry. But.. One thing I hate is the long waiting time to see him.. His clinic is always packed. Afew times it is so packed that I got to stand.

Rainy: Ovulation for so-iui depends on how well you respond to the medication. I did once so and so-iui and both my ovulation is around D14 which is the same as my normal cycle. The only diff is I have more than 1 big follicles..

Lil ponyo: your suppression is so long? On my day 14 of the suppression I started the stimulation jab. 2 jabs a day.. My tummy is so poor thing. So many holes now..

 

[saralyn]

Laki gal: don't worry so much. On average, the follicle grows 2mm every day.. Your lining is good!

 

[dian_tang]

Saralyn: thanks . Is there any way to improve ur lining? Maybe after the ER , the doc will ask u to insert the progesterone to give support . Anyway lining will increase as ur size of folicies increase . No worry , continue to be happy .

 

[duffy_bear]

Dear all,Thks for all the concerns...

Yesterday started on old ginger with black sugar cos no red dates at home... This morning, started my red dates long gan drink Liao...

Feeling abit cramp with abit headaches... Else still feeling oki...

My appt is next mon for blood test to check
If hcg level went down... I'm v scared...

Hopefully the injection works....

Hai, I was thinking y so funny?? During SO IUI, injection to produce more egg... Now I do injection again to stop my pregnancy.... Haaiiii.... 离不开打针的过程。。。

 

[nurul_huda]

Lakigal i m afraid it wil b a bit thick. But dun worry much of it. Some do succeed wif thick lining. Dont despair. Juz wait for Mon. I was on Puregon 200units previously for 8 days. Mine i managed to go scan onie once sadly. Dat day itself go for ER due to one of my follicle reaches 21mm but my lining as et dat day scan was 6.5mm.

Saralyn try drinking red bean soup. Helps wif e lining.

 

[depressed_gal]

Hmm ok will c how my scan on mon, hope everythin will b fine n smooth

 

[emily_tey]

Hi Laki Gal, Agnes, understand you are with dr yu in sgh. do u know if attending the ivf consultation can request the nurse for mc?

 

[mrswee_wk]

Lil ponyo, thanks for ur info. Do u know why need to suppress? My concern also which protocol is suitable for me..

Saralyn, wow u still remember me! I see result with Dr Loh and Hb is satisfied and happy with him. Each time went to visit him, at least 1.5 hours wait.. got to bring own entertainment. Are u in the midst of IVF? I haven't started mine, now resting. Maybe we seen each other before.. ^^

 

[mrswee_wk]

Rainy, for my So-IUI I stimulated from D2 to D15, D16 done an ovulation jab and D17 for IUI. It will depend on individual, follicles growth.

don't worry and stay relax.

 

[depressed_gal]

Emily, yup I'm w dr yu at SGH. I'm not too sure whether can request for mc during d consultation as tat day I'm tkin half day, but I knw if u c dr yu for consultation, can actually request for mc. Sorry cant help u much

 

[min81]

Hi emily,

I'm not with sgh for ivf, but i think it's not a problem getting an mc.. Even when i go to my gynae at nuh, national skin centre or sgh to see specialists, they always ask if i need mc..

 

[verone_baby]

Laki gal, your lining is good! Dr.zou ever told me lining wont grow very thick, it will somehow stop when it is max I.e. 12mm

Ur dosage is low! Guess ur AMH level is high and u r young

 

[depressed_gal]

Oh Prosepina if our lining will only grow to d max then tat a reliefs but 2ml I will confirm d nurse w d actual size of my lining. Err I'm not sure of my amh level, can we oso ask d nurse bout it? Wat d ideal level actually? Haha me nt young loh tat y nw wan to start a family bt then face difficulties so tat y here I'm into dis journey. Hope will get wat I wan soon. Then it b d best wedding anniversary n bday gift for dh n me.

 

[nicxl]

Laki gal, all the best to u. I am married for 5 years already. Was hoping that I have good news on my 5th anniversary, but now I just hope that I will get good news within this year.

PM Lee just announce that Fathers will have Paternity Leave! So this is good news for us all!

 

[depressed_gal]

Thks nicxl, let all jy ya.

 

[duffy_bear]

Nicxl, I oso have married for 5 years...

Hb was happy upon hearing the paternity leave for fathers too but I told him unless I'm pregnant successfully!!!

I was wishing that government could do more for ivf or assisted pregnancy to courage for couple with problems conceiving bb... It really burnt a big hole doing 1 ivf cycle... Now I oso need to scrimp $$$ for my ivf cycle next year....

 

[lil_ponyo]

Laki, hope your scan goes well today and your follicles grow big big! I still have 1 more week to go before my stimulation. My AF come yesterday so no last minute miracle for me. All it is full steam ahead for IVF!

Claris, suppression jabs is to stop the body from naturally selecting 1 egg to mature every cycle and discarding the rest. For IVF, we want all eggs to mature to harvest.

Duffy bear, how are you feeling?