IUI/SO-IUI: Anyone?

[12bhappy]

Hi kittykatty, juz to share wz u. Ive went tru IVF before doing SOIUI wz CARE @ Novena. IVF cost around 13k after 6k deduction fr medisave. The cost reri very much depends on e dosage,for mi im on quite a high dosage. Comparing IVF n SOIUI, IVF is definately a more physically n mentally more straining procedure wz risk of gettin hyperstimulated n a much regular scan is required once the size of follicle is rching 18mm n get ready fpr ER. Thereafter hv to depend on hw many of em can form an embryos n hw many can multiply e cells for ET. But of cos e percentage is very much higher which i might consider gg bak to IVF if i fail tis 2nd SOIUI. Reason y i went straight i to IVF bcos i wish to get preggy asap which i did but bb heartbeat stopped at 8wks. Thereafter gynae suggested SOIUI as hv gd chance cos i manage to conceived from the 1st IVF.
Mayb you n hubby can sit dwn n talk over the pros n cons before deciding yeah. Cheers

 

[hopingfor1]

hi ladies. I'm back and hope you're all doing well. Well unfortunately for me, the SO-IUI didn't work. AF showed up on Saturday so I'm quite down. But getting ready to do one more round before I want to try IVF in April. It's all so confusing and the cost is definitely something to consider also..

kittykatty - are you doing IVF?
Claris dear how are you?

welcome to the new ladies..

 

[mrswee_wk]

Peggy, I tried clomid only and not injections. All natural BD and failed so straight jump to IUI with injections. I suggested to my gynae to drop off clomid because having bad response plus very heaty of course I was too anxious too, wanted to try more intensive method. Lol hehe at least u tried injections, I'm very nervous now think will be starting it soon.

lets work hard together since ur Hubby has given e green line!

Jia you!

12bhappy, don't mind I ask where u did ur 1st ivf? Who is ur gynae? I'm planning to see dr loh or Angela at care If I failed 1st cycle of so IUI. Might want to try with either one. May I know e cost of so IUI at care? Kind to share ur experiences at care? Thanks!

Hopingforone, waiting for u here just wondering how r u doing. Sorry to hear that. Be strong I'm always here!

stay positive don't lose hope!

dreams will come true with baby in our arms! U start new so IUI Next month? Keep it up with our fertility food list.

btw, r u seeing any tcm? I see tcm
But only acupuncture, I just found that I actually ovulate earlier which is more normal (used to delayed 3 weeks now improves to 1week) after few weeks of acupuncture (twice a week). I'm seeing dr Zou at amk. Maybe u can consider it?

 

[dian_tang]

AB: Did ur Hubby's sperm improve after taking the supplements? Actually i dunno if he can stand the showering in cold water ha ha.. i always tell him lukewarm water is good enough

Kitty: Mine was almost same case as you.Maybe another round of IUI as IVF is quite invasive , must be emotional prepared cos more injections and egg extraction....

psp: we also did the same procedures as you. dun give up if you really want to have a baby, ok?

 

[12bhappy]

Hi Claris - I did my IVF at CARE when dey are still at paragon. Angela is e chief embryologist n gynae is Dr Paul Tseng, he is e one who did ER & ET for mi. My experience with CARE hd been very pleasant so far... Except for tis 1-2mths their theater n lab are rather bz as some other gynae fr TMC are using as well till TMC license approve,saw Dr Loh quite a few times too. My 1st SOiui was wz Dr Paul clinic as Angela was off to US,i spent abt 3k+ due to 16 jabs of gonal f @ 75iu . Tis rd im under clomid n wz CARE n Angela took care of the whole procedure. Tis round i spent about 1.7k.

 

[piggy_peggy]

Hmmm.... Since clomid is associated with ovarian cancer, I am wondering whether we can do so-Iui only with injections but without clomid.

 

[cj_junior_80]

Morning gals!

Glad to see this thread so active again.. Hi rainy and psp, rem me?

Claris, mind I add something on the accupunture? I used to do TCM at clementi Dr Tan KS. Dr Fong told me to stop 1st cos (in his words) 'TCM is good, just that sometimes when we do accupunture, when we see the egg big eunf, but in actual fact it haven mature cos make up of many bubbles surrounding it, giving a false impression that egg size is ideal liao so if BD that cycle will also failed' He is not against TCM cos when I am pregnant he encourage me to go back Dr Tan for an tai medicine which I am still drinking now.

Btw I saw Dr Zou a couple of times too as I am staying closer to her than Dr Tan but I feel she abit bo chap, you ask for accupunture she give, never ask never give type hahahahaa

Peggy, yes you can do SO IUI strictly using injection w/o any clomid.

Stay positve everyone! Babydust to all and may all your dreams come true in this Dragon year

 

[ganbatte_2012]

Rainy: DH and I are very comfortable with Dr Fong too, as he only enforce the necessary things
and most of the time, its up to us to decide what to do next.

AB: The only symptom I had was tender breasts from day 8 onwards. Don't have implantation bleeding.
Don't be too worried about the symptoms, since everyone is different in this aspect. Btw, what is you DPO now ?

Kittykatty: You're welcome! No matter what's the decision, once made, just press on! You have lots of supporters here...

Peggy: Clomid does have some negative side effects. Thus, it is not recommended to take clomid for 6 consecutive cycles/tries.

CJ: Welcome back! Yup, this thread has become quite active recently and I am having
trouble following it...heh. How are you ? Hope you are doing well! I am battling with bad MS. Have to puke 4-5 times a day...sigh.
You should be in week 10 now ? Two more weeks to go for 1st trimester, jia you!

 

[mrswee_wk]

12bhappy, thanks for ur info! e IUI 1.7k with Angela inclusive clomid + injections?

peggy, i dont like clomid too, initially started with clomid my lining is good got triple layer somemore subsequent cycle my lining become very bad afterwhich my AF become very light.. if do have budget, i would suggest u go for injections too..

CJ Junior, u mean acupuncture can actually give wrong impression that e eggs have matured but infact they are not? actually im staying nearer to Dr Tan KS, but i only wants to do acupuncture dont take medicine. Dr Tan KS usually do both right? i know Dr Zou can do acupuncture only and some sisters here do so. so just go for acupuncture to give more support.

 

[pxsjpy]

CJ: How are you lately? of course i remember you. We had the SO-IUI at the same day, i think is 26 or 28 Dec.. How is your baby?

dian_tang: What do you intend to do? IVF or IUI..

 

[pxsjpy]

Hi Claris

I saw your post about fertility food list, can i have the list?

Thanks.

 

[mrswee_wk]

psp, here is e link.

https://docs.google.com/a/st-asia.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Akn4rrFWhKUAdE51a1ZOc1RtQ21sR185Wm52a3daSmc&hl=en_US#gid=5

ladies.. watson is having sale for Blackmore Conceive Well, original price $46 for 28 days supply. Now is $23. i just grabbed 2 boxes yesterday.

 

[12bhappy]

Hi Claris, 1.7k is excluding injection. Tis round im purely on clomid only. 1.7k includes all e scans,clomid,supplements for hubby n mi,sperm wash n e iui procedure...

 

[piggy_peggy]

Claris, wahh.. so cheap! Too bad I am having bad reaction to Conceive well. Anyone wanna take over my Concieve well pills?

 

[cj_junior_80]

Ganbatte and PSP, thanks.. doing fine so far. Going for Oscar in 2 weeks time and stop my jabs yest, finally can end the dreadful 1st tri soon.

psp, dont be discourage. Go for a 3rd round of SO IUI, usually one will give 3-4 cycles a try b4 proceeding to IVF.. IVF cost much higher and the expectation and pain of failure is much more intensive too, would you like to change Gynae and have a change of luck too? Not sure you pantang anot.. go take a boat ride, old pple say take a boat ride will change luck.. good luck on your next cycle ya.. lots babydust for you!

Claris, yup something like this. Actually Dr Tan can do accupunture w/o med too. I do not know how true is Dr Fong's theory but e cycle I did accupunture my egg is ripe abt 1week b4 the norm and after hearing his advise I stop accupuncture next cycle my egg din grow much at all..

 

[mrswee_wk]

peggy, how's ur body react to Conceive Well? really bad? r u alright? so far i have no problem taking it after full meal.. u take care okie, drink more water to flush it out, then stop it le.. r u okay if just taking folic acid alone? at least e basic..

CJ Junior, after u sharing ur condition could it be actually acupuncture do help e egg to grow instead of giving false alarm? it actually give another kind of support to e ovaries to produce egg? erm.. really confused.. Dr Tan accept patient doing acupuncture only? how much per session? because im currently not undergoing any SO IUI nor IVF, just that before my treatment do acupuncture to strengthen e body, will Dr Tan prescribe medicine for me? because during SO IUI & IVF avoid medicine is understood.. thanks for sharing..

 

[cj_junior_80]

Claris, I really not sure as I am only sharing what Dr Fong said. Accupuncture ya will make it seems like e egg is growing well but it is actually inmature and make up by bubbles..so when you din do its just back to square one lor. So depending on how you see it bah? Any sinseh can also dont prescibe medicine if you insist de. Nobody can force you to buy medicine mah haha Sorry cant rem the actual cost but it shld be ard $50+-? If you feel better with Dr Zou just stick to her lor..understand that many IVF girls go to her too, maybe I just dont have the faith in her but then thats just only me

 

[dian_tang]

psp: most likely is iui . But seeing doc tomorrow. He sure discourage us to do iui but encourage us to do IVF . Hear it is a long quene for IVF in kkh .

 

[piggy_peggy]

Claris, if I ate Ccv Well after breakfast or one hour after lunch, I will vomit white bubbles. It should be the stomach acid. Then partially digested pills also get vomitted out. I am taking Vitamin B complex with follic acid now.

CJ Junior, you mentioned that with acupuncture, your egg ripe one week earlier. And without acupuncture, your egg didnt grow at all. Doesnt it mean that acupuncture help you grow your egg? If that is the case, why stop?

I just started two acupuncture sessions, and I immediately see that (based on BBT), the ovulation date is faster by 3 days than my normal cycle. I thought that it should be good.

 

[mrswee_wk]

CJ Junior, thanks for sharing anyway! lol hehe since im not eating medicine, only acupuncture. i dont really mind which sinseh do. im staying at jurong, amk is way too far for me but no choice i thought only Dr Zou, TMC, Raffles Hospital do acupuncture only.. will consider if there is alternative..

thanks!

peggy, y not u take immediately after lunch? by e time 1 hour after lunch already partial digested, not good for stomach.. where u did ur acupuncture?

 

[hopingfor1]

thank you Claris! reading your post made me feel so much better. I have started in clomid 100 mg today and always have very bad side effect - acne, vomiting, headache but dr wong said to stick to it for this cycle and we see next. perhaps i switch to injectibles though i just want to get prepped and start ivf.
i dont do tcm? is it good? i have heard very good thigns about acupuncture and just relieving stress. perhaps i look into it. right now im actually only taking folic acid supplments. what is conceive well?

 

[greatending]

Dian tang - We have yet to see the swimmers' results from our IUI as our IUI was done during lunch time and it was a little rush. Will let you know once I see my gynae.

Ganbatte - I had the HCG jab on 12th and IUI was on V-day..

Dragon babydusts to everyone trying! Fighting!

 

[mrswee_wk]

hopingforone, u take good care of urself!

i do see some improvement after few weeks of acupuncture.. it actually help me ovulate better.. since u planning to embark IVF, its good to kick start now, as it takes some time to strengthen ur overall wellness of ur body. my sinseh encourage acupuncture 2 months before IVF, and most of e ladies went there going through IVF too.. blackmore conceive well is a multivitamin to specially prepare woman body for conception. it contain folic acid, vitamin B, zinc, vitamin C, DHA, EPA, etc.. extra supplement aside from folic acid..

no harm trying, many ladies who BFP recommend this.

 

[pxsjpy]

CJ: I will try to take a boat ride to change my luck.. Pray hard

... Previously i was with Dr Loh of KKH but he has left, so my case has been transferred to Dr Jerry Chan. Do you hv any Gynae to recommend?

Dian Tang: You're right. Doctor discourages IUI and ask me to proceed with IVF, but im worried that im unable to take 14 HL leaves from work. Unless i quit my job lor.. I dont mind to quit my job to do IVF but if failed, i dont think i can take it lor...

Anyway i have booked IVF with KKH in June. Hopefully i dont have to go thru IVF. have you book yours?

Claris: Thanks for your link. I rushed to Watson to purchase a box of Blackmore Conceive Well. Oh no, the smell is unbearable. The pills are huge in size, when i swallow the pills, it struck on my throat.. Feel like vomiting...

 

[hopingfor1]

Thanks Claris! It's really excellent that you've seen improvement in your ovulation after the acupuncture. I also tend to ovulate very late (if at all) so it could help.
I'm going to head to get some conceive well pills too! How are you doing? Hope your taking care of yourself too?

Question for the ladies doing IVF - do you have to be on bed rest after the ET? or is it just advised? And is that for 14 days?

 

[sunny12]

Hi hopingforone, after ivf, u will be given mc till the day you do your blood test for pregnancy, I was given almost 3 weeks of mc when I did ivf. Is not necessary to bed rest for the whole mc. But I stay at home for 2 weeks n go back to work even I still got mc. Is it advise at least not to go out for first week. But still depend on individual. I went out on the 5th day but just take care of yourself. Dun carry heavy thing. Basically after ivf, u r considered pregnant till the day u do your blood test

 

[sunny12]

Hi hopingforone, for yr info, I did ivf in kk. So I not sure how many days other clinic or hospital will give. I speaking from as a kk patient experience. Hope the info help

 

[mrswee_wk]

psp, i hate e fishy smell, e pink tablet. yucks~ but have to.. u drink more water if not if stuck really terrible..

hopingforone, i going twice a week faithfully one weekday one weekend. Saturday doesnt get to sleep late..

but happy to see e result.. me ar.. waiting for AF to report, wonder how is this cycle because i didnt on any medication. hope it can come naturally for me to start SO IUI earliest possible. very worried will delay again because of my PCOS.. keep my fingers crossed..

u decided on SO IUI or IVF?

 

[dian_tang]

Psp: u mean the appt for IVF is in June now? Oh my god !!

 

[dian_tang]

Psp: why u can't take hospital leave? it is issue from hospital

 

[kittykatty]

Claris,
Thanks for the tips on blackmore offer. Will try and get it later

psp: Same here. Worrying about the hospital leave 2 weeks HL for IVF. Some was given 3 weeks. And not only that before the ER & ET, there's a lot of trips that need to make to hospital for scans or further dosage adjustment. Not sure myself how my boss going to re act once I inform him.

Cherrie: Can i check if Lucrin or Gonal F needs to be refridgerated? If need too, then I have to delay my IVF to another cycle as I have a short trip next month.

Thanks!

 

[sunny12]

Yes, the medicine need to be refrigerated.

 

[hopingfor1]

Thanks Cherrie Tan. That's very helpful to know. Which round are you now? Do you like kk hospital? I goto NUH. So far I did one round of SO-IUI which failed.
Claris: I know what you mean, I love sleeping late on the weekends! But for this, anything we do When is ur AF due? I also have PCOS so unpredictable cycles and AF. But I hope you get urs on time or maybe a miracle so u wont need SO IUI or IVF!

I have decided to do SO IUI this month (mainly because I have to travel again at the end of March) so can't do the bed rest. And then if it fails, I want to go in for IVF in April.

Can any of the ladies here tell me about their IVF experiences at NUH? Its so complicated with the different protocols and medicines!

 

[sunny12]

Hi hopingforone , I succeeded at the first round of ivf. I'm now in week 11. All the best to your iui

maybe u will succeed n need not think of ivf anymore. The ttc journey is never easy, we all here can understand. Jiayou

 

[ganbatte_2012]

AB: Have you done HPT already? If it is negative *touch wood*, you can try again 2-3 days later.

 

[kittykatty]

Thanks Cherrie for the info. Congratulations

Eat & Stay healthy ya!

Anyone tried TCM Dr Seah Ai Wei at Thomson? Any feedback? Thanks

 

[superwhitetiger]

Hi kittykatty, when I was doing my first ivf, I did accu under seah ai Wei. She is good, just that I found it painful, thus stopped. My hubby still seeing her for acupuncture. Works wonders for him. She 's not cheap , compared to dr zou.

 

[kittykatty]

Hi Whitetiger,
Pain ah? oh no... I am scare of pain too. Do you mind sharing roughly how much does she charge? Does she charge per time or have to sign up package similar with Dr Jin at Raffles TCM?
Thanks!

 

[superwhitetiger]

Hi kittykatty, can"t remember but I remembered sign package cheaper plus at that time, there was credit card promotion.

This is from her website
First visit consultation $20 to $50
Acupuncture per session $45 onwards
Prescribed oral medication Adult: $10 for per day dosage
Child: $5 for per day dosage
Acupressure (TCM massage) per hour $80 onwards
Acupressure for children (Paediatric Massage) per session $45

 

[superwhitetiger]

Anyone prescribed crinone after iui? I forgot to ask the clinic if it is to use today after procedure or when to use?

 

[emily_tey]

I try to buy the blackmore conceive well from watson jurong point just now.. all sold out.
wow... so many ladies in ttc journey now.

 

[nurul_huda]

Try other outlet emily. I bought et Eastpoint. But not sure e offer stil exist or nt,..

 

[kittykatty]

Hi White Tiger,
Thanks for sharing the info.
You just did your IUI today? Relax and don't stress yourself during this 2ww. Hope is a BFP for you so that you can spread some baby dust to us

I was prescribed cyclogest after iui and was advice to use it starting the night it self. Every morning and night for the next 2 week. I am not sure if crinone is the same as crinone or not.

 

[piggy_peggy]

Hi Kittykatty, may I know what is the cyclogest for?

 

[kittykatty]

Hi Peggy,
If I am not wrong, cyclogest is to help implantation and support pregnacy if its a BFP.

Have to insert every morning and lie down for half and hour before getting up and for night just insert before going to bed.
Its quite troublesome, but for the sake of BFP I guess we will do anything.

 

[superwhitetiger]

hi kittykatty, yes did my iui yesterday. but had to go back office today already.

the funny thing is i already did iui ~ 5 times and this is the first time the dr gave me crinone after that. thus, hopefully this change will help me get bfp.

 

[dian_tang]

Hi whitetiger, just have to take care . The nurse previously advised me not to swim or jog .

 

[kittykatty]

Hi whitetiger,
Wow....5 times. I admire your determination.
Yes. Have faith & be positive. Your dream will come true

 

[pxsjpy]

Ya i agree with KittyKatty. My HR and boss will definitely ask why im on 2 weeks HL. I cant tell them that im doing IVF right.

Diantang: i suggest that you better reserve a date for IVF first. You can release it later if you dont want to or dont need to... Hopefully you dont need to.

 

[emily_tey]

yeah, psp same thing in my mind too. Actually can we tell boss direct that we are for ivf? (i have yet to decide yet, as am thinking about my job, my leave and my coverer she is pregnant for 4 mths now, and she is feeling sick sometimes). I think I will definately trouble her if I really proceed to ivf..

whitetiger >> jia you !