(2012) Ivf/icsi Mommies Support Group

Faithfully, one thing I've found is that many mothers and MILs are not aware how to make Bu soup too, or have good knowledge of Bu, so maybe your MIL falls into this category?

My own parents are a bit like that, so I just try to ask around and discuss with my mum. I guess as long as one side parent is helping to prepare the Bu (like your mum), the other side parents/ in laws may choose to lie low hee... My PILs just gave us a sum of money, and so far hasn't bought me any Bu too. I think I will have to do my own research since my parents both think we younger generation are over-reacting with the Bu factor, says during their time not much Bu but yet everything turned out ok heee... So bo bian, have to be independent then.... Many parents are quite Bo chap these days, so don't feel too bothered ok
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Hi J03,

no worries, my fren whom have twins oso coping well with one maid and her mum. so i tink no problem for you as u have a helpful hubby to help out too.

Hi Tanny,

guess for baby they din remmeber anytin beforee they turned two,so is still okie. guess after two, they will remember i guess..

jus went to ban choo chan and full of people. consulted the lady boss she is quite nice and say better to let sinseh feel your pulse before taking the medicine....

anyone here knows Dr Zuo also prescribes the "pu yao" for people huh?

ban choo chan is nearer to my house. Hopeful, when you take the "pu yao" prescribed right, do you need to change the medicine every two weeks huh? or is the same prescription throughout huh?
 
HI Tromso,

I just spoke to a prudential agent two days ago and realised that they placed a cap of $2500 max for hospitalisation for baby with only $100 each day.

yup i will go check out the AXA policy ehhhehe
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Hi Sunbelle, yes dr Zou does an tai yao too but I feel Ban Choon Chong may be more popular/ reputable. I've heard from another TCM dr that dr Zou has only in recent years completed her TCM studies in Singapore, so maybe not as experienced as some established ones.

Hi Tanny, hope your vomitting will stop soon, been so many weeks right... Could it be triggered by certain food? Yes, hunger can worsen the nausea feeling, may cause vomitting hence. For me I find that a piece of wholemeal bread settles the tummy better than biscuits or powdered milk drink. Just keep eating ok
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Chrisl, you are lucky you can sleep throughout the night
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Weeks ago, if I don't get up and eat in the middle of the night, I'll get very bad gastric the next day, now water alone can fix the problem luckily. All the best to your meet up with midwife and dr, let us know if you learn anything new ok!

Hi Cook Cook, Oscar scan is typically done betw week 11-13 but it's preferred in week 12. It is to assess the risk of down syndrome via a simple scan and a blood test. Your dr should help you make the appointment closer to week 11. Meanwhile, you can google it and find out more, definitely worth a read
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Kimmy, thanks for the yoga info, will definitely find out more online. Dr Loh is so busy, last time I asked him about yoga and low placenta, he says cant see my placenta fr scan yet cos still initial stage of forming, and there is no such case of low placenta these days, so no worries for me, can start yoga anytime hmm... I think I will ask him to check for me again next visit.
 
Hi tromso if u r referring to the pregnancy policy from prudential, must b careful cos that does not cover ivf bb. For normal insurance that we can buy once bb is born u have to wait 1 mth b4 we can buy for our bb.
 
Hi Sunbelle, do you mean Prudential has hospitalization cover for baby from birth day1? Or policy only commence few months after birth?
 
I see, thanks for clarifying Catherine. Didn't known have to disclose it's IVF baby and treated differently. Interesting you said that cos my friend, natural conception, bought this Prudential life insurance and upon birth, baby found to have hole in the heart, so was covered. Dunno why IVF babies are so differently, I thought our risk is the same as any preggers after first trimester, sigh...

Meaning also no hospitalization plan covering baby since birth day 1 correct?

Sunbelle, the Prudential hospitalization plan you mentioned, it's not for baby at birth day 1 right?

Sorry I've not started research on insurance yet, just got some info from my sister who popped last year, was hoping may have better policies now.
 
Meryl, u attended WBB class on Sun too ? Maybe nex lesson, we can try identify who is who... Haha.... Where were u sitting yesterday ?

Kimmy, ya. Gotta to ask dr loh hw low is my placenta since WBB shared there are 4 diff levels. L1-2 is e ok one. Sigh.... Finger cross....

Ha... Regarding e tummy uterus, WBB touched mine n said mine bit tense n asked mi to touch some of e mummies which are really very soft leh their tummies. Aft tat, I told my hb tat my gal dun feel comfy wif his touch coz WBB asked him to do butterfly touch, my hb mischief n went to do e caterpillar style. Haha.....told my gal, naughty daddy:p

My next appt is nex wed. U leh ?
 
Hi catherine, hazel

I've being quite busy, and yesterday internet connection down, couldn't lock in.
wow the threads are moving very fast.

Yup everyday like time not enough... my gal is down with flu since sat, we bought the nose drip for infant at guardian pharmacy and also the nose mucus extractor from pigeon (recommended by fren). HB and I will be bringing her to see dr at sengkang rivervale mall, kids clinic tonite.

for massage, I've not paid nadia yet, most likely end of the massage session. My tummy has strinked quite abit since discharge. Oh remember to buy the abdominal binder from guardian, nadia recommended me to buy it, she'll teach me how to use it on her last session. Got to faithfully wear it for 1-2 mths if not tummy will become saggy!!

Hazel, How's your gal? Will she be discharging today? Yup good for you, i can't sleep le...so watched those movies that i downloaded. Hiaz like wat hb says after attending wong bb's class, we will have different thinking from CL..my CL also abit stubborn at times..HB says to bear with her, another 3wks to go.... Yup CL keep telling us is normal for kids to have flu and no need see doc, which my HB of cos disagree la, so we intended to observe and monitor her 2 days like wat my fren suggested then bring her c doc today.

Yup, engorgement is painful ah..like last evening slept until 5am, suddenly my left boobs pain ah..no choice pain also must massage and used cold tower compress lor... then quickly start pumping out around 9am after breakfast. To improve milk supply, go pharmacy and buy fenugreek, it's prescribed by my gynae to increase milk supply. Alot of my frens' gynae also prescribed them fenugreek and it works. Before you pump, drink a cup of milk/red dates tea, then start to massage your breast for like 5-10mins then start pumping. Once milk flow is established, when the time you normally pump is here, it will naturally flow out and tat's how it reminds me to start pumping.

As for massage, take light meal 1-2hr before massage. And bath 1hr before massage cos after massage u can't bath anymore.

Have you gals wash your hair yet? aiyoyoyo my CL forbids me to, say muz wait till 12th day faintz. ah...............
 
Hi ladies,

if can go for epi, i spoke to my gynae 1 week after delivery, and she said that i dilated very fast during induction is thro help of epidural.
And i spoke to nadia my massage lady, she dilated very fast too, so not in time to have epi, she said without epi very cham cos u can feel the strong pressure around your rectum and vagina area and a strong urge to push. And the midwife will ask you to hold back cos is not the time to push, so can imagine the agony and pain. However with epi, u feel nothing, very relax when contractions sets in, midwife ask us to push we just push..
 
Hazel,

heehee my tummy shrinking fast
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But abit flabby..so i always wear the wrap like wat nadia suggested through out the nite, and in the morning i took if off before i bath. Oh ya, drink either milk/red dates/soup before pumping milk and another drink after to replendish. Do you on the aircon even in the day? It was sooo hot tat my hb told me to on the aircon around 4pm so that i can catch a short nap after he saw me perspiring like hell.
 
Bliss,

hahaha ya after my hb learns the butterfly touch from Wong bb's class he always plays with my gal when she was in my tummy..
 
Hi Faithfully,

New born should bath once a day, preferably in the morning when bb wakes up. Then maybe in the evening just wipe the body will do. Tats wat my CL is doing.
BB sleeps well after a bath.
 
Chris, bb should be able to go home later this week. Is quite hard for me to pump regularly at 3 hrs interval coz bb is in hospital, rushing to & fro.. And since last night, I slept thru, so that today I feel better.. I am pumping now immediately after I came bk from hospital (hv not even eaten lunch), last pump was 7-8am.. I pump using machine for abt 20mins then I hand express.. Coz milk flow not established yet.. Hand express can get more out.. That is why I will take one hr.. I can see milk supply coming in.. If I can do it Every 3hrs, it will be faster.

On washing hair, I wash de d1 I return home with the rice wine water.

ER.. I dun think is common for new born to get flu in their first mth. They din even go out.. Where do get the virus from! Is tricky If new born gets sick. U r too accommodative with your CL. I wun be bothered what she said. Quickly being your bb go see a pD.
 
Chris, I stay in aircon room most of the time.. :p

Where do u do the massage? On the bed of floor? Need to buy a yoga mat? I dun want bed or mattress to smell of essential oils thereafter...
 
Bbliss, infant gym class is to improve bb motor skills. My big boss told me her gal cannot hop on 1 leg previously after she attended the gym class now her gal can do it. Like my cousin she can't skip and hop. Somehow she was like given cold shoulder in her ballet class and we guided her for a long time b4 she could do it. U can say its a class that tells the brain and mind to work together. The other class I want to enrol is music play school and language classes. Music stimulate right brain.

Juz had an argument with my boss no exp in handling matter I teach him what to do he dun do. Fed up I went to big boss. Big boss said i was right. Now I will not talk to my boss. Angry! 2nd argument in a day. Make my day so miserable. Argh!
 
Hi Catherine, i see.... Btw, as you have mentioned music playhse and lang classes...any recommended one ?

Oh pls... dun get angry over yr work or boss... rem yr bid D-day cmg soon ya.....Apparenatly, it seemed that you are having quite alot of issues with yr current boss and wk arrangement. Have it occur to you that u juz quit and try to source for a new one during yr ML ?

U like very xin ku like tat leh....
 
pardon me if my qn sounds ignorant.

what is a swaddle cloth, recieving blanket and hooded towel ? what are they used for ah ?
 
Oh hazel,

i suspect my gal got her flu during her 1st PD checkup on Wednesday. We brought her to Mt alvernia, her appt was 9.30am and we waited till 12.20pm to see the PD there. There was alot of sick children having fever and cough..She got her flu on Sat. Me and hb also trying to recall how she could have gotten her flu, could it be tat it was quite windy when he brought her down to sun tan on thurs etc... so now we try to wrap her up as much as we can to keep her warm.
 
Hazel,

i just lay a thin matteress on the floor for massage (seahorse brand), and on the air-con like 26 degree. i very kiasu warap a plastic sheet over it followed by a bedsheet.
Remember to bath at least an hr before your massage.
 
Hazel,

i just lay a thin matteress on the floor for massage (seahorse brand), and on the air-con like 26 degree. i very kiasu warap a plastic sheet over it followed by a bedsheet.
Remember to bath at least an hr before your massage.

Yup i can never pump every 3hrs. i try to pump at least 3x per day if i can.
 
Hazel,

Its better to have parents around to help out, cos i can't be monitoring my CL every minute. Like when i'm pumping milk, she'll be feeding my bb liao..etc
anyway waiting for hb to knock off early ard 5.30pm to bring my gal see PD at tamp blk 828, heard good recommendations from sil. Hope bb okie.
 
Bbliss, cannot quit now. My 4 mths pay is at stake. My bonus pay out is in July. All in all it's like a neat 5 digit sum at stake. No way.... Ya I v xin ku have to deal with a boss who has no knowledge yet dun listen. Old uncle what to do. I juz throw temper. Dun care.

Music school I will enrol Yamaha but only at plaza sing. It's v popular there need to do it next yr around this time. Language class... Mayb Lorna Winston or Julia Gabriel. Hb only wants my gal to have 1 day of class on weekend and one day spend with us and we go swimming, library etc... Mayb Yamaha learn until 3 yrs old then switch to learn chinese or ballet. I will teach her music myself
 
Dear gals,
My Oscar scan today seemed to go well. The fluid behind the neck is 2mm and the nose bridge can be measured. Baby's heartbeat at 155 rpm, length is now 6cm, 2 over weeks ago is at 3cm. Waiting for blood test results to confirm. At first baby not in the right position, so went to the TMC cafeteria to eat (PLS DONT GO THERE UNLESS U HV NO CHOICE! expensive and not delicious). Then after that baby is in right position and scanned for some time. Happy to see baby moving
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I also signed up for FBI card and was about to sign up for Mrs Wong BB's class when the lady tried to sell me a baby package with some perks inclusive of the lessons. The 5 lessons alone cost $304, and the package she is promoting costs $499. Anyone bought that package?

I think i'd start Mrs Wong's class on weekday evening in late april. Will be 25 weeks then.

Dear Hazel,
When can your girl be discharged? Hope she'd be discharged very soon!

Re: Chinese
MUST speak Chinese with your children at home ya? Cos they can pick up English very very easily in school!!! Trust me on this or else you will have a major major headache when it comes to your child's Chinese results next time!!! :p
 
Hi Sunbelle, you are referring to the $55 pkt herbs? If so, ya, its the same eveyrtime I go there.. U mean she did not allow u to "jump que" to see sinseh?
 
Chris, my tummy has reduced significantly.,. Hehe

Btw, why didn't u latch on? I wld, pumping milk is too much work.. Plus the sterilizing.. Crazy meh.. I wld be alot more free if not coz of this.. I just finished packing n bringing out bb's stuff.. Half done.. Tomorrow will continue..

My bb has not done all her jabs at birth coz she is on antibiotic drips. Need to wait for the effects of these drips to go off.. So PD told me will do only 1 wk later when she reviews her after she is discharged.
 
Sashamama, PD said later this wk. Most of the tubes have been taken off except the antibiotic drip tube & dr is monitoring her these few days.. Was just telling hubs that she already cost us a bomb at birth! Keke
 
Sasha I totally agree with u. My hb is excellent in Chinese I m totally opposite of him ..can speak but hardly read. So we will speak to my gal in mandarin as a family. Hb will teach her hokkein and malay to communicate with his mum and Cantonese and Hakka will b taught by my parents. I will speak to my gal in English haha.... Many of my frens send their kids to tian hsia. There is another one called Hua language but my fren said its not as effective as tian hsia. So tian hsia is also my choice too.
 
Hi Tromso,

thank you for sharing the information with me. yeah think the long queue at ban choo chan will show. hehe they closed at 2 plus. Prudential one dun really covers well so we are thinking of looking at others.

Hi Catherine,

no point quitting now cos 4mths at stake. check out how many days leave u have. maybe u wan to take a few days off to rest before delivery huh?

Congrats Sasha on your good scan. think the physical scan is very fun and touching when u see the baby moving and turning somersault lor.

Hi Hopeful,

yes, i am referring to the $55 package. she knows that i stay nearby so can go anytime hehee..mi paisheh cos like at least two years din see him liao leh..worse, forgot the card number..is BXXXX...cannot remember lor...oh yes this $55 package we are supposed to take until when huh?

Hazel, i tink is very ke xin to see baby with the tubes on. yeah look on the bright side, she is discharging soon and money can be earned back next time.

Wow Cat, you have all the languages planned out..good hehe
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Hi hazel,

oh i've inverted nipples, need to pump 1st to get the nipple out before bB can latch on. Very tough to adjust my timing to match bb's so i pump 1st, and sometimes latch on, so fat bb knows how to latch on quite well. BB big eater ah.

Good for you figure returning back ah!! Me too tummy now almost gone. Now like 3-4ths preggy. If you try to lie down more often will be better, i was running around when i discharged cos CL not around during eve and CNY.
 
Hi hazel,

My sil has being telling us to bring bb to polyclinic for her 1st appt cos pte PD very ex exp those at the hospital. But me and HB rather spend more to go bk to the same PD who handled our BB at the hospital cos he got all BB's records and also we try not to bring bb to polyclinic as alot of sick people there and bb immunity super low. However on wed when we brought bb to the pte PD at mt alvernia, we got a shock, its chaos lor, cos just after CNY alot of kids sick, even the parents are sick lor. I was complaining to HBs tat how ah, a few of the kids there are down with fever and flu..and their parents also never put on masks and just sneeze and cough infront of us. I'm not trying to be mean but look around there are at least 6 infants there waiting to see doc for their 1st appointment. Really wondered if my bb caught the flu there...aiyoyoyo
 
Just came back from an hour consultation with the midwife
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lotsa brochures and questions etc..good news she requested for me an ultra sound in the hospital..but for the Doppler device today, can't hear anything..cos 'too small' the midwife said..a tad disappointed but well there's always another time..


Tromso~
Not really slept thru cos have toilet visits 3-4 times..im counting down to 2nd trimester..you're hitting 2nd trimester soon too right or are you already in it? The midwife visit was just i ask her questions..oh only thing is that she mentioned that those prone to UTI, to get some intimate bath-gel wash specially for sensitive areas like the pte parts. Hehe..seems like im the KiaSu one as their culture is like very very relax..anyway im currently trying to continue on my readings (book of babies and infant care)..it's really insightful
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Now into just page 27 of 200+ pages! And that's just one book lol...



Sashamma~
Actually early in infancy interaction is mainly with bb's primary caregiver(s)..eye contact/ cooing/gurgling sounds/cries are bb trying to communicate. And each child's way of communicating is different
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The geez is to learn your own bb's way and teach them yours
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Catherine~
Besides TienHsia and Hua, there's another one called Berries..(TH and B are good in their own ways i think (both were my ex bosses hehe) So it really depends on what you want for your child..think there's a trial lesson kinda..tel/email to enquire
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Ladies
To share what i've read on the book i mentioned to tromso:

There is a whole long list of reflexes present at birth and they are indicators of bb's development --which i think some are useful to know:


1) Rooting and sucking reflex: If you touch the cheeks of newborns, they begin to search for a nipple with their mouth. When mouth is touched, they start to suck. (good to do this to encourage breastfeeding)


2) Hand to mouth reflex: If newborns' mouth and palm are touched, they put their hands in their mouth. This is useful for clearing mucus in the early days because when they suck on their fist, they can swallow easily.


Reading thu i am so amazed by how naturally, BBs can do these..and i am so so eager to try out on my bb myself in time to come!
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Hello Everyone,
I am new to this thread.
It took me quite sometime to come back to motherhood. I was in a TTC thread with Sashamama years back and everyone in ther BFP...
Decided to try IVF this year hence was told by her to come in here and seek advice from all of you positive ladies here.

I have some questions to ask with regards to IVF, hopefully some of you will be able to assist me.

1) Do I have the same subsidy in SGH and KKH?
2) What is the amount I have to pay in Cash?
3) How long do I have to take to start the actual process of inserting the fertilised eggs into my body?

Gynae in KKH has scheduled me to see her at the end of Feb to decide if I wan to start IVF.
 
Ya hazel, my hb also asked me on sat how much we have spent on my gal so far from tests at Kk to tcm to gynae visit. Initially i said not much (not wanting to stress him) cos we can claim some from our respectively co. Then he insist on a fig so I told him. Lucky he din react after i told him a ball park fig. Nvm we will work harder for our kid.
 
Hi Sashamama, congrats on the good scan results
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If you are eager to find out about the BT results, can call up dr Loh's clinic say next week. I did that and dr Loh returned my call this week, everything is good so it was a relief
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Can share what is the the WBB package? I only signed up the for the classes, added items were not recommended then.

Wow Chrisl, you are already reading up on childbirth and beyond. I'm getting stuck with the wordy What To Expect book and have moved on to the pregnancy/ parenting magazines, quite interesting stuffs
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Thanks for the tips on reflex and fish papaya soup!!

Chris baby, hope the sweating method works and your gal will get well soon.
 
Chrisl, ok I will check on berries. Since u know the benefits of ts and b, mind sharing?

Sun belle, I have 16 days of leave. 10 can b carried forward. Hmmm take a few days ... Boss dun allow. Ask me to keep working. Siao one la I juz take mc lor later gg to see my gp. I juz bu shuang with him today. Heehee on the language, I must tap on resources. Everyone has its plus points so juz ask them to help

Chris, I dun like polyclinic. V noisy there and must wait v long. If my gal is ill i go to my gp. I do agree pd charge v high. The other thing I intend to do is to go polyclinic to ask for referral letter to c pd at Kk. I have to think if its workable as i have preferred pd at kk. Like that cheaper and can claim lol.....
 
Tromso~
welcome welcome haha i nothing much to do mah..better to do some good readings instead of watching TVB everyday..my mum said 'tai jiao' very impt also lol
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Pinkiemummy~
Sorry wasn't from KKH or SGH so can't really reply you on that
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But then for nbr 3) it actually depends on your protocol cos different ladies go thru different depends on body..some short protocol some long protocol..but ranges 2-3,4mths(including suppression stage,stimulation stage then Egg Retrieval(ER), Embryo Transfer(ET) ) If you start end Feb then MIGHT finish cycle by say late May?
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Catherine, u wan to choose pd in KKH hv to be private patients. U go polyclinic get referral letter to KKH pd is Subsidised patient n each time the bb sees different PD.
 
Chris & Catherine, I hv to get the PD to give me a report (ya, dunno how much she will charge for the report) why bb was admitted to TMC.. Coz I wan to buy hoapitalisatoon plan for her ASAP after she is 1 month old... If not, even KKH is ex.. My gf brought her bb to KKH A&E and was warded at A class. She told me 2 nights stay estimated cost $2kplus.. Terrible right?
 
Catherine~
They uses different methods and in house syllabus (mostly roughly the same(for the lower levels)-- ranging from rhymes, songs, recognizing simple 'bihua' and words,stories, games. Each sch has their own set of newly learnt word cards/worksheets(done in class&no homework) to bring home after every lesson. Apart from this, long before(say 10yrs ago) Berries strictly don't use teachers from china, cos each hv their dialects and tones..but then say these few years as it's getting more difficult to get local teachers, they hv included teachers from china as well in their teaching staffs..But TH has been having teachers from china from the very beginning..actually i think every school has their own environment and do drop by and see the environment for the different sch/diff branches and it's a different feel every where..see where you think your child will like..cos children learn and grow positively from a good environment
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And of course see/compare fees&timings (some are weekends and some are weekday nights)..cos till then you have to think of your wallet and schedule
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Thx Chrisl. I will check it out next yr.

Hazel, isn't it scary that bb med bill can b v shocking... On my plan to c a kk pd, it flop cos I juz found out that pd is only a specialist next yr. My gp said dun waste $ he will c my bb and all claim my hb co. How's yr bb today?

Meryl, I was told the other dr ong At united square charges v v v ex too. My gp recommend me a pd who is formerly kk. Clinic name is kinder something. Location, opposite henry park school. I will research more tomorrow cos I m on mc!!! Haha
 
Hi Chris, ok will get abdominal binder tomorrow. Is it free size? My gp juz now ask me m I doing my squat. For a while I reacted slow, then I remembered u mention abt squats... Haha told my gp not until my gynae said so.

Hi hazel, forgot if u update about yr hospital bill. Affordable? Has yr cl arrive?
 
Catherine, yes posted the bill on Sat posting. U may wan to read the archive. Told agent to delay CL coming till bb is home..
 
Dear Chrisl,
Glad to hear ur appt went well! When is your ultrasound gonna be? And thanks for sharing tips!!!

Dear Tromso,
Glad to hear your oscar scan results went well! The so-called package includes WBB's class fees plus $100 for $1000 worth of purchase at the chop at TMC, plus free delivery for full month cakes, plus free workshop on weaning, plus a professional coming to see you after you deliver. I doubt it's worth it cos I don't intend to buy stuff from there.

The lady wanting to sell me kept saying WBB's class is 300 plus. The 'package' is 499. Eventually i asked 300 plus is exactly hw much, she said 304. Meaning the difference is nearly $200 lo! I doubt I'd get!!!

Dear Chris Baby,
Do update on the Tampines PD ya? I'm staying in Tampines. THANKS!!!

Dear Sunbelle,
Yes, it is indeed very satisfying to see baby move around for so long. Hehe... First room i went to no tv, only got the screen beside me. Then baby not in the right position. Then when second try, it is a different room and different sonographer and there is TV other than the screen, easier for me to see baby. During the scan, also measured arms and thigh bones.

Paiseh havent send u the document i compiling. Super messy, i wanna add some headings first ya!!!

Dear Faithfully,
I also think your folks are rather senior at 70. Are they the very active type who exercise daily and very mobile? Taking care of infant especially at night can be very exhausting. Bathe baby or change diapers must keep bending also.

Dear Pinkie,
welcome!!! You may prefer to post at the other thread ya? A lot more ladies there who can help!!! Jiayou!!! I visit that thread daily too!!!
 

Earlier I haf posted a qn on what is a swaddle cloth, recieving blanket and hooded towel ? Can any sis here share what are they used for ah n wat r they actually?
 

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