(2008/06) June 2008

<font color="blue">cactus,
no difference meh?? i tot got difference leh..aiyoh..so fan..like dat we can nvr noe whether we dilate oredi anot unless doc examine lor..sigh.. </font>
 


<font color="aa00aa">bizz, my hubby tot dilation means will pop straight away. Tats why he tot if 3 cm dilation, then baby can be delivered liao.

Now, my hubby is more impatient than me in this waiting game. Coz he told me his collegues keep asking him why he still working and how come i still hvnt pop. Within a day he has to repeat the answer for few times. He said make him look like he's the one goin to give birth.</font>
 
Linda
I also have thouhts of stuffing her mouth or throw her out the window when her crying totally drives me up the wall.

Now her poo-poo a little greenish, my mum said she got scare thats y.

Modern vs traditional mum
sure got ideas that clash
 
christina
whats wrong?

Felicia
When is Dr Ang going for his holidays? Pray hard u will pop b4 that.
I must said he did a good job on the stitching of the wound.
 
nekowong, ya, heard that day a lot of ladies gave birth. I think I reached the delivery waiting ward at around 3.30pm. My son cried while bidding me goodbye, shouldnt have let my hb brought him there coz his crying broke my heart.

Around 4.30pm, two mummies were pushed out with babies by their sides. I gave birth at 10.33pm. But that time, also got a no of ladies in labour, so only a couple of nurses available to attend to me after my delivery.
 
Star/Pris,
My ger got fever (38.5) on wed evening then me ask the CL y suddenly she got fever and did not 1 2 drink her milk for tat whole day then CL say tats ok for bb 1 cos bb tends to sleep more 1. But me n hb did bring my ger to clinic at my place but the doc suggest to bring back TMC cos bb is less than 1 mth. So we end up in TMC and the PD say need to admit cos fever too high liao. And me stay wif bb in TMC. Then need to do blood test, urine test and need to draw water from her back to test the brain water cos fever too high liao. Me so heart pain until me cry throughout the nite everytime me see my bb. But lucky her bain ok but got urine infection and there's bateria on her blood so need to jab antibotics 2 times everyday. Doc did tell tat becos bb lack of fluid intake so got urine infection and her jandice suddenly went up to 19. So need to phototherpy.
 
hi all !! am still here not delivered yet !
i am 40 +5 days now ... still praying for natural delivery (cuz doc prefers to induce at 41 weeks)
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Cactus: u are right, pill - helps to thin the cervix, while the drip (oxytocin - sp ??) makes your uterus contract to bring on labour.
My doc prefers the pill to the drip. i think it's more gradual - apparently with the pill, you can insert it in the morning and walk ard then deliver at night !
But with the drip (in my expereicne with #1) it was really very quick, within 1 hour, i cld feel MAJOR contractions !
 
Lucky her fever went down the 2nd day and her jandice went down also and no longer need to phototherpy on 3rd day but still on antibotics and yesterday she have oral antibotics so today can discharge so tat we can feed her antibotics at home too. And the nurse also told us tat my bb got alot of wind and ask whether did we burp her each time after meal, then the CL say she only drink abit so no burp her and she did not know how to burp her also. Me so fed up of the CL till like feeling telling her to go back home. Me also tell my hb not to bring to TMC cos me dun 1 2 see her face.
 
Veniz - Actually I felt the same way too...waste $$$. I was practically washing the cloth diapers once a day coz cannot tahan the urine smell lah. In the end, DH forced me to get the disposable. We buy the cheap-cheap ones.

neokwong - Welcome &amp; Congrats!

Christina - *hugs* So sorry to hear that! Sending over lots of quick healing vibes!!!

KOng - Wow...5 days overdue? Jia Yu! Hope that you will deliver naturally. Me hoping the same thing too. My #1 was 40W1D. So, hope that #2 will not want to challenge her bro...he!he!

Star - That's the older generation beliefs lah. If I am not mistaken, greenish stools is due to BM lah.

bizznow - My obgyn also do not believe it VE. He keeps saying that when the fruit is ripe and ready, it will fall off naturally..he!he!

bizznow &amp; cactus - Sending over lots of ELVs and natural delivery vibes!!!
 
JP,
Tks, now me taking care of my ger ger myself and the CL only do housework and cook cos me dun 1 her to take care of ger ger liao. But me know how to handle my ger ger better liao.
 
JP - Thanks!!!

K Ong, I really hope to go as naturally as possible so just want to keep my spirits up and trust that my body knows what it is doing. I've not had a show yet, but have been alot of mucous like discharge. not the show though cos not bloody. Really hope my contractions become more and more established. like Ellysia. I dare not hope my labour be as smooth as Soyabean's. Good thing is my bb is a good weight. 3.2kg now, and putting on just under 20gm/day. Head circumferance at 32.9cm. I'm hoping to avoid induction till week 41, like you! My doctor is more keen to induce at week 40 + 3 days although if the amniotic fluid is sufficient (doing liquor volume at week 40+ 1) I will request to induce on 30 June 08 (week 41 +1). Hb's and my joint decision. Doctor siad he will leave it entirely up to us. Actually the clinical guidelines on induction of labours (MOH issued) says to induce only if beyond 41 weeks! Not at 40 weeks + x number of days. That's if no medical issues with mother or baby lah.
 
Cactus - Talking about contractions, aiyoh, every nite, contractions will come. Time and time it like a silly woman...then, it stops..haiz!!!
 
cactus,

I ever heard tat sometimes if bb poo inside and eat his own poo, need to go for emergency c-sect.

I have show for 2 days before my real contraction start. Before show i have on and off contractions for 2.5 weeks.

When my real contraction start, my hb still suspect its those false ones! He ask me to monitor. I also dun want to go hosp so soon. tats why i ren until 2hrs. But then cannot walk properly liao, so no choice go to hosp. If not i intend to ren for 4-5hrs since its 1st born mah. no need to rush down so soon.
 
Ellysia - I think hor this time around, I am like you. Kena contractions but nothing also. Will just wait and wait till it happens lor.
 
JP, sounds like me!!! How often have your contractions been? How frequent and for how long ah? So far mine only 20 minutes 1 contraction, for 2 hours. each contraction less than 1 minute.

Ellysia, yes, if bb is overdue, mature, will poo inside. if breathe in own poo or eat it down, may cause infection. But it is not a big deal, cos the risk is low, and can be cured with antibiotics given to bb after birth. But of course, there is a risk lah. That's why I'm not keen to carry bb beyond 41 weeks.. cos it's a much higher risk of bb pooing or pooing alot.
 
<font color="aa00aa">Star, Dr Ang on holidays since last Sat till today. Will be bak on tmr, tats why i'm goin bak to see him tmr. Funny thing is he gave me the zenmolin pills to eat saying to relax womb, but i found my contractions is lesser when i'm eating tat pills. I finished it last 2 days then this 2 days i can feel my contractions is more frequent.
Today onwards i'm goin for my squatting and tailor position again coz i know Dr Ang is coming back. haha....</font>
 
cactus,

My induce is not a lot i tink.. i heard nurse told me tat my gynae instruct not to give more than 1 dose/jab or someting like tat.

My gynae also instruct them not to give too much epi at pushing part. I tink she ctr on my epi tats why i still can feel a lot at pushing part. In fact i wanted to add more cos me in pain cannot tahan, nurse dun allow me say gynae instruct not to put too much.. in the end to relieve pain they give me a shot of epi.
 
Felicia,

i only know my bb poo inside when waterbag is break cos got yellowish colour. But dunno if he got eat his poo or not. And my bb is born few days before term.
 
Felicia, if bb poo, once waterbag is ruptured, can tell cos will be greenish/blackish.

Ellysia, I will definately ask my doctor to monitor the amount given to me by drip and to check the epi level esp for the pushing stage if I really need epi. I don't mind induced labour as long as it is as close to natural labour as possible.
 
Hi Linda, star,
Hai think our bb do drive us crazy. I was so freak out now whenever I hear her cry really. Now raining the more I scare cos she doesnt let us tie(in her nappy) recent and we decide to release her hands out and just use something to light to press against her. But rain so heavy n thunder roar, my mum she tie her up again and she keep crying! I blow up my temper cos hardly get to rest so afternoon normally after my lunch I will try to nap while my mum is around and Waken up by her cries. Sometime I also really feel like throwing her outside... I am a bad mommy..

Alot tell me to consider use sarong BUT I wont lo. If really sarong my mil will make alot comment too and I having headache again for the rest of my days... so rather bear wit it now
 
JP : thanks !

JP/Cactus : am also getting irregular contractions every evening but nothing major to warrant rushing to the hospital :p

Just checked today and fluid/placenta is ok, so Gynae is still happy ...
He's "alloweing" me to go up to 42 weeks provided i come in for a scan once every 2 days.

was chatting with a midwife at his clinic, and she says if we get those backache cramnpy feeling, it means labour is just round the corner !
Some of us wont have the bloody show - as we wld be losing the mucus plus a little by little each time and it's not very obvious.

so who here is still waiting ?
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Felicia, yah, Ellysia is right. cannot tell whether bb eat his poo or not even if he poo. actually, chance of bb eating or breathing in his poo is very small even if he poo-ed. Even IF he ate/breathed in his poo, doesn't mean he will have an infection. My nephew ate his poo (saw traces of poo in his mouth at birth) but he also never have any infection. Even IF have an infection, can give antibiotics to cure it. so not a big deal. alot of doctors practise defensive medicine.. they rather just stick well within the guidelines, but if you believe strongly for something, my suggestion is to do your own research, try to have it as localised as possible.. then talk to your doctor about it. At the end of the day, the final decision is yours and your hb's. Ur doctor can advice but that's all.
 
K Ong, your doctor is really nice to let you wait till 42 weeks!
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Good for you! What's your bb's weight now? And the head circumference? My fear if I wait till 41 weeks is that my bb may be bigger than I can cope.. but so far ok still - cos 32.9cm (head circumference) and weight is 3.2kg at 39 weeks exactly. I think bb will be about 3.3kg at 40 weeks, and head circumference should be about 33.5cm at 40 weeks. Think it's still managable.
 
Cactus - Mine contractions often starts at nite..aiyoh. Yesterday's was really crazy. Started at 1.50am - 3.00pm. 6-7 mins apart. Wanted to wait till 3-4 mins apart before going in to TMC coz #1 is sleeping mah. But, it stopped! Sian!!!

Ellysia - Yup, its super sian! *haiz*

K Ong - Har, 42 weeks? Yup, the crampy feeling like backaches has arrived, contractions also but still NOTHING...sian man.
 
cactus : i haven't checked on weight and head circumference since week 38. dont think my doc is too worried abt those measurements...
sld be fine la
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K Ong, I lost 1.1kg over 1 week (from week 38 to week 39) so my doctor checked on the weight of the bb. He usually takes the head circumference in the computation of the weight estaimate.

JP, sounds like your contractions are fantastic!! over 2 hours and 6 to 7 minutes apart!
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Hang in there.. maybe true labour will come soon!! Do you know if your cervix is dilated?
 
Felicia,
My workplace super family-unfriendly de. Simi facilities ma bo. I am still wondering if I need to express in the toilet. -.o" There is a microwave in teh pantry, but not noce to use it to sterlise my pumps lah. So I think the pill will be the easiest.

Veinz,
6 months!!?? I was hoping tp squeeze back into my pre-preggy workclothes. Looks like no hope liao. Another reason to shop. ;p I still have 5kgs to go. I am hoping to go back exervising next week. Next week is my 6th week after delivery. Must wait 3 months?

Cythnia,
My bb was super cranky last night and I barely have 4 hours of interrupted sleep. She too can suckle for > 1 hour then cry for milk 1 hr later. This morning, I really feel like giving up breastfeeding. Haha. I am still trying my best. I hope to tahan until I go back to work. You tried your best liao.
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Re: Sleeping at breast + frequent feeding
When I have that trouble, I will feed my bb EBM. She dun have problem of nipple confusion, so I can easily switch her back to latching. It is easier and lesser effort to feed via bottle, so she tend to drink more and demand feeding at longer interval. Bbs who are pre-matured or have jaundice tend to sleep at the breast. If really the case, no point forcing them to latch on. Very taxing on the mummies. Hehe.
 
Cynthia,
Jia you, jia you. I had that tot (of throwing my bb out of the window) a week ago too. I was so tired and was breastfeeding her. She will suckle until she fall asleep. The moment I unlatch her to burp her, she will wake up and start getting cranky. This went on for over 1+ hr and I felt so fustrated. I was so worried over that tot that I have. I tot I am gg into depression. Didnt dare to tell hb until later the next day. Hb very worried too and kept telling me to wake him up if I cannot handle. ;p Now I ok liao. Will still get fustrated when I am very tired and she's cranky + keep demanding feeds. But no more such horrible tots. Jia you. Can your hb help? At least muct give you morale support.
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Cynthia
Same like u, I try to nap at noon. But I just fell asleep for 15mins, she will start crying again. I try to put her in sarong (w/o shaking her. I am desperate. I am a believer of all things now and will try everything) but she lie in there for 1min and start screaming again.
If I just let her cry, she will cry till no more voice and like about to lose her breath.

sigh........
If only the moment they are born, they can talk.

My back really aching from all the carrying around.
 
Zuen
That day I so cant handle my bb who cried from 1.30am till 5+am. I was so stress and tired. Later in the noon, I suddenly broke down as I felt so lonely. I really thought I was on the verge of depression.

My HB got so scared that I will really go ga-ga. Heng after talking it out makes me feel better lo.
 
ladies, shag man after coming home for 1 day nia...

think my massage lady go fly kite liao.
any recommendations? Wld like to start my massage asap.

Thanks!
 
HI Cynthia, star and zu en,

I have the urge too to throw bb out of window too. After every feed, he will doze off but when i put him back to bed, he will cry again and demand for carrying. Even if i carry he will still cry sometimes. I cannot tahan and will scold him.
 
MLP,

Me not taking up my massage.. cos me ored slim down through bf. if u want i can recommend u to her? mine is auntie su.
 
mylittleprince

u may want to try sadiah..i'm hving a session w her this fri..she just called me and told me that she has a free slot tomm at 12pm..call her if u r interested.97724579
 
Hi cynthia/star/ ellysia
haha... Mine does that esp at NITE!! i can bring him to the room at 10pm, feed him and he doesnt sleep till 12+ 1 am. Thats is from a boy who can sleep anywhere anyhow right after milk in the day time ok? Wow lau.
My poor elder end up not sleeping too.
Btw, how much milk are your babies drinking? My boy is at 120mls now wor...

Cynthia, i am worst lor, cos he is #2, i kind of got immune to his crying. Last time my #1, cry little already i heart pain, now ah? hahaha.... cry cry lor.
 
Cactus,
My gynae say if BF, 99% will not get pregnant unless we stop. Originally, I plan for #2 next year, look like need to have a change due to BF.
Do u intend to BF?

JP,
I thot BM poo is yellowish?

BF,
Do we have to sterilise the pump? I usually sterilise once and use hot water to wash before each use. My company don have much facility.
 
guys
are all jaundice babies like that?falling asleep after latching on for abt 5-10mins?my baby just wont wake up after that to continue (no matter what i do to disturb him)...he is definitely not getting enough milk ...and seems like the latching also got problem...always taking in e nipple portion only..(could it be because he is too used to my bottle feed for express milk?)..Hiaz stress like dunno wat.....
 
Connie, yup. I plan to BF but plan to build up milk supply up to 6 months' supply then stop by pumping excessively beyond bb's demand, including night pumps. I'm working part time in the afternoons after bb is born after my ML ends.. so should be able to wake up every 2 or 3 hourly at night to feed bb directly and express too. My boss has given me green light to express in office too, so that's a done deal. It's true that we won't get pregnant if we BF but only if we BF exclusively. This means, BF-ing or expressing at least once every 4 hourly or feeding bb upon demend with no supplementation of fluids of FM. I plan to rest for 3 months after delivery, then try for #2 immediately.. so have to work hard to build up milk supply within 3 months, then from 4th month onwards, taper off the supply but still maintain enough milk for bb up to 6 months.
 
Christina, so sad to hear about your dd. My CL also Indo Chinese, but so far so good lor, only that she does not know how to cook french toast and only speaks hokkien which I speak only 50% of it. But good think is hb is good in hokkien and if I need to tell her anything, just show her, demo or point with some duck chicken language.

Cynthia, dun think of throwing your darling out ok. Babies cant talk we also have to ren. My gal if cannot sleep in night, will pretend to look for milk by opening mouth face left and right coz she wants pple to carry. In the end, CL brings her to me, I let her suckle to sleep then put her back in her cot.

Linda, my gal sleeps 11.30pm every night. But she will still wake up a while before sleep again.

Zuen, it depends on individual on the sliming down part. I am sure we will still have flabs tummy and will have to work hard on those rolls.

JP, yesterday threw lots of '$$' away leh. My gal urine a lot, so threw diaper away, then halfway feeding, she poo again. Threw again. After that, wake up, poo while sleeping, aiyo, like never stop like that, sianz. AT least yours is cheap brand, my hb and mil insist on pampers, although not I buy but I hardpain about it.
 
Linda,

Mine is the worst i tink. Mine will cry from 3am to 9am, need to carry around.

I dunno how much milk my boy is drinking cos i latch most of the time. He used to drink 90ml FM at hosp so we still try to stick to the same amt. However yest PD says his weight gain is a bit high so me tinking to reduce his milk amt. however dun give him milk he also will be cranky.. so tough
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Veniz,

at least yrs suckle will sleep. mine suckle liao pretend to sleep then once put down on cot will wake up and cry. Then he will search for nipple, then put him to breast again he will suck until sleep but once put back to cot he will wake up again.. this cycle will repeat again n again until he is so tired he will concuss to sleep. by then we adults ored half dead.

Mine also will poo, then cry to change. change then poo again. so our pampers also used up v fast. me also use pampers.
 


Zu En,

I also have some fats can't reduce despite BF. I dun tink i can squeeze back to pre-pregnancy clothes cos my hips size has expand. So likely have to spend some money to revamp wardrobe when ML is going to end. I haven't have the time to go through my wardrobe yet cos previously i have keep away some work clothes for my pregnancy clothes, now have to do the reverse.
 

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