(2008/06) June 2008

cactus,

My old pri school ored no more liao, i tink.

No, i dun tink it is necessary to enter into top pri or sec schools to get a good education or to get a good degree. Doesn't mean that if one dun get into top or good schools, one cannot get a good degree such as legal or medicine.

What i see is in my uni class are top scholars from top sec schools and top JCs. RJs and VJCs. So I am v proud to say i am a fully made neighbourhood school kid. I didn't have a good pri sch or sec sch background but i still manage to score good results on my O and A level results and get a good honors degree. I have JC classmates who score straight As and have better results than those top 5 JCs students.

But I do not deny that good schools provide a better environment for learning. But not every kid can adapt to top schools or sap schools learning. If kid is able to take that kind of education, then it be good for him. If he is not able to cope, i will rather send my kid to a neighbourhood school but of course a good one (as in strict discipline). Neighbourhood schools also have different grading and standards.

My hb is a fully-made SAP school/top schools kid.
My hb frens are all doctors. I seen his frens' chatting topics etc, as compared to my frens' chatting topics. Sometimes they will compare and complain on career, work etc. I find that they dun really know what the normal folks or how fortunate they are. They compare on number of As in school and how much $ or car when working. Whereas neighbourhood sch kids are struggling to pass their subjects (let alone count As).

Maybe i seen both worlds (neighbourhood schs and good uni), I tend to treasure my education much better.

Sometimes i tink that top schools may bring networking, but they tend to live in their own world.. bec' most kids who attend those schools are rich.. can be also quite snobbish too. Not all are snobbish of course, but it somehow give me the impression that most are somewhat this way.

As for network, u need not to have a good education to know people who work in high places. Working can also obtain connections.
 


depending on the nature of our jobs, it may not be possible to know people of different professions when we are working. most of them, it may be limited to just our work type. also, the friends that we make as primary school children are the most "real" friends in a way, cos friendships then are so innocent. Of course, we definately make good friends in sec and JC too.

There are some neighbourhood schools that are up and coming like sengkang primary. gongshang and st hilda's are good too. they have good principals. Unfortinately, in govt schools, MOE has all the say in transfering teachers and principals, unlike independent schools. I feel gongshang is not so good in recent years compared with over 4 years ago. maybe it was the change in principal. can't tell.
 
on the topic of education, is there anyone who studied economics here? My cousin is quite adament on going to LSE to study economics. My uncle and aunt are quite concerned about his choice. Does anyone know how the prospect is in today's job mkt?
 
cactus,

Of course everyone want to have good career and good results. What i am saying is one doesn't have to be in top schools to achieve that. Though it makes it easier bec' it provide a better learning environment.

I guess its a different opinion. I am not so career minded. Me quite satisfied with my current career so far. Afterall, I have classmates who got better honours than me but didn't manage to get into my current company and ended up with jobless. So sometimes i tink, hey there are people who are worst off ored.. so I am contented.

LoL i guess no end on debating on this topic. And debating with a lawyer too :p Guess we go back to motherhood topics
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cactus,

Neighbourhood schools really have many gradings, hard to see sometimes.

I feel that good discipline is v impt. I knew some neighbourhood schools discipline v bad and students smoke etc, though their results are not that bad.

Travelling is an impt factor too. If travelling is too far for kid, may be v tiring for him/her to absorb or have time to do homework etc.

I have a good fren who studied econs in NUS. Btw she got straight As and a place to mass comm but she lose interest in mass com and went into Arts to study econs instead. Anyway she ended up with a banking job and doing v good in her career. Seems like econs students are in need in banking, financial sector.
 
Ellysia, thanks for sharing about econs. the issue with this cousin is he is a top student.. like within top 10 of PSLE, top schools, dun know what else to say about him loh. Very very good academic results all the way. Unlikely to have any probs in getting into medicine (already have something verbal by NUS) but last minute want to study econs and if he doesn't get a scholarship, he wants his parents to pay for him! My uncle is not poor but this is the 1st of 3 children. he can't be sure if his other 2 children need his $ for a decent edcuation cos they are not as bright as him. That's why he is concerned. I have no friends who studied econs so asking around for him.
 
cactus,

Its ok i work with many lawyers due to my work, so i can understand
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Dun compare yourself with others lor. Else its never ending.

Your cousin case is like my fren. Her results also so good, no problem in getting any top degree courses but she chose arts. I also told her that time, why waste her results.
But sometimes, this kind of studying watsoever really depends on interest. If the person has no interest in those "top" degrees/courses, no point forcing him/her.

Why i say this is bec' I have a JC classmate. She dislike commerce (we are in commerce stream) and she wanted to study Polytechnic course - biotechnology but her parents want her to go uni so force her to study JC (but apparently her results can't make it to science stream). In the end, after her A Levels she still go to Poly!

Then recently my hb's fren gave up his doctor career and his doctor bond (he paid up his bond) to go overseas to study Biz bec' he dun like medicine. He was forced to study medicine in uni by parents too.

So i guess better dun force kids to study wat we tink is good for them, they may not tink so. No pt forcing and end up they are not happy.
Some people really study according to interest. Not like what we think - got to study the best stream/course we can achieve (so that can obtain the best shining or good career in future).
 
ellysia, cactus.....

Hmmm, all these talk about uni courses..... you all really plan very far ahead for your little ones.

For me, I just want to focus on the early growing years when they are 0 - 6 years old first. Babies now have so many new learning tools.... find myself very outdated if I stick to what my mum does with me.

Anyone knows where I can find resources on signing with babies? Hope to pick this up. Want to try on my #1 first, then next time when #2.
 
ellysia,

Looking more for what we can do with bb before playgroups. Eg flashcards or some games we can do at home with them.

find that I'm always running out of ideas to keep my #1 occupied. He gets bored so easily. End up letting him watch TV, which I hope to have less of.
 
Hi Ellysia! I just got back to IL's place so managed to log on for a while before dinner!

The issue with my cousin is he die die also want to go overseas to study econs, even no scholarship also want to go. It's not that my uncle wants him to die die study medicine but rather why he wants to do econs overseas. Is it that good? I don't know. He asked me. But I know LSE is a good uni.So just asking about whether local mkt is good for LSE students, etc.

Piyoz, there are loads of resources on flashcards, but I'm not sure if they are absolutely beneficial. I'm planning to use the montessori method with our bb. there are baby games we can do - like gymboree publications. can check out at your nearest library!
 
Cactus,
LSE is a good uni! I'm sure he can try for the big firms like Accenture, Mackenzie etc. I was previously with Accenture and I know they focus a lot on academic results and hire a lot of the good overseas uni graduates eg Brown Uni, Imperial College, u get the pic. So I believe he has no prob with the consulting firms or banks but also depends on what he wants to do lah.
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Ok, am out of here. Cheers!
 
hi all, long time never log in here again sorry :p

hearing about all your romantic husbands makes me jealous, my engineer hubby is as unromantic a man as you can get hahaha!

btw please update for me on the chart, my #2 is a mickey, 427grams at 20 weeks 5 days.

anyone of you 2nd time mummies have problem with disciplining your first born? my boy is so naughty now i don't know what to do. friends asked me to get a cane, they said it's very useful but i feel hurt when i whack my boy lei, he's so cute when he smiles i just melt
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here are a couple photos of him i took last CNY, wishing all of you a very happy lunar new year!

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tera, my #1 is 7 months old now. Attention span still quite short.

cactus, haven't tried the library yet =) k, will probably pop by one of these days.

maryann,
your boy very cute. must be happy that he'll have a di di to play with soon. How old is he now? Yes understand what you mean about the smile melting your heart part. They give just the most innocent and sweet smile, don't they?
 
Hi gers,
Good morning..

Ellysia, cactus,
Oh gosh, you gers are really thinking far ahead. Education costs are rising and competition is indeed stiff. I have not even got past the stage of which breast pump, baby cot and car seat to buy.. and I hear you gers debating about education. I was just discussing about that with hb yday. I was asking him about wat to do if our bb doesnt perform up to our expectations academically. Must be the influence of "I not stupid 2" movie that I caught on TV during CNY. ;p

maryann,
Your boy is so sweet.. really nice smile..
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Hi ZuEn

What he offered me is Antenatal package –S$800 (Fr 20th week onwards) & Normal Delivery – S$800.00. I will have my detailed scan on on 18th February and intend to signup Dr Kee package then. Can you email me your name for my reference? My emails add is [email protected]

Thanks a lot for your help... this will really help me save a lots...

JKyeo
 
Morning ZuEn and FeiFei!

feifei,
When is your next check-up? Didn't seem to hear anyone's updates after detailed scan. Quite curious about the weight gain.

Maryann,
Your boy's smile is so cute! Very photogenic.
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piyoz,
Oh I see. Yah, 7 mths would prolly have a short attention span. I wanted to suggest like simple puzzles but then realised he's too young. Guess can try the library as what cactus suggested. Sorry, couldn't help much.
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morning ladies!

want to ask u all a qn. yesterday, my minnie has been giving me funny movements. she seems to be bouncing up and down, so much and so hard until it seems like she's droppping out..... it's not kicking....

anyone has such experience? Any idea what is it?
 
hi cactus,
thanks for the assurance. i was thinking what was happening. how come the bb seems to be bouncing and wanting to drop out! aiyo....
 
Tera,
My next apptis this fri =D...looking forward to seein gmy bb lor..cos can feel her movements and kicks now..even in e middle of e nite..can even play withher at times...so cute...when she kick, i press slighlty on my tummy, then she kick again, then i press, she quiet down...;p.

iamsnow,
i din experience this wor...hmm..
 
iamsnow,

Sometimes bb movement can be quite vigorous.

All,

Yest i stand too long in the morning during company CNY celebration. Keep feeling weight pressing on my uterus. Wonder do u all feel the same when u stand too long?

feifei,

Yr bb responds to u?

Mine if i tap, won't move one. When i move my hand away then he will move. So if i want to calm him down, i will touch tummy.

Yest hb put his hand on tummy and can felt bb movements liao.
 
Cactus,
Aiyoh, you don't sound stupid lah, it's a valid qn.
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But I'm afraid I don't have a ready answer on that one. I can try asking my colls later cos I know she has some frens working in UK/US.
 
feifei,
Ah ok, keep us posted!
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Mine is next wed.

Hehe, ur bb so cute, you can play with your her. My bb will usu not move if I place my hand on my tummy, like purposely one. After I move my hand away, it will start to action. Hubby has managed to feel the movement a few times and the 1st time he felt it, he had this very amazed look on his face. Haha.
 
Hey Tera, thanks so much!! My uncle is quite concerned about this son and wnats the best for his son. If his son stands a chance of being employed overseas after LSE, my uncle is prepared to let him go but he needs to mentally prepare his 2 younger siblings and his wife.
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Hi Ellysia, when I stand for more than 15 minutes, I will usually feel lower tummy pain. but I believe that's due to ligament strain from standing up too long. our bbs are very safe during 2nd trimester. only problem now is premature labour.
 
i think bb sometimes are very naughty. when they know u want to feel their kicks, they will purposely stop. when u take your hands away, they will start kicking again. this always happen to my hubby.... haha....
 
Just a way to explain the kicks and no kicks when we press down.. sometimes when we press the tummy hard, it brings the bb closer to our skin so it is easier to feel the kicks. However, if there is space for the bb to move away when we press the tummy hard, there will no longer be any movement cos bb may have moved a little away from that part of our tummy.
 
Have u all monitor whether your bb respond to who voice?

I find that my bb will respond when familar voices like hb, ILs and my mum voices. But bb most response to hb voice.

Sometimes when i met hb and hb speak to me, bb will move actively.
 
morning piyoz, my boy just turned 2.5years. terrible 2 i guess! if he don't get his way nowadays he will scream and hit at us :s very embarassing in public
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then if beat him he will cry and do his famous coughing trick, that day cough until vomit out his dinner. wah lau boui ta han you know? another incident he was playing with his lego blocks and started throwing them in the air. i scolded him and he purposely threw a few more just to test me. i shouted at him to stop and he started throwing tantrum again. then that night while i patted him to sleep, he said softly without looking at me,"Sorry mummy." i was surprised, i asked him,"Sorry for what?" then he said,"Kayden throw throw." haha wah lau hearing that cute voice say sorry is so priceless! how to stay angry right :p

anyway think most of you ladies won't experience toddler terrors like these till your baby is about 2! enjoy them while they are young and obedient ;)

thanks cactus, feifei and ZuEn! that smile can get him away with murder :p

regarding baby bouncing up and down in the womb, so far i have not experienced this but please do not worry about baby "dropping out" as this is not possible. cervix needs to be dilated and it takes contractions in order for baby to be pushed out, not so easy to drop out la haha. don't worry too much girls! learn to enjoy your pregnancy
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Hi tubbykat,
maybe he's trying to catch your attention,
walk-away,
tell him to come to you when he's done with throwing tandrum.
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At this age, it won't help to hit or scold him...
 
cactus,

Sometimes when i feel bb is quiet, but hb said he felt some slight movements when he place his hand.

So maybe bb is moving but slight movement, so we also won't know whether he is sleeping or moving slightly.

Re: Terrible 2

I have just went to hb's fren house and her son really is guai. Or maybe she displined v strictly. Her son will quietly play by himself then call his mum occasionally (for attention) but will not come to disturb.

In fact his mum is a stepmother to another elder son and the elder son used to be v naughty too, now also v guai liao.

Dunno how she teach her sons lor. Must learn from her i guess.
 
Hi Ellysia, I also find it easier to feel bb's movements when I place a hand on tummy cos it brings bb nearer to the skin, I think. I also think bbs do move when they sleep. read it somewhere. could be a reflex action but maybe lesser movement.
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Are there any mothers planning to let their babies sleep on a mattress on the floor? I'm wondering if there are any practical considerations for this. I'm keen to have my mickey on the floor till about 2 years old then move over to a junior bed - montessori styled nursery with low furniture.
 
cactus,

My colleague has her bb sleeping on mattress. But her bb sleep in playpen for few mths before moving to mattress.

One thing u need to consider is if yr bb sleep on mattress and u need to carry him up to change diaper/bf/bathe etc and quite often, u need to bend down so may be hard on your back, and also after giving birth during 1st mth i heard not so good to always bend down/squatt down.
 
Hi Ellysia, thanks lots, gal! Yeah, I heard about that physical difficulty. Also if there's another child in the room, it may be difficult cos need to ensure safety. Wondering if there's more I should consider though.
 
Hi all,

I have some questions about Detail Scan.

How many black/white photos of baby was given to u? Did they provide the same amount of photos as usual scan or even more?

Understand from hb that his colleague detail scan have alot of photos with different position of baby. He say like the size of a x-ray, pasted alot of the photos... Is it true?
 
Hi Sharon, I only asked for 1 picture.. so only got one.
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I usually ask for 1 picture for every scan. If you want more, just ask. I'm sure more will be given to you. I understand some sonographers/doctors will give 5 or 6 photos for detailed scan. others won't even offer to give unless you ask.
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Sharon,
I had around 6 to 7 photos from my detailed scan which was more than the usual but honestly, only 4 to 5 of them were clear to me what they were. :p I had no idea what 1 of the photo was actually.
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Cactus,
I just asked hubby abt LSE cos he studied in UK before and is more familiar with the unis over there. His view was that there should be no problem for your cousin to land a job in UK if he's from LSE cos it's one of the top 5 uni in Britain. Also, career package-wise, it will be more attractive working there but bearing mind that standards of living in UK is also higher. He also recommended checking out British Council website for more info (pertaining to studying there). I also found this website which lists the top 10 employers for LSE overseas grads in London. Hope that helps.
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http://www.britishcouncil.org/singapore-educationuk
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/career_and_jobs/graduate_management/article735914.ece
 
Hi Tera, thanks so much for the info. I will let my uncle know. my uncle spent 8 years in UK getting his degree and PHD so he understands what studying overseas is like. But he's quite out of touch with the climate today and he is in the R&D field now.. nothing to do with economics so is quite concerned about the choice his eldest child is making. I'm sure the info you've provided me will give me reassurance that his son knows what he is getting himself into. I told my uncle if he goes LSE, he must be prepared that his son stays there to work and may even settle down there. Just keep an open mind about things.
 
cactus,

My colleague use her bed to block the mattress so her bb will not roll out of the boundary of mattress.

Either u can use that or u can buy those "gate" to block off the boundary so bb will not roll off the mattress.
 
Sharon,

My detailed scan report from TMC has about 5-6 pictures pasted on the report.

Normal scan at gynae, gynae will gave me 3 pixs.
 
Cactus,
Hey, pls don't mention it cos dun think I help much.
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Can understand your uncle's concern for his son, as with all parents.
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My FIL also did quite abit of research on British Uni at that time when my hubby went UK to study, hehe. Even now, my FIL is still very concerned about my husband's choice of school for his PHD (but still considering, not confirmed yet).

OK, going for lunch soon, talk to u later. You have a good lunch ya?
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Hi Ellysia, yeah... there's a chance bb would roll off the mattress too. :p

Sharon, you can request for a scan report if it wasn't given to you. it will have the measurements, comments whether any abnormalities were found, weight of bb, gender, etc.

Tera, I think these days, parents tend to be more concerned about their children cos families are small. on an average, only 2 kids per family during our time.
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Sharon,

It is a detailed scan report with the results of the scan, measurements taken and pictures taken. About 2 pages.
 

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