(2008/06) June 2008

Hi luz,
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actually, every woman is at risk of having a downs syndrome baby. That risk increases with age, but increases disproportionately when the mother is 35 years old and above. There is always a risk in every test done so the doctors will weigh pros and cons of the different tests and advice the mother accordingly.

Actually, if we think about it, even as we cook our food with gas, there is a risk we could be subjecting our babies to poison, and if we eat outside, we risk that the food is not carefully cleaned or cooked...

we can't eliminate all risks around us, so just have to live with it. Tests will help us make an informed decision. But even if we are at risk of having an abnormal baby, it doesnt mean our baby will definately be abnormal. There are also abnormal babies who are mildly abnormal compared to very abnormal.
 


Eudgy,
Tks for e infor =)...

Jessyln,
we same gynae...

Jazol,
Tink so fr my frenz, all their gynaes ask them to do e oscare test in their 12th weeks leh...maybe u wan check with ur gynae?
 
Jesslyn,

I think even if you wanna die your hair some ppl say over 3mths den do. For me.. actually for my 1st gal, i done rebonding & dye within 3mths hehehe and nothing happen to ah... I think best to let ur hairstylist know not to touch ur root. For me mostly I will do before CNY whereby I m over 3mths liao bah. I think individual beliefs..
 
aiyo.. really no place take Oscar scan after 14 wks in spore ? If not, I have to beg the gynae here to do it earlier for me here. Anyway, what's the diff, Oscar, NT, detail scan ?? they are all scan why the timing makes a differences ?
 
Hi feifei & juliet,paiseh i mistake ur gynae same with mi..hehe..i noe feifei same gynae with mi..keke

Hi babycupid,thanxs for ur infor so i will stop the med since i dun have any bleeding liao..
 
Hi Fudgy,then i dun put colours in my nail loh just do srub & shape my nail can or not huh?keke if not 9mths to tahan my nails beri long ley..i oso want to go salon to have hair cut u think can or not huh?just curious...
 
Hi All,

I'm new here
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My EDD will be 3 Jun 08..

I was having bleeding for the last 2 wks and was on jabs and med. Always having the bloated feeling but I keep wanting to eat and eat
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Babycupid, u r right duphaston is a hormones medic I've taken it when i was ard 5weeks also.. jesslyn, u need not take it if bleeding has stopped.

I've also refrain from re-bonding my hair and postpone till 3rd trimester then do... As for cutting nails.. my hubby already "stand-by" to cut for me throughout my pregnancy liao... he said especially when i'm in my 3rd trimester - tummy big liao cannot see toes liao.. kekeke
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But now already i ask him to cut my fingernails... hahaha
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I said practice first!
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loomi,
i have pm you my gynae's details liao hehee

babycupid,
yup yup me was lucky then.

cactus,
thanks for your information ley, yeah lor i read liao very logical.
 
Hi, Jesslyn

scrubbing & shaping of nails defintely ok as long as without putting e colours on. Haircut is totally fine too. :0)
 
jessly,
sorry i missed out your qn earlier hehe. the experienced i shared was when i had my number 1. my age ah? i was 26 yrs old then. oscar test done at 12th week did not detected any abnormal markers, just show the risk figure. the marker was detected during my 20th week detailed scanning. i not giving birth at tmc ley, i will be at moute. np i have time sure will answer any qns.
 
mummies,
my hubby very strict - no manicure, pedicure, dye and perm hair. :-(

last time even more unreasonable , no make up .. faint
 
luz, ur hb a bit extreme leh... :p

am not a fan of mani & pedi, hair do and make up...so make no diff to me anyway..hehehe...
 
cactus, I agree w/ u leh...am quite a pessimistic person n am already started to wonder how we r gg to cope w/ the bb's arrival...

being young couple, we ain't financially there too...sounds so stressful...
 
Can normal GP do ultrascan?

Today I woke up and didn't feel all the normal pregnancy symptoms. No breast soreness, no mild cramps at the tummy area. I never had MS and nausea. Only woke up with a bad backache.

I read online that these could be symptoms for an early miscarriage and I'm panicking in office now. Tried calling my gynae's office countless times but I think the clinic only opens at 630pm. Even then, I'm not sure if I can get an appt with him cos he's really popular.

Please tell me what to do?? Is this normal???
 
luz,

u r very fortunate to hv an attentive hubby. My hubby didnt even bother what I shld eat or not do during preggy. Envy :0)
 
Hi krispy,

not all GPs can do ultrascan. There are 2 types of ultrascan. One is through tummy. One is through vagina. I believe only some hospitals and some O&G doctors have the scan from vagina. Some GPs may have the tummy scan. It's best ifyou call the GP to ask if they have the machine in their clinic. Call the bigger clinics. If you are very worried, you can walk in to KKH's 24 hour clinic. They have both types of machines there.
 
Just to add, you only need to bring your NRIC to KKH's 24 hour clinic. It is a A&E department but they also accept non-urgent cases - therefore, called a 24 hour clinic. Alternatively, you may want to check if TMC accepts cases of your sort. They also have a 24 hour clinic, I believe.
 
Thanks Cactus. Is this normal? On one hand, I'm panicking. On the other, I'm not sure if I'm over-reacting.

I also lost my appetite yesterday. Was feeling awfully hungry the past week, and suddenly, don't feel like eating at all.
 
Oh.. and to add, the doctors at KKH's 24 hour clinic are experienced. They are not junior doctors. I went there and was attended to by an associate consultant.
 
Hi cactus_79 ,u seem to read my mind too ...my english not gd so idun noe how to type here to express my feeling & nw u help me write in here..hehe thanxs..I & my hubby hve credit card bill to settle,car loan,although we r staying together with my MIL but my hubby need to gif her mun $ too.I oso got think of my baby give birth liao i need to gif my MIL how much to take care of my baby?
 
Hi krispy, I don't know if it is normal. Although I read the same info as you did.. signs of an early miscarriage. However you are not bleeding or spotting, so you may not be miscarrying at all. It's better to go to a doctor for a scan.

If you previously did a tummy scan, this time, you should be able to see a sac still. If you previously did a transvaginal scan, you shoudl still be able to see a sac transvaginal. Don't freak out if you previously only saw a sac transvaginal and can't see one now with a tummy scan cos tummy scan is not as sensitive as a transvaginal scan. Also, scans are operator dependent. If it is an inexperienced doctor, she/he may not see the sac even if it is there (esp for transvaginal).

If you are at least 6 weeks, doctor may already be able to detect heart beat.

If you knew your previous HCG level (from prevoius blood test), you may want to ask doctor to take your blood again to check present HCG level. If it is a miscarriage, HCG level will drop. If you did't previously test HCG level, then you may be asked to return the next day or in a couple of days to recheck HCG level. HCG level is differnet for every woman at the same stage of pregnancy. It is the "relative" HCG level for the same woman during the same pregnancy that can tell doctor if you are miscarrying.

In the meantime , don't worry too much k.
 
fudgy,
wow so i should look on the positive side of my hubby's KPO lah hehee i think in b/w is the best lah. if hubby bo chup, we also think he not concern. my case, hubby too chup, i think he unreasonable ley.

juilet,
yeahlor me quite chiam, u can imagine lor.

mummies,
do you all know sometimes the pregnancy will cause the skin problem later on? bcos the hormones mah.
my skin is oily type, then preggy become dry and flaky. very very very ugly. but after delivery back to normal. then bcos i dun have habit of apply moisturizer, makes the skin even worse
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krispy

i think u are abit over-reacting wor... as long as no sharp pain n no spotting is fine... not every1 have ms when pregnant de...

u cant walk in ur gynae clinic???

dun think too much stay positive... u panick , bb oso pantang...
 
luz

some will cause the mum to become ugly (as in oily skin, alot pimples) but some will cause the mummy to become more radiant... it depends on dividual....

my forehead full of tiny pimples. haiz
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cactus...we ain't really mega planners but looks like we gotta be one soon! sigh...am also hving headache abt who to take care of bb when i go back to work...

u see, my folks would like to shift to somewhere nearer to my bro who got married earlier this yr. b4 they do that, they'll sell their current hse if got a buyer b4 they find their new nest...if that's the case, my folks will move in to my plc 1st...but otherwise, they may find a nest 1st n move out of my area..then i'll hv big probs getting my mum to look after bb coz hb is the one driving n his workplace is in a diff direction...aiyo..so headache...

i also dunno wat my mum has in her mind...i hope to be sahm though but sounds difficult since financially not there...being young, i here earn there out...sianz...now must grow up liao since got to take care of young one...i hate growing up! so many things to worry!
 
cactus,
look in another way, u and hubby fortunate to get a bb soon ley. some of my frds hor trying many many years also no result yet ley. i think bcos both of you are planners, like to plan and control your life properly, dat's y now u got this worry thing bcos scared of not mentally prepared, so many housing and childcare things not settled. pls dun worry too much, u need rest and try not to overexcite. imagine me yesterday overexcite, then feel very tired. hehe need rest lor

i think the housing, childcare things will settle with the flow bah hehee got parents to help also gd ley. me nobody help, so i had to get maid ah
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Oh.. just to add.. I give my parents $200/month. My ILs have 2 other children who are working and also giving them monthly allowance...
 
Hi luz,

yeah..me trying to think positively. But I think even with parents to help, I will still have to get a maid. We'll prob ask my MIL to look after baby till 1 year old, then ask my mom to look after baby. But the same maid will follow through. Cos my MIL not educated.. we are scared her dialect accent influence the baby. My mom is a graduate and studied child pyschology and music theraphy before.. so we feel she is a better stimulator for the baby.
 
Hi mummies to be sorry to intrude wanna check with u all anyone need milk powder ... for preggy woman one cos I have lotsa sample and I dun drink I find is a waste if you all need can email me [email protected] I can send to you all cos I feel is a waste ....
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Thanks!
 
cheryl,
your tiny pimples come so fast ah. that time mine was in 2nd trimester then come ley, then is the chin and jaw area. i really gave up hope, then i see a specialist during the 3rd trimester bcos another mummy encourage me to see doctor. i tot no hope liao mah. so really is very individual case.
 
luz
ya lor i think hubby kpo better also lah. Last week I just quarrel with him cos his mum and my mum told him cannot eat mutton cos scared of 'yang dian feng' so I told him i read so many reference books also never say cannot eat mutton and we are educated people how can believe this kind of old wives tale. But he insist that if I eat and something happen only have myself to blame!

cheryl
me too I'm having outbreaks! Oh dear!!
 
Hi Cactus and Cheryl,
Trying my best not to over-react now. Was so happy to wake up without any of the usual cramps and breast soreness till I googled what it meant just now. After that, panicked till now.

My gynae is Dr Fong Yang. He runs 3 clinics and could be at one clinic or the other. He has an emergency number, but I don't think this can be classified as an emergency. I saw that he'll be around my clinic from 630pm today but definitely no slots unless I can convince the receptionist / nurse that it's urgent.

I haven't had my first scan yet. The last time I saw him was to get a second opinion over our 1.5 year infertility. Called them up earlier this week and the earliest he could see me was this coming Monday. Was so looking forward to see the scan and everything especially after reading so much about what you girls saw. Now I'm just scared.
 
Hi cactus_79 ,frankly speaking ur husband is given quite alot as for mine my husabnd gif $300 as we got other things to settle.& my sister in law oso got give my MIL allowances oso.but i just dun noe how much to add on to gif her?
 
cactus,
yup get a maid is best, if not very siong! bcos young baby and toddler more difficult to look after. normally elderly not so much energy to cope ley.
just imagine washing milk bottles and sterilizing, changing diapers, feeding. i feel that if i do it alone without help, i will be very stressful and tired.
 
luz

my breakout start at 1st tri but not so bad lah... btw, i m in my mid 2nd tri liao lah. few more weeks to 3rd tri... omg...
 
cactus! ur hb really gives a lot leh! must be high income earner la! kekeke

me give in total $600 to my folks...$300 each...give until i jelly leg & green face..haha..i dun think i'll increase $$ to my folks leh..but will pay for the bb stuff lor...my folks also noe we dun earn much, so won't ask for me...in fact, some time ago, she tell me no need to give so much, save some on our own...but hb n i not really the saving kind, so we'll jus end up spending more...might as well give my folks...haha...
 
HI Krispykreme,

I think you should just go to KKH's 24 hr clinic. Dont bother wasting time tracking your doctor's whereabouts. It should give you an answer immediately.

I'm not suggesting a miscarriage, but you are obviously anxious and it won't do your bb any good. It's best to get it settled now.
 
krispy
try dun think too much. when i knw i preg, cos i miss my period like 1 mth liao.. but gynae cant scan anything, in the end i realise i ovulate really very late tat y it only 1 mth later den i test positive.... when my gynae scan nth, i panick, cos scare ectopic... but heng, it is not

btw, hw many week u shd be now??? sometime too early might not be able to scan anything unless v scan
 
hello all
Initially I didnt want to say this as pantang but now I realised I must share my testimony to share God's grace and love for us all and let everyone know not to give up hope.

I'm currently 8weeks pregnant and have been a silent reader on this thread. I'm sorry to hear about littlemini and noscon's loss and hope this will encourage them.

The past 8 weeks have been a nightmare and I've already been hospitalised twice. On my 5th week I had red bleeding and I thought that was it, am I going to have a second m/c so soon? I was admitted into hospital and when doctor scanned me, could only see a sac and no baby yet. Praise God, the bleeding stopped and I was put on jabs, medicine and MC for next 2 weeks. I went to see gynae again at my 6 week, this time, gynae actually detected 2 sacs! But only one of them had a baby inside, the other sac was a blighted ovum. I was devastated to hear that but I was glad God at least gave me one gift of life. Everything went well for me and at my 7th week visit with gynae ( I was seeing gynae weekly, burning big hole in pocket..) he told me everything seems ok and had no jab that day. Who knew that suddenly 2 days after my visit, I had heavy bleeding again... this time it was worst than my first one. I was just standing up when I could feel the blood oozing down my legs, by the time I did a ultrasound scan, I had already used up 2 pads all full of blood, much more than what I normally will bleed on menses. On the way to TMC, me and hubby were prepared for worst and I was tearing quietly. Actually we were both very tired already as we had tried our best but still nothing seem to work. At that point, I thought of giving up, cause I was having bad appetite, MS, bloatedness and I keep bleeding. Then I remembered my ultrasound picture and how my little peanut looked and I prayed to God to keep baby safe and for God to do his will and we will accept his will. My sisters were praying that God keep baby safe in His hands despite these heavy bleeding.

God heard our prayers and kept baby heartbeat growing strong despite the heavy bleeding. Gynae said mine was a case of threatened miscarriage and warded me immediately. It was the thought that everything is in God's hands that let me sleep peacefully that night. 2 days later, gynae did another scan for me and baby had grown to 1.5cm and had a BPM of 159 despite all odds and I was discharged. Till now I am still having brown discharge, but I know I am in the safe hands of our loving father.

FYI, I had a dnc (miscarriage) done in Mar when baby heartbeat turned weak and stopped in my 7th week in my previous pregnancy. I am not a strong Christian and I kinda treated God like a vending machine, ie only come to him when I needed him. But I am hoping that through this miracle baby, my walk with him will be closer. My sister once told me about her friend who told God that if He ever gave her twins, she will come back to church and she really had twins. I was just thinking in my heart, God will you give me twins as a sign too to let me come back to you, but I will be contented with just one. And before I knew I was pregnant I had 2 separate dreams, first one that gynae scanned me having twins and the second dream that I delivered only one child. Only when gynae really scanned me with twin sacs then I realised the dreams were probably God's way to tell me he knows my heart's desire.

Womb bleeding is very dangerous especially in 1st trimester as there is the likelihood that the bleeding will just wash away the sac and baby. But despite all these heavy bleeding,baby is safe and growing strong and I know this is only possible because God is keeping baby safe in his hands

Sorry if I sound so long and preachy. I still have a long way to go and everyday I'm scared of having bleeding again but I feel more peaceful in knowing that I'm leaving everything to God's will. To all MTBs who had bleeding or not, let's not give up and encourage each other here.
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sorry for the long message, can please help me update my details pls... EDD: 4th June 08 and gynae is Dr LC Cheng (TMC), 1st child

Thanks!!

I'm also having alot of bloatedness but the worst is the "wei suan", want to vomit but keep vomitting out air and gastric juices and no appetite....
 
ndzgirl,
wow looks like your hubby also very demanding when coming to the "rules" haha then hor we will have a hard time liao, aiyah i kept telling myself nm after 9 months, i can do whatever i like heee just tahan and shout at him if i cannot take it

krispy,
dun worry so much, really some mummy won't experience the MS and symptoms but still have normal bb 1. really envy those lucky mummies
 

Thanks Cheryl!!!
How are you and baby?
Me still early only 8 weeks and had so much bleeding also very worried... but just leave everything to God ah....
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Hello Cactus
You are welcome. Me neither is a strong Christian but wanted to share this story to encourage everyone not to give up, especially those who have bleeding.
My hubby not Christian also but I'm hoping he will be swayed by God's grace through our baby
 

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