(2007/03) March 2007 MTBs

[mmqq]

AA< dun spray water onto her face maybe better. let water flow down first. let her get use to it first.
tian will not tilt her head up too, but she will tilt a bit once ina while, i let her be. she tot she can do it. i am glad that she loves water. but actually we can sense some fear when we put her head down in swimming pool,, we try not to overdo it, cause she needs time to overcome her phobia.

 

[astro_pro]

Kaexin: what you do to K is exactly the same thing Ellie does to teng.. when teng refused to cooperate.. to shower/to drink milk or whatever.. then end up.. all his soft toys get 'showered/fed'.. ha.. then teng will get angry.. and say 'no! teng teng wants!'.

this day. i am teaching him to be gentler.. coz my mum always pats him to sleep.. ellie also, i suspect :s.. then he told me to pat him! wah liew. i told him. why not u pat Nana to sleep? veryfunny.. he will pat nana and go 'sleep sleep nana.. sleep sleep nana. pat pat pat'.. ha.. so tender his expression.. !

ah. i want to go home now.. see teng.. cheer up a bit! sian..

 

[babylovespink2]

HN: Ayden is too young to be showering together with anna. Maybe wait a few more months. Will try to shower her later.

 

[astro_pro]

AA: i read about that before.. all the delaying tactics used by toddlers.. to push back sleep time.. ha. watching tv.. wanting another milk.. play longer.. read another story.. hahaha. if not careful.. we get maniuplated by them one!

QQ: i am looking forward to swimming this sat.. pls let there be NO rain..

 

[mmqq]

astro, better be no rain this saturday.
maybe we choose a place to go (any indoor pool ah?) in case it rains. so that we know where to head to mah. right?

 

[huingee]

AA,
I set a time like 9pm no more tv. Showed them it's 9 o'clock, switch off tv. Only weekend maybe can watch longer.

 

[babylovespink2]

Astro: I'm quite firm with her. I only give in to some things which make sense. LIke if she wants to nap first, then we won't wash her hair. But if she still doesn't fall asleep after a while, then she's lying.

 

[astro_pro]

mummies.. am i strange ah? i feel imbalanced.. when my colleagues whine to me that they have loads of work to do.. yet i have nothing! ... hmmm.. how come i feel like that? shouldn't i be happy that i am underworked? i tink i a bit sot sot liao..

 

[huingee]

AA,
Some maid can play with the kid, shower in a more gentle way, some dun. Hence you try it yourself lst and do it in a fun way.
Ya, Ayden too young wait till he can walk.

 

[astro_pro]

AA: ha.. with teng.. sometimes i dun employ reason.. it's MY way .. coz i see the way Miser try to reason with teng .. i give up. .

QQ: ya.. i was also thinking of indoor pool. i think only KKH have? and that is not open to public one?.. miser said.. no indoor pools in singapore one wor..

 

[babylovespink2]

HN: I am very firm. Papa lets her be. So she asks for papa when she doesn't get what she wants from mama..
I've just let her return to her own room to sleep. Now, 4 of them sleep together and hubby and I can watch our tv programmes again. Phew!

 

[huingee]

AA,
In my house both of us are firm.

They got no choice.

 

[astro_pro]

star: oh. becoz u are tagged in that photo.. so i kpo and went take a look..
so nice.. i think if my best fren is still around.. and she has a kid. i will also chio her go and take photoshoot together!

 

[babylovespink2]

Astro, QQ: Jurong - the one with the slides has indoor pool.

 

[nanabear911]

star : its a western doctor.. professional.. Wat has hope to achieve its becos my cousin's son.. who is a december 07 baby.. and he can name his grandparents, parents and aunties name in full.. ARGG!!!.. hahaha! i think a bit bo liao la.. but my mum was saying.. its Tiff's temper.. that she see if the doctor can do anything abt it a not.. haha!

AA : not more T2? hahaha.. i dunno leh.. she dun look like T2 to me.. haha..

Did i share? last day in bintan.. tiff refuse to come out of the swimming pool.. she did a head in water for me to see! i was like "WAH!" but with her eyes opened.. den after a while.. we told her to close her eyes.. becos no goggles mah..

 

[astro_pro]

huingee: ya. i told miser.. ur account of how dylan was asked to hold the spit (erm, forgot the word suddenly) and he can keep cryig till he vomits if he wants.. and that wun have a hold against both u and ur hb.. i think he quite impressed.. ha..

solid lah. like that esther and dylan.. really cannot mess between the two of u .. and both of u less tension with regards to the kids also!

 

[babylovespink2]

HN: Hubby and I are the natural good and bad cops. We don't even have to act. Haha!
I always ask hubby if we will ever get divorced, cos if so, the children will all choose him over me.

 

[astro_pro]

nana: temper? cannot be improved via massage one lah.. tempers need cultivation.. heh. i find that idea sounds dangerous.

 

[astro_pro]

AA: wah liew.. me and miser.. also naturally the good and bad cops. but this pair of cops need to be more sycronised .. coz the 'good' cop also wants to be the bad cop.. and the bad cop actually wants to be the good cop! internal dillemas!

 

[astro_pro]

AA: where in jurong? u have the exact location?

 

[babylovespink2]

Astro: It's the new jurong east or west swimming pool.. With slides and water canal feature. Quite fun.

 

[huingee]

Astro, AA,
I try not to interfer when hb discipline kids, as we already set down the rules long time. Must be firm with the kids.
But they still like to play with hb even thot he can be very fierce.
Last time Esther cred we even asked her to stand in the toliet to cry. Easier to wash up if vomit.

 

[kaexin]

astro
u lived so nearby, u can go home for lunch mah.
actually, her toys dont really all go into the shower. coz when she reach my bed, i will remove her clothes, so before that, she will put watever thing she is holding on the bed.
and she will rannnnnn all the way to bathroom, she afraid we beat her to it.

 

[thewife]

mummies
im home waiting for HDB pple to come later.

AA
do u know wats my dad's logic for having girl as #1? she can come out to work and support the family sooner than her younger bro. yes, thats me!

Nana
Tiff is very smart liao, why does she still need head massage? i dun find it necessary. last time also dun have such thing.

Yvonne
let me know if u have good lobang for ID, recommend me.

im still not over the insensitive remark by my MIL, i will pour out my unhappiness to mr tan this weekend.
i still remember my CL told me that MIL thinks i will chase her out of the house one day. its so difficult to be Hao2 ren3.

 

[babylovespink2]

HN: We never interfere with each other when the other is disciplining. Even if there's disagreement, it'll be discussed/argued later, usually without the presence of the children. But we have different tolerance levels. And hubby gives in to anna's whining much more than I do. He's the more patient person + girls tend to get away more with daddys lah..

 

[kaexin]

AA,
i also feel the same, shld i and ws get a divorce, she will choose ws over me, plus kong2 is her fav. but since the last 2 week ws worked late, i have been bringing her to bed. nowadays, come bed time, she will want me to lie down next to her. last nite, ws was the one sleeping next to her. she said, daddy go away, mummy come here.

 

[nanabear911]

astro / pink : bo bao will massage one.. i will bring tiff there together with my mum.. let her know its a waste of money! haha! hope the doctor will say.. no she is alright.. she is smart enuff.. ok.. u can make payment outside now.. hahaha!

 

[mmqq]

AA, u will be surprise that the kids might want to follow the bad cop la. to them no bad or good cop.
jurong pool ah? ok, we better check out first...
jurong east that one dun have indoor pool..
maybe its jurong west.

pink, its natural that she feels it that way because she feels insecure. u know?
i feel that it is good that mil voice out, at least u know her fear.
if she is that type who dun speak out, also jialat cause u and her wil be speculating etc etc.. very complex.
my mil is also one kind.
though she speaks a lot, and a lot of them did not went through her brain... she still dun speak out her mind afterall. she speculates. me and hb realised that we we proved ourselves right for several times. so, its her style, my mil is also feeling insecure. she can tell both sons differnt things de.. terrible.
somemore, your mil has oni one son to depend on, but my mil has 2. at least 2 chances.

 

[babylovespink2]

Pink: Re your MIL.. I think she has a big mouth and can't keep her thoughts to herself.
Re her thinking, I don't think it's a unique "fear" of her being a mother that something bad may become of her son's marriage. So her problem is not in having this thinking, but that she goes around telling people openly about this "fear" of hers.

And I feel, such thoughts one will usually share with the hubby. I, for one, will only share with my hubby abt such thoughts. But since your MIL is divorced, she doesn't have an audience for such thoughts/fears/insecurities anymore.

In short, her fault is not managing her fears appropriately.

 

[lurvecakes]

nana,
ok

hg,
ok. ya.. they took out many books of catalog for us to see... see till blur! price veri compatative... oh yes, i listen to u, will get them to do customise waredrobe...

qq,
ya... i also asked.. and understand different material material different price... i wanted granite, they say additional 200, den many other things... wah.. add up, 30k liao... lol! still finding others... but their staff is veri direct... i think is good... some ppl like hiding something in their conversation... i also worry they run away with my money... i think can pay patial first right? oops, forget to ask abt this matter...

more advise to take note can tell mi... i really sua ku in this...

 

[autum]

Astro,
hahah.. i was reading your good/bad cop internal dilemmas.. so funny, the way u put it. I am definitely the bad cop but also the good cop at times. So i have internal dilemma too?

AA,
try letting Anna hold the shower spray herself? just try.

 

[kaexin]

AA,
Pink still have FIL, the MIL and FIL are divorced. tat's why she is so insecure, she afraid pink will throw her out. but then she still got dotter mah, so dunnno why she so insecure, its not like she doesnt have her own place, and another child to fall back to. maybe like wat you said, she cant manage her fears properly.

 

[huingee]

Autum,
Haha, Esther tried to hold hte shower spray herself. In the end i'm wet cos she anyhow turn here n there.

Yvonne,
Remember, the quote must be on the actual measurement. Cos some give promoition like 4k for all the kitchen cabinet include the solid top. But sometimes the price only 10ft and the 10ft only the bottom cabinet, does not include the top cabinet. Hence ended up top up much more.

 

[babylovespink2]

Kaexin: I see.. Oops.. Amended the post.. She's highly insecure lor. Maybe due to her failed marriage.

Autum: Good idea. Will let her try to hold it later.

 

[babylovespink2]

Yvonne: Since you haven't provided them with the measurements, quotes must be given to you on a per unit basis.
What you said abt if want granite, then +$200 sounds odd..
Yes, once you sign the contract with the ID/contractor, the contract will specify the payment schedule. Usually you pay 30% first, then the rest later. In fact you pay in full only after the full installation and after your inspection.

 

[mmqq]

yes, huingee is right.
yvonne, so must open eyes big big.. and those measurement, always underestimated de. and end up will pay more, instead of LESS> u get what i mean?

AA, yes. fear management.
i feel that i need some info on this too cause my mil acting weird these days. siao siao.
she is those cannot manage her fear too, or maybe she manage it with her own ways. she has been telling my hb and other ppl the differnt things, trying to see if she can stay with us or not? but she kept telling everyone that she wanna stay with her daughter in kl. so we just say oh, ok cause u have more friends there.
then she told my hb that she is worried that we are not happy if she stays with bil.
and she told bil that she is worry that they ar enot happy if she stays with us.
alamak.. jialat.
then everyone just let her be cause we tot she wanna stay with her dotter in kl.
but relatives said she wants to stay with me woh... but i assume she want tos tay in kl,bil assume she wanna stay with me.
but i assume she will stay in kl or with bil.
seee? mess u liao. she has 3 stories to tell.

 

[kaexin]

pink,
dont brood too much over what your MIL said. No point staying angry abt it, but tell mr tan, next time, if your MIl said something unpleasant, no need relay to you.

 

[huingee]

Yvonne,
My granite top, make up of 3 big pieces they quote me 1k. That's the cheapest range of black china granite.

 

[mmqq]

i will prefer mil to say:
- I want to stay with you, any problem??
- I will stay with my 2nd son, or 1st son. but both of you still need to give me allowances.

something like that. but she did not. sigh!!
still tell ppl that tian already have nanny, she is not needed here. *of course la*
she dun want to do this and that la.. *in fron of us*.
but when we are not around, we dunno what she says..

pink, so in order to make our life better and happier, just IGNORE.

otherwise will really get internal injury.
cause ppl might be thinking i am the one who say NO to my mil and dun allow her to come to singapore. alamak.. *i think too much*

 

[babylovespink2]

QQ: Your MIL is fearful she's not welcome or worse, that no one welcomes her. So sad. Next time when I'm old, (and if hubby is not around), I also dunno what I'll do, where I'll go, who I stay with etc..

 

[kaexin]

QQ,
your MIL still "fresh" on her single life now, how abt suggest to your BIL and SIL that your mum can stay a few mths here n in KL. then no need so stress up. Jay not the eldest right ?
hey, since your BIL's wife preggy, maybe psycho your BIL that what MIL needs now, is to shower her love on the newborn

 

[lurvecakes]

qq, hg,
ok...

 

[mmqq]

AA, though we are not very welcome her, she should stay firmthat she has the right to say: I want to stay with u. any problem?
right?
we wont say NO de. but we dun want to offer nia. cause it is so stupid to offer this kind of things. which she has her choice in mind le.

 

[babylovespink2]

QQ: Why not all of you together let your MIL know that she can rotate about? That she doesn't have to decide to stay with someone for good? I think she'll like this idea. Cos it shows that she's welcomed everywhere (altho maybe she's not). And it will put her fears to ease, and that will stop her from having other related fears, and more confusion for you all.

 

[kaexin]

QQ,
think ur MIL needs a direction in life now , with your FIL passed on, she dunno where to "outlet" her energy, too much free time, luan luan siang

 

[mmqq]

kaexin,
we dun want to get involved in her thinking. we dun want to suggest, so we just ignore and let her arrange herself. apparently the other side sil is not welcoming her cause maybe scare of post natal blue or wat. so i dun mind if she wanna come here, as long as my life is not interrupted.
but jay (youngest son) works from home. better she dun kacau him otherwise he will prefer to spend $$ to rent an office somewhere else.

 

[lurvecakes]

qq,
u know hor. yesterday nick says, granny said if she stay at our house estate there she like it alot... i huh so loud and nick immediately say no la, she just commenting.. wah biang.. i almost freak out.. and i hope it don happen!

 

[astro_pro]

the other time.. i did my renovations.. the line was naturally drawn.. i just talk nia. what i want. this and that.. then the designer also like me, like to talk and talk.. then miser deals with all the concrete stuff.. then designer quite pally with me.. told me. 'wah talk to mr kong ah.. must be very analytical. organised.. and serious leh''.. i was like.. hahahha. he's like that.. u know like. i want to have like a table built in like that for example.. then miser will say.. cannot coz rigid then cannot change leh.. etc. then sit down. he will question sit down how high. how thick is the wood. how long .. aiyoh.. all those details! spare me.. gosh..

Kaexin: difficult. i dun drive then will ur bed be wet with the bathroom toys?

 

[mmqq]

AA,
we dun want to get involved cause she changes her mind too fast.
she told relative 1 - stay kl better
relative 2- singapore good, got children
relative 3- children got nanny liao.
relative 4 - newborn bb there got confinement lady.
all types of reasoning. we are tired. we dun suggest.
but she has my house key, she knows she can come here anytime.
she doesn't have bil's house key.

i also told jay, what happen if i am like her next time? i think i go look for friends bah, maybe me and my friends can form a centre for ourselves. haha!

 

[lurvecakes]

astro,
yes . is the detail i m scare of.