(2003) Calling all 2003 babies

Hi Serenade!

Thanks for the effort in compiling the age of our children.

Really admire you, how do you still find time while you're still in the midst of battling sleep with your children?

I also admire you for the memory - what, are you computer?

oh no, the playdate was with a fellow Singaporean mom. Her kids and mine are exactly same age! Our No. 1s love each other!
I haven't arranged anything with Ryan's family yet coz his parents are working and anything on weekend doesn't look good for us coz we wanna rest too and want time with our children for ourselves.

Do your children nap?
I always put them to nap between 3.30-4.30pm. And they usually nap at least 1.5 hours, while Bryan will nap more than Kris.
Then at night, I'll start dinner at around 6.30pm-7pm for them. And about 1.5 hours later, they'll be tired and they'll show signs that they want to go to bed. So on good days, they'll be in bed by 9.30pm. But sometimes a little later, e.g. we kept them up for the past two days, coz we wanna sleep in on weekend too. But half to one hour delay in bedtime.

They wake up at 11pm, very alert? Or do they wanna use the toilet? WHen Bryan wakes up, my husband will march him to the bedroom and discourages any conversation with him. He'll keep very quiet and stay in his room for about 5 min and B will drift back into sleep quickly. When Kris wakes up - usually she gets woken up by other people, e.g. her brother or by neighbours upstairs who stomp around like sumo wrestlers (btw, we used to have indian elephants living above us and below us are German bears - hehee... think you can guess the nationalities) - anyway when K wakes up, we will listen to her cries. She'll complain for about less than a minute and she'll be back in her sleep again.

Brandon is such a teachable child and has great imaginative power too. He must be alot of fun to be with, of course minus the occasional meltdowns right?
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I'm so impressed that he can do so many pages of Logico. Bryan only likes his animal set of Logico cards. And then after a while, his concentration will shift gear - needless to say, to a lower one of course!

Go get the wet-weather gear for Cheryl and be in for some splashing good times! Don't forget you need some waterproof stuffs too!
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Will look out for your new blog.

It was great to catch you online the other day. Hopefully we'll be able to find a time to chat live more often. After 11pm CET seems like a good time for us, when the kids are asleep?

Have a wonderful weeked!
 


Hi Serenade,

Thanks for compiling the table,

My boy - Shawn : Jul 03 and girl - Shanon : May 05.

Dear all,

Going to miss the x'mas outing, so sad..... hope to join you gals again next year ! : )

The 2 kids are still in Penang with the gradma and i will be away during that period.
 
Moshimoshi, I had pregnancy-related eczema with baby No. 2 and was told to switch to Dove for shower. I also used JK's eczema cream then since I figured that what's good for baby must be safe for maternity.
 
Wow, didn't realise there are so many of us in this forum already
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Serenade, pls add my details to your chart:
Jay Kai (JK) Boy - Oct 2003
Jay Cin (JC) Girl - Dec 2005

May I suggest that you also add a new column on the mommies' status eg SAHM, WFHM or WM (Working Mum)? I'm SAHM. Thanks.
 
Welcome, Sunflower, to this forum for mums of 2003 babies, to the club of SAHM as well as to the woes of fighting siblings. I must thank those of you who recommended Calliou. On seeing Serenade's comments, I promptly borrowed one abt Big Brother from the library and played it for JK. For that one morning, he was so sweet to his baby sister and even fed her bread during breakfast while watching the show
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On Stay-at-home fathers, actually I'm a little shy to admit this after reading all your comments but I seriously think my husband can do it (if cooking is not included). He is great with housework (he used to do housework for his mum before marriage) and he has a way to make the kids do things that I can't without having to yell or hit. But he has an ego problem - he thinks he's a rare breed so please don't ever complain abt your husbands when you see him. Actually I really think he's just one of the many new-age husband/father. I see so many daddies in my carpark coping very well with a baby or even 2 young children every morning without their wives (I always wonder where they are). I'm not sure if this is only a phenomenon in my estate.
 
On sleeping problems, who else here with 2 kids have problems? One reason why I hardly have time for myself is because JK takes very long to fall into sleep and won't even try without me lying down beside him and pat till he's tired while JC needs me to stroll her or breastfeed her to sleep. I obviously can't handle both with their different requirements at the same time.

Also like to ask which of the kids here are already off diapers overnight and how to do it. JK pees a lot and still wets his mattress even during naps sometimes. His diaper is always heavy by the morning so I don't think he's ready and I dare not wake him up in the middle of the night to pee either.
 
tks mommies for the welcome
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<font color="0000ff">Meilan</font> - no need to feel shy abt having a SNAG for hubby. In fact, I tnk u shd rejoice :p Haha, where do you stay huh? Mayb we shd move cloder to your estate and see if some of it rubs off my hubby. keke

<font color="0000ff">On napping n sleeping:</font>
Cedric was a "slp-a-lot-in-d-day-but-keep-waking-up-at-nite" kind of bb. All d way till he is 2, he packs in solid 2-3hr stretch naps. But at night was a diff story. He will wake up on the dot 2hrly for BM. *faint* But I had no probs getting my housewk done, coz he zzz so well in the day.

He also will not slp without me singing to him(when he was younger) or holding his hands(now). I am tryin to break this habit, but it seems to cause him stress n grief, so much so that he will start babbling in his slp, and have more frequent bouts of night terror/ nightmares. Needless to say, I gave up forcing him.

Denzyl(now 11mth old) is a completely diff pattern. He takes "power-naps" in the day, but slp much beta at night. In the day, since 5mth old, he will nap no more than 30-45min, no more than 4 times/day. Now, he has cut down to 2 naps a day, half an hr each time. *headache* I hardly have time to comb my hair coz he needs so much attention. He is tooooo active! Coupled with Cedric - really a handful.

Denzyl also needs to nurse to zzz... used to put them to bed at diff timings, but I realised I had almost no time to do my stuff n unwind etc, so now I will bring them to the rm at the same time, nurse Denzyl while I tell Cedric bedtime stories(plus hold hands with him). The whole routine usu takes abt 30min++.

<font color="0000ff">On off-diaper training:</font>
Cedric has the ability to stay dry for naps since approx 2mth ago. It happened by chance. I was sick and forgot to put on diaper for him for his nap.When he woke up 1.5hr later, he was still dry, and he asked to go loo to pee pee. 4 days ago, I tried to go diaper-les overnight. 1st 3days was ok, last night he had an 'accident'. Gotta to see how things go.

<font color="0000ff">Kristin's mom</font> - aha! the joys if having a girl... a princess who can hold her own at the playground. Well done! I can see she also knows how to put things to her advantage by playing victim. keke.

my niece simply loves accessories. She always like to go through mine when she comes over (she is going 5). Hairbands, clips, clip on earrings... but fret not, I guss most kids are like that, they cannot stomach anything 'foreign' on their heads. Things will change as they grow older, unless you have a certified tom-boy on hand :p

Btw, any mommies also co-slping with kids?
 
Regarding sleep, both Benny n Bryan have a very bad habit. They suck they're thumb to sleep cause they used to suck on pacifier during baby time. When I declare bedtime, they'll both slam onto their pillow and suck their thumb. Then my room will be filled with 'joot joot' sound. Sometimes, Benny will ask me to scratch his back. I used to do that everynight before Bryan's arrival but now I only do that occasionally.

I used to tuck Benny between my hubby and me during my working period. As I realise he can sleep better with me. I don't have to get up every few hours to pat him. And because of that, he is very attached to my bed, even now whenever he's awake at night, he'll start throwing his pillow n bolster up my bed and squeeze between us.

For Bryan, besides sucking of thumb, he has another habit. He has a soft toy dog with a ribbon tied to it's neck. He will either rub the ribbon with his fingers or squeeze it into his ears till he's fast asleep. When we're away for holiday, I will have to bring along a few bibs, the strings attached will be his replacement for the ribbon.
 
Hi Meilan!

Yeah, isn't Caillou the best babysitter? Bryan adores this little hero. Sometimes he pretends his Caillou and then he'll remember to be nice to meimei.

Wow... your husband is indeed a rare breed.
Although my husband can do housework, he doesn't do it unless absolutely necessary. Maybe I'm the one who has problem with that coz I can't stand a messy house.
 
Hi Jojo!!!

Your sons must sound pretty cute.

Wow! They go to their bed without any protest?!!
You are good at sleep-training them.
I don't thumb sucking habit would worry me much if the kids just do that to fall asleep and i don't even have to be in the room at all.
 
Mommies,

does anyone breastfeed more than 6 months here and the baby sleeps through soundly by 3 months?

I always suspect that breastfeeding causes poor sleeping habit/ creates a bad sleep association. Yeah, I know we've been told again and again by books but what to do? Would you rather risk waking up the baby when it's already 3am?

One of the challenges these days SAHMs deal with is sleep deprivation. Our babies wake up so often in the night and we still have to find time/energy to juggle with our daily chores. We were mostly formula fed babies - no wonder, my mom always says she doesn't remember it being so tough with us. I always think formula fed babies can fall into a routine nicely, even bowel movement can be trained young... but mommies with formula fed babies since day 1, you can correct me if I'm wrong. This is something I'd never know since I breastfed both of my children and thus the dark rings round my eyes... sigh!
 
Hi Meilan!

HAve you tried reading "The Kissing Hand" by Audrey Penn to JK before?

Nowadays I give Bryan a kissing hand before I excuse myself after his bedtime story and by the time I'm back to check on him, he's already soundly asleep.
 
Meilan...
oops!

Forgot to mention another book by Audrey Penn. A sequel to "The Kissing Hand".
Try "A Pocket Full of Kisses" by the same author on sibling rivalry.
 
On diaperless nights:

Bryan has been diaperless at night on and off since 2.5 years. I do realise that when he does wet his bed, then it will be the same for the next few nights. Then it will be back to the diaper again. For over 1.5 weeks now, he's not wet his diaper. Maybe it's time to go diaperless again. But I do treasure my sleep at least till I go back to SG when I can drop him at grandparents' for a day to rest... Besides, he makes a big din when he wets his bed and meimei will be up too. I think he doesn't like to wet his bed too. He feels embarassed about it and we usually go hush hush about it and tell him that can happen sometimes and we know he has tried to keep himself dry. Maybe he can do better another day.
 
Thx Kristin,

they are cute but provided they don't fight and cry.

Forgot to mention, I have to be in the room during bedtime. Just lie down on bed and wait for them to fall asleep. Otherwise, they'll start to jump on my bed and play. 'when the cat is not around, the rats will jump about' best description for me and my sons.

Usually, when they make mistake for the first time, I'll talk to them nicely telling them what is right and what is wrong. Same mistake again, I'll be angry and warn them not to repeat their mistake. If they repeat for 3rd time, I flashes my cane as last warning. haha.. sounds like a monster mum..

U mean Bryan can sleep without wetting bed? I can't seems to wake Benny up for pee pee. therefore he's still on diapers at night.
 
Hi Kristins_mom!

Actually I post online only when the kids are sleeping. If they are awake, I wouldn't even be able to get past the first few lines.

Yeah, don't u know I'm a computer by now? Just a malfunctioning one, with a huge memory problem...

Besides your hubby, do u mean TDB has other Singaporeans in Germany office too? If my memory serves me well, STB sends only one or two singaporean officers to their regional offices. The rest of the staff are locals.

Do my kids nap? Rather, I make sure they do. But Brandon is increasingly forgoing his nap nowadays. Hey, your kids are wonderful! Even with the naps, they still get sleepy so early. Not for mine. Cheryl's still manageable. She usually hits the pillow latest around 11pm. As for Brandon, he just fell asleep at a quarter to 1am. And, he didn't even nap in the afternoon.

Oh yes, I do really mean waking up "alert" when they sleep early. They will be rolling all over the place, requesting for more reading, watch TV etc, as if it's morning. So far, Brandon's record is staying awake till 3am (when he slept early).

I really envy you that your kids can fall back to sleep so easily. How on earth do you manage it?

Haha, I like your descriptions about your neighbours. So what about singaporean and french? What terms would you use to describe them? :p

Aston is the one with good attention span. AMum mentioned that he can complete abt 2 books in one session! Brandon, like Bryan, shifts to the lowest gear after a while. Actually, more like a standstill...

Haiz, to sum up his imaginative power, imaginative power = unending mess. Tired, tired... I would think most kids are going through the imaginary phase at this age, right? Anyway, I can be his mommy kangaroo one minute and the next he's a baby bird... Btw, I'm glad his imaginary animal friends no longer make their appearances. For a while, I have to watch out for the "fox's hole" when going around with the chores...
 
Hi kristins_mom,

Both my kids on FM since Day 1. Not sure abt the toilet training part, but they do wake up for night feeds. In fact, for the first few months, they needed two feedings in the night - 1am and 4am. Brandon was still waking up for his 3am night feed at 9 mths old. Fortunately for me, my hubby's the one who did the feedings...
 
Hi Meilan,

Maybe we should introduce our husbands to each other? Perhaps they can form a bonding since they belong to the same species? Lena, you too? :p

As for diapers, Brandon has been diaperless since this July. Initially, there was some wetting. Once, we even reverted back to diapers (for abt a wk). But no major problem, I think, since september. Usually, we'll make sure he pees after his last bottle of milk for the day. For a while, he will sleep through the night without having to go toilet. But recently, he will wake up crying to go toilet in the middle of the night.
 
Hi Meilan,

The only sleep problem I have is the kids need me beside them when they nap/sleep at night. At the moment, they are both my left and right sleepmates. May I add that my kids seem to have antennae? They can sense my absence in their sleep and wake up crying for me. That's when I have to return to bed and assure them everything's alrite... Then, when they fall asleep again, I'll tiptoe out to continue with my work.

Btw, I have placed an order for "The Kite Runner". Hopefully I'll receive it soon...

Hi Sunflower,

I'm still co-sleeping with my kids. Do you intend to put them in separate rooms soon?
 
hi moshimoshi,

i was lucky, did not travel via CTE. Went to pick up HB &amp; son at kallang via little india. tok abt cars, i used to work in motor firm and has some contacts for sales if u need. HB also car freak.

talk abt diaperless nite, zavier has been off diaper before he turns 3 in Oct. wets himself for first few nites trial. HB insisted diaper for zavier. but i resisted. Fist of all, his size cant fit any XL diaper, 2nd pull-up pants quite ex. 3rd, its time to train him up. i told HB its time to move forward for zavier. He is off diaper for few months with some wetting too. He will wake us up and say he is wet. Needs to change. and also comforting us and says "its ok". And sometimes, he will go to toilet himself..

I'm the luckier sort. HB did the feedings after confinemet nanny left. Zavier is on FM after 2nd month. I kept telling him tt we need to work daytime. He does not need mid morning feeds after his 3rd mth. occassionaly he will cry for it or gets cranky.

And on pacifier, zavier was off when he turned 2. I got him to throw it away himself. And when he asked for it, i reminded him tt he threw it away, and brought him to the sterilizer. He cant find so many times, till he gave up. Some nites, he get cranky, a few pats and he is off to sleep again.

lately, i got him to go into colouring books to brush up his motor skills. Holds them correctly after a few tries. But his concentration span is very short and starts to find excuses. needs to go toilet, wants to watch TV. I hv over-reacted and did some high pitch "lecture". he does the coloring better when HB is not ard.

Has anyone brought 3yrs old toddlers to movies? I am thinking to bring zavier for "happy feet". My first attempt with him was "Garfield 2" and was ok throughout the movie.
 
To make things simple, shall we just keep the last column to FTWM &amp; SAHM. WAHM would be classified as SAHM. Any problem with that?

Another thing, this thread is moving too fast and I doubt I can keep up with it. Can mommies do me a favour - please PM me the info rather than post it here?

<table border=1><tr><td> </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD>Name / Gender</TD><TD>Month of Birth</TD><TD>Name / Gender</TD><TD>Month of Birth </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Ky</TD><TD>Ben</TD><TD>Feb 03</TD><TD>Keith</TD><TD>Jan 06 </TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>AMum</TD><TD>Aston</TD><TD>April 03</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>FTWM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Joanne</TD><TD>Benny</TD><TD>April 03</TD><TD>Bryan</TD><TD>Jan 05</TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Sarah</TD><TD>Hannah</TD><TD>May 03</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Serenade</TD><TD>Brandon</TD><TD>May 03</TD><TD>Cheryl</TD><TD>Jun 05 </TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>MH</TD><TD>Wei Shuen</TD><TD>Jun 03</TD><TD>Li Shuen</TD><TD>Jan 06 </TD><TD>FTWM </TD></TR><TR><TD>BlurPooh</TD><TD>Shawn </TD><TD>Jul 03</TD><TD>Shanon</TD><TD>May 05</TD><TD>FTWM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Kristins_mom</TD><TD>Bryan</TD><TD>Aug 03</TD><TD>Kristin</TD><TD>Aug 05 </TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Moshimoshi</TD><TD>Melody</TD><TD>Sep 03</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>WorryMum</TD><TD>Benjamin</TD><TD>Sep 03</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>FTWM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Meilan</TD><TD>Jay Kai</TD><TD>Oct 03</TD><TD>Jay Cin</TD><TD>Dec 05</TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Pooh</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>Oct 03</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>May 06</TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Emily</TD><TD>B </TD><TD>Aug 03</TD><TD>B </TD><TD>Mar 05 </TD><TD>FTWM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Irene</TD><TD> </TD><TD>April 03</TD><TD>Bryan</TD><TD>May 05 </TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Sunflower</TD><TD>Cedric</TD><TD></TD><TD>Denzyl</TD><TD> </TD><TD>SAHM </TD></TR><TR><TD>Aileen</TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD></td></tr></table>
 
Hi aileen,

Remembered vaguely that you mentioned you bought size 8 clothes for Zavier. Same here. During the last sale, we bought some size 10 too. But, in the midst of my shopping, I was wondering what will happen if Brandon doesn't like the designs I have chosen for him...
 
Yeah... this thread is moving real fast.. must come in very often now...

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Sunflower. Yeah ur 2 sons name are unique.

Diaperless
Benjamin still on diaper (pull up) at night only. Sorry no time to try off diaper...cos afraid mattress get wet and no time to put under the Sun. *Guilty* However, many days wake up in the morning, diaper is still DRY.

Sleep Alone/Nap
Serenade, Brandon is staying up till that late without nap? wow.. he very strong ah..

Yes, Benjamin still nap from 2pm to 4.30pm.. He can nap for longest 4 hrs if he feel real tired. If he dont take nap, he will fast asleep around 7.30pm.

At night, Benjamin can sleep alone without any accompany. However, he still prefer to have me in the room to read, sing or chat with him, till he said.. mummy i want to sleep already.

Pacifier
Yeah! Benjamin throw away his pacifier when he turn 18mths.

Joanne, yes, am at Little Guilin, St 52. Think we stay very near..

Kristin's Mom, Benjamin ever admitted for day surgery on Eye-lid chalazion. The doctor covered his eyes with bandage after the surgery, when he woke up, he kept pulling it off.. and its off.. really *peifu* Bryan.. Is real heartpain when seeing our little one suffered. Haiz..

Lena, PM u me email liao.. TIA.
 
Hi aileen,
I have an idea. I am also thinking of watching happy feet with aston and also my hubby on 26Dec.
His CC is closed on that day so am bringing him out to catch a morning show.
Just wonder if we can go together if u happen on leave..?
 
Kristin's mom

"I always suspect that breastfeeding causes poor sleeping habit/ creates a bad sleep association."
--->>> YES!! I totally concur!! I'm actually in a daze these few days cos of Keith. Oh my goodness. I'm co-sleeping with him and he's getting to be a terror (unlike Ben). I co-slept with Ben till he's 14 months and did the cold-turkey. Prior to that, Ben would keep waking up a few times to look for comfort. I have no idea how many times but after he's done, he'll leave me alone. When I converted him, he slept throughout the night, so YES, he does sleep better. With Keith, he doesn't leave me alone. He'll drink, rollover, roll back for more, rollover, roll around, crawl around. And we are sleeping on a raised King size bed, so I'm pretty wary where he might ended up. Yes, he'll be opening his eyes wide and crawling around which is what he did at 1am last night... I'm thinking of doing the cold turkey already, coz he doesn't sleep well during the day too and so he hasn't been putting on much weight. I do think that sleeping alot ==> putting on good weight.

off-diaper training for the night :
Ben's still on XL *urghhhhh* ... we asked him before to go diaperless and you know what he says "cannot. if I pass urine and wet the bed at night. how?" ... so now we are telling him that when he's 4 yrs old, we'll take off the diaper, and he's agreed. I don't know if that'll happen.

Meilan, besides Serenade and Lena, think ur should hubby should have a sharing session with mine ... mine would gladly do the housework and cook. In fact, he cooks when we have no maid and now plans the meals and teaches the maid to cook. In fact, he's more kancheong about what we feed to the boys and when they fall sick. I'm more of the "never mind, let him run in the sweaty top for a while or get the wind to blow in his sleeveless top for a min" sort. But I'm the sort that would do activity with the kids (hence the buying) whereas he'll just bring them to the playground or kick balls around (so no buying from him).

On siblings fighting, my guess is Ben would lose out to Keith when they fight.... the 11-month old will scream when we take something that he's holding out of his hands and Ben would not.

and welcome to all new mommies ... am surprised to see the thread moving terribly fast, even on weekends!

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Pant pant, what's happening here har? I must read archive now!

Will be back later!

Meanwhile, read today's LIFE about gender inequality by MALE writer.
 
You mommies are really fast and early...And we have more mommies. Welcome to all!

Kristin's_mom,
Regarding breastfeeding and sleeping habits. My nieces are total breastfed and apparently no sleeping problems. As for Hannah, she was also total breastfed till she turns 2+. Day and night feed She came down with HFMD and so rejected BM, else I would have continued. Since day 1, she needed to be rocked to sleep. These days, just bedtime stories and a little pat.

And yes, how did you get B&amp;K to bed early when they have late nap? Hannah naps between 1-2pm for about 1.5hrs. Similarly, I too get her dinner from 6.30-7pm, bath at 8 followed by milk (which indicates bedtime). She will knock out at 9.30 if she's misses her nap or very tired. Normal days, by 10pm.
 
Diaperless at night:
Hannah goes diaperless at home and during her afternoon nap. She is still using the traditional red potty. At least she knows when she wants to pee and poo. Guess that's better than nothing. Tried once not putting nappy at night, and she cried out when she wets the bed. And yes, she is wearing trainers in school. Just can't get her to use the normal potty.

Aileen, Amum,
Yes, I'm going to bring Hannah to watch 'Happy Feet' and 'Open Season'. Oops, weekdays though. Weekends too crowded esp school holidays now. Crowd freaks me out...We've been to the cinemas twice. She was ok, could be the popcorns. She says 'Popcorns are good, taste so good...'

Serenade,
Talk abt imaginery friends, it's not as 'scary' as before. We used to play pretend so I'm wondering could that be the reason why she is so imaginative. Best thing, she knows it's not real. Told me "Mommy, it's not real, just pretend. Don't you know?"

She likes to call me "Princess of the world" whenever she has any special requests. Hmm...girls just have a soft way with their parents, isn't it? But recently, she's been calling me "Princess of the whale". Is that a sign? Gosh, mommy is big but not that big!

Hey, is the book 'Kite Runner' war related in Afghanistan or somewhere in the Middle East? Let me know if it's interesting.
 
Welcome Sunflower &amp; Joanne! As u can see, we are moving VERY fast, miss 1 day, miss a week's!

Hi Sarah n Meilan
Now i know who to confide in for eczema. About 2 weeks back, it's so bad that i woke up in the mid of nite to scratch n scratch n as expected, the infammation got worse and i was real cranky in the day when i had to wet my hands to do the dishes, cooking etc. A bad bout for me would see extremely itchy blisters spreading like wild fire on my palms. I use hydrocortisone (steriods) for relief, but it;s no good for the long run (causes skin to thin). I read that we should moisturise more often and avoid irritants like detergent, how to when i am a SAHM??? But i try to use a long brush when i do the dishes, i don't hand-wash clothes n as much as possible, make my hub do whatever i don't want to do. I do not suffer from eczema during pregnancy but AFTER i stay home, SOB SOB...
Meilan, what cream do u use?

Mommies
The MALE writer i mentioned earlier feels that <font color="0000ff">if men are expected to:
-change a light bulb
-put together an ikea cabinet
-kill cockroaches n lizards ard the hse
THEN
A woman who doesn't cook isn;t a good wife!</font>

PROTEST, PROTEST!!!!
I am proud that i can't cook so i have reason not to and to eat more delicious food cooked by others. Haha.

What say u?
 
There was a debate on STOMP abt parents mollycoddling kids (doing too many things for them and protecting them too much from unpleasant experiences). Are u mollycoddling? I am learning not to.
 
Seems like we have more mommies in the West. Any SAHMs like to meet for coffe on weekdays?

Moshi - AMK
Aileen - Hougang
Sarah - Changi
Amum - Punggol
Meilan - SK
BlurPooh - JooSeng
Ky - CCK
WorryMum - Bukit Gombak
Joanne - Bukit Gombak
Serenade - Hillview/France
Kristin's_mom - Tiong Bahru/Germany

MH, Emily, Sunflower,Irene &amp; Pooh,
So, which part of the island you belong?
 
hi sereande, hv pm u.

hi moshimoshi,

I hv eczema and totally understand the frustration. when i was young, its was all over, teenage, it was on my palms. sweaty, sticky, itchy and yuks all the peelings, skin flakes. it did not get better till adult. its best to see a demalogist. And also, u need to use cetaphil for body wash or handwash. for cleaning of utensils, i noted mama lemon is the most mild to use on eczema sufferers.

hi amum,
my HB will not take leave on wkdays to see movies. I m saving my leaves for next yr. so its got to be weekends or weekdays nite for us.
 
Hi JOanne!

Don't you sleep at all???

It seems that I post early, but it's really just the time difference... but you... hardly four hours of sleep... you are a good model mom!!!

When people tell me they want kids, I will ask them if they're willing to forgo their sleep... something I'm still grappling with...
 
Hi Amum!

How do you get Aston to do some much Logico?

If my husband knew how little Bryan plays with it, he'd be saying... see, waste of money again!
 
Hi Serenade!

My husband is with EDB. The office here happens to have two centre directors and one regional one. So this is the most staffed centre with people from Singapore, whereas you are right about STB and IE Singapore. But since Frankfurt is very strategic in Central Europe, so you have SQ people here too. And the present SQ GM has kids just the same age as mine, as in no.1 and no.2 exact same age! WHat coincidence and the children/parents enjoy each other's company alike.
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Pity they live in the suburb while we are in the city. So the kids don't get to play with each other every day.

Regarding bedtime, I'm not doing as well as the people here do... some British moms even tell me they put their children to bed as early as 6.30pm and these kids sleep all the way till 7am in the morning... What they do sounds pretty much like magic to me. Though the children don't nap in the afternoon, it's ok when I get off from 6.30pm onwards too.

What time do you serve dinner?
I find that this is crucial esp when you want your kids in bed early. Anything later than 7pm, you can expect them to be up and bouncing past 10pm.

O regarding the occasional night waking, it's the daddy who does it. And he does it well, so I'm leaving him to do what he's good at. What secret? Just say yes to any request and try to pipe down as much as possible. Somehow daddy can be very calm about everything...

Yeah... in the past I did have Bryan waking up and wanting to watch TV, that's so frustrating. But we would insist no... of course he'd wail. Those were the terrible times. I think it's a phase. Soon Brandon will understand sleep is important. I think school helps alot too. Once Bryan started preschool, he's more knocked out in the evening.

Anyway, enjoy your remaining stress-free months in France. When you're back in SG, you'd be rushed into the competitive stress. But I do know you'll constantly remind yourself not to give in to that.
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Ok... Kristin wants to have a go at the computer now... gtg!

Catch you again!
 
Phew! Kristin is in the meanwhile distracted...

Moshimoshi!

What... in what age is this man living in????!!!!

actually, i've changed lots of light bulbs, put together ikea cabinets on my own before, and also killed numerous spiders/cockroaches, lizards, bugs, caught moths... whatever that's not supposed to get my children first.

also, my husband does like to bake, although he's not so good with the cooking. Lucky thing he can still do the cooking, otherwise he'd not survive his student years in Germany. We don't have catered hostels here unlike the American and British ones.

Also when we move into any apartment here, it's a complete empty shell... so we got down on our hands and knees to do all the dirty work and also rolled out the tools and be the handyman!

Looks like this man is so not gonna survive out here if he only expects the woman to be the one doing all the cooking.
 
Kristin's mom, of course I sleep but only managed to catch 3 hrs of sleep last night. Had to finish undone housework and reply to some mails. Wanted to do some online business on bike accessories therefore have to do some research on products I'm selling as I have zero knowledge and have to start from scrap. Have to work double hard.

Now tt u mention, can really feel sleeping devil pounding on me.. zzz

Goodnight. tok to u moms tomorrow.
 
Hi Serenade!

You're so right about children - they have a motion detector right??? As soon as they sense you are gone, they'll start crying for you... haha!!!

My husband and i don't like to co-sleep with the kids, at least for now, it's just Bryan coming into our room coz Kristin is confined to her cot. And when he squeezes in between, i won't care much and continue to sleep until my husband carries him over to his room. 3 cheers for him coz he's the one who really detests sharing the bed with the kids. Also, both my children like to kick off our duvet and you know how cold it can get at night. We don't sleep with the radiator on. I must say Daddy is the diligent one at putting Bryan back in his bed.

As you can see now... I have some break... the kids are napping. This is a terribly dreary day - it's a lot warmer than yesterday, wet and very mild. Weather is just right for breeding more viruses! No wonder the cleaning lady called to report sick. But I'm secretly happy and extremely thankful coz the kids have less distraction and are thus napping now.

Maybe I'll try SAHM when I'm back too if I haven't given up hope on the fun things I can do with the kids. The option is open, or I can always do half load teaching or 3/4 load... whatever that's best to help us fit back into life in SG. I think it's gonna terribly hard for me to start working again. After 3 years of break, the inertia will be too great for me to want to go back to working life. And FTWM is very tough, esp without a maid. I'm sure other FTWMs will concur too. I'm not comfortable having a live-in maid again now that I'm comfortable with a life without one. Part-time cleaning lady will be a better option. Coz other than having to deal with my children's fretfulness, I don't want to have to deal with the mood swings of another woman. It can be stressful sometimes.
 
Mums, I think we all need to watch out not to get addicted to the forum. Within the span of only 1 day, the thread simply exploded!

Anyway, thanks for sharing your experiences abt sleeping and going diaperless. Apart for the rare few wonder kids/angels here, looks like "jia1 jia1 you3 ben3 nan2 nian1 de4 jing1". I actually feel better after reading that I'm not the only one "suffering". Just last night, JC suckled for 2 hours and still dare to cry when I tried to detach her, I got so exhausted I simply dumped her. So hubby tried again to pat her and finally succeeded and then JK woke up to march me to his room!!!

As for diaperless, looks like it will happen when the time comes.

Worry Mum, I can understand why you didn't bother cos when I was still working, I didn't want to try training things for fear of insufficient sleep, being late for work etc. But I STRONGLY encourage you to start trying since waking up dry is a sign that the kid is ready, I was told.
 
Thanks, kristin's mom for more book recommendations. I cannot keep up even with your earlier ones so I have written them down for ref later. By the way, how did you know get to know all these books? I would have thought you were a children librarian!
 
Moshimoshi, I used Betamethasone recommended by the Dr when I was pregnant or JK's cream which he said would be too mild. I well remember the horror of waking up one day with spots all over my palms. The thought of it alone brings the itch back again, but with care, it did subside.
 
Hi Meilan!

We are quite lucky here that Bryan's preschool has a very good library.
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And also moms here just love to read to their children and they constantly share smashing titles... so watch this space for more book recommendations
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Serenade, Lena and ky, I will definitely ask my husband to say hello to yours so that he knows that he's not as rare a gem as he would like to think heehee...

Moreover, the rest of the husbands all seem to have some redeeming features in one way or another.
 
Hi Mommies!

Know anyone who's willing to rent out a furnished apartment (3 bedrooms) for a month (dec13-jan15)? Preferrably near a train station. PM me please! Thanks!

The thought of having to squeeze all four of us into one room in our present flat - PILs have taken over most part of our flat now - is not at all comforting! Besides, I'm so afraid that my children won't want to sleep in their rooms anymore when we're back in Jan... that will be nightmare for me!
 
Hi kristin's mom. Nice to run into you live here but I promised my husband to log off soon. He cannot believe our forum is so messy with no folders on specific topics unlike his car and photography forums. He says no wonder we all spend so much time on this forum. I guess it reflects the dif nature of men and women. They just want straight solutions while we just chat from earth to heaven. Pity any newbies who join our thread, they must be feeling so overwhelmed.

By the way, you are a real hero, catching lizards, cockroaches etc! I just keep praying and praying that I don't have to be forced to touch these creatures when alone with the kids.
 


My last posting for today - mums going for movies with kids, check out the kids for free promotion at Cineleisure. It's only on Tue for the first movie. We watched Cars with JK, his first movie though he was on my lap throughout so the free seat didn't really mean much. Would like to bring him to watch Happy Feet, so pls pm me if anyone of you going to take up this offer on a Tue so that we can tag along.
 

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