whentwobecomesone
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Hi Eeyore, congrats! Happy 9 months!
Did you do anything different this month compared to other BFN cycles? I had mild period like cramps last cycle too, way before AF was due, but in e end AF came
Trying to conceive 2020
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Hi Eeyore, congrats! Happy 9 months!
Did you do anything different this month compared to other BFN cycles? I had mild period like cramps last cycle too, way before AF was due, but in e end AF came
whentwobecomesone
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thank you Chouchou! You jiayou too! How long have been trying?
whentwobecomesone
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Hi Reina, my TCM advise not to BD after ovulation. Just to be sure to catch late ovulation, you can BD one more time after ovulation but to stop after that until TWW is over. I also read some TCM sites saying that sometimes the contractions from BD may interfere with implantation or dislodge the implanted embryo. Western medical sites say otherwise though
Pixiestars
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Congrats Eeyore! Have a smooth pregnancy ahead!
Pixiestars
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Nope... my cycle is like yours quite long. ZZZZ.... I'm only on CD10.
Hi All, i've just started trying to conceive and about 1mth+ back i started on a pre-conception vitamins. my period has been quite regular over the past 3 months all same cycle days. However its now late 39 days from first day of last period. i have no pregnancy symptoms at all or period symptoms except for cramps which i have been having on and off for about 2 weeks now. negative pregnancy test on 36 days from first day of last period. i'm just wondering if its the pre-conception vitamin that is messing my cycle up. have anyone encountered the same issue?
Charlene05
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Hello! I faced the same too
but at least you have no symptoms. I have occasional cramps, nausea, stomach bloated. But I stopped taking all kinds vitamins for now. I feel it’s really doing harm to my stomach/body. Also my cycle is messed up too. Just relying on bak Foong pill to regulate my menses for now.oh dear, that's really a step back from ttcHello! I faced the same too
i have occasional cramps too, but i actually didn't think its the vitamins because i've started taking mid May and my period still came that month. but i googled and apparently takes about 3-6 weeks for supplements to be effective. May i know how long after you start taking your cycle became irregular? was it immediate? and also after you stop the vitamins how long did it take for your period to become regular again?Charlene05
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We have been ttc for a year and a month already. I started taking vitamins for a year and a half. Before we started to ttc, I just feel nausea and have some stomach issues. Then when we started ttc, I feel like somehow it got worse and the worst was when I took blackmores vitamins I feel. I changed from gnc to Blackmore btw. So from then I just stopped. It wasn’t so bad taking gnc vitamins because my cycle was between 35-37 days most of the time but when I changed to blackmores, the cycle became crazy like ranges from 30 to 45 days each time. Sometimes I think back I find it really weird. I used to have regular period before wedding but after wedding my cycle become longer it seems and the after effect from taking vitamins (I assumed) had my cycle became so messed up. I wonder it’s the stress too that’s playing a part.oh dear, that's really a step back from ttc
This is actually the first month I stopped but I’m on CD 34 today. Have backaches past 2 days and a little cramp ytd so likely period would be coming soon
haha
whentwobecomesone
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I’m trying SMEP, so gonna start trying this week already, though probably only ovulating next week. Jia you! Will keep you updated!
whentwobecomesone
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Hi Chouchou, if you don’t mind me asking, did you start IUI after 1 year of trying? I’m on cycle 10 this month, nearing 1 year soon....
Hi.
I did not experience this implantation bleeding.
it's so weird though, i thought it's supplements suppose to help us. i also heard many positive stories on the blackmores actually, why are these not working on us and instead working against us!We have been ttc for a year and a month already. I started taking vitamins for a year and a half. Before we started to ttc, I just feel nausea and have some stomach issues. Then when we started ttc, I feel like somehow it got worse and the worst was when I took blackmores vitamins I feel. I changed from gnc to Blackmore btw. So from then I just stopped. It wasn’t so bad taking gnc vitamins because my cycle was between 35-37 days most of the time but when I changed to blackmores, the cycle became crazy like ranges from 30 to 45 days each time. Sometimes I think back I find it really weird. I used to have regular period before wedding but after wedding my cycle become longer it seems and the after effect from taking vitamins (I assumed) had my cycle became so messed up. I wonder it’s the stress too that’s playing a part.
This is actually the first month I stopped but I’m on CD 34 today. Have backaches past 2 days and a little cramp ytd so likely period would be coming soon
fingers crossed for you - hopefully BFC!
whentwobecomesone
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Yes, went for gynae checks after 6/7 months of trying. Everything was normal except for my progesterone level low on CD28, around 3.44ng/ml and hubby SA less than 3% normal. But gynae‘s response was that hubby SA results are quite common, so nothing to worry about. For my progesterone, suspect that I did not ovulate. So gynae prescribed me letrozole.
As I was hesitant to start on medication, I did my own research and found that progesterone test is not very accurate in determining ovulation, since the progesterone levels fluctuate greatly, depending on when the test was taken. More recent research also states that any progesterone levels 3 and above, is an indication of ovulation. Different from what my gynae mention, so dunno wat to trust also
. For now, I’m trying naturally with TCM first.did your gynae mention any advice abt progesterone or SA?
whentwobecomesone
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We have been ttc for a year and a month already. I started taking vitamins for a year and a half. Before we started to ttc, I just feel nausea and have some stomach issues. Then when we started ttc, I feel like somehow it got worse and the worst was when I took blackmores vitamins I feel. I changed from gnc to Blackmore btw. So from then I just stopped. It wasn’t so bad taking gnc vitamins because my cycle was between 35-37 days most of the time but when I changed to blackmores, the cycle became crazy like ranges from 30 to 45 days each time. Sometimes I think back I find it really weird. I used to have regular period before wedding but after wedding my cycle become longer it seems and the after effect from taking vitamins (I assumed) had my cycle became so messed up. I wonder it’s the stress too that’s playing a part.
This is actually the first month I stopped but I’m on CD 34 today. Have backaches past 2 days and a little cramp ytd so likely period would be coming soon
Hi Charlene, did you go for any fertility test yet?
whentwobecomesone
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it's so weird though, i thought it's supplements suppose to help us. i also heard many positive stories on the blackmores actually, why are these not working on us and instead working against us!
Hi Amy and Charlene, I’ve seen reviews that the blackmores conceive well should be taken after food. Some ladies take it after lunch and the nausea and stomach discomfort reactions go away. Also, sometimes with new supplements or medications, there will be a transition period, which should sort itself out in a few months. Not sure if the situation will improve after awhile?
popdolcorn
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I m 36. I went for fertility test in mar, delay till jun then see doctor to see result due to cb.My progesterone level was less than 1.6 during second day of period. Doctor told me straight on my face I n not ovulating from the blood test. He suggested my hub take sperm test again then to confirm his result before he prescribe anything further for me.
I have just started tcm for one month, opk didn’t test positive bbt also no pattern, then my period came on time. My track record for the past one year, my period has been many times above 40 days and period usually last 4 days. Recent two periods were heavy. I do not know if the current tcm is working. I feel so depressed just to hear no ovulation and the bbt and opk also show me nothing.
My feelings are quite mixed.
I have just started tcm for one month, opk didn’t test positive bbt also no pattern, then my period came on time. My track record for the past one year, my period has been many times above 40 days and period usually last 4 days. Recent two periods were heavy. I do not know if the current tcm is working. I feel so depressed just to hear no ovulation and the bbt and opk also show me nothing.
My feelings are quite mixed.
popdolcorn
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After my depressing post, can I know if any of u with tcm? I hope to go with a good tcm. I searched the forum, The famous one need to wait till nov. anyone with dr Zhao and is good? Medicine and consultation separately charged?
Hi Popsolcorn, don’t be disheartened, with medical technology and TCM, i’m sure there is a way for you! I learn from your case and other case that we can have periods without ovulating, which i didn’t know last time.
I am with Dr Zhao since last Year November, to help me regulate periods, as i have PCOS, and ever since my period has been regular (yay!). But now i learnt that period doesn’t mean ovulation, so i don’t know if i am ovulating or not. I am doing accupuncture with her, and medication charges are seperate. I think she is not bad, although I am not pregnant yet... but TCM takes time to see results. Did u do ultrasound to confirm u did not ovulate? My doctor only did ultrasound and not progesterone test...
Charlene05
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No I haven’t yet. Was thinking about going for tcm for now. Then go polyclinic get referral to gvt hospital for checks. Any gvt hospital/Doctors/tcm recommendations?
Charlene05
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I took it after breakfast as that’s what the salesperson recommended. Maybe it just didn’t suit us.. I suffer worse taking blackmores and that lasted me 3 months so I thought I should just stop already. Also getting a little frustrated
whentwobecomesone
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Hi Charlene, TMC has packages for fertility check if you ever consider private. Not sure about government charges but the HSG test can be paid by medisave. I’m seeing Dr Su at Funan Medical. I feel that she‘s good and also have positive reviews online. Have not gotten BFP under her though
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Hi poldolcorn, did your doc mention why the blood test was done during second day of period? From my understanding, progesterone levels at the beginning of cycle is very low and will only start to rise after ovulation. Hence, progesterone blood test is usually done 7 days after ovulation around CD21. Of course this may not be entirely accurate too, as ovulation varies cycle to cycle, person to person. But the test usually done after mid cycle. Wonder if your doc is testing for other things too?
whentwobecomesone
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Hi Chouchou, have you and your hubby tried TCM? are you in your TWW now?
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Hi all, am new here, feeling a little hormonal and upset so just wanted to rant a bit here. Been ttc-ing for close to 4 years now with zero results. Had a check-up done about 4 years back and blood test and hsg all ok for me but DH’s SA was poor-count, motility and morphology. The doc immediately recommended the option of IVF and I was devastated as wanted to avoid this if possible.
subsequently DH stated taking supplements and even went for procedure to improve blood flow to groin area but seems no improvement at all. Am also very frustrated with DH, he seems to avoid this issue of infertility and avoided going for a updated SA even though I hinted every now and then. Scheduling BD is so stressful and tbh I don’t really enjoy it. Every time I just go through with BD and hope I get lucky. He works longer than usual office hours and it gotten worse during this WFH period, always tired and sometimes have ED and would need to rely on viagra. Omg that really is the last thing anyone who is ttc really needs. I am really very sad and don know what to do especially during the first day of AF. I feel that TTC can really make or break a relationship, times like this makes me wonder why I marry my DH in the first place. I don’t want to be special or anything, I just don’t want to be different from others.
makes me feel somewhat comforted to read others stories here and thanks for reading mine. If you have any kind advice for me,would greatly appreciate it. I hope to have more frequent interaction with u all.
subsequently DH stated taking supplements and even went for procedure to improve blood flow to groin area but seems no improvement at all. Am also very frustrated with DH, he seems to avoid this issue of infertility and avoided going for a updated SA even though I hinted every now and then. Scheduling BD is so stressful and tbh I don’t really enjoy it. Every time I just go through with BD and hope I get lucky. He works longer than usual office hours and it gotten worse during this WFH period, always tired and sometimes have ED and would need to rely on viagra. Omg that really is the last thing anyone who is ttc really needs. I am really very sad and don know what to do especially during the first day of AF. I feel that TTC can really make or break a relationship, times like this makes me wonder why I marry my DH in the first place. I don’t want to be special or anything, I just don’t want to be different from others.
makes me feel somewhat comforted to read others stories here and thanks for reading mine. If you have any kind advice for me,would greatly appreciate it. I hope to have more frequent interaction with u all.
popdolcorn
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No I only did the blood test and and transvaginal scans for fibroids. Everything is normal except progesterone he remarked is Low and told me straight in the face I m not ovulating.
popdolcorn
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I m not too sure why blood test was only done on second or third day but that was what I was instructed by the kk doctor for fertility checks. Initially I thought progesterone Low maybe only for that time and I researched is the lowest during follicular phase of beginning of menstrual cycle. But under charting bbt and doing Opk 17 days after menses (because Tcm saw my track record is Long cycle and told me to do opk 17 days onwards), I saw no pattern and my period same Super on time on day 28. Then I got very disheartened. One good thing is probably my period came on time. But another thing is I see no Trend in the bbt at all. My first time charting and doing opk in June and somehow my mood was very affected by all these. Initially I thought is the Chinese medicine that cause my mood to be like that, very moody, i dun take other supplements other than folic acid. Then again it could be the charting and opk then make my mood down.
popdolcorn
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Ttc is also affecting my relationship with my hub, i Think I got too stress and moody over all these. Now even have to catch timing... and I can’t even tell my timing.
Yah very strange to do progesterone test on CD2, i suggest u to see another doctor for 2nd opinion and test on CD21. Sorry, so is your cycle 28 or 40 days? If 28, then OPK from
CD17 means you missed your ovulation on CD14! Don’t worry you only started this last month! It takes MONTHS to get it right and knowing your pattern. Took me 3 months to get it. I have not tried bbt but only OPK i start on CD13 till CD17 and will “catch” the positive on the OPK.
Hiii whentwobecomesone! Im 4 DPO & got slight cramps n discomfort. Doesnt last long actually. Its making me nervous. How're u getting along? Oh i saw ur earlier post & we're the same age tooHi Luxee, how many DPOs are you now? Any symptoms?
Hello @Hashitq, we are all in this together. My friends have TTC for 4-5 years also and eventually they succeed, with help of IVF. As for your hubby, it is normal, i feel men are generally like that, they don’t feel there is a problem with them and reluctant to do test as they don’t want to know (maybe it’s just me). I think he is also stressed at work so TTC is adding stress to him. The fact that he is taking supplements is a good step! My partner doesn’t want to take supplements as he feel nothing is wrong altho his SA is ~3%. I’m sure he wants a baby too but not in a rush. Anyway, nothing wrong with being different from others! Everyone has their own timeline in life, i have even considered adoption, if things don’t work out for me. Although easier said than done, as most of my close friends are having 2-3 kids already, lol. But i know we will get there. We are not alone, so don’t feel different! I agree BD is not as passionate if u r ttc-ing...
Thanks @reina37 - I have read about the injections and pills that are required to prep your body for IVF and tbh I am quite freak out by them. Was just hoping that DH can be more proactive and improve on his part so that we have more than one option. My close friends all have at least 1 kid and it makes me really sad as I am being constantly reminded of the fact that I don’t. I feel he is just taking supplements to feel like at least he is doing something on his part but whether effective or not nobody knows as he didn’t bother to follow up. All this really forms part of my frustrations with him.
Anyway you sound really optimistic and I am glad for u, I just need to find things to distract myself constantly so that I don go crazy dwelling.
How old are you? Its ok they should be envious of you having your carefree life too. Especially in covid period having young kids + work from home is very tiring. I just meet my single friends more to keep myself occupied
whentwobecomesone
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Hi popdolcorn, thanks for sharing! Hope you’re feeling better now. Did you manage to get any positive OPK, or temperature spikes for bbt?
whentwobecomesone
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Hi chouchou, hope you get good news this weekend! Do update us! I’m doing alright. Started trying already though my ovulation is probably still some time away. I’m trying SMEP method, so have to start trying from day 10 onwards. My cycles are pretty long, so gonna be a long wait before seeing any results
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Hi Luxee, I’ve read that if you get cramps around 6DPO onwards, it might be a good sign. Though it didn’t work out for me this way, but it might for you!
Keep us updated! I’m only on CD14, so still a long way till finish line. My cycles are very long, so I have almost 3 weeks to go.
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Hi Reina, I saw your comment about adopting. Have you researched or know anything about adopting in Singapore? I heard that you’re not allowed to adopt unless you are medically proven to be unable to conceive (even w IVF), or have track record of at least 3 failed IVF.
I’m personally open to adoption, and hubby is quite open too. I think if I don’t live in Singapore, I might have adopted already
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Hi Hashtiq, I feel you. Hubby and I love kids, including our relatives’ and friends’ kids. But having our own seems to be difficult. And always get news that so and so is pregnant. Sometimes even by accident! So it seems that others have baby easily but not me and hubby. I especially feel like that when AF comes after every cycle of trying.
But don’t give up! Maybe ur hubby cares a lot about this too, more than he expresses, and maybe he doesn’t want to take the test as he doesn’t know how to deal with it if the result are bad.
My hubby is like that too but with other non-baby related things
Oh i have not researched but have someone in my workplace whom has adopted twins! It is my Plan C. (Plan B is IVF). However my partner is not open to adoption, but who knows, maybe if Plan B fails he is open. I think if i don’t become pregnant this year i will do IVF.
i am going to be 35 in a few months time... sigh.. that’s what they always say right.. grass is greener on the other side
thanks for your encouraging words, if only I could turn back time I think just being by myself life should be simpler and not have to deal with issues that comes along with being married.
MoonyMarauders
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Hi, it’s not true that you need to be medically proven to be unable to conceive to adopt. It only has strict criteria when doing the Home Study Report where they assess to ensure you have a strong ability and environment to take care of a child, but the social worker will help you through it usually. The queue to adopt is quite long but if you have the money you can go to private agents. I’ve actually just adopted last year after 7 years of TTC. Still TTC I won’t give up to have a natural child
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We are same age then! Anyway, if ur hubby is open to IVF, i’m sure you can have kids.i am going to be 35 in a few months time... sigh.. that’s what they always say right.. grass is greener on the other side
Do you take any supplements or go for any TCM to improve overall fertility health? I tried acupuncture before though a yr back
whentwobecomesone
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Hi, it’s not true that you need to be medically proven to be unable to conceive to adopt. It only has strict criteria when doing the Home Study Report where they assess to ensure you have a strong ability and environment to take care of a child, but the social worker will help you through it usually. The queue to adopt is quite long but if you have the money you can go to private agents. I’ve actually just adopted last year after 7 years of TTC. Still TTC I won’t give up to have a natural child
Hi Moony, thanks for the information! Does that mean that any couples can adopt as long as they pass the home study report? Don’t need to have failed IVF etc? Can we adopt the child from overseas, or must the child be born locally? Thanks!
whentwobecomesone
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hi Reina, would you be considering IUI first?